Media Matters: Obama’s infanticide support? “Fevered dreams” of Stanek/Limbaugh
Barack Obama’s venture one step beyond unencumbered and taxpayer-funded abortion support to radically support infanticide of abortion survivors was the straw that broke the camel’s back for many pro-lifers….
It explains why more bishops than ever before spoke against Obama during the election season and is ultimately why his appearance at Notre Dame has invoked such loathing. Were ND’s commencement honoree Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy there would have been complaints but not of this magnitude.
Obama supporters have always denied Obama supports infanticide despite overwhelming evidence such as his votes and floor speeches as state senator against the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. There is even audiotape of Obama stating it would be a “burden to the original decision of the woman” to provide emergency care to abortion survivors.
That’s all Obama supporters can do, really. It would be ridiculous to defend Obama’s pro-infanticide stance, so they just deny it ever happened.
And thus it was on May 8 that Soros-funded Media Matters tried once again to deny the undeniable. MM was picking apart Rush Limbaugh’s May 7 replacement, Mark Davis, word by word and came to this…
… Then it was on to Obama’s upcoming ND speech, which has outraged every Catholic in the country, judging by Fox News’ coverage of the issue.
Of course, Catholics, by and large, are not upset, but a vocal minority of conservative Catholics insist it’s a controversy, so let’s run with it.
Apparently, a conservative group wanted to put up a billboard near the school attacking Obama as “pro-abortion,” but was stymied by the billboard company, which insisted the group change the language to “pro-choice.” Davis understood this is a semantic game, but nonetheless intoned: “Should the people have been able to say that the president was not pro-choice or even pro-abortion choice, but pro-abortion? You know, when you stick up for infanticide like this guy has.”
Point of clarity – Obama has never stuck up for infanticide. Never – not once – except in the fevered dreams of Jill Stanek and Rush Limbaugh.
Excuse me, denying Obama’s own words – even on tape – and I’m the one hallucinating?
[Cartoon attribution: Chicago Sun-Times, published during the 2004 US Senate campaign in IL]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
My favorite cartoon ever. Thanks for posting it again, Jill.
As Obama taught us, for the sake of all aborting mothers, a baby isn’t a baby if an abortionist is in the room.
This is very typical of pro aborts. They deny Barry’s own words. The also deny it’s a baby’s life they are taking. It’s a “potential life” or something along those lines is about as much as many will admit.
And even among the few that do agree it’s a baby, they defend the mother’s “choice” to do what she wants with her body.
Fevered dreams?? When it comes to Obama’s infanticide record, suddenly his supporters don’t know how to research public records? They sound as credible as the Holocaust deniers.
“Despite how the conflict [in Iraq] has been portrayed by our glorious media, if you gave any U.S. soldier a gun with two bullets in it, and he found himself in an elevator with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Osama bin Laden, there’s a good chance that Nancy Pelosi would get shot twice, and Harry Reid and bin Laden would be strangled to death.”
CBS Sports golf analyst David Feherty.
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yor bro ken
Fevered dreams? Are you serious?! I think it’s time to post Obama’s words on the matter again.
“That’s all Obama supporters can do, really. It would be ridiculous to defend Obama’s pro-infanticide stance, so they just deny it ever happened. ”
Yes, thats right Jill. That is the tact they are taking. Then can because they know the media will not make Dr. Frankenstein explain those votes.
Media Matters fully exposed the “infanticide” lies, as did the Chicago Tribune. However that does not dissuade those whose need for attention and money is served by perpetuating the lies.
Bystander, please tell me where any lies were told. Obamas own camp admitted that he was the one who lied. Of course, that got brushed under the table and the lies continue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc
Obama’s own words in his own voice, stating that bringing in an additional physician to assess a baby born alive would burden the original decision of the woman to abort.
What would you expect? Asked at what point a baby gets “human rights,” Senator Obama said: “… whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity … is above my pay grade.”
By the way, as far as I know, President Obama has never indicated or professed any enlightenment since he made the statement. Why would you expect President Obama to denounce infanticide if he does not even know when a baby gets human rights?
Didn’t he get a pay raise when he became president? Maybe the question is not above his pay grade now.
Obama Derangement Syndrome. No known cure or therapy.
Impeach Obama!
Obama is the absolute worst president I’ve seen so far.
“They sound as credible as the Holocaust deniers.” Posted by: Catherine at May 11, 2009 4:24 PM
Exactly, Catherine, exactly. And about as much compassion. These are extremely cold hearted, incredibly cruel people.
Obama is the absolute worst president I’ve seen so far.
Posted by: heather at May 12, 2009 8:12 AM
This is fascinating to me. You apparently believe what you wrote. We really are a polarized country. Maybe we’ve always been. Maybe 200 years ago there was a federalist Heather railing against Jefferson as the worst president ever. I know a generation of hard core Republicans went to their grave cursing FDR. I’ve spent most of my adult life in a country where I had huge policy disagreements with the president. Reagan, Nixon, LBJ (to some extent), Bush and Bush. Even Carter disappointed me some times. I know what you’re going through. Don’t worry, it will be okay.
On the other hand, for the first time in my life we have a president I trust, respect, admire, and am grateful for. If you’re unhappy with President Obama, at least find some satisfaction that many of your fellow Americans are happy he’s there.
Again, Impeach Obama!
heather, I am curious what you think Obama should be impeached for. Could you elaborate?
Hal,
“On the other hand, for the first time in my life we have a president I trust, respect, admire, and am grateful for.”
Maybe it’s because he’s your generation……
Hal,
“Don’t worry, it will be okay.”
Is there anything Obama could do that would give you reservations? I didn’t think so.
heather, I am curious what you think Obama should be impeached for. Could you elaborate?
Posted by: Alexandra at May 12, 2009 10:09 AM
————————————————– How about this. Show me one desent thing he’s done, and I might reconsider.
President orders deep dish pizza _ from St. Louis
Associated Press
April 10, 2009
CHICAGO – The news is hitting Chicago deep dish pizza makers’ eye like a big pizza pie.
President Barack Obama is having 140 people over to the White House Friday night for a some deep-dish pizza – St. Louis deep dish pizza.
It seems during his campaign he had pizza from a restaurant in the Delmar Loop neighbhorhood called Pi.
That’s the story Pi assistant manager Lindsey Tornetto tells. Whatever happened, the restaurant says the owner and his business partner packed some dough, cheese and pizza pans in their suitcases and flew to Washington.
It all has Marc Malnati – owner of 30 Lou Malnati’s Pizzarias in the Chicago area – shaking his head. He says while he likes Obama’s economic policy, he thinks the president’s pizza policy should change.
Alexandrea, with a crashing economy, where did Obama get the cash for this party??
Obama is in a bind. He says something to a group and the next moment says the opposite to others. he gets taped. They he has to face contradicting himself.
Yes HAL, he voted against BAIPA. We can call it infanticide.
On the other hand, for the first time in my life we have a president I trust, respect, admire, and am grateful for. If you’re unhappy with President Obama, at least find some satisfaction that many of your fellow Americans are happy he’s there.
Posted by: Hal at May 12, 2009 8:42 AM
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I see you haven’t gotten over your conditon yet Hal.
Heather, if you call to impeach someone, you don’t just say, “why not?” when asked for your reasons. I’m honestly curious! I want to know why Obama should be impeached.
“I’m honestly curious! I want to know why Obama should be impeached.”
Alexandra,
look at the right-hand side of this screen where it says ‘barack obama’s radical positions on abortion’
plus, he is most likely not a US citizen.
..many other reasons too..
a US BORN citizen that is, which is a requirement for President. I believe there is a case before the SCOTUS now…
Right, Jasper, I understand that non-US citizens can’t be president. But since we don’t yet know for sure that Obama is not a citizen I was wondering if there was some other reason to impeach him. I think that his abortion views are a reason to not vote for him, but not a reason to impeach him.
Posted by: Hal at May 12, 2009 8:42 AM
“On the other hand, for the first time in my life we have a president I trust, respect, admire, and am grateful for.”
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Hal,
I suggest you look now and pre-select a soft place to land.
Contrary to what you may believe, the ground is not rushing ‘up’ to greet you.
Reality is about to impose itself on your fantasy, yet once again, in it’s usual painful fashion.
You have made the fantastic leap from cynisism to false hope and unrealistic expecation.
President Obama is not even ‘too good’ to be true.
He is too bad to be believed and too unreliable to risk taking your eye off him.
yor bro ken
I would Impeach him because of his extreme ant-life views, he’s not a US citizen, His worship of Reverend Wright {Wrong}. Did anyone remember when Obama said that he had “no idea” that the good Rev. was so radical. Gee, he only attended his church for most of his adult life. You know, “God Dam*n America!” So, in short, he’s a liar! And the AF1 stunt being the latest and the whopping stimulus package. Oh no no no!!!! IMPEACH HIM!!!
Heather just soaks up the far right crazy talk from Rush,Hannity and Beck and spews it out.
Heather,take a night off from hate radio and tv, take two aspirin and call us in the morning.
Right, heather, I guess that I consider all of those things (except the US citizenship one) to just be reasons to oppose a politician, but not necessarily impeach him.
Heather! WHAT?!!! He talks about how we have to make sacrifices and he has St. Louis pizza makers flown to the White House?!!! They make me ill! Can you imagine what the press would say if Pres. Bush had done something like that!
Frankly, he should be impeached because of his ineptitude — the damage he is doing to our economy and national security.
Eileen#2, yes. Good old Obama the back stabber that he is. I wonder how much it cost for someone to fly those pizzas to D.C.! Needless to say, he turncoated on his FAV pizza place in Chicago. Um, there are people starving in America. Unemployment is in the double digits, and BOZO’s HAVING A PIZZA PARTY!!!
Is there anything Obama could do that would give you reservations? I didn’t think so.
Posted by: Janet at May 12, 2009 12:08 PM
Sure, I don’t like his position against gay marriage. I wish he would move forward on single payer health care. I don’t like that dog he bought. I’m sure there are others. In general, however, I’m pretty happy with him.
Alexandra, I did know plenty of Obama supporters who are now experiencing a change of heart. They now believe that he was the worst thing that ever could have happened to us.
Heather:
No you don’t.
Hal, yes I do. You’ll be one of them someday. Give it time.
Hal, tons of people in Ohio voted for him. I live right by the GM plant. Those workers BELIEVED that he was going to save their jobs. Not so! The Lordstown plant is closing. So much for their faith in him, and shame on them for being so money hungry!!!!!!
“I don’t like that dog he bought.”
LOL. Thanks for the laugh, Hal.
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“I wish he would move forward on single payer health care.”
You want to put the insurance companies out of business and let bureaucrats decide who gets medical care and possibly take over the medical schools? What happens when a new political party gets in power? They fire all the doctors and administrators and hire new ones, while the system tries to catch up? In Europe, the government decides by exam who goes to trade school and who goes the academic route and a person’s life direction is set. Do we want the government controlling every facet of our lives? This is where O is taking us. Think about it.
Janet, well said!!!
Hal, don’t bother feeding or understanding the beast. They’ll be like this for the next 8 years. Same as us, foaming at the mouth over Bush.
I can almost empathize, honestly.
Hal, why don’t you go up to the Rush L. thread. Look at all of the You Tube responses posted under the Obama video. Many people are apologizing for voting for Obama.
Hal, sorry. Not the Rush thread. The WEB GRAB.
Heather, I assume you can verify that those are legitimate Obama voters who have changed their views? Even if true, that wouldn’t prove anything, Obama’s approval ratings are higher than the margin he won the election by. He is gaining popularity. Even if he wasn’t, I still support him generally. I don’t agree with anyone 100% of the time.
Danielle, I know what you mean. I’m just having some fun.
Posted by: Danielle at May 12, 2009 9:28 PM
“They’ll be like this for the next 8 years. Same as us, foaming at the mouth over Bush.”
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Danielle,
So you have gone from foaming at the mouth over Bush to slobbering in enfatutated adulation over pbho.
You have traded Bush Derangement Synrome for Obama Delusional Syndrome.
Maybe ‘liberalism’ really is a mental illnes.
Having a non-limbic brain must make them particulary succeptible to chemical embalances in the orbital lobes.
Even the tin foil hat does not seem effective at warding off the malady.
The Kennedys advise against frontal lobotomy.
Try fresh air, warm sunshine, walks in woods and drink plenty distilled water processed through a double osmosis filter.
yor bro ken
I’m not foaming at the mouth. I just don’t think he’s a god president. What did you guys used to say? Wasn’t it “Not my president.”
I’m not foaming at the mouth. I just don’t think he’s a god president.
Right, heather, and that’s totally fine! I’m just saying that there is a BIG difference between thinking someone is a bad president, and thinking someone should be impeached.
Alexandra, that’s okay. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Trust me, I didn’t agree with everything Bush did either, but Bush was just a man. {with the title of president} Same goes for Obama. However, I see disaster coming.
I didn’t agree with everything that Pres. Bush did either but there is a huge difference in character between him and Obama. Pres. Bush is a good man.
Eileen #2, I agree!
I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
On what? Obama? I haven’t shared my opinions on Obama.
On whether there should be a difference between opposing someone and impeaching someone? Grounds for impeachment is bribery, treason, or “other high crimes and misdemeanors” — and most legal scholars agree that there is a difference between impeachable and criminal offenses. That is, that just because a president could be indicted for something does not mean he could be impeached for that thing. You want to impeach him for going to a church you don’t like, throwing a pizza party, and generally behaving politically like he’s not someone you want for president (abortion, stimulus). Political differences, while strong and VERY important, are not grounds for impeachment. Impeachment is a very serious sanction and the standard for it is (and should be!) very high. If your disagreement falls short of the standards for impeachment, you still get a chance every 4 years to kick every sitting president out of office.
Alexandra, Are you an Obama supporter?
Alexandra, why do I always see people driving down the road with “IMPEACH BUSH” bumper stickers?? Care to explain why some felt that he should have been impeached? What did he do?
I think that was a little harsh, don’t you?
heather, I think most people who wanted to impeach Bush wanted to do so because of allegedly illegal misconduct in seeking authority to invade Iraq, including a belief that Bush violated the War Powers Clause of the constitution to wage war in Iraq without a congressional declaration of war. Also that the war was in aggression rather than self-defense and was thus a crime against peace as considered by the UN.
Many people are also referring to the illegal wiretapping, which according to many accusations violated FISA and the 4th amendment. And of course approving/re-defining torture.
Whether Bush should have been impeached for these things is certainly not for me to decide! But the accusations bear weight and substance, at least.
Care to explain why some felt that he should have been impeached? What did he do?
Posted by: heather at May 13, 2009 8:34 AM
Here’s one list (for the record, I don’t agree with all of these points:
1. Violating the United Nations Charter by launching an illegal “War of Aggression” against Iraq without cause, using fraud to sell the war to Congress and the public, misusing government funds to begin bombing without Congressional authorization, and subjecting our military personnel to unnecessary harm, debilitating injuries, and deaths.
2. Violating U.S. and international law by authorizing the torture of thousands of captives, resulting in dozens of deaths, and keeping prisoners hidden from the International Committee of the Red Cross.
3. Violating the Constitution by arbitrarily detaining Americans, legal residents, and non-Americans, without due process, without charge, and without access to counsel.
4. Violating the Geneva Conventions by targeting civilians, journalists, hospitals, and ambulances, and using illegal weapons, including white phosphorous, depleted uranium, and a new type of napalm.
5. Violating U.S. law and the Constitution through widespread wiretapping of the phone calls and emails of Americans without a warrant.
6. Violating the Constitution by using “signing statements” to defy hundreds of laws passed by Congress.
7. Violating U.S. and state law by obstructing honest elections in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006.
8. Violating U.S. law by using paid propaganda and disinformation, selectively and misleadingly leaking classified information, and exposing the identity of a covert CIA operative working on sensitive WMD proliferation for political retribution.
9. Subverting the Constitution and abusing Presidential power by asserting a “Unitary Executive Theory” giving unlimited powers to the President, by obstructing efforts by Congress and the Courts to review and restrict Presidential actions, and by promoting and signing legislation negating the Bill of Rights and the Writ of Habeas Corpus.
10. Gross negligence in failing to assist New Orleans residents after Hurricane Katrina, in ignoring urgent warnings of an Al Qaeda attack prior to Sept. 11, 2001, and in increasing air pollution causing global warming.
Here’s another, similar list:
http://www.counterpunch.org/corseri06062005.html
(you’ll get a kick out of “trying to overturn Roe v. Wade” list as an impeachable offense)
Again, I don’t agree with everything on this list either. However, the idea that he was above the law and could hold people without trials or access to a lawyer is a gross violation of our constitution.
That list is just a bunch of nonsense! There is no way that the Democrats in Congress would have allowed Pres. Bush to go forward with anything that he needed to do if it was illegal. They were given all the necessary info required before they voted, etc. Those who have stated otherwise SINCE the war began were lying and being politically expedient. There is enough to prove that! They are simply relying on the fact that the MSM protects them and that the many people do not inform themselves as they should.