Denver Planned Parenthood calls keystone cops for frosty pro-life caper
As to be expected, Denver was cold last Saturday, January 8.
It was so cold the black vinyl sheet Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains uses to cover its fence to prevent clients from interacting with pro-lifers frosted over, which provided a fantastic medium for frozen messages. When you use your finger to pen a message in the frost it melts and re-freezes, leaving what looks like a chalk message – until the sun melts it away.
Pro-life activists Debbie Evans and Jo Scott had just finished preparing the fence for that morning’s outreach to pregnant mothers in crisis when a total of 8 squad cars surrounded the pro-lifers while 2 more entered the PP parking lot.
The sergeant jumped out of his car and yelled, “Who wrote on the wall?,” Jo wrote in an email describing the event. “I did.” To which he responded, “Come with me, I’ll need to see your ID. You’re getting a ticket for destruction of private property.” Jo was flabbergasted and explained to the officer she had written in the frost on the fence. He would not believe her, insisting the pro-lifers had used chalk.
Another officer asked Debbie for her ID. Then all 20 pro-lifers on the scene began writing on the fence and asking to be arrested as “frosted felons.” Because the police parked in the middle of the street, they not only obstructed incoming traffic to the PP mill but made it appear as if a major crime was in progress. Jo noted, “During the time the police were blocking traffic, no abortion clients entered the mill. Praise the Lord!”
Ultimately only Debbie was issued a ticket for “destruction of public property” because she was the only person a PP security guard could positively identify.
By this time an hour had passed… and then the sun came out.
As quickly as they descended on the pro-lifers, all 10 police cars departed.
Five minutes later the officer who had cited Debbie returned and asked her for her ticket, which he tore up.
Here’s video of some of the keystone cop frosty pro-life caper, filmed by Debbie’s husband Scott…
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
They obviously got a misleading call. I appreciate the fact that the officer made the effort to return and destroy the ticket that had been issued in the face of inaccuracies. In their line of work there is tremendous pressure to act fast and sort out the facts later, so let’s thank them for braving the mockery that comes with being wrong. If only all of us would have the courage and presence of mind to say we’re wrong and walk away…
In their service to law enforcement, these officers are forced pawns in the game that PP plays with their image.
The pro-aborts want to kill snowflake babies, but would have us arrested for killing a few snowflakes. This is the insanity of the pro-death culture in America! Eight cop cars? Seriously?
Jamie, actually 10!
Frosty Cold Women
(Sung to the Tune of “Frosty the Snowman”)
Frosty, cold women,
To PP they took a walk,
With their hearts of love and their woolen gloves
And their hands made out of chalk.
Frosty, cold women,
It’s a fairytale they say
How the vinyl wall
Made the staffers call
The police to come that day.
There must have been some magic
In the words they wrote so nice,
For when their fingers touched the fence,
All the chalk turned into ice!
Frosty cold women
Knew the sun was hot that day
So they said, we know,
That they’ll let us go
When our message melts away.
*eyeroll*
Henrietta, I can’t believe you just posted that. Coincidentally, yesterday, I wrote and posted THIS!
FROSTY THE SNOW JOB
Frosty the Snow Job
was a Keystone Copper tale.
Yeah, they threatened Jo
‘cuz she melted snow,
said she’d have to soon post bail…
Frosty the Snow Job
was an awful crime, they say.
Vandalizing snow
is a crime, you know,
while they kill more kids today.
. . O, there must have been
. . some sunshine on
. . that fence, said pastor Bob.
. . Cuz the cops then turned
. . around and saw that
. . the sun finished the job…
Ohhhhh…
Frosty the Snow Job
Cops were lying, plain to see
They don’t care if kids’
murders are well hid
in the clinic’s secrecy
Frosty the Snow Job
then they let Jo off the hook
Said they didn’t care
about the murders in there
They wouldn’t even look
Frosty the Snow Job
Cops were hurrying on their way
Didn’t write her up
Tore the ticket up
But they’ll be back… again… someday!
Henrietta,
You have a gift my friend. :)
You too, Jamie!! LOL
I find it distressing that many police officers seem to have a lot of enthusiasm for protecting criminal abortionists, like those at Planned Parenthood, and for going after unborn human rights activists.
These pro-life activists are trying to stop the crime of killing unborn children, which is a job the police should be doing, but sadly are not, in our upside down, mixed up society.
Take heart, Joe there are many prolife policemen, some that I know personally. One was atop his horse while I was at a Good Friday prayer vigil that thousands of prolifers attended. I saw him when I was leaving and he said,” I watched over you all day today.”
Jamie the Schofield
(Sung to the Tune of “Frosty the Snowman”)
Jamie the Schofield
Wrote a fine abortion song,
‘Bout how pro-choice sops and the Denver cops
Went and done some women wrong.
Then Mrs. Tavish,
Had the same idea next day
And she posted it in a comment thread
Just to pass the time away.
They must be drinking somethin’
At that blog that’s run by Jill
Cause frosty pro-life parodies
Show that one is mentally ill!
Schofield and Tavish
Are now in their padded cells,
But they’ll set them free when they sing with glee
Of abortion Jingle Bells.
The pro-aborts want to kill snowflake babies, but would have us arrested for killing a few snowflakes.
Jamie, this made me laugh, but where do you actually see pro-choicers “wanting to kill snowflake babies”?
This story, and the Frosty the Snowman rewrites, have made my day.
TEN cop cars. and meanwhile across town a woman was getting raped and an old man was being mugged, I’m sure. But thank goodness those protectors of PP were there to stop the frost assault at PP! Glad they ripped up the ticket but they need to stop and think first. Ridiculous.
Jamie, this made me laugh, but where do you actually see pro-choicers “wanting to kill snowflake babies”?
How about when they’re thawed and implanted and then killed because they’re not girls?
X, that decision is made by the parents, not by pro-choicers in general. I’m pro-choice, but it’s not like I’m advocating that frozen embryos be killed, regardless of the reason the parents might or might or might not have.
If somebody is going to “want the embryos killed,” then that’s not being pro-choice, same as wanting “all women to have abortions” rather than leave it to their decision.
X, that decision is made by the parents, not by pro-choicers in general.
Well, I’d imagine that since the parent(s) were getting the abortion in the first place, they’d naturally be pro-choice themselves, hence the “…prochoicers want…”
“meanwhile across town a woman was getting raped and an old man was being mugged”
I say the exact same thing when there’s a cop sitting by the road, trying to give a ticket to somebody going 64 in a 55 MPH zone.
Doug – thank you for your candor – I do have one question for you- where do you stand on embryonic stem cell research? If you are in favor of that research, then you ARE in favor of frozen embryos to be killed. Sorry to let you know.
The media reported on this so terribly, that many people do not understand that there is a difference between embryonic stem cell research ESCR, which results in the death of the human embryo (which happens when the stem cells are taken for research, thus killing the donor) and ASCR – which is ADULT stem cell research which uses stem cells (or induced pluripotent stem cells) for research which DOES NOT kill the donor.
So depending on what type of research – one either kills and the other does not. So you may unwittingly actually be in favor of the killing-the-donor research which is ESCR.
Just to let you know.
Even if it HAD been chalk, PP would be hard-pressed to prove destruction of property, coonsidering the temporary nature of chalk. Its just harassment, pure and simple and the cops forced by political pressure to play a part.
Thanks go to Ken and Jo Scott for having gone to jail so many times and for winning over a hundred court cases over the last 30 years. I believe that’s one of the reasons the police finally came to their senses and tore up the ticket. They didn’t want to fight that fight because of all their losses in the past due to Ken and Jo fighting so valiantly throughout the years. Ken and Jo are our personal and pro-life heroes.
God bless you, Ken and Jo!
Thank you, Jill Stanek, for posting this on your blog!
Scott Evans – videographer and photographer of the Frosty Felon Caper
Debbie Evans – the Frosty Felon who was exonerated on the spot
Reminds me of the “Kilroy was here” messages on WWII military crates. Only here it could be: “Killed boys were here!”
Sigh. I’ll be glad when abortion goes the way of the spittoons.
(Doug): X, that decision is made by the parents, not by pro-choicers in general.
(Xalisae): Well, I’d imagine that since the parent(s) were getting the abortion in the first place, they’d naturally be pro-choice themselves, hence the “…prochoicers want…”
I thought of that too when writing the above posts, X, but when we say “pro-choicers” I sure think we mean people in general who are for abortion not being entirely illegal, a vastly larger group than the people who are actually discarding frozen embryos.
When we are speaking of the people in that situation, I’m reminded of Down’s Syndrome pregnancies, where many people who would call themselves pro-life and who, to that point, would probably have argued much as the pro-lifers here on Jill’s site do, find that for them, it turns out that having an abortion may be the best way to go.
Hi Joy,
The media reported on this so terribly, that many people do not understand that there is a difference between embryonic stem cell research ESCR, which results in the death of the human embryo (which happens when the stem cells are taken for research, thus killing the donor) and ASCR – which is ADULT stem cell research which uses stem cells (or induced pluripotent stem cells) for research which DOES NOT kill the donor.
Good point, and I do know the difference, having seen mention of it on Jill’s site and other places many times. At this point, I’m not sure if there is a need for ESCR or not. Pro-lifers tend to say no, and pro-choicers tend to say yes or that we should keep learning about it. I think the medical community is not sure that the adult cells can completely take the place of the embryonic ones.
Bush Jr. allowed ESCR, I believe, since embryos from IVF were going to be destroyed anyway. I would be for that too.
The stem cell research issue is a complicated one, and I have seen many, many people get it wrong. Unfortunately, most of the people involved in the national debate seem to have it wrong as well.
Contrary to what many folks seem to think, George W. Bush did not outlaw ANY kind of stem cell research. What he did was block FEDERAL FUNDING for any form of research that would destroy human embryos. He allowed for federal funding for all kinds of stem cell research that would NOT destroy human embroys, including adult stem research and embryonic stem cell research on stem cell lines harvested from embryos that were ALREADY destroyed. Bush’s logic was that if the embryos were already destroy there was nothing he could do about it, but he would not allow taxpayer funds on the federal level to directly fund embryo destructive research. States were still free to fund embryo destructive research if they so desired.
As I said, there is not, nor has there ever been, a ban on embryonic stem cell research, federal or otherwise. The only thing there was was a ban on federal funds specifically for the purpose of destroying embryos for research. This is the ban that Barack Obama lifted in the name of “science”, forcing pro-lifers throughout the nation to fund the destruction of embryos.
Private companies have always been free to carry out stem cell research, embryo destructive or otherwise, as much as they desire. And if embryonic stem cell research were truly the gold mine of cures as it has been presented, there is no doubt in my mind that numerous private companies would have done the research in order to produce those cures. Can you imagine how much money your company would make if you owned the cure to, say, diabetes? The potential amount of wealth to be made is astronomical… if embryonic stem cells can really do what proponents of ESCR claim.
The major problem with embryonic stem cells is that they do not come from the donor – they come from a human embryo, which is a separate person with unique DNA. Because of this, there are numerous issues with rejection associated with embryonic stem cells. This has lead some medical researchers to say that adult stem cells will ultimately be the answer to curing some of these diseases, because the cells can be taken from the actual patient and thus there is no rejection.
This debate has mostly died down on the national level, but I can’t say that I’ll soon forget that those of us who actually knew all of the facts about it were attacked as “anti-science” by the ignorant folks who couldn’t even tell you the difference between adult and embryonic stem cells, and who continue to incorrectly claim that George W. Bush “outlawed” stem cell research.
Just a note Doug: When you boil this whole thing down to its essentials, it is this: If you know that the unborn child is fully human, then you are advocating the murder of an innocent human being. If you believe that the child is not human, then abortion is not much different than getting a tooth extracted.
That difference in how the child is viewed is a huge gap. Science has proven that the unborn is, indeed, fully human. Even the so-called “pro-choice” giants, like Planned Parenthood or the NOW do not debate this point any more. They simply say that the mother’s life is more important than her child’s.
Unbelievable… The laws are so backwards.
I do however want to make one note about a problem a little less evident with this situation:
The policemen are doing their jobs, to uphold the law. They did not create these unjust laws. We need to show them respect, even when we disagree with them. After all, these are the same people we want to enforce the law when abortion is illegal some day.
Yelling “Sieg Heil” isn’t going to make them any more willing to listen to our very reasonable point of view.
In some cases the police are just upholding laws. But in this case they obviously went there with a pro-choice bully attitude. Look at the number of cops that showed up. They also should have gotten the facts before writing tickets. While I’m glad they ripped the citation up they should never have issued it in the first place. I’ve also seen videos of marches where police take non-resisting protesters and bend their arms back. I’ve heard of women miscarrying when police threw them around at pro-life events.
Sydney, I wasn’t talking about officers that don’t follow the law. I was talking about those that do. Yes, they were clearly biased in their enforcement in this situation, but everything was eventually made right. We need to love, respect, and be patient with the policemen just as we are with women going into these places.
Yelling harsh words at women entering abortion clinics doesn’t change their minds, and neither does yelling at policemen.
That’s why the 40 Days For Life campaign is so effective. Peaceful, prayerful vigils are changing hearts and minds; not snide comments.
Of course the ticket should never have been written. This isn’t about what should have happened. What should have happened was the policemen should have arrested the abortionist(s) because abortion should be illegal. What this is about is how we play out our part in the story. Why give the officers a reason to resent us that they don’t already have? Why provoke further confrontation that has NOTHING to do with the real issue: innocent lives being lost?
Andrew, with all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Ken & Jo Scott are veteran sidewalk counselors who have been at PP’s gates of hell here in Denver for almost two decades. They spent the first 7 years with no harsh words and no graphic signs. They saved maybe a couple babies a year if they were lucky. Since they started using graphic signs and using admonishment toward the women going in the clinic (along with offers of assistance) and since then they have consistently saved close to 100 babies a year, every year. (And that’s strictly the 100% absolute confirmed ones who come back and tell the Scotts that she changed her mind about having an abortion, specifically because of them at the clinic. It doesn’t include the numerous uncountable ones we wont’ know about until we get to heaven.)
So many naive pro-lifers have such an easy time throwing around criticisms of people like Ken & Jo Scott, Scott Evans, etc. without knowing the facts. These women are seeking to hire someone to murder their children. If you saw a parent pulling out a knife to stab his/her 6-year-old child, would you walk across the street and hold a prayer vigil? Or would you plead with her to not kill her child? Would you tell her that it is murder, and that it is wrong? Somehow, I seriously doubt you would take the prayer vigil route. Prayer IS hugely important. So is action, and so is speaking the truth and rebuking evil. I don’t recall Old Testament heroes of the faith quietly standing on the side of the road and just holding a prayer vigil while Israel debauched itself and threw their babies into bonfires. Prayer leads to action and speaking the truth in love. Don’t get stuck at step #1.
Jamie,
I meant no disrespect whatsoever toward the Scotts. I apologize if I came across as meaning such. Please do not misunderstand my intentions. I am staunchly pro-life, and yes, I do know what I’m talking about.
Abortion is a horrible, horrible atrocity and the worst holocaust in human history. I am not speaking against any tactics that you mention specifically (except admonishing women). I’m talking about a mindset and general behavior. You misunderstand me if you seriously think I was suggesting only prayer is ever justified. Yes, graphic images and truthful criticism are absolutely justified AND necessary, but there is a time and a place for everything.
We have to keep the big scheme in mind too. The public is watching, but they are very limited in what they see. Perfect example: one of our local abortion clinics was closed down last year on the very last day of 40 Days for Life after being open for 35 years. It closed because of prayer, not because some people shouted at it. However, when the news aired the story, they spent 5 minutes on the clinic closing, and then 5 minutes talking about a past shooting in front of it, and a bombing that took place 30 years ago.
The media is just DYING to find any way to portray the pro-life movement in a negative light, and that’s all anyone sees. They see the protesters that shout and throw things at people going into the clinics. They don’t see the abortionists provoking them 20 seconds earlier. We have to do everything we can to take that chance to twist reality away from the media. If we say nothing wrong, who can condemn us? What can they show but the truth?
Changing hearts and minds is the ONLY way we are ever going to stop abortion altogether, and that always has to be our ultimate goal.
Beyond all that, it’s just the right thing to do to treat others with love and respect at all times. That doesn’t mean you let them run over you, but do everything, even just protesting, in love.
My only point was about showing respect and being prudent with our tactics. Again, I meant no disrespect to the Scotts. I sincerely apologize for coming across as such. I can only hope that some day I will have had as much of an impact as they have.
Andrew Ensley,
Are you a liberal? You disrespect the Scotts in one post then you say you didn’t mean any disrespect to them and apologize. You said:
· “We need to love, respect, and be patient with the policemen just as we are with women going into these places.” Andrew, the Scotts love the police by not wanting them to go to hell, but the Scotts didn’t respect nor were they patient with the police. Simply, the police didn’t deserve it in this instance.
· “Yes, graphic images and truthful criticism are absolutely justified AND necessary, but there is a time and a place for everything.” Andrew, the Scotts always use graphic images and truthful criticism. Would you like to suggest to them when they shouldn’t?
· “We have to keep the big scheme in mind too.” Andrew, I’d love for you to tell Ken and Jo Scott, to their faces, that they are not keeping the big scheme in mind.
· “The public is watching, but they are very limited in what they see.” The public was watching Jesus, too. As I will demonstrate later in this post, He didn’t much care.
· “Perfect example: one of our local abortion clinics was closed down last year on the very last day of 40 Days for Life after being open for 35 years. It closed because of prayer, not because some people shouted at it.” Andrew, it’s too bad you weren’t around during Jesus’ time. You could have counseled Him to pray for the money changers to leave the temple instead of driving them out with a whip.
· “The media is just DYING to find any way to portray the pro-life movement in a negative light, and that’s all anyone sees. ” Jesus DIED because he didn’t shy away from being in a negative light.
Your response to Jamie is loaded with sickening platitudes that mean nothing, i.e.,
· I’m talking about a mindset and general behavior.
· …but there is a time and a place for everything.
· We have to keep the big scheme in mind too.
· Beyond all that, it’s just the right thing to do to treat others with love and respect at all times.
· That doesn’t mean you let them run over you, but do everything, even just protesting, in love.
So, Andrew, we’re to treat others with love and respect at all times? So that means you’re saying we’re not to be like Jesus, then, who said,
“Blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.” Matthew 11:6; Luke 7:23
“Shake the dust off your feet.” Matthew 10:14
“Then His disciples came and said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?” Matthew 15:12, Jesus replied, “Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.” Matthew 15:14
“If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.” John 15:18-19
Andrew, there are many more examples of Jesus not worrying what people thought of Him, even to the point of extreme hatred which ultimately led to His death.
Jamie was correct. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Scott,
Clearly I’ve misspoken somehow. I’m not sure how I sounded like I apparently did to you. I never meant any disrespect toward the Scotts. I wasn’t talking about them specifically AT ALL in my last post. Nothing I said was directed to them. I was only responding to the misunderstood way Jamie took me. Clearly, this story is personal to you both, and I don’t wish you or them any harm or criticism. I am sorry for anything careless I have said.
My initial point was only that yelling things like “Sieg Heil” at the police won’t help anything. Do you disagree? That’s really all I was trying to say.
Yes, Jesus was confrontational and at least once (that we know of), violent. I never said not to be confrontational or even violent. For whatever reason, you have completely misunderstood me. If it is my fault, I apologize.
If the uniformed police show up and see peaceful, lawful sidewalk counselors trying to save babies from being murdered, and then proceed to create trumped-up charges and even start bearing false wtiness, themselves, against these God-fearing saints, and otherwise start acting like jackboots, then I think “Seig Heil” is quite appropriate.
Would “Serpents!” or “Brood of Vipers!” be more to your liking? “Chrome-plated sepulchres?” A shiny badge on the outside, all dead bones within?
I see nothing at all inappropriate about the “Seig Heil” in that situation. A spade’s a spade.
Andrew,
You do sound like a liberal. ”I’ve misspoken somehow.” Blech!
Of course what you said was directed to them. You disparaged some of the very strategies they use every day in an attempt to save babies.
No, I don’t agree yelling, “Sieg Heil” at the police was wrong. What’s wrong with calling a spade a spade? Do you disagree they were acting more like the Gestapo than police officers in the United States of America should behave in this particular scenario?
Do you know what, Andrew? You speak out of both sides of your mouth and you should be ashamed. In one instance you say, “Beyond all that, it’s just the right thing to do to treat others with love and respect at all times,” then you say, “I never said not to be confrontational or even violent.” Try being confrontational with someone. Do you think they will feel you are treating them with love and respect “at all times?”
By the way, to clarify, I don’t believe we should ever be violent.
Scott, Jamie,
You can be confrontational and even violent (only in the rarest of occasions – we only have one record of Jesus doing this for a reason) in love. Jesus did it in every situation. That is who I try to be like and encourage others to do the same.
I don’t want to argue with either of you. We are on the same side and need to support each other. We might have some discrepancies between what we each believe is appropriate in different situations, but at least we all care about and defend the lives of the unborn. That is what is important. I did not mean to give anything else greater importance.
God bless you. Keep up the good fight.