Kermit Gosnell, the Jeffrey Dahmer of abortionists
Actually, all abortionists have some degree of Jeffrey Dahmer in them. How else can people be described who spend their days dismembering children?
But some go deeper off the end than others.
Such a one is Kermit Gosnell. After he and his band of 9 accomplices were arrested during the night of January 19, a 281-page Grand Jury report was released yesterday morning that reads no differently than the horrific reports about Dahmer’s apartment or Nazi concentration camps.
This post will focus on Section IV of the report, “The Intentional Killing of Viable Babies.” Warning: graphic. Am quoting directly, lifting the most heinous information from 18 pages of the report including photos of abortion victims after 6 months…
Gosnell’s staff testified about scores of gruesome killings of such born-alive infants carried out mainly by Gosnell, but also by employees Steve Massof, Lynda Williams, and Adrienne Moton. These killings became so routine that no one could put an exact number on them.They were considered “standard procedure.” Yet some of the 100 slaughtered were so fully formed, so much like babies that should be dressed and taken home, that even clinic employees who were accustomed to the practice were shocked.
Baby Boy A
One such baby was a boy born in July 2008 to [a] 17-year-old…. An ultrasound conducted by Kareema Cross recorded a gestational age of 29.4 weeks. Cross testified that the girl appeared to be seven or eight months pregnant…. Eventually, she gave birth to a large baby boy. Cross estimated that the baby was 18 to 19 inches long. She said he was nearly the size of her own six pound, six ounce, newborn daughter.
After the baby was expelled, Cross noticed that he was breathing, though not for long. After about 10 to 20 seconds, while the mother was asleep, “the doctor just slit the neck,” said Cross. Gosnell put the boy’s body in a shoebox. Cross described the baby as so big that his feet and arms hung out over the sides of the container. Cross said that she saw the baby move after his neck was cut, and after the doctor placed it in the shoebox. Gosnell told her, “it’s the baby’s reflexes. It’s not really moving.”
The neonatologist testified that what Gosnell told his people was absolutely false. If a baby moves, it is alive. Equally troubling, it feels a “tremendous amount of pain” when its spinal cord is severed. So, the fact that Baby Boy A. continued to move after his spinal cord was cut with scissors means that he did not die instantly. Maybe the cord was not completely severed. In any case, his few moments of life were spent in excruciating pain.
Cross was not the only one startled by the size and maturity of Baby Boy A. Adrienne Moton and A. Baldwin, along with Cross, took photographs because they knew this was a baby that could and should have lived.
The neonatologist viewed a photograph of Baby Boy A. Based on the baby’s size, hairline, muscle mass, subcutaneous tissue, well-developed scrotum, and other characteristics, the doctor opined that the boy was at least 32 weeks, if not more, in gestational age [click to enlarge]…
Gosnell simply noted the baby boy’s size by joking, as he often did after delivering a large baby. According to Cross, the doctor said: “This baby is big enough to walk around with me or walk me to the bus stop.”…
Other babies killed by Gosnell and his staff
… A. Baldwin remembered Gosnell severing the neck of a baby that cried after being born. The baby had “precipitated” [been born] when the doctor was not in the clinic….
Baldwin heard the infant cry. She saw the baby move while it was on the counter. She estimated the infant was at least 12 inches long. When Gosnell arrived at the clinic, she recalled, “he snipped the neck, and said there is nothing to worry about, and he suctioned it [the brains out].”
If Gosnell was absent, his employees would kill viable babies. A. Baldwin saw Steve Massof slit the necks of babies that moved or breathed “five or ten” times. Massof, repeating what he had been taught by Gosnell, told her that that it was standard procedure to cut the spine in all cases….
When Massof left the clinic in 2008, Lynda Williams took over the job of cutting baby’s necks when Gosnell was not there. Cross saw Williams slit the neck of a baby (“Baby C”) who had been moving and breathing for approximately twenty minutes…. Williams called Cross over to look at the baby because it was breathing and moving its arms when Williams pulled on them. After playing with the baby, Williams slit its neck….
Cross testified that a woman had delivered a large baby into the toilet before Gosnell arrived at work for the night. Cross said that the baby was moving and looked like it was swimming. Moton reached into the toilet, got the baby out and cut its neck. Cross said the baby was between 10 and 15 inches long and had a head the size of a “big pancake.”…
Gosnell’s illegal and unorthodox practices resulted in the birth and then killing of many viable, live babies
Killing really had to be part of Gosnell’s plan. His method for performing late-term abortions was to induce labor and delivery of intact fetuses, and he specialized in patients who were well beyond 24 weeks. Thus, the birth of live, viable babies was a natural and predictable consequence….
[Mossof testimony]…
Also, a standard procedure, the cervical spine was cut… I would have to say every week it would happen to at least 50 percent of the patients…. Those were the larger patients.
Tina Baldwin corroborated that this was Gosnell’s standard procedure. She explained that after a fetus was expelled, Gosnell “used to go ahead and do the suction in the back of the neck.” She saw this “hundreds” of times. Gosnell told her that this was “part of the demise.”
Gosnell severed spinal cords and suctioned and crushed skulls after the babies were fully delivered
At one point in his Grand Jury testimony, Steve Massof tried to suggest that the clinic’s practice of cutting babies’ spinal cords was somehow part of a late-term procedure called intact dilation and extraction (IDX), commonly referred to as “partial birth abortion” and banned under federal law since 2007….
This was not the procedure Gosnell used. Under further questioning, Massof acknowledged that Gosnell and he almost always cut the spinal cords, and sometimes suctioned skulls as well, after the babies were fully expelled by their mothers, when there was clearly no need or medical reason to collapse the skull.
Tina Baldwin… said that he would “crack” the neck after the head was out – when only the baby’s torso was still inside the mother – and then suction the brain matter out.
Tina Baldwin tried to explain:
Q: — the shoulders would be out?
A: The shoulders would be out, yeah.
Q: And he would go work on the neck, you said he would crush the neck and suction the head?
A: Uh-huh.
Q: Did you ever see instances where the fetus was completely expelled from its mother’s body?
A: Oh, yeah, yeah. That’s what we call precipitation.
Q: What do you mean by that?…
A: That’s when a patient would precipitate. Usually by the Cytotec that was given to the patient and it just made the uterus so flimsy to where the baby just falls and we had a lot of patients that was second-trimester, it would just fall wherever she was at. And it was picked up and it was put in a dish and it just traveled with the mother….
Q: And then what would the doctor do when he came in?
A: Let me think back then…. I think that’s when he used to go ahead and do the suction in the back of the neck.
Q: Even though the fetuses had already been removed from their mother?
A: Yeah, they had already been removed. He would just go head and finish it….
The clinic’s employees used the term “snip” to describe the severing of the spinal cord, but this is misleading. Our neonatal expert testified that, because of the bony vertebrae surrounding the spinal cord, it would actually take quite a bit of pressure to cut all the way through the spinal cord and the bone – even at 23 or 24 weeks gestation. At 29 weeks, on babies such as Baby Boy A, the expert said, “it would be really hard.” The baby, we were told, would feel “tremendous pain.”…
Tina Baldwin told the jurors that Gosnell once joked about a baby that was writhing as he cut its neck: “that’s what you call a chicken with its head cut off.”
Although Massof was not as cavalier about what he did, he admitted that there were about 100 instances in which he severed the spinal cord after seeing a breath or some sign of life…
When investigators raided the clinic in February 2010, they sent the fetuses they discovered to the Philadelphia medical examiner’s office. The medical examiner concluded that two of them – aborted at 26 and 28 weeks – were viable, and another, aborted at 22 weeks, was possibly viable. The 28-week fetus, a male (Baby Boy B) had a surgical incision on the back of the neck, which penetrated the first and second vertebrae [click to enlarge]…
Also read “Breaking: Abortionist arrested on 8 counts of murder, 7 for killing aborted alive newborns” and “Kermit Gosnell’s ‘bizarre’ collection of baby feet.”
Updates: Kermit Gosnell One Year Later, Churches Close to Gosnell’s Abortion Mill and Photos of Kermit Gosnell’s Abortion Clinic

My son’s silly girlfriend told me that she felt the baby kicking. She is about six months pregnant. I think I mentioned that my son was born at seven months.
I feel absolutely ill now, have to go . . .
After playing with…?
Okay, wow. How do you get that evil? I’m gonna go snuggle up to my cat for a while…
I refuse to indulge the hypocrisy of pro-aborts by pretending there is a difference between cutting the neck of a kicking newborn in a blood-soaked cesspit, and doing a nice, neat aspiration abortion in a clean office.
And frankly, I wouldn’t insult Jeffrey Dahmer by comparing him to an abortionist. Dahmer repented and died at peace with the Lord.
Alice says: January 20, 2011 at 11:00 am
” How do you get that evil?”
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Incrementally…… and you have to work at it.
It does not come ‘naturally’ but ‘supernaturally’.
When you reject GOD, there is only one alternative, the ‘bent one’ and he/she/it is evil personified.
Gosnell is a ghoul who was deceived into believing he would not be held accountable for his actions.
It could not have escaped Gosnell’s notice that the president of the United States had worked actively and aggessively to continue to allow men/women like Gosnell to prey on premature infants who, despite Gosnell’s best efforts to kill them, were born alive.
God help these sick people.
After playing with the baby, Williams slit its neck….
What can one even say to something like this? This is desensitization and this is evil. Welcome to the Nazi mentality, ladies and gentlemen. This sort of desensitization to the suffering of other human beings is what leads us down roads we never thought we as humans would be capable of.
This is “choice.” These mothers paid for dead babies, and they got them. There is no difference between crushing the vertebrae of a 22 week baby and suctioning the vertebrae of a 10 week baby. It is monstrous, and should never, ever, ever be veiled in euphemism like “choice” or “the final solution.” I am horrified. :(
Oh I’m crying.
Those poor little babies. :(
This is horrendous. Evil evil evil evil evil!
Pray for this man’s repentance, fellow Christians. I’ll be adding him to my prayer list. I hope his heart can still be changed.
Our Father, who art in Heaven, Blessed be Thy name. Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from Evil. Amen.
Lord, with You all things are possible. Welcome the souls of these precious children into Your presence. We pray for the repentance of Kermit Gosnell and those like him. We pray for a conversion of hearts minds and souls in the aftermath of this tragedy. Please, Lord, help us not to harden our hearts, but to find in them compassion and forgiveness. We make this prayer in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
TO my surprise this story was published on AOL. I didn’t see it anywhere else in the news. this type of news will be quashed by the media. thank you for getting the story out. I think that this is not new or rare this type of genocide is taking place all over the country. The abortion supporters turn the other way when it comes to making these abortuaries follow any type of civil law meant to protect babies. the pro abortion people are taking advantage of the very people they claim to want to protect. God Have Mercy
I can’t finish reading it… I’m sitting her bawling… no joke. The fact that I am 33 weeks pregnant probably doesn’t help. How could anyone do this? Clarice is right… the only difference here is that in “normal” abortions, babies are slaughtered in their mother’s wombs (or at least before they are fully delivered) and in these cases, the babies were slaughtered outside of the womb. Location is the only difference. This grieves my heart immensely!
It is all so deeply disturbing and all I can think about is the pain that these precious little ones endured.
God help us.
Lord, with You all things are possible. Welcome the souls of these precious children into Your presence. We pray for the repentance of Kermit Gosnell and those like him. We pray for a conversion of hearts minds and souls in the aftermath of this tragedy. Please, Lord, help us not to harden our hearts, but to find in them compassion and forgiveness. We make this prayer in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
As I look into the beautiful blue eyes of my tenth precious baby, I cannot fathom the hopelessness one must feel to be able to cruely cut short such innocent and hopeful life.
My heart breaks, and yet somehow is filled with the hope only God will provide as He is the only One to make good out of something so atrocious, despicable, hateful, gruesome and evil as abortion and now infanticide.
This surfacing at such as time in history as now, with the anniversary of Roe v. Wade around the corner, a “president” who preaches false hope while advocating the killing of the only hope humanity has and more pro-life persons in government, I am hopeful that we will see an end to the gruesome destruction of life.
To all the precious children who didn’t ever get to swing, dance, ride bikes, laugh: I am so truly sorry for not speaking up earlier for you. Pray for me and for all of us that we will finally see justice done.
God in heaven, have mercy on us all.
I am not surprised by any of this…. and I thank God that it has been exposed, but the photo at the end of the story is unbearable. I think it needs a disclaimer of its own. What is wrong with a medical profession that enables this sort of behavior by teaching abortion in its medical schools, normalizing it to the extent that something like this can go on so long without notice? This should be a wake-up call to our country’s medical schools and the names of pro-life schools should be made public in a very loud fashion!
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Hi J D,
I googled this story last night and found it at several national news sources. My local TV news that I watched did not carry the story, but they should have!
Also, note the deafening silence about Gosnell on the “Abortioneers” blog. He was your brother-in-arms, bravely “serving” poor and minority women with “needed” late-term abortions! Clap for him, why don’t you!
The silence is deafening here as well.
Come on, Doug, Hal, Joanie, CC. Do you not find this as horrific as we do??
What was that proaborts? Something about “the vast majority of abortions occur before 9 weeks blah blah blah.”
Yeah, where are they? This is something to celebrate, everyone!
…Seriously, though, I actually retched when I saw this. Congratulations, Gloria Steinem! This is what you wanted!
My heart breaks, and yet somehow is filled with the hope only God will provide as He is the only One to make good out of something so atrocious, despicable, hateful, gruesome and evil as abortion and now infanticide.
Yes, perhaps something good will come out of this nightmare. Perhaps hearts and minds will be changed, or at least people will begin thinking about the issue.
I do not the silence of our opposition. When Scott Roeder killed Dr. Tiller, many people, including myself, condemned his murder, even though all prolifers were immediately branded as murderous psychopaths. Joan, Robert Berger, etc., where are you?
So many people would have welcomed those little ones into their families and their hearts. It would have taken a matter of minutes to hand them over to social services, probably less time than it took to jam scissors into the backs of their necks and sever their spinal cords. No more excuses, no more euphemisms, let their evil be laid bare for this country to see so we will finally wake up and end it once and for all. No more platitudes about common ground or strawmen about fetal pain or gestational age or sentience. No more.
I have no words to describe exactly how twisted, horrific, and sickening this is.
The silence from prochoice here is indeed deafening. I remember months and months ago, one of the prochoicers telling me “it can’t happen here, it’s illegal!”. Yeah right! And if they think this baby butcher is the only one, they are nuts. If there is one, there are more. If any good can come from this, it’s that people are talking! I heard about this from 2 different people at work today. Awareness is the key, as Jill Guidry has told me time and time again.
Come on Megan, er, nagem. You were being so snide on another thread. Lets hear your defense of this. These mothers were just exercising their reproductive choice. If its not a baby in the womb its not a baby when it comes out. There was no crime here, right Megan? Just killing parasite fetuses. Right? In fact, those photos are doctored. The police and everyone else doctored them! Right? Right? Hello?
Yeah, didn’t think Hal, DD, Megan and the rest would have the gall to support this. But this, ladies and gentleman, is choice.
Speechless! God help us all!
This is NOT pro-choice. This is sick, twisted, and illegal. There is a huge difference between a gestational age of 8 weeks and 18 weeks, let alone 28 weeks. What this doctor did is wrong. The pro-choice contingent are not posting because *nobody* is defending this man’s actions. *Everyone* is horrified.
There is a huge difference between a gestational age of 8 weeks and 18 weeks, let alone 28 weeks.
Ok. But what about 18 and 28 weeks? 22 and 28 weeks? WHY, Ann? WHY should that make such a huge difference?! WHY?!
What was illegal, Ann, was that he neglected to kill the babies immediately BEFORE they exited the womb.
Heyo Sydney. Did try to comment on the Gosnell scandal thread yesterday, but wasn’t allowed to somehow, had to switch back to the ole tricky moniker. Anyway, let’s see if this works.
Being pro-choice doesn’t mean absolutism. I’ve never put 100% faith in any institution I support, and NAF truly dropped the ball if they didn’t report this Kermit guy. Maybe they thought denouncing this barbaric excuse for healthcare would bring just more unwanted exposure to abortion providers who act within the bounds of legality. Regardless, it was a poor choice. And no, Gosnell and his staff weren’t justified in killing born infants.
Women facing crisis pregnancies deserve access to contraception and to safe, legal and early abortion. Almost 90% of counties in PA lack an abortion provider, and yet none of the Gosnell scandal coverage discusses why this guy had a market niche. What barriers existed to early abortion access for these women? Why were they so desparate to accept these pitiful conditions?
I will now go cry and puke. God help us. This is “pro-choice”. This is “reproductive freedom”. This is “a woman’s right to choose”. This is how we “trust women”. This is “every baby a wanted baby”. This is helping women to avoid “the slavery of carrying a pregnancy to term”. This what we have come to in this nation and world. We are so intelligent, enlightened and politically correct.
All people who abort their children and the people who perform those such abortions will go to hell. BTW Jeffrey Dahmer did not repent and was murdered in prison like he desreved and is in hell this very moment. Good thing he has lots of company.
alife”lover”,
I genuinely hope that you are a pro-abortion troll stirring up trouble for the fun of it. Regardless, just the fact that you would make this statement concerns me seriously and I will add you to my prayer list.
Ann,
It seems to me that if the pro-abortion group felt truly horrified at this doctor, you would be outraged and feel the need to shout it from the rooftops! What about women’s rights? What about safe legal and rare? What about what’s best? This is a man who brutalized women and babies, who ignored health and safety concerns. And the NAF sheltered him by choosing not to report his “business” for the glaring faults. What about women???
Megan @ 9:46 PM,
Almost 90% of counties in PA lack an abortion provider, and yet none of the Gosnell scandal coverage discusses why this guy had a market niche. What barriers existed to early abortion access for these women? Why were they so desparate to accept these pitiful conditions?
It’s not difficult to figure out how this could have happened to these women. It’s usually a lack of outside support that drives a woman to abort. She’s afraid, she’s alone, she’s sometimes coerced. Perhaps there weren’t enough Pregnancy Care centers in the neighborhood. Perhaps these women had been taken in by pro-abort propaganda that calls abortion a right, a choice, a necessary evil.
alifelover,
That is a lie from the pit of hell. Jesus saves and forgives for ALL sins including abortion for those that repent and seek His loving mercy and grace.
Hi Ann,
Either we are talking about a living human being or we aren’t.
If the unborn are NOT human then no justification for elective abortion is necessary. But if the unborn ARE human, NO justification for elective abortion is adequate.
-Gregory Koukl
“Regardless, it was a poor choice. And no, Gosnell and his staff weren’t justified in killing born infants.”
Megan, how about if he slit their necks when they were inside the womb? that would be ok, correct?
Oh, how lovely pro-choicers are…
Oh, look! The folks over at Abortion Gang seem to think there is no such thing as too soon. The day after Gosnell was arrested ultimately due to insufficient regulations on abortion clinics as ASFs and non-enforcement of the ones that did exist, they plastered up a post talking about how crazy it is that Maryland wants to regulate abortion mills as ASFs!
These people are clearly not on the same page as reality.
Kermit Gosnell is satan himself and anyone who would participate in the destruction of late term fetal abortions are evil. They should all get the death penalty!!!!!!
This is satanic… I experienced SRA and the things that happened in this man’s “clinic” are true to my own experience (of “abortions” that were against my will), which I KNOW were part of the satanic ritual abuse I endured.
Hello my dear Kimberly!! :)
Thank you for your voice here!!
Wow, Carla… I didn’t know you were here! :) Thank YOU!! It feels good to be heard!!
Dear everyone,
I am an atheist. I do not believe in nor have a use for a god of any kind.
I still know right from wrong.
This thing that these doctors have done? It horrifies me. It makes me physically ill that people would do such a thing to innocent babies. Please do not lump me in with these lunatics.
Thank you.
The atheists say “Why doesn’t God speak, do something? He must not exist.” God HAS done something! The inspection team that reported this ghoul’s den called an abortion facility finally HAD to report this to the DA’s office, when so many others had failed to do so. That was a GOD-incident ! NOW, it’s OUR turn to act! I personally have little faith in the judicial system, which often protects these killers (remember Terri Schiavo, anyone?) The media may bury this story, but more likely they will”spin” it, or “frame” it, and may even try to blame this on Pro Lifers somehow. Imagine Peter Singer as star witness for the defense, saying killing of infants is “ethical”. Imagine a clever lawyer like John Edwards making the case that to keep these tragedies from happening again, abortion should be made safe-er, and ALL abortions should be induced, then killed, for the “health of the mother” (remember safe-er sex?). Only when these killers are tried and convicted and sentenced will some justice be done. The judicial system emerged from Christianity. Romans crucified for political reasons or none. Even ghouls get fair trials now. Let’s pray that they get theirs.
With the 38th anniversary of that sad day when abortion was decriminalized in the United States coming tomorrow, one wonders if President Obama will use the occasion to offer his apologies for enabling this tragedy to escalate, or will he try to put his lawyerly skills to work, and work a different angle? One hopes for the former, but expects the latter. PRESIDENT OBAMA: SPEAK TO YOUR COUNTRY !!! Lead us OUT of temptation ! REPENT !!
Cam thank you for coming and posting here. We appreciate that you realize how horrific this whole fiasco is. Please accept our heartbreak and tears joining with yours about this. We know there are people (yes even atheist like yourself) who are outraged by this. Thank you for your sensitivity. Peace to you.
I am an old guy, but I was wondering today how young people are “reading” this tragic event. On You Tube found the heartbreaking answer. A teenage girl speaks from the heart. The tag says
my opinion on this abortion guy aka Dr. Kermit Gosnell thats been on the news
It will break your heart. The “cost” of abortion that’s incalculable is in broken hearts, in the fear and despair quotient. Listen to what we’ve done, by letting her grow up in a country that decriminalizes the murder of innocents. She deserves better from us grown folks.
My prayer:
That my children will see abortion become illegal in our country.
It is going to happen, Praxedes. But what a price we will be (and are) paying. The cumulative effect of the loss of millions of God’s beautiful children cannot be overstated. The vibrancy of life, the joy, the creativity, the work, the inspiration, the love…we have none of this from those millions. If we collapse economically or are severely challenged (perhaps overrun) by warring adversaries it will be because we slaughtered our young and they were not here to make their mark on the world and contribute to society in a thousand ways.
I’m making excellent process in the wikification of the entire Grand Jury Report. Volunteers to help would be welcome:
http://kermitgosnellcrimes.wikispaces.com/
Prax,
I pray that I will have children who are born into a nation without legalized abortion.
i just wanna know how could you be so evil to sit there and kill a baby thats damn there fully grown and i really wanna know how do the people that get the abortions how do yall think about getting abortions that late i believe that it is very wrong and honestly i think that they all should get the death penalty and i dont believe in killings but this is just plain sick you shouldnt kill no child i am pro-life so i dont believe in this abortion thing. i understand if you feels as though you dont wanna take care of a child i think you should give the baby up for adoption. i dont think ANY child should die at all.
Diamond welcome aboard and i agree with you “I don’t think ANY child should die at all”. God bless you We must expose this horrible situation for the whole nation to know what is happening to precious innocent babies. Adoption is the LOVING option.
The problem of evil, personified. 100% Poof that your god does not exist. Your god had no concern for these unwanted babies. This is your gods “plan” in action. Rejoice! It’s all part of the grand plan of the omniscient, omnipotent (nonexistent) god.
Ella,
What sort of God would deny mankind free will?
He is calling you. Will you hear His Word?
May His peace be with you.
God took those children unto Him and calls those after their abortions to repent. It is what my Lord and Savior did for me and my daughter who died in my abortion.
He saves all of those who have been crushed in spirit after their abortions.
Oh, my God. These atrocities must break Your heart more than we could ever imagine.
Oh Lord, be swift to deliver us.
Oh God, make haste to save us.
Honestly these things make me so sick and yes, it makes me cry-out loud as i am a mother myself, but i DO NOT believe that people should be saying that this is what pro-choice people want-this is one man and his little ‘crew’ of baby-killers, not an entire classroom of men and women who are learning abortions in med school. The fact that there is the ‘right’ way and a wrong way to do this procedure- and its alot more than just wether or not the abortion was done inside or outside the body…this demon man was very much doing things the WRONG way and comparing him to men and women that HELP women who have been raped by a stranger or worse yet, by a family member and would rather kill herself than give birth to a child concieved during that rape is a horrible thing to do. And it is true, the majority of all abortions done in hospitals or womens clinics that are run 100% proper are definately before 9 weeks-NO HOSPITAL would ever even consider an abortion for someone past even 3 months, simply put any woman who wants the procedure done knows that long before the 1st month is up, anyone else probably doesn’t know what to do until it’s too late. I truly beleive that people who are pro-choice really only want that option to be available for the women out there who as i said already, have been horribly raped and end up pregnant, and dont want to be forced to carry for 10 months and give birth to a child that was concieved under such horrific circumstances. I think that THAT is far too cruel to expect women (or very young girls) to HAVE to live with that type of burden.
But this demon on Earth should be executed the same way he executed these innocents….and sent swiftly to Hell.
Satan is the author of death any way you put it… no matter the age of the child! To say the baby deserves the death penalty for the crime of the father is sickening in and of itself!
I myself have suffered horrible and brutal rapes and pregnancies and would MUCH RATHER have carried my babies than to have been forced to abort/kill my babies. The grief is beyond words… the pain is beyond words!!!!!!!
More women who get abortions choose suicide than those who carry a baby from rape… just plain fact. To say death is the answer is a LIE of satan.
When I was recently sexually assaulted (by far, not the first time!) I thought I was pregnant …I would’ve carried my baby GLADLY!! My only fear was that I had been impregnated purposefully so that they could do the same to this baby as they had done when I was younger…force me to abort/kill (for satanic purposes).
Another thing: If abortions were illegal, it would benefit EVERYONE! If a young girl, teenager, etc was raped and abortions were not available, the perps would NOT HAVE AN EASY OUT!!!!! That would deter a few perps from doing what they do …a few! BUT, more perps would be found out, because someone would find out when that girl is carrying a child. (We all know that Planned Parenthood is a “safe haven” for perps who are trying to hide the fact that they raped a girl and got her pregnant!!!)
Is that heartless to say that girl should carry the child of a rape? NO! Her life was already a hell on earth. And as I already shared …I’d rather have been allowed to carry/keep my babies.
Also, if abortions were not available (legally) then more young people would choose abstinence. OH! Imagine the “consequences” of having a girl realize that she might have to carry a baby if she engages in permiscuous activities! (Or a boy, for that matter!)
Planned Parenthood is a criminal enterprise, self-perpetuating, like drug trafficking, where buyers become sellers, creating ever more victims.
“Bystanders” must choose coping mechanisms, and indifference , anger toward Pro Life, or rationalizing a result. Hannah Arendt described the “mood” of Germany during holocaust as “banality of evil”. This mood can be manipulated by media, politicians for personal gain, creating more victims.
The abilities and possibilities of youth are wasted if just “good” is the goal( the road to hell is paved with good intentions), because fallen human nature will fall to bad. Excellence must be the goal, and then “good” will usually be a RESULT of striving for best.
Victim/Redeemer model or victim/victimizer model ? CHOOSE ( no other possible choices ). Kimberly: God loves you, child….thanks for speaking out…Love is on the way & “I’m Already There” (in the message you’ve bravely shared)..holy..just…holy.
I would not and will not pray for this man nor the “people” who followed after him, I do NOT believe this man deserves to be forgiven. Someone who makes a mistake once maybe twice is worthy of forgiveness, but never something this horrendous, nor this many times, 100s of times to forgive someone is to forgive a mistake, this was more than intentional, and he found some sort of enjoyment from it, making jokes and laughing, do you really believe this to be a mistake? Yet you forgive this man. (sarcastically) oh yes, everyone should forgive this man, just give him a slap on the wrist and tell him not to do it again and let him go I’m sure we can trust him huh?
First of all, I am not GOD, to give forgiveness. Second, fist amendment is “Thou shall NOT KILL. To pray to GOD, and JUSTIFY and ask for this man to be forgiven, makes you just as sick. I am not saying I am in any way a “perfect” person, no one is. But come on think about this, not only is this man killing innocents, but in a way torturing them as well feeling no remorse. If this bothered him do you really think he’d continue doing it? Laughing and making jokes about it? NO! He liked it!
No, I do not believe he should be put to death, then we are just murderers ourselves. However, I think this man should spend the rest of his days in solitary confinement, to never she the light of day again til he has left his body. NOT as punishment,for only GOD can truly punish evil. NOT as torture, but as means of protection for ourselves and other innocents to come.
If you don’t agree with me honestly I don’t care, but it is common sense, and we all understand the bible differently. If you believe that, PRAYING, for this man, and FORGIVING, this man, makes you a bigger, better person than I, than all the power to you, but I think you have a serious problem if you do. Why don’t you convince the judge to give him a second chance and invite him to your home and hire him as a babysitter, there’s no reason not to if you forgive him right? you’re saying that it’s okay what he did basically, and it’s not in any way okay.
grrr uggh! this is so upsetting!
Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you. -Ephesians 4:31-32
Abortionists are evil.
Kermit Gosnell should be killed in the same fashion as the children he slaughtered.
What about the mothers who agreed to have the procedure? Shouldn’t they get punished too? They know that they are far along enough for the baby to survive but yet choose to give permission to someone else to murder their baby. Where’s their justice. They are just as bad and guilty. Shame on them!
This is the most horiable thing i have ever heard of in my life. Im reading this while hold my 3 week old newborn son and dont understand how anybody could ever do that to a baby. Those ppl need to have their necks slit. I dont even believe in abortion but thats past abortion thats murder and they deserve to be murdered…
Slow down Haley, that doesn’t do anyone any good.
After reading these comments I now understand why the USA has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the Industrialized World.
“After reading these comments I now understand why the USA has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the Industrialized World.”
WTF?
What JDC? You didn’t know that the USA is #1 in this category and that the attitudes reflected in this thread contribute to the problem?
Hatred of abortion (and infanticide) causes teen pregnancy? Who knew!
I knew that the USA was, as you say, number one in this category but the wtf was directed at the other point in your statement. I admit I have not read the entirety of this thread but I don’t see how hatred of this particular abortionist’s practices causes teen pregnancy, as his patients would already be pregnant by the time they got to him.
This has made me sick to my stomach. I cant believe the amount of evil in this world. I can only pray that when I die, im not sent to hell for an eternity with people that can do such things.
Concerned Mike,
i am concerned you will come back as a emergency room physician who must deal daily with the brutal effects of botched home and back alley abortions in a society that denies women the right to choose.
According to the CDC’s estimates, 39 women died from illegal abortions in 1972 (the year before Roe v. Wade). Or if you want the more liberal estimate, Planned Parenthood’s chief statistician puts the number at 500 per year prior to Roe. This is a far cry from even one botched abortion case per ER doctor per day.
You should also recall that Kermit Gosnell ran his House of Horrors in America, where abortion is legal, not Ireland (which does not have legal abortion yet still has one of the lowest maternal mortality rates in the world).
I am an atheist, and pro choice. This post horrifies me. This is sick and turns my stomach. This is exactly why these clinics need to be closely regulated and monitored.
I had never heard of this before. Didn’t realize it was from 2011 until I took a closer look at the comments. I don’t understand how people can still be pro choice like the comment above me and say this turns there stomach and yet they are okay with a woman having the right to choose to have a baby torn limb from limb at an earlier age of gestation. How does this make pro choicers sick to their stomach, but abortion doesn’t????
This is where people need to wake up. Yes this post is horrific, I was in tears, the poor babies. But the babies inside the womb feel pain too.
I’m an atheist, and pro-life. This post horrifies me. But then again, abortion (killing a child) at ANY age horrifies me. I don’t see why there should be such a huge difference to you a few weeks before and not a few weeks after, Victoria.
its really wrong and shameful act… Do you people know that how many innocent children r bn killed by Israel in Gaza. they burn them alive..
As horrible as those photos are most Americans don’t want to see women reduced to beasts of burden by taking away a choice, that in the end, only they can make. And if the Pro-life forces are victorious, the best they will get are some states eliminating choice and others maintaining a woman’s right to choose. And of course, women with means will get safe abortions where ever they live and those without means will have to take their chances.
Umm…expecting women to care for the children we create rather than have them killed is no more reducing us to “beasts of burden” than going after men for child support does the same to them. But thanks for sharing your opinion of mothers with us.
Where do these knuckle-headed (and dragging) trolls come from?
Ari, self-hating much? Israel is fighting double-war-crimes thugs. They send missles to the schools of your baby cousins and hide next to their own children.
Tom, it’s your ilk that consider babies mere “beasts” that burden them.
Even if all the abortion clinics were closed in the USA (and that will never happen as there will always be some states that would respect women’s rights) the number of women who seek an abortion would not decrease. What would INCREASE is the number women who would die or suffer serious medical problems after attempting to perform their own abortions, or going to untrained doctors who perform cheap abortions in unsanitary conditions. If clinics are closed, women will still continue to attempt, and succeed, in ending unwanted pregnancies just like before 1973 a la Vera Drake and Mad Men.
Sorry to hear of what you had to endure under Ireland’s ban on abortion and your eventual death Savita. Lack of medical access didn’t kill you Savita. Politics did.
Even if all the abortion clinics were closed in the USA (and that will never happen as there will always be some states that would respect women’s rights) the number of women who seek an abortion would not decrease.
Why not? Wasn’t it once thought that some states would always have slavery and racial segregation? Furthermore, do you really think that most women wouldn’t follow the law? Doesn’t it mean something if the number of abortions doubled in the eight years following Roe? Or what about this study from Eastern Europe?
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:dgpzxlQboE0J:www.dartmouth.edu/~dstaiger/Papers/LevineStaiger%2520JLE%25202004.pdf+The+Journal+of+Law+and+Economics+abortion+in+eastern+europe&hl=en&gl=ca&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgHVHsmd2qCbCfe_HlDZho_o-c0k2BRk-MWfA_2yyyP8h7kknG8uyviPas52KrUF5fZF7MB7EXJR0XAlSnImrOCR1LhzbwAqU3g32JR2m0fKR9l3wfC1mwKHdeVjsFJpjyuk4bM&sig=AHIEtbRnTJ_lLysJHcJerbrInkSI-7fNlg
What would INCREASE is the number women who would die or suffer serious medical problems after attempting to perform their own abortions, or going to untrained doctors who perform cheap abortions in unsanitary conditions. If clinics are closed, women will still continue to attempt, and succeed, in ending unwanted pregnancies just like before 1973 a la Vera Drake and Mad Men.
Ireland (despite what you might think from reading sensationalistic stories in the mass media) has one of the lowest maternal mortality rates in the world, yet does not have a single abortion clinic. Prior to legalization in the United States, over 90% of abortions were performed by doctors in sterile conditions (in fact, some abortionists actually relaxed the precautions they took to protect women after it became legal).
http://rtlcc.org/docs/backalley/e-PPDismissesMyth.pdf
Finally, the argument from back-alley abortions begs the question. It relies on one of two premises, neither of which abortion opponents are going to automatically accept:
1. Abortion is not an unacceptable act of violence against an innocent human being.
2. The law should be faulted if it makes it more difficult to kill innocent human beings.
Instead of watching Mad Men, I think you should read the best on your side before attacking ours. Philosopher Mary Anne Warren, in one of the most widely cited essays defending legalized abortion, writes the following: