New Stanek WND.com column, “MTV abortion special: Happy for the kill”
On Dec. 28, MTV aired the abortion special, “No Easy Decision,” apparently yielding to pressure from abortion ideologues upset that its two highly rated shows on unplanned pregnancies, “16 and Pregnant” and “Teen Mom,” are both life-affirming….
If you haven’t watched it, you can do so on MTV’s website….
MTV aired “No Easy Decision” as a half-hour special sans commercials on a Tuesday night at 11:30 p.m., which says how much MTV really wanted to do this….
Abortion groups like NARAL and Feministing promoted “No Easy Decision” in advance. Afterward abortion proponents were elated….
Well, I’ve watched “No Easy Decision” four times now only to increasingly wonder what there was for the other side to crow about….
Aside from Dr. Drew’s advocacy of contraception and abortion and the obviously prepped abortion clinic counselor on the phone, the reality of abortion decision-making and its aftermath came painfully through. Four of those unhelpful realities noted were…
This is the show that “thrilled” abortion proponents, as the pro-abort blog Jezebel exclaimed?
It seems to me the pro-abort crowd is by this time in the history of legalized abortion merely happy with crumbs, for the simple display of abortion, even with all its catastrophic negatives….
Continue reading my column today, “MTV abortion special: Happy for the kill,” at WorldNetDaily.com.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
One of the most telling moments was at the end interviewing the two post abortive women. The one who said she felt only relief broke into tears…..relief?
The other one who said she went and got a judicial bypass because she did not want her parents to be disappointed in her and they gave it to her. Makes a mockery of the parental notification rules.
How about interviewing the thousands of post abortive moms who have been hurt by their abortions that make up groups like Silent No More and Operation Outcry??
How about airing the show Faces of Abortion?
http://www.operationoutcry.org/pages.asp?pageid=27773
I saw that show when Jill posted the link on here. It made me so sad. I wanted to hug Markai and said “No, there are other options! You do NOT have to abort!” I felt so helpless watching it.
Abortion is terrible.
You know what I noticed from the show? She barely spent any time thinking before agreeing to the abortion. Even though Markai was obviously torn and hurting, she still scheduled her abortion very rapidly. And the influences around her all were pushing for abortion without encouraging any real dialogue or thought! It seems to me that MTV’s special, rather than showing how much contemplation Markai did to arrive at the decision to abort, showed instead how a desperate young woman turned immediately to the answer she was having pushed at her and then regretted it.
I agree MaryRose. A rash decision made in fear is hardly well thought out.
Carla,
I imagine you could offer more insight than I could, but it seems as though that is most often the case with abortion-the decision is made quickly and in a state of panic rather than receiving due consideration.
Absolutely.
The dust hardly settles around the positive pregnancy test and the call is made for an abortion. I know I was in total shock, couldn’t think clearly and if given TIME and an opportunity to talk with someone supportive(who didn’t push the choice of abortion)I might have chosen differently. I rushed out of fear and desperation.
Are there any pro-life organizations that distribute pregnancy tests? It seems like we need very much to get women to stop for just a moment and consider the fact that they DO have options before rushing to the abortionist’s arms…
All PRC’s I know of give free pregnancy tests. On site.
That is the thing. Feeling like you have no choice but to abort is not choice.
No, I know that but I wonder if there is an organization that offers them without having to make the appointment to go in… if we can get to you before getting you in the door it seems ideal.
Mary Rose, Birthright also will do a pregnancy test.
I use to volunteer for them years ago. They also will help women find everything they need and provide the mom with a layette for her baby.
Carla made an interesting point about TIME. For proaborts time is of the essence because that baby continues to grow minute by minute. And of course the faster they can push the woman into aborting well, that’s money in their pocket.
There is a saying from St. Ignatius: If you don’t know what to do, do NOTHING.
That is a decision made in haste is often regretted….
See, the time thing is exactly why I mention the pregnancy test. I know that when DH and I went in to get a pregnancy test, it was after we had already had a positive at-home test. If we had at-home tests with pro-life material in the box, it seems like we could catch more people before they ever call PP.
Angel,
There was an absolute feeling of URGENCY at the abortion clinic. There’s No Time. No time to think or ponder or wonder or let things settle a bit. Hurry. Rush. Pay for it, get it over with and leave!!!
With our fourth child I was not in a good place. Didn’t know how in the world I was going to raise four children, we were in serious debt and having marital difficulties. I couldn’t imagine my life with my youngest. Now I cannot imagine my life without him.
I wish there had been more time spent on the conversation with Erica. To me, that looked like where she made the decision, if she hadn’t already (she had certainly already ruled out adoption). Erica also seemed like the best ‘sounding board’–she seemed more ambivalent about abortion than either James or Markai’s mother. I felt the whole story was a bit rushed–I don’t know if that was because they were trying to stick to a half hour slot, or because there just wasn’t that much material.
I am curious why she had a surgical procedure done, if it was because that clinic didn’t offer medical abortions or if she was offered it and decided against it.
It’ll be hard for them to claim now that women are informed, that they are aware of all their options, that they brush off an abortion as just a minor blip.
They’ve undone a lot of their own propaganda in their drive to depict an abortion choice.
Now all we have to do is say, “Is that the best we could do for this girl? Why didn’t anybody offer her any real help? It’s what she WANTED. And would have CHOSEN.”
This is like “In Necessity and Sorrow.” They’ll come to regret it. So prolifers better get copies now.
I would like for the show to go back and interview the couple in a few years then 10 years, then 20 years then 30 years..etc. Many women don’t hit that wall of pain until many years later. I hope if and when she does she doesn’t call EXHALE for help!
It’s a tragedy that no parent, uncle or grandfather ever cared enough about the boyfriend to instill any sense of responsibility, any maturity, or any character whatsoever.
Ed, I noticed on MTV’s site a lot of praise for the father. I have to admit to some concern if this is what most of America considers a good husband and father!
I’m willing to bet that in 20 years, some journalist will interview some of these girls who had abortions and we’ll finally see the true damage that their decision (or lack there of) had HUGE consequences later in life.
I will totally bet with you Cory.
The proaborts will just say, “Not every woman has the same reactions and feelings about their abortion! Some regret it and some don’t and blah, blah, blah.”
Would Markai have had the abortion if ANYONE would have stepped up to tell her YOU CAN DO THIS AND I WILL HELP YOU??!! I am thinking no.
It probably seemed rushed because she contacted MTV after she had already made the choice to abort. So alot of scenes were reacted.
I think it’s very brave for these women to come forward and I would be interested in seeing them 20 or 30 years from now. Granted, anti-choicers have to agree to leave them alone. I would image some women who later “regret” their abortions do so because they recieve constant harrassment for anti-choicers. When you have people constantly calling you a murderer every day when they don’t know the story, I’m sure it gets to you.
I don’t have to agree to leave anyone alone who puts themselves in the spotlight.
20 years ago I had an abortion. Nobody had to tell me or harass me or call me a murderer. Proaborts now call me a slut and a whiner and a liar because I speak out about how my abortion devastated me. Please tell them to leave me alone. Thank you.
I knew deep down that my baby was alive inside me when I walked into that abortion clinic and she was dead when I left. And I never told a soul for 7 years. I finally faced that truth.
In 10 years if any of these girls is struggling I pray they reach out for help. I will offer them the same support and encouragement that I have received.
I will offer them the same support and encouragement that I have received.
There are angels among us if you’re willing to look Chelle.
God bless you, Carla!
Chelle, I think your preconceptions about actively prolife individuals require some fine-tuning.
LOVE WINS!!!
I am so glad you are both here. Your passion for the preborn and their mommies is beautiful!!
I’ve never known any pro-choicers to tell people to get abortions. Note: suggesting the pros of having one is no the same as telling people to get one.
I am so glad you are both here. Your passion for the preborn and their mommies is beautiful!!
As long as the mommies do what anti-choicers say, right.
I mean, if these girls come back in 30 years and say they have no regret, then what. Are you going to believe them or tell them to come back in 20 more years? And if they do and still have no regrets?
Just because you’ve made a choice you regret doesn’t mean other women shouldn’t be able to make that choice.
Chelle, even if you choose abortion, we’ll be there to help you pick up the pieces of your life. We’ll help you find life after abortion.
What will planned parenthood offer? Contraceptives.
I’ve noticed a tendency on this board to asume if a woman is pro-choice that they are thinking about or had an abortion. I’ve never been pregnant (safe sex hasn’t failed me yet!)
Regards, if I choose abortion, come to you and tell you I don’t regret it, I’ll know exactly what I’ll be offer – someone yelling murderer in my face and trying to impose their beliefs on me.
Who obviously doesn’t share those beliefs.
I’ve sorry but even the stories I’ve heard on here from women that regret their abortions don’t include anyone holding them down and forcing it on them. Their stories include them deciding to get an abortion, go to a clinc for an abortion, willing sitting through the procedure and then paying for the abortion. And then they regret it.
Not to be callous but it seems to be convinent.
I’m not going to say that some women don’t genuinely regret their abortions. Nor am I going to say that some women aren’t put in the position to have abortions that they wouldn’t decide to get if things were different. But the answer is to provide more help, not less by removing abortion.
Because some women could have the most perfect life in the world – financally, educationally, career-wise, family – ready to have a child as viewed by others. And yet, they’ll still opt to abort and not give it a second thought.
As I pointed out, a woman could of had her abortion 50 years ago and not regret it and what will you all say to her? “Murderer” and that she’ll regret it someday.
Pro-choice does not force you to have abortion and go against your beliefs.
Hi again Chelle,
You do not know the relationship between other commenters and I so I am curious why you would even say anything about my note to MaryRose a Praxedes.
It is MORE than regret I feel. Not speaking for anyone else. ME. My daughter was alive before my abortion and after my abortion she was dead. That is the truth. I was there and paid for it. I was LIED to and coerced into an abortion I didn’t want and in total fear and desperation I had an abortion. They lied to me by omission.
I never said WHEN they feel regret. I said IF. Big difference there.
20 years of this journey and I get emails every week from women that are struggling after their abortions. I know many that have been forced by parents, boyfriends and even held down at the clinic and aborted against their will. Many were not given an ultrasound, a pregnancy test or told ANY risks of abortion. They were treated rudely by staff, they called the clinic later for help and were told to call their dr. They KNEW something was so very wrong and yet the message was, YOU DID THE RIGHT THING. If it is so right, why do they feel so awful? They are suffering, they are in pain, they don’t know where to turn and you would deny them their right to grieve by saying that sounds convenient? How cold and cruel of you.
I suggest you start reading some abortion stories of women that have been hurt by abortion. Silent No More is a good place to start. When someone is offered NO HELP or SUPPORT and all they say to you is ABORT how is that choice? When a woman feels like she has no choice as all of her family and friends back away, compounded by the fact that she is lied to about the development of her baby, how is that CHOICE?
You are the one assuming. You are the one sounding callous toward those that have been devastated by their abortions and would have NEVER considered it had they known what they know now.
Please cut and paste where anyone called anyone else here a murderer.
Prochoice to do what exactly?? I am prochoice on hair, makeup, perfume, body piercings and tattoos.
This is my story.
http://outcrywisconsin.blogspot.com/2009/03/my-story-at-faith-community-church.html
My deepest pain, Chelle has become my greatest passion. I can hardly bear the fact that women are alone and desperate for help and I will do whatever I can, whatever it takes to be there for them!!
Please email me if you need my help today. If anyone is reading this and is hurting after your abortion, I am here for you.
carla@jillstanek.com
Hi Carla,
Oddly enough my post had nothing to do with you. MaryRose spoke directly to me her in last two posts. Do you not see that? She says Chelle twice.
Unfortunatly Carla, as someone who is anti-choice, you are trying to speak for other people. You are trying to remove an option for all women based on your situtation.
Did you not read where I said there should be more services for women who are pregnant? However, this does not mean removing abortion as an option just because you have regrets.
Have you read stories about how abortion has helped women? I suggest you start.
Please note I said some women, I certainly did not say all women. And when I mean convinet, these are the types of stories I’m refering to: http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html
No one on this particular thread has said “murderer”. But on this site – it’s all over! Just go look at the first thread on MTV’s No Easy Decision. A poster name Shannon came and said she had no regrets over her abortion. She was called murderer by several posters and straight out harrassed. I believe you may have been one of them.
I’m sorry you’re hurting and I wish there had been resources to help you. However, by removing abortions, you’ll be hurting women as well. Is that what you want?
Further, abortions happen whether they are legal or not. Even if abortions were outlawed when you had yours, if you were truely forced (and I certainly wasn’t there and only you know for sure, but then again, memories are sometimes cloudly) how do you know you wouldn’t have been forced to have an illegal abortion – which would of sifficantly risked your life as well.
Again, I’m sorry for your pain but that does not give you the right to advocate the removal of a right that many women do not regret.
Further, abortion is just a tool. It seems that your real issues, anger and passion should be against the people – parents, boyfriends – who force these girls to get abortions rather than abortion itself.
It’s like blaming a baseball bat when it’s your boyfriend’s fault for you using it to beat you.
Misplacement, you see.
Oddly enough the comment I made to Prax and MaryRose had nothing to do with you and yet you commented on it.
So. We are missing a VERY important person in this discussion. The innocent, preborn human child who is killed in an abortion and never has a choice. I would like to see babies who are conceived LIVE.
I am speaking out on behalf of myself and the THOUSANDS of women and men who have been hurt by abortion. Our stories of abuse, coercion, force, lies, deceit and abandonment by those that claimed to care are irrefutable. There is nothing to argue. I am a state leader for Operation Outcry. We have collected nearly 5,000 declarations by those that have been hurt by abortion. They are used to further prolife legislation and are filed as friend of the court briefs.
Please cut and paste where I called Shannon a murderer. My job here is not to harass. I am a moderator here and a post abortive mom who has something to say. If someone comes to a prolife blog to spout the joys of her abortion one would think they should expect some kind of push back from those who disagree!! That seems like a given.
Thanks for the sorry but I am fully free, fully forgiven and healing. I still grieve my daughter who died on September 5th, 1990. Her name is Aubrey and I love her and honor her short life by telling my story.
btw So far there are 3 women that I know of who changed their minds from getting an abortion to choosing life after hearing my story. THAT is what I want. THAT is what I am praying for. Hearts turning toward life. I love post abortive women. The ones that regret and the ones that don’t. I used to be prochoice you see. I used to be adamant about my abortion!!
Oh believe me there is anger for those that force women to get abortions. But there is also justice!! Center Against Forced Abortion
http://www.txjf.org/pages.asp?pageid=99931
They are not exactly forcing them to eat ice cream. Forcing someone to get an abortion against their will is against the law. Have you never read the stories of women refusing to abort and being killed because of it???
I sense some anger from you. But I suppose that is fine…well…because it’s coming from you, right? Your anger must be justified because you are fine with abortion.
You don’t seem to be understanding a thing I say, Chelle.
About the “memories are cloudy” comment?? If you would like ALL of the gritty, dirty details please email me.
If you want to keep talking can we please go to a more recent thread?? :)
PS
I have never heard of “abortion as a tool.” Do you mean an excuse to argue? No. It is much more personal than that for me.
BTW if I don’t respond, it’s not because I’m “running away” but rather I have a job interview to get ready for.
No worries, Chelle!! You know where to find me!! :)
Catch you later and GOOD LUCK on the job interview!!
I’ve never known any pro-choicers to tell people to get abortions. Note: suggesting the pros of having one is no the same as telling people to get one.
Chelle, during 2/3 of my pregnancies, I was told be several proaborts to get an abortion. Happens all the time.
What are the pros of having an abortion?
Chelle,
I don’t come on this board to demonize or caracaterize pro-abortion advocates in any way. I would welcome you if you felt so inclined to show me where I have called a pro-abortion individual a murderer or accused them of being post-abortive.
I feel for women. I have 2 sons of my own and was not wealthy either time we became pregnant. With my first son, my husband and I were both recently jobless. If ever there was a time to panic, that certainly felt like the time. Not realizing that they didn’t provide prenatal services, I even went into my local Planned Parenthood, where the nurse sat with me and pushed me about why I was choosing to keep the baby when I didn’t have the ability to finance a pregnancy, let alone the child. She encouraged me to look into “the options.” She was very soft-spoken and gentle about the whole thing, and I believe that she honestly thought abortion was my best option, but she tried numerous times to push me into a decision I did not want. I can certainly understand why a young woman unsure of her options would choose abortion during a visit like mine.
My younger son is only 17 months younger than his older brother. When I began to tell people that I was pregnant, a number of my friends and acquaintances, people who know that I am actively pro-life, asked me things like, “Are you thinking about taking care of this one?” and “Now do you want abortion to be illegal?” as though having one child somehow justified killing his brother. The more mild-mannered pro-abortion advocates I know said things like, “How did that happen?” “Forget how birth control works?” and “Trying to catch up to your mother?” (I am the eldest of 10). It was exclusively my pro-life friends who ever said “Congratulations” at any time before his birth.
With such negative reactions to pregnancy, how can we expect women to choose life?
Chelle, I will be honest. I think that women who choose abortion are turning to their hurt and despair. I do not think they are making the choice out of a sense of love and security. And I feel that they are preyed-upon by an enemy not of human origin. I feel for those women and I want better for them.
That said, I am not anti-abortion for women’s sake so much as for the child’s sake. I I do believe that there are many good reasons why abortion is a burden on women, but it is not the primary reason why I oppose the termination of a growing human as a “right.” I oppose abortion because it ends a human life. You will find very few people on this board who have other primary reasons.
(And for the record, Carla’s reaction was to this post yesterday at 11:27:
I am so glad you are both here. Your passion for the preborn and their mommies is beautiful!!
As long as the mommies do what anti-choicers say, right.)