“I don’t know how anybody could suggest that there is any rape that is acceptable,” she said. “I just think it sends a very clear message direct from the heart of the Republican party to women in America about exactly how Republicans feel about women.”
~Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schulz (D-FL), commenting on the “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act,” as quoted by the CBS Evening News, February 1
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To be fair here, the language in this bill with regards to the rape exception is very poorly chosen. “Forcible rape?” No, I’m sorry, all rape is rape. Either all rape is an exception or none of it is. I would prefer that the bill take the position that none of it is.
Having said that, I don’t think for a second any of the pro-aborts who are crawling out of the woodwork to object to that language will withdraw their objections to the bill if the language is changed. They don’t care about rape victims; they care about pushing abortions. Hiding behind this smoke screen is incredibly intellectually dishonest. If they object to the bill, they should say so, rather than pretending they’re even slightly concerned about rape culture.
The real problem is having a rape exception at all. Either you’re pro-life, or not. A woman is not a little bit pregnant. Either a child has been conceived and growing or it is not.
Roe v Wade duped the system with fake rape story. Norma McCorvey is the first to admit it. She admits that the people who used her to accomplish the ruling never questioned the holes and inconsistencies in the story.
Abortion isn’t ok if a woman is raped. It’s not therapy, it doesn’t undo the trauma, and an innocent child is killed. See the slippery slope you go down with a rape exception?
Pro-life, pro-woman, pro-child, no exceptions.
What a classic straw man argument, which just shows that she really doesn’t have an argument. What we should ask her as a follow up is this:
Are people conceived in rape not people? Are they “sub human” and therefore can easily be killed?
I want to see her answer for that, and I bet it will sound an awful lot like Heinrich Himmler.
I shut down a couple of friends on Facebook yesterday who had posted a petition from Moveon.org. Moveon was claiming that the GOP was trying to redefine rape to exclude date rape and statutory rape. I told them both that rape by definition is forcible rape. It was fun posting the language from the bill and also a legal definition of rape (which included the above). My point was if you object to the ban on funding abortion, say that. Moveon’s claim was like yelling fire in a crowded theater.
It was fun being able to completely shut them up. :)
Abortionist politicians like Wasserman Schultz should just shut up about their concern for women. These politicians support unlimited prenatal homicide and would have allowed every woman alive in America today to be killed in the unborn stage.
If you support destroying all women and all men, as they do, please just shut up about anything else.
We have to find a way to make it impossible in the future for these cruel anti-life politicians who do not value the lives and rights of the unborn to be able to win anywhere.
Well, was all prepped to make some excellent points, but 2 posts in they had all been made lol. Some days you folks here at Jill’s blog humble me. :)
Executing the baby for the crimes of its father sends a clear message to the American people about the heart of the Democrat Party.
Rape has tremendous emotional appeal and PAs will pull out this weapon every time. The only time we hear “concern” for the poor, abused, and victims of rape and incest is when abortion funding is threatened.
Has Ms.Wasserman-Schultz commented on the undercover tapes from PP? Does she plan to withdraw funding, being of course she is so concerned about rape and sexual abuse?
This Congresswoman thinks being pregnant as a result of rape is the SAME as being raped??? As far as how Republicans feel about women..
We actually CARE about them. Pushing abortion is not “caring” about women.
I can’t believe how stupid politicians could be to even include a rape exception. This is why the pro-life movement will not win by politics but by hearts. Politics are kind of helpful and so we elect pro-life people when we can, but no one’s heart is won over by a talking head. Look what happened when people pinned their hopes on Stupak; he caved, and as it turns out, for no good reason. We need to keep our eyes on the prize: Pro-life all day, every day, no exceptions.
I just wonder how many of you men that posted rape victims should not be able to terminate a pregnancy they did not sign on for, would be wiling to raise some other mans child as your own??? Just asking the question.
Margret, plenty of men raise other men’s children who are not their own. They’re called adoptive fathers.
We seem to conveniently forget that the “other man’s child” in a rape situation is also that woman’s child. Hers.
It’s interesting, too, how the father of an unborn child is not even mentioned when a woman who consented to sex considers abortion,
but the father of an unborn child who raped a woman is ALWAYS mentioned in those cases.
Margaret, and if they did or didn’t that means abortion doesn’t kill a growing human being? Yeah. Thought so. Nice straw man though.
Margret, no one’s saying women who get raped have to raise the child. Adoption is a completely viable option in those and other cases, should the mother be unable or unwilling to raise the baby herself.
Marie, exactly. And killing a child doesn’t erase the pain of rape. It simply victimizes another innocent human being.
Why should an infant human person, male or female, be murdered for the sins of his/her father, Ms.Wasserman? You Democrats think like a “Sharia” court….
Margaret,
My E-xhusband abused me in every way possible. He’d likely have killed me if I hadn’t gotten him out of the home by blackmailing him into leaving, and then later divorcing him when I got the money. I don’t want to hear you are sorry for me.
I married him. My precious 19yo daughter is the only surviving child of that awful brutal time, he left when she was 6 mo old. I had no home, no job, no money, no car, I was LITERALLY HOMELESS! Under those conditions many pro-aborts would counsel me to abort. ”For the sake of the child….”
My Sweet Daughter is the “product” of this evil man.
I am daily grateful to God for her. She is wonderful and precious and Very Much Loved!!!
Why do you think it should be permissible to have killed her just because her father was evil, evil man? because she arrived at an awful time? because she had no father who would love her, and an idiot for a mother? because she would be a burden?
Can you really look in peoples eyes and say they’d be better off massacred?
PS: My husband Gladly adopted “some other mans kid” when he adopted mine.
He is pro-life. Because he himself is adopted. Being loved causes you to love others. Pro-Life fosters pro-life. So there!
Was your ex mental?
No matter who the sperm donor is nor the circumstances surrounging conception, the pre-natal child is no more nor less the pregnant woman’s baby.
So with respect to the ‘choice’ for elective abortion a woman is choosing to kill her own child.
Later, the first time he went to prison, the psychologist said he could easily pass a lie detector test? I forget the term the guy used….
Anyway, it doesn’t matter. I chose poorly.
My child should never suffer for that.
Responsibility is ALWAYS THE BEST CHOICE!
This is so ridiculous. Yes, because pro-lifers don’t think anyone should be killed because their mother was raped and their father is a rapist, it means we actually think rape is acceptable. Give me a break.
It’s interesting, too, how the father of an unborn child is not even mentioned when a woman who consented to sex considers abortion, but the father of an unborn child who raped a woman is ALWAYS mentioned in those cases.
That is so true. It’s like fathers only have any relevance in abortion if they provide an argument for why a baby should be aborted.
Hi mama3,
A sociopath/pathological liar, they’re usually one and the same, could likely fool a lie detector.
I am happy to hear you were blessed with such a wonderful daughter.
That is so true. It’s like fathers only have any relevance in abortion if they provide an argument for why a baby should be aborted.
Bingo! Thank you for saying it better than I did!! :D
Dr. David Readon has studied post abortive women for ovver 20 years. His
book on “From victoms to victories” the women all want to keep their babies.
They have been abused once and they know that aobrtion is the ultimate
abuse and exploittion of women. They are angry to be used in this bogus
debate to give a child because of rape or incest since they want to speak
out about killing their own flesh and blood. It is far more healthy physically,
spiritually and phycalogically to go through with a pregnancy that kill ones
child.
Just had a thought: Do you think maybe the use of the term “forcible rape” is being used to guard against a woman simply claiming “rape” on her medical form (for a free abortion) at the abortion clinic, without any police report of rape ever having been filed? I’m just asking. I really don’t know, and wondered if anyone here might be able to answer that for me.
Otherwise, I don’t really understand what the use of the term “forcible” is supposed to do, unless it’s to close some sort of loophole in a situation like I mentioned above.
Kel, you might find this article interesting.
Give her a taste of her own medicine.
Just put up the planned parenthood pimp daddy videos and stick them to Debbie Wasserman Schultz: This is what Congress-hag Schultz thinks of GIRLS, and she wants your tax dollars to fund it.
Maybe I’ll practice what I preach and key that into my blog right now. :-)
Not a single person would be able to tell, from the way he treats them, which of my seven children are biologically my husband’s and which are biologically from my previous marriage which resulted in broken bones, massive abuse and thankfully, escape. And that is how we intend to keep it. He is a wonderful father to all of them… even the ones who are technically “another man’s”.
I really don’t understand the mindset of these Liberal politicians.
Do they actually believe they are being compassionate by being pro-abortion? Or, are they evil to the core?
What occurs in a person’s childhood/upbringing that one can be so callous against the unborn upon becoming an adult.
Wasserman appears to be a silver spooned, me-type. Is this too simple of an analysis? Is she so spoiled that she can wistfully and cavalierly disregard the fact that an unborn chld is obviously a full human being merely in a stage of development? I.e., do they not not see humans as an immortal spirit in a mortal body or, do they think that this life is all there is?
Hating these people gets me nowhere. I’d like to understand why they think like they do. Perhaps in doing so we can learn how to change their minds.
Regarding the issue of forcible rape.. The force can be physical, medical, coercive, psychological. There might not be the component of physical violence if the psychological coercion, or use of drugs is enough to accomplish the rape.
Jill once put up an article about huge numbers of rape claims to get medicaid to pay for abortions in Illinois.
Facebook is now full of “republicans want to redefine rape” and they’re all missing the point.
they take abortion for granted and don’t even flinch for a moment about ending an innocent human’s life. I wish politicians would never make rape exceptions for abortion, EVER.
“I just wonder how many of you men that posted rape victims should not be able to terminate a pregnancy they did not sign on for, would be wiling to raise some other mans child as your own??? Just asking the question.”
I’m not a man, but I find myself in a position where I could potentially end up HELPING to raise another woman’s children. They are the children of the man I love. They are little offshoot fireworks of him and I love them for this simple fact alone, to say nothing of the wonderful and unique little people they are on their own merits, regardless of who their parents are or how “good” or “bad” they are.
I don’t anticipate ever having children of my own, but these two boys make me okay with that, because they are little streams trickling off of this amazing river of a person I love so much, streams that will one day become rivers of their own and will go flowing and coursing throughout the world, shaping the landscape with every twist and turn they take. I want nothing more than for there to be MORE of this wonderful man in the world – not carbon-copy versions of him, little mini-me versions, but just more of the things that make him so wonderful. And here are two little boys who will carry small pieces of him out into the lives of people I will never even know.
I quite like their mother, but that is beside the point. If I had never known her – if she were a horrible person – if she were a murderer – it would not change the tiniest thing about these two boys, and how much I love them. I love them because they are themselves, and he is himself, and they are his. It would never occur to me to merely tolerate them, to view them as “some other woman’s children” that I need to put up with every so often in order to be with this guy. If I felt that way I would know that I didn’t really love him in the first place.