NYT: Planned Parenthood to “retrain staff” – that 13-year-olds may be rape victims?
First, Planned Parenthood denied any wrong-doing whatsoever after it revealed an alleged sex trafficker had shown up at the door of several of its abortion mills across the country requesting services for 14-yr-old and illegal sex slaves.
PP CEO Cecile Richards went further by claiming she had marched straight to the door of the highest law enforcement official in the land to rat on the pimp.
After Live Action released its 1st investigative video, PP said the egregious response of the “waist up” staffer was an isolated event.
Now, as each additional video further proves PPs across the country are sex trafficking havens, the New York Times reported February 7 PP says it will “retrain” its staff nationwide. The relevant quotes:
They said employees had long been trained to obey local reporting laws as well as to use common sense when confronted with evidence of the abuse of minors.
The new round of training, they said, will not involve a change in policy but a reminder about those laws. Consistent with the law, clinics in most states will continue to provide confidential treatment and contraception to girls as young as 14 without parental consent.
But it is unreasonable, federation officials said, to expect those interviewing a new patient – and who are required by law to offer confidentiality – to take action on the spot.
“We are not asking the front-line health worker or receptionist to do a legal analysis of the situation, but rather to report it when there is any hint of a risk to the welfare of a minor,” Mr. Schear said.
Not so fast. As a Live Action rep wondered, what constitutes “any hint of a risk to the welfare of a minor” in the eyes of PP? PP claims its staff has “long been trained” to “use “common sense,” but anyone really believe that anymore? Krystal from the Bronx said her clinic sees “girls as young as 13.” In what situation does the sexual activity of a 13-yr-old not constitute a “hint of a risk to [her] welfare”?
My testimony before the FDA in 2003 against over-the-counter access to the morning-after pill was specifically on the point of minor sex abuse. At that time I submitted PP’s own words showing it knows before adolescent girls come in the door they are likely sex abuse victims. Here are 2 powerpoint slides I presented 8 years ago (click to enlarge):
In fact, PP should be reporting the name of every adolescent girl who comes to one of its clinics for “reproductive healthcare.” The mere fact they are requesting abortions, STD testing or treatments, and/or contraception is a sign they are likely victims of sexual abuse, according to PP’s own research.
At any rate, what kind of organization hires employees who have to be repeatedly trained and retrained to show concern when presented with unambiguous evidence that children are being raped and prostituted?
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I do not think we can “reform” Planned Parenthood. It is a fundamentally immoral and inhuman organization because it’s primary purpose is to kill people.
The problem, as I see it, the legal system is complicit in this abuse. If they’ve been issuing judicial by-passes (as they are supposed to legally) then there should be a huge record of what has happened.
My guess – the records are destroyed because there are minors involved.
For all practical purposes, the judiciary are in bed with PPA, and so the young victims of sex trafficking are being victimized once more by a legal system that looks the other way.
Consider – what kind of court system would issue judicial bypasses and not look into why there are so many being requested? This really does need investigation.
I’m completely repelled by Planned Parenthood on so many levels. I’ve done a bit of research on their website and found a few interesting things than convinces me more and more that we need to fight tooth and nail to defund them. I hate thinking that my tax dollars are supporting their activities. Read here if you’re interested:
http://acts17verse28.blogspot.com/2011/02/planned-parenthood-more-problems.html
I would love to know who “the pimp” was. That’s an Oscar-winning performance right there.
The government, especially in a place like New York, is totally on the side of the abortionists. This is one of the problems.
Dysfunctional and immoral organizations like Planned Parenthood are allowed to operate because the government itself is immoral. The state government under Andrew Cuomo will pay to kill over 100,000 unborn children in the next four years. So, in New York the inhumanity is completely a part of the system.
Bet planned parenthood has the pics of the pimp and prostitute actor and actress up on the walls of their clinics like ‘wanted’ posters.
Those two did a great job, and Cecile Richards must be hating them 24/7.
Wishing the undercover agents success in their future endeavors.
So Cecile herself went to the office of the highest law enforcement official in the land to rat on a “pimp”, who is non-existent. And what did Superman say when you told him Cecile?
Well, that is certainly a load off my shoulders.
Cecile this bit of drama wasn’t necessary. Your employee only needed to pick up a phone and call police the minute the perps left their facilities. You wouldn’t be standing before the American public today wiping a huge ostrich egg off your face.
Yo – Stuart Schear – instead of retraining your staff, why don’t you simply start a Planned Pimphood program that “streamlines” the whole process and makes more efficient use of the taxpayer funds Planned Parenthood receives? You could get a bigger salary….and be a hero.
You can pre-qualify the pimps, get them certified and up to speed, have them regularly run their girls through for medical tests. Think about it – lower fees, more specials etc. You’d be completely WTF!!!
(umm…that’s… “Winning the Future”, Stuart.)
Given your newly constructed super abortion mills, couldn’t you just stage full oversight operations and do some full training of everyone? Then you wouldn’t need to deal with these pesky undercover videos.
Empower them
litte girlswomen at an earlier stage. In fact, you could cut back on your other advertising and let the pimps do the promotions for you. Come now – you have a fiduciary responsibility to the taxpayers to make the best of the funds you’ve received.The focus on STD/STI services is a bold new direction. By keeping the girls healthy, you keep the pimps and yourself profitable.
And the johns happy, STD free and sexually satisfied.
Only one question Stuart – at what point will PPA encourage the breeding of sex slaves?
I’m not quite sure how you’ll be able to spin that one – but I know you’ll find a way – you always do!
Actually, Mary, the call should have been made while the perp was still sitting in the chair. All the employees had to do was say, “Wait right here while I get a brochure for you.”
Then go to the next room, pick up the phone, and fulfill her legal obligation.
Retrain the staff? Really???
That’s the problem with PP. They think human decency is a policy memorandum. You can put lipstick and a dress on a pig, but that doesn’t make it a lady. Just look at Cecile Richards.
Jill, please remind everyone that in 2002, Life Dynamics did their undercover investigation of 800 NAF and Planned Parenthood clinics who coached minors how to skirt mandatory reporting laws…why didn’t the training from then stick???? Listen to the undercover investigation here http://www.childpredators.com
Hi Carder 8:27am
A good point but I tend to err on the side of caution. People who think you are on to them or that you may have called the police can become dangerous and you never know how they will react. You may not be in the presence of an altogether mentally stable person.
That’s me channeling my policeman brother!
Always good to see you here Carder.
They said employees had long been trained to obey local reporting laws as well as to use common sense when confronted with evidence of the abuse of minors.
Seriously? I would love to see evidence where they have reported ANY abuse suspicions to local authorities when it comes to treating minors. Are theere any records of this anywhere in the USA Anywhere? The loophole here is that they want their clinic employees to “use common sense”
Is it common sense to be giving a pimp advice on judicial by-pass for minor age sex workers for abortion? Is it common sense to give a pimp advice on “waist up” sex while healing from abortion?
This organization defies common sense.
“After Live Action released its 1st investigative video, PP said the egregious response of the “waist up” staffer was an isolated event.”
I encourage everyone to view the PP Exposed webcast and watch the testimony of Abby Johnson who says this is false. She states that PP is a safe haven for abusers and PP will do anything to encourage abortions to meet their quotas.
Like I said in an earlier post, these PP employees seem way too comfortable having these types of conversations and using catch phrases and buzz words to have this NOt be an isolated incident. I am sure they all have stars in their eyes thinking of all the revenue this pimp could be bringing into their clinic. He is their new big client they want to keep happy and coming back for more. They use the very old but effective sales technique of “mirror matching”. They align themselves with the pimp to make him think they are just like him by making it known to the pimp they are willing to skirt the law to put themselves on the same seedy law breaking level as a pimp. This way they gain the pimp’s trust.
The good thing is that the public furor is growing. People I know who never gave a rat’s behind about abortion or PP are suddenly up in arms, irate and demanding that PP never receive another federal (or truthfully, OUR) dime!
I think Planned Parenthood will continue to receive subsidies, compliments of everyone here and your hard earned dollars, thank you so very much.
The Senate is controlled by the Democrats, who have become a wholly owned subsidiary of the abortionists. Witness anti-life “Senators” Kirsten Gillibrand (New York!!) and Richard Blumenthal (Connecticut) who told Emily’s List supporters that they will fight the good fight for child killing in the Senate and to make sure PP keeps getting everyone’s money. If that isn’t moral leadership, I don’t know what is.
Until a lot of these Democratic politicians are (hopefully) thrown out in 2012, and Barack Obama evicted from the White House, I think PP’s gravy train will unfortunately continue.
I heard that Live action was to release another video today – did anyone see one?
I hope the average person will start to realize that PP is not in anyone’s best interest on practically any level. How they got away with what they do for so long boggles my mind! I hope we can defund them and get them out of the abortion/sex business.
Enough is enough. Everyone deserves better!
From the NYT article:“We’re doing this to reassure the public that we take these reporting requirements seriously,” Mr. Schear said.
How about doing it for the victims instead of public perception?
But it is unreasonable, federation officials said, to expect those interviewing a new patient – and who are required by law to offer confidentiality – to take action on the spot.
Perhaps they consider it “unreasonable,” but immediate reporting is the law and there are LIMITS to confidentiality. Can you imagine if a pediatrician’s office or the ER of a children’s hospital pulled this crap and said it is unreasonable to report promptly because of confidentiality?
Also keep in mind that the anti-crisis pregnancy center bill in New York contains extremely strict confidentiality provisions that would actually PREVENT centers from reporting minor abuse (unless the scared young victim gives written consent, i.e. informs on her abuser). Behind this law – NARAL, and no doubt, Planned Parenthood. Coincidence?
PP’s “retraining” is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The whole organization is rotten to the core, as its whole mission is to advance the Culture of Death.
Dr. Nadal wrote:
That’s the problem with PP. They think human decency is a policy memorandum.
:) You have *seriously* got to coach me in that sort of amazing efficiency and clarity in word usage…! How much do you charge per hour?
Honestly: does anyone need any further information to prove that PP (and other abortuary-management organizations) are used to having a “free pass” from the mainstream media and governmental oversight?
The mere fact they are requesting abortions, STD testing or treatments, and/or contraception is a sign they are likely victims of sexual abuse, according to PP’s own research.
I’m not seeing that, according to PP’s research or otherwise. Most teenage girls having sex are doing so with someone within their own age range. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think minors should be put on any medication or undergoing any sort of medical treatment or procedures without their parents’ knowledge, but adolescents being sexually active indicates that they’re likely victims of sexual abuse? Really? Possible victims of sexual abuse, yeah, but likely victims of sexual abuse?
Lori, thanks for that info. The version I read states that disclosure can be made if “required by operation of law.” Does this mean that volunteer reporting (for unlicensed staff) and mandated reporting (for licensed staff) as addressed in state law is legally suspended for CPCs in NYC if it passes? What would suspending that part of state law mean? That reporting isn’t required or that it is illegal?
Hi Alice.
“You people use “the babies” to draw attention to the fact that you really have a problem with sex outside of marriage. …You’d like to have a country where especially women have to wear the scarlet A, don’t you?”
Yes and yes. Because I am against sex outside of marriage and want all women to wear the scarlet A, how does it follow that abortion does not unjustly take the life of a human being? In other words, how does the fact that I am a misogynist woman hater refute any argument that I make against abortion?
Marauder, read the slides I included in my post… out of PP’s own mouth…
Alice says:
February 9, 2011 at 11:52 am
Whine, whine, whine. You people use “the babies” to draw attention to the fact that you really have a problem with sex outside of marriage. Can’t stop that, can you? You’d like to have a country where especially women have to wear the scarlet A, don’t you?
Alice,
The in-uteral babies ARE victims here. They are pre-out-of-the-womb human beings. I don’t see how an in-uteral human is less of a human being than one who is out of the womb. Both are from the same species. Both are developing into what they will be as time goes on. (I believe adults keep developing themselves in different ways: whether it’s opinions, beliefs, education, exercise, etc.).
Women are victims, here, too. They’re told “Oh abortion is totally natural.” They’re told “Abortion is safe.” Yet, women die from abortions (even legal abortions). There’s women who suffer mentally, physically, psychologically, spiritually from abortions. (A woman once told me she wouldn’t wish what she went through on her worst enemy). Others on here have talked about their experiences with abortions–the majority of those experiences haven’t been what PP has promised abortion to be.
Abby Johnson, a former PP director has declared more than once that PP’s agenda IS MORE abortions. (I’ve heard her speak in person and I’ve talked to her face to face).
Former abortionists have come forward talking about what is the reality of abortion.
Men are victims when it comes to abortion. They’re fed the line that it’s the woman’s body and they need to shut up. I know a man who suffered greatly after a girl he dated had an abortion. He blamed himself for the entire thing, even though the sex as CONSENUAL. He had visions of his child and cried when he told me about it (and this is a man who doesn’t cry very much OR easily). I heard a talk by a man who said he was wrong to be fine with abortion (I talked to him face to face as well).
Teens are victims of abortion, too. They’re fed the line of “not to worry” and “it’ll be just fine.” When having an abortion. Yet, there are those who suffer greatly after an abortion.
It wouldn’t hurt society to practice abstaince and chastity before marriage (and chastity within marriage). Less premarital pregnancies could mean a drop in abortion, however, that doesn’t change the fact that all these people (and groups of people) are victims who were hurt by abortion.
We’re not whining–we’re angry and hurt! We’re tired of seeing others suffer because of abortion. We don’t like it. So excuse us for doing something about it–we don’t want anyone else to suffer from this horrible thing called abortion.
Just because YOU’RE fine with it, doesn’t mean it is fine. It’s NOT fine.
And no, nobody’s suggested ANYONE wear a scarlet “A” on their clothing. Get out of high school English Class (I read “The Scarlet Letter” Junior Year of High School, which was over a decade ago). Look around you. These pro-life people on here care deeply about the human race. We’re just waiting for you pro-choicers to wake up and stop hiding behind “choice helps women” when we know the truth that in reality and the long run it really doesn’t.
LifeNews is reporting that Lila Rose has accused PP of 6 deceptions in responding to the scandal.
http://www.lifenews.com
Alice, Alice, Alice, why do you make me add another $5 to my contribution to LiveAction? Sigh. Now I have to write real small on the memo line of the check to fit “from Megan the Pro-choice Commenter and from Alice the Whiner.” Sigh. LiveAction hates to get more donations, but I guess they’ll just have to endure.
Agreed Carder et al, the pimp was great, deserves an oscar.
Alice,
I can’t top Bobby’s efficiency in answer, but: are you serious in your accusation (that pro-lifers’ hatred of abortion is only a “front” for their “real” hatred of extramarital sex), or are you just saying something absurd to try to be inflammatory, and provoke people?
Alice,
Am I to assume you have no issue with PP aiding and abetting what could possibly be the prostituting of minor girls?
They always say we just hate women, want to control them and oppose sex. It is never about protecting unborn children. Our opponents seem to have an obsession with believing this.
Paladin, I think it’s pretty clear that “Alice” is being provocative. When people say something that absurd and irrelevant to the discussion at hand, that’s pretty much all it CAN be.
Given that “Alice” seems to have chosen to beat a hasty retreat, I’m inclined to agree! (*sigh*) Another incendiary-grenade-lobber troll, I see…
Yep, “Alice” (not the usual pro-life Alice) has posted here a few times under multiple monikers with anti-Catholic and other various inflammatory comments. This most recent one can go bye-bye along with the others. :D
Let’s see. Planned Parenthood did nothing wrong but it will retrain its staff so as not to do it again. I got it now,
Never mind!
Rod Murphy says: February 9, 2011 at 2:51 pm
“Let’s see. Planned Parenthood did nothing wrong but it will retrain its staff so as not to do it again.”
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Reminiscent of fomer madam of the house Nancy Pelosi nervously trying to remember what she did NOT know and when she did NOT it.
Paladin says: February 9, 2011 at 11:24 am
“You have *seriously* got to coach me in that sort of amazing efficiency and clarity in word usage…! How much do you charge per hour?”
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Gerard would certainly be a good coach in the ‘brevity’ department, but I have never seen anyone to compare with ‘hal’ when comes in not wasting words.
I did read the slides; I’m seeing where it says that 6.7% of girls were having sex with someone six years or more older than they were, and that a lot of teenage mothers got pregnant from sex with someone older and that the girls having sex with older guys were less likely to use contraception. That doesn’t pertain to girls coming in for contraception – who, according to this, would probably be more likely to be having sex with a guy around their own age. They’re saying the rates of pregnancy and STDs were higher for girls having sex with older men, but they don’t compare the number of those girls with the number of girls who are having sex with younger guys. If 6.7% of girls 15 to 17 (I’m assuming this is sexually active girls) are having sex with older men, that means the vast majority are having sex with guys their own age.
ok – so is 6.7% just the right amount of girls to not immediately report statutory rape to the authorities? How much of a percent is needed before reporting incest? Since PP looks the other way (I’ve personally talked to 2 14 year olds who came in for abortions – and countless others of 15-16 year olds also).
At what level would you want protection for any of them? And at what level would you want protection of any baby in the womb being brought for slaughter?
Just curious.
I graduated from a high school that had approximately 500 students per class (500 seniors, 500 juniors, etc.). 6.7% = about 33 girls per class, and in our building that would equal 99 girls, most under the age of 18. Combine that with the other schools in the same district, including the junior high and middle schools, and the numbers start climbing! Would you be happy with 200 – 300 ABUSED GIRLS IN ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT??? WTF, people?! Even if only a small number of girls in the district were sexually active, the numbers will still go very high. Even a dozen abused girls in one school district is a dozen too many. One girl abused is ONE TOO MANY!
Young girls are not able to spar verbally or physically with a 27 or 30 year old man. He has an advantage by both size and intellect combined with previous experience ‘grooming’ victims. Really, Marauder, what would it take for you to be concerned?
Continuous training is part of every job. Every single one of my jobs involved managers reminded employees of the rules, standards and goals of the company. If Planned Parenthood didn’t offer retraining, then I’d be worried.
Forgive me if this has been mentioned already, I haven’t had a chance to read every comment yet. Chris A., I agree that the legal community has dropped the ball on regulating abortion. (Look at the State of Illinois - their Atty. General has yet to implement the parental notification law passed AGES ago, for one example.)
Since the “right to privacy” is the constitutional basis for legal abortion, why should people expect an abortion provider to be upfront about what goes on behind closed doors? Killing babies is a private matter of choice, their specialty….. so is contraception distribution, sex-trafficking, prostitution, pornography, and underage sex. (Not that they are all on the same level….) How can the Democrats support this industry??? (That’s rhetorical, no need to answer.)
Sorry – that came out a bit snarky!
We just want EVERY girl/woman to be ok – underage girls, women being abused, females in the womb. (and guys – we care about you too!)
Ninek – another gem!
Alice, I’m a pro-life liberal (pro-gay marriage, pro-birth control, non-religious), and was, at one point, rather slutty myself. I have no problem with sex outside of marriage. I DO have a problem with people killing their babies and the abortion industry making money off of that killing.
May the public see the scandals in PP and the Gosnell clinic, and may they see that the efforts at damage control are all lies. May Planned Parenthood fall into the dirt. May everybody see they’re not the benign organizaton that we’ve all been led to believe.
Continuous training is part of every job. Every single one of my jobs involved managers reminded employees of the rules, standards and goals of the company. If Planned Parenthood didn’t offer retraining, then I’d be worried.
LOL!! On what planet do we live that we need to “retrain” people to know that sex trafficking of minors is… um… unacceptable?? Maybe PP needs to offer competency testing as well.
Paladin,
The secret to brevity comes from raising children (who have varying degrees of my ADD). They have zero attention span, so short, pithy statements/directions are the order of the day. Plus, I hated long-winded professors who took two hours to essentially say, “If you mix those two chemicals, just tell me what kind of flowers to send your widow.”
No charge ever for brevity lessons, your excellent comments leave me in your debt. :-)
Ken,
I agree. Hal is the maestro.
KushielsMoon said : If Planned Parenthood didn’t offer retraining, then I’d be worried.
You know I was getting worried that you might not get worried about anything.
It’s good to see you have a conscience about something… no matter how microscopic it might be!
Alice,
I don’t have a problem with sex outside of marriage because I have all of mine within the protective and life-giving environs of marriage.
The problem that I have with PP is that they are lying, manipulative scum who suck the souls out of women along with their babies. Further, they don’t share the CDC’s truth about condoms and STD’s with the people who turn to them expecting the truth:
http://gerardnadal.com/2010/02/09/planned-parenthood-in-new-initiative-targets-10-year-old-children-with-condoms-that-dont-work/
http://gerardnadal.com/2010/02/10/the-destruction-of-innocents/
Don’t worry, Alice. I don’t expect you to actually read the links. You’re just as committed to scientific truth as PP, which is to say, not at all.
Get well soon.
Fellow Pro-lifers:
I’ve written an article detailing the CDC data on the transmissibility of STD’s through “Waist UP” activity, if you need some talking points:
http://gerardnadal.com/2011/02/04/planned-parenthood-and-the-stds-of-waist-up/
God Bless.
Alice claims:
You’d like to have a country where especially women have to wear the scarlet A, don’t you?
It is due precisely to the abortion mentality (declining birthrates) in Europe, and to a lesser extent in the U.S., that Muslims are making their biggest inroads into western culture. The revulsion towards sexual immorality among Muslims will not so much as have women wearing the scarlet A as it will result in them wearing burkas should they come to power. Open your eyes and look what is happening to the radicalization of Muslim countries and do not pretend that it will not start happening in the post-Christian west.
“Lori, thanks for that info. The version I read states that disclosure can be made if “required by operation of law.” Does this mean that volunteer reporting (for unlicensed staff) and mandated reporting (for licensed staff) as addressed in state law is legally suspended for CPCs in NYC if it passes? What would suspending that part of state law mean? That reporting isn’t required or that it is illegal?”
Hi Fed Up,
I can’t say for sure about how it is affected by state laws, since I haven’t read the laws in question, only an analysis of the new bill. (Can’t remember exactly where now. Gotta stop reading on the internet so much – everything is starting to blur together!) I do remember though, that the provision doesn’t apply to girls tweve and under; then it must always be reported, I think. Maybe Gerard Nadal or Chris Slattery can help you with the question.
I’m dead tired — been absent all day recording final narration for my documentary. The end is in sight! My apologies for not responding before this.
ninek: “Really, Marauder, what would it take for you to be concerned?”
Me, a few posts before ninek: “Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think minors should be put on any medication or undergoing any sort of medical treatment or procedures without their parents’ knowledge.”
All I said was that I didn’t see where the data suggested that girls coming into Planned Parenthood were likely victims of sexual abuse. I’m not discounting the sexual abuse that many young girls suffer or saying that Planned Parenthood should just go on their merry way treating (or “treating”) teenagers without their parents’ knowledge. To me, “likely” means that the odds are pretty high. If somewhere between six and seven percent of teenage girls are having sex with older men, that means the odds are that the vast majority are not having sex with older men. If, say, six percent of people complaining of stomach aches turned out to have undiagnosed stomach cancer, we wouldn’t say that the average person with a stomach ache was “likely” to have cancer.
I don’t think it’s in the best interests of the pro-life movement to misread statistics and claim they indicate something that they don’t. It just gives people an excuse to say that we’re wrong about things we’re right about. Maybe we have different definitions of “likely.” I don’t know.
I am a very verbal person and I write a lot. If I say something, I mean it, and if I don’t say something, I don’t think it’s fair to assume that I meant something I didn’t say.
So there doing a lot of very wrong things. They basically have the media in their pocket. And along with the media the judicial system is for the most part looking the other way. So they have friends in the media, friends in the judicial system and they get to make lots of money killing babies. Oh and they like to throw lavish get togethors. If I were a betting woman I would guess that a lot of people in the media are starting to get a little sick of being sick. I’m praying that there is a little house arranging in the house of media and they start really doing there job.