(Prolifer)ations 5-27-11
by Susie Allen, host of the blog, Pro-Life in TN and Kelli
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- ProLifeBlogs highlights a post from Pundit and Pundette revealing UK doctors now prescribe water for their elderly patients to assure that hospital staff tends to patients’ basic nutritional needs. The disregard for life in some hospital wards is so severe, they may be forced to close.
- Mary Meets Dolly discusses society’s “dangerous precedent to value human lives less than that of others in the animal kingdom.” Nazi Germany was known for this, as well.
- MN Citizens Concerned for Life responds to the pro-choice argument that pro-lifers are trying to “legislate morality” regarding abortion.
- Live Action hosts an interview with 2 former Girl Scouts who have launched their own website to expose the organization’s alliance with Planned Parenthood:
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Oh, that SlutWalk article is making me so very, very angry. I don’t care if a woman is walking down a dark alley at 2:30 AM wearing nothing but Godiva hair and a fig leaf, she is not asking to be raped! Period. If someone leaves the door to their house unlocked and they are robbed, whose fault is that? The robber’s! If a woman is dressed revealingly and she is raped, whose fault is it? The rapist’s! No equivocations, no “well, but…”s, no further addendums. At all.
Congrats to Andrew Haines for singlehandedly turning me off of Ethika Politika, I suppose.
Alice, I have to agree with you. And while I do believe dressing a certain way can send a message of “sexually available,” I do not believe it sends the message of “please violate me sexually against my will.” Not on any planet.
Planned Parenthood is a good, decent organization that prevents far more unwanted pregnancies than it terminates.
Mike,
One abortion is one too many.
That serial killer they caught last week was a respectable guy; all his neighbors said he babysat for the kids in the neighborhood. Does that exonerate him for his crimes? (Oh, I know that abortion is legal, but it IS sinful too, therefore immoral.)
PP doesn’t prevent pregnancies. Abstinence is the only true protector.
Contracepting fails. What a moneymaker for the abortion industry! Fool the ladies, rake in the cash.
Why do you think so poorly of women that you think they either have to be celibate or “fooled” by contraception?
Women should have the right to the same body autonomy as men, end of story.
The idea that women stay abstinent simply to avoid unwanted pregnancy is unbelievably out of touch with reality.
@mike: There’s whole galaxies (and more) of difference between “I am looking to hook up.” (something people do dress with the intention of communicating) and “Please, rape me!” (something no one ever communicates at all). Don’t pretend like Kel’s post was somehow blurring the lines between them when it obviously wasn’t.
My girlfriend dresses however she wants, and none of her clothing “says” anything other than “this is what i’m wearing”
Mike, I’m pretty sure I said the exact opposite. “Sexually available” does not make the assumption that a woman wants to be violated against her will.
planned parenthood hates children and that’s why they promote abortion over adoption or parenting. and when contraception fails, which they WANT IT TO, they gladly “take care of it” for the woman.
They are NOT A GOOD ORGANIZATION! They were founded by a racist woman who hated large families, the poor, the disabled and minorities.
Liz – You are raving and you know nothing about Planned Parenthood or you would not say such uninformed comments.
Planned Parenthood hates children – No they in fact love children and they have games and coloring books for children to play with while mom is getting her pap test done.
They promote abortion over adoption and parenting – No they offer abortion services and referrals to parenting classes and adoption agencies. You see at PP they offer women ALL OPTIONS! Every single option plus follow up support.
When contraception fails, which they WANT IT TO, they gladly “take care of it” for the woman. – The biggest thing PP does and receives federal funding for is disease prevention and treatment. PP has no interest in contraception failing as they make ZERO DOLLARS FROM ABORTIONS and the spread of disease is against all of our interests.
They were founded by a racist woman who hated large families, the poor, the disabled and minorities. – So was Disney, the entire country was awash with racism and the dreaded illegal immigrants back then were the Irish. I am not going to try to justify the racist feelings of a woman who live a hundred years ago just like I never tried to justify the racist stuff my grandfather used to spit at people. He came from a different time when racism was not just accepted, it was the norm. My father knew he was wrong as do I and my child but we never tried to change grandpa.
They are NOT A GOOD ORGANIZATION! – Yes they are. They are a good organization who happens to provide a medical procedure that you do not agree with but that does not make them evil. Just ask the thousands of women who they have helped. Their opinions and voices cannot be discounted just because you do not agree with them.
Mike–I’ve spoken to guys and they’ve told me what women wear DOES send out messages aside from just “this is what I’m wearing”. My husband said he liked the fact when we got together that I was a modest dresser because he didn’t want “the whole story right away, but to discover it when the right time came.”
I find it hard to believe you think contraception offers women “bodily autonomy” (what does that even mean??? To me it sounds like someone being automonous from their body and how do you do that? It makes NO sense to me. The reproductive system is a part of the body, a person who has it can’t be without it unless they get it surgically removed). Do you know what contraceptives can DO to women? Blood clots, raising chances of heart attacks, just to name a couple of side effects. A couple I know told me that when the woman went off the birth control pill her emotional health IMPROVED–so apparently it was messing with her emotions, which are often triggered by hormones. A good chunk of contraceptives out there are engineered with artificial hormones that do NOT work WITH the body, but rather ONLY do what they are engineered to do, whereas NATURAL hormones work WITH the body. Contraception doesn’t offer women “bodily automony” just puts them at risk for more health issues. Why would you want that for women?
Biggz–PP provides abortion, which is one of the things that makes them a bad organization. Get those “thousands of women” who go to Planned Parenthood to tell us they do NOT go to Planned Parenthood for an abortion, but for pap smears/adoption referrals. I challenge you to do that. Because as far as I’ve heard and seen, abortion is the MAIN reason a person goes there, and sometimes the ONLY reason.
I think most people take “bodily autonomy” to mean that only they have the right to decide what happens to and with their own body.
Reality says:
May 27, 2011 at 9:30 pm
I think most people take “bodily autonomy” to mean that only they have the right to decide what happens to and with their own body.
Yeah, I know. I should’ve said was that the phrase sounds weird because of what it makes me think of, which is, it makes me think of a person trying to separate himself or herself from her body, in which case it wouldn’t make sense. (anyway, just my mind going in all different directions at one time).
@Mother in Texas I’m surprised at how many here actually respect a woman’s choices to wear whatever she wants without expecting men to receive “a message.” Reaffirming that we live in America, not Saudi Arabia for G-d’s sake. Any “message” men “see” in women’s dress is about the man, not the woman he’s looking at. I once had a man tell me what he thought women were telling him with their clothes when they visited the library we both worked in. I asked him how in the h*%# did he know she had any such thought when she got dressed that morning? We don’t look at our own bodies the same way men do!! These crazy attitudes some men have about women allow some to send themselves whatever messages they want to believe.! And lo and behold, rape is a crime that rarely gets prosecuted. Why? Because people very often think that women sent the wrong message…
Planned Parenthood makes no money from abortions?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Thanks for the laugh. Have you ever seen their end-of-year financial statements/disclosures?
Planned Parenthood “health center” income: $404,900,000
They claim abortion to be 3% of the services they perform. 3% of $404.9 million is $12,147,000. That’s a whole lot of “nothing” they’re making from abortion.
Just sayin’.
Reference: the most recent Planned Parenthood yearly report (2008-2009) pages 6 and 29.
The wildly inaccurate 3% figure doesn’t take into account the cost of abortion. An abortion is far more lucrative than a condom or an STD test. It’s been widely reported, even my MSM that PP made over $330,000,000 just *last year* alone. In fact during all the budget talks it was a big point that PP received almost the same amount of government funding as they made doing abortions. Biggz, PP makes millions upon millions doing abortion, it’s their life’s blood (pun intended) and without abortion revenue they would have to shut down. In fact that is exactly what happens. When abortion business falls off PP shuts down the facility. Yes, there are *some* PP who don’t directly do abortions, but not for long. PP has made it a requirement of being a member to do abortions (I’m pretty sure Jill blogged about that a while back, but it’s not some big secret, several news outlets reported it).
Urban Pink says:
May 28, 2011 at 2:54 am
@Mother in Texas I’m surprised at how many here actually respect a woman’s choices to wear whatever she wants without expecting men to receive “a message.” Reaffirming that we live in America, not Saudi Arabia for G-d’s sake.
Yes, but we still have a responsbility to promote chastity (purity) within ourselves and others. How we dress CAN have a direct effect on that.
Any “message” men “see” in women’s dress is about the man, not the woman he’s looking at.
Actually, it’s not just men. I know women who have looked at other women the way they were dressed and wondered why the were dress in such skimpy clothes. People have this “self entitlement” ideas that they can do whatever the heck they want and it doesn’t affect anyone which is simply not true. I don’t know how many women and men I have talked to who have all agreed that men and women can still look attractive, dress comfortably/fun without being in very skimpy clothing.
Plus, you can’t tell me that you don’t get an impression from men you see based on how they’re dressed, that doesn’t make any sense, because first impression is often what we SEE before we know the person. There’s plenty of guys who I look at and can get an IDEA of what they’re personalities are like just based on how they’re dressed and the way they carry themselves. I’m sure you do, too, whether subconsciously or consciously. It’s human nature.
I once had a man tell me what he thought women were telling him with their clothes when they visited the library we both worked in. I asked him how in the h*%# did he know she had any such thought when she got dressed that morning?
How do you know the woman didn’t? I know women who have the idea “if you got it flaunt it” and have no thoughts to how other people feel and they don’t care. I know men who don’t want “the whole story” when they look at a woman (my husband being one of them). It’s a matter of demanding respect by the way a woman dresses and carries herself. In the number of men I’ve talked to over the years about this very subject more often than not I hear a man say he respects women who dress more modestly than women who dress in more skimpy outfits.
And there’s PLENTY of really great clothing out there that IS modest. You don’t have to wear a bag or a burka to dress attractively and still be modest–there’s a lot of very pretty/nice/attractive modest clothing out there (I know because I own some of it and I’ve seen it in more than one store).
We don’t look at our own bodies the same way men do!! These crazy attitudes some men have about women allow some to send themselves whatever messages they want to believe.! And lo and behold, rape is a crime that rarely gets prosecuted. Why? Because people very often think that women sent the wrong message…
I’m not saying women are asking to be raped. I never ever said that. In fact, I don’t believe it. But I do believe women do send out a message with the way they dress and the way they act. (I know because I’ve seen it)
It’s not “crazy ideas”, it’s how they’re wired. As you pointed out (in a way), men and women do see each other differently than the man or woman might see themselves. But it doesn’t change the fact the way a person is dressed can and does have an effect on how they are viewed. I’m not saying it’s always accurate, but I am saying it’s how many people are.
Furthermore, dressing modestly gets such a bad rap. People think that it means you have to wear a burka or something. That isn’t the case. Women can dress very nicely/pretty/attractive and comfortably wearing clothes readily available in a lot of stores. Shoot, KMart, Wal-Mart, JC Penney’s, Macy’s, Dillard’s, Sears, Chadwicks, all have plenty of attractive clothing that is modest. There’s many resources available to women today to dress modestly and attractively. Nobody says you can’t be attractive in modest clothing. It’s not like I said a woman had to wear a potato sack–far from it.
Teo issues:
Has no one here heard that a person dresses a certain way to “express” themselves? How you choose to dress, what you speak and the manner you use say A LOT about you. What you choose to buy and put on your body gives others insights into your values and priorities. Just as you body language, word choice and choice of actions speak volumes, so does your choice in attire.
Or as Christ put it, you shall know them by their fruit.
Second:
No woman asks to be raped, rape is by definition non consensual, but there is nothing wrong with telling woman to be smart as there are bad people out there who will to hurt you. I lock my doors, should I have to, not in an ideal world where everyone respect and loves each other, but the word we live in is sinful and fallen. I choose out of conviction to dress modestly, but even if I did not, I would be smart enough to not dress sensually in an environment I could not control where there may be those out to hurt someone.
Biggz
If you’ve attempted to research Margaret Sanger, planned parenthood is her baby, your opinion will be more accurate. When I first started researching her I thought poor thing then I started reading her views on eugenics. So I just read your entire posts and now you’ve done a little research and know more about her views. Comparing Ms. Sanger to other racists is a good argument but you need to keep reading what planned parenthood advocates for and make up in your on mind if their agenda remains the same in the year 2011 as it did when she founded it. Don’t listen to what pro-lifers say if you really think planned parenthood is good. Think of Ms. Sanger as a strategist look at what is being presently implented in their organization and see if you see any similarities between what she wanted and what is presently being done. Think of it this way suppose you knew someone who was expecting and was struggling and then watched as this person walked up to someone she didn’t know and that person told that individual, ” Oh dear I really want whats best for you can I help you to kill your baby”. Of course if your brain were functioning properly you would see the hypocrisy in that statement. And if your really searching for truth keep researching and then make up your own mind. And when your researching remember this when a man tells a woman she has no value she often knows better but when a woman tells a woman or women she has no value sometimes she believes the lie. There are a lot of women hurting in our country and probably don’t have a clue there being targeted because of their economic status.