Pro-lifers crash abortion Christmas party
For the second year in a row pro-lifers crashed an abortion group’s annual Christmas fundraising event. No justice, no peace.
On December 12, pro-life activists from Randall Terry’s group Insurrecta Nex disrupted DC Abortion Fund’s “Peace, Joy, and Choice Winter Holiday Party” being held at One Lounge, an upscale bar in Washington, D.C.
This year, rather than simply barging in “and getting thrown out pretty fast,” the pro-life team – David, Ed, Gary, and Joan – paid an entry fee at the door with a precanceled check, mingled a bit while working their way to the back of the room farthest from the exit to prolong their impact, and then began shouting. Here’s video…
Pro-abortion partiers threw the four out, who then moved to the front sidewalk and began displaying graphic abortion signs to incoming and outgoing revelers.
Police were called, but after warning the pro-lifers not to try to go back inside and not to block the sidewalk, they left (after also forcing the pro-lifers to delete video with them in it, wrong but “not a hill we wanted to die on,” wrote David).
At 1:25 on the video you can barely see Gary tossing bloody plastic babies on the floor, leaving behind silent reminders of what DCAF supporters fund for revelers to pick up.
DCAF “great” auction items included a “plush ovary” and an “awesome coat hangar pendant.”
DCAF’s newly released annual report indicates that in FY2011 it subsidized 127 first trimester abortions, 388 second trimester abortions, and for the first time, 48 “later term… 24 wks+” abortions. This was because “in Maryland, with Dr. LeRoy Carhart providing advanced abortion care, our fund has taken on even more responsibility to help women in dire circumstances be seen by a provider.”
In all, DCAF helped pay to kill 515 babies in FY11. Cost of the abortions ranged from $160 to $8,500, according to the report.
According to Guttmacher, 28% of all pregnancies end in abortion in D.C. It has the 4th highest rate of abortion in the US.
According to the 2010 census, the “D.C. black population still shrinking.” Reported the Washington Post:
About 54% of the city is African American and 40% is white, the census figures show. At the beginning of the decade, the city was 61% black and 34% white.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I just wonder what kind of abortion you can buy for 8,500.
God bless these wonderful people for defending life.
The pro-aborts always accuse us of reducing women to their basic parts “You just want women to be walking uteruses to gestate fetuses!” And yet WE’RE not the ones who sell plush ovaries and put uteruses on belt buckles. Just sayin!
Obviously I am pro-life and think what the pro-aborts are doing to Christmas by having this rediculous lie-fest is wrong…
But those who crashed it were not good examples of pro-lifers.
What they did wasn’t just immoral, but obviously illegal.
Shady.
Keep behaving like terrorists and you’ll be treated accordingly :)
No justice. No peace.
I agree, their methods weren’t kosher.
Coat hanger necklaces? Why not make real ones?
I do NOT like Randall Terry’s groups tactics. It would have been better to just protest peacefully. Its these kind of protests that make peaceful prayerful ProLife people look bad and crazy. :|
OK, so I get what they are doing and why. However, do you really think they changed any hearts that night? If anything they pushed the pro-abortion side further away. Im pretty Abby Johnson didnt get converted by a display like that. Their hearts are in the right place but they are becoming sterotypes.
Do you think they changed any hearts that night?
Music, I don’t think they intended to change any hearts. What they got is a chance to have their say/ Sometimes that is just as important.
“Advanced abortion care??”
Good grief.
Courtnay, I am pretty sure the “advanced abortion care” might cost $8500 cause the baby is you know….big…and late term and 24+ weeks and certain kinds of instruments need to be used to stop the heart or crush the skull or tear off the arms and legs of the “bunch of cells.”
Editor: “to delete video with them it”?
Cephas, you’re the editor… :) I hate typos and appreciate all the eyes of help I can get. Thanks.
Oh MERCY! On page 4 of their report, they detail how they helped a girl get around mandatory reporting laws and covered up rape and incest. And they’re bragging about it.
http://dcabortionfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/annualreportFY11.pdf
Amber – I’m pretty sure it was NOT illegal or they would have been arrested.
The only thing I see that is illegal is DCAF covering up rape and incest (see page 4 of the annual report) AND the police officer demanding that the prolifer’s video be erased.
We may not agree with the tactics, but this is America and that was a much milder free-speech exercise than the Left’s OWS have been practicing. OWS makes room for us because it is easy to point out the Left’s hypocrisy when they try to stifle OUR free speech.
Paying for tickets with pre-canceled checks sounds pretty illegal. I don’t know for sure – but it’s pretty much theft. Not only is that against the Bible – but if the pro-aborts chose to press charges, I’m sure they could.
Amber,
using pre-cancelled checks is illegal. So is bouncing them. I don’t know how much enforcement there is on either. But it is illegal.
All of the women’s stories on their report are just sick. Seriously, rape by the father and helping to abort the baby and not report it? They’re announcing this like it’s a good thing?! And the woman who’s fiance was injured in battle…pawning the necklace he gave her to pay to kill his child! That is just evil. Really. I would give my life for any of my children. I have 4 and if by some crazy chance I got pregnant again (which won’t happen because I know what protection, vasectomy, etc… is) then I would do whatever it took to raise that baby.
Raelynn, not only did they not report it, but the girl went right back to LIVING with her father! What if it were to happen again? What kind of long-term help did they really provide her if she is still in that situation?
Duck – figured as much. Not something that is on the top of the police’s list. But still wrong.
And like others have said – this is simply not the way to win people over and get the message out.
That story on page four in their annual report is like reading the devil’s diary. I need to go throw up now. Literally.
When you say “Stupid terrorists”, Duck, I’m assuming you mean the partygoers who were in that bar that night to celebrate all the murdering they supported and committed this past year, right?
Wow, Amy1, thanks for pointing out that story. I didn’t read it. WOW.
“Raelynn, not only did they not report it, but the girl went right back to LIVING with her father! What if it were to happen again? What kind of long-term help did they really provide her if she is still in that situation”
The report says: “The case manager was the first person Camille had told about the assault, and after she listened to Camille’s story, she reassured Camille that we could help her find an abortion clinic, but also offered her referrals to a rape-crisis hotline and other health resources.”
Rape crisis hotline’s facilitate the police and legal aspects of rape cases. The young woman was 19. As a legal adult, it would be her responsibility to report the rape. If she were a minor, the clinic would have been required to refer the matter to child protective services.
Agree with Amber. Fraud and harassment… not something I could ever condone, as disgusting as the fundraiser is. Seriously, lionizing law-breaking and tactics like this is not something a pro-life leader should be doing.
Add it to the list of the things I can’t stand about Randall Terry and his followers.
Courtnay,
No, that’s not who I meant. I made it very clear who I meant. Also, assuming isn’t good. We all know what assuming does.
Real terrorists are the one who kill the innocent and defenseless. I assumed you knew that.
So this girl who was raped by her father was fortunate right? How compassionate for the clinic to discount the procedure to $985! What a steal! If the clinics care so deeply for women why didn’t they just do it for free? Why didn’t the doctor agree to do the abortion at no cost? Funny how CPC’s provide all sorts of services for free including buying very expensive baby furniture for women in need and covering medical costs for prenatal care. Pro-life doctors who work with CPC’s provide their services free of charge. But pro-aborts can’t do that, you see.
So this innocent 18 week old baby… fully formed, moving, feeling baby had to be ripped to shreds because his or her father is an incestuous rapist? Did we also put the father to death? Or just the innocent baby? And having the abortion I’m sure healed this girl of all the trauma of being raped by her dad. Yup. Abortion solved everything. Ask Rebecca Kiessling. Its much better to have your arms and legs ripped off and your skull crushed than to be the product of rape.
OOOh. K.
So: in your world, partycrashers are bad and babykillers, who really DON”T kill babies after all, should be allowed to party in peace, a peace, incidentally, that will elude anyone who is unborn.
And now you bring up Jesus? Let me just remind you about the time he cleaned the temple. Any day we can get between abortionists and a good time, especially as they use my Savior’s birthday as a reason to celebrate their carnage, is a good day.
Duck
I suggest you END all references to Jesus in this thread or I will continue to delete your comments.
You don’t like Randall Terry? Fine.
It’s a slippery slope, Courtnay. If today we are cool with breaking more minor laws, theft and trespassing, it’s easier to break more serious laws tomorrow. That crap is dangerous. Our side wasn’t heard, and I doubt they changed a single mind. They just made us look dangerous. Again. If they had just protested in front of the party, I wouldn’t have a problem with it, but they went way beyond that.
Well Jack what exactly have they been charged and arrested for?
They weren’t there to change minds. They were there to remind everyone just what they are partying about.
I admire their courage to speak up. I don’t exactly agree with everything RT does but why not show the partygoers what they are celebrating and supporting? Graphic images of abortion get that point across quite nicely I think.
I think the people who put on the fundraiser would have to press charges. Pretending to pay to get into a private for-profit function is illegal, at least in my state, I almost got arrested for it when I was like fifteen at a concert lol. It would probably fall under theft of services, trespassing, maybe harassment, something like that. I think it’s a bad precedent, a bad idea all around.
Like I said, I don’t think there was anything wrong with them protesting outside the function. I just don’t think law breaking leads anywhere good. Especially from what I have seen from these guys when they were here in my state.
Fair enough. :)
Carla,
Why is saying that Jesus preached the Golden Rule worthy of deletion? Is it because I’m prochoice that I’m not worthy of speaking his name to you? How nice. I’m not blaspheming. I’m not swearing. On what grounds is speaking about that deserving of deletion?
I think that Jack is just way above those Randell Terry types and is not about to stoop to their level.
Duck-
Missed you at the clinic yesterday. ;_;
Xalisae,
What clinic? And how would you know where my local clinic is?
Those plush ovaries are cute. It looks like a children’s toy. Too bad the money to pay for it goes to support abortion. If we did something like this, made our own cute plush ovary toys and sold them to raise money for pro-life, you bet the pro-aborts would scream about how gross it is. They’d say it was degrading to women, or something like that. Of course they don’t say that about the plush ovary toy created and sold for the pro-abort side, but we pro-lifers are judged by a different standard, so if we did it, it would be degrading to women. Sigh, you just can’t win with bigots.
Carla,
Why is saying that Jesus preached the Golden Rule worthy of deletion?
Carla is simply trying to save the lives of everyone here. She is afraid that reading such a thing when posted by a pro-legal-abortionist who advocates the youngest, most defenseless human beings among us be treated quite literally like trash/medical waste, might cause all of our heads to explode from the overwhelming IRONY.
Because it’s MY local clinic too, sillypants. Hoping a turnaround from yesterday stays turnedaround.
Xalisae,
Why would you go down there expecting to see me?
Xalisae,
How did you know where my local clinic was?
since you’re here, I figured you might feel adamant enough to deathscort for AMS. From the pictures in your hugbox, I figured that your local clinic WAS ams. Was I wrong?
I’m no Sherlock Holmes, so if I’m incorrect in either conclusion, please let me know. :)
Xalisae,
What picture on my blog? I’m pretty sure most of the pictures on my blog came from the interwebs. So, why would you go to that clinic, looking for me? What were you expecting to happen?
1.) pictures of a parade of sorts in Milwaukee that I saw, 2.) I went to the clinic anyway, I didn’t go there specifically looking for you, but it would’ve been neat to talk to you in person. 3.) I was expecting you to try and get people in there to kill the young human beings inside them as quickly as possible, so that they could hear as little from me trying to convince them not to kill the very young, gestating human beings inside them who happen to be their children as possible.
So it goes.
Does Jill Stanek endorse check fraud? Judging from her glowing review of a prank that explicitly involves such, I’m guessing yes?
Xalisae,
What made you think that the picture you seen, was “my” clinic? What made you think that I would be there? Why would you want to talk to me in person, when our conversations here are rarely pleasant, and you’ve already bullied me?
X, Duck is baiting you. Didn’t you know? All we pro-lifers are CRAZY and KILLERS! I mean, you were probably there to beat Duck up, right? “Convert to pro-life or die!” Thats how we operate. I do it all the time. Works like a charm at my local PP.
Duck, maybe X was hoping to meet you face to face and develop a rapport with you. Stop being so paranoid!
It’s ok, Sydney. Duck can always ask the other deathscorts out there how mean I was to them. I still say that kid in the fingerless Misfits gloves DESERVED that swirly! MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
:P
Duck,
asked and answered so….I don’t know what else you expect Xalise to say.
I have the right as a mod to delete comments that break the rules.
Nothing to do with you being proabortion duck but you go on and just keep thinking that.
It was blasphemous.
If you don’t like religion “shoved down your throat” then stop bringing it up. LOL
CT and Sydney,
I’m not asking you.
What made you think that the picture you seen, was “my” clinic? What made you think that I would be there?
Like I said, Duck, nothing in particular. Just a guess. Not that I even really cared, Duck. I just thought it would’ve been fun-you doing your thing, me doing mine, and hopefully mine being very effective. I think it would be helpful to you to see more children like the one I was shown yesterday morning by a young woman who came up to me and hugged me and thanked me for being out there and told me that her son was alive today and 2 years old because of us. I just want to try and help make that many more kids like hers and mine. You know…ALIVE kids. Not the dead ones in buckets YOU would be helping to make.
and you’ve already bullied me?
In your opinion. The fact you seem to be afraid of me is your problem, not mine. You should get that looked at.
Xalisae,
What made you think that I’d want to be around you? What makes you think I’m scared of you? Just because I called you out on being a bully? Hardly equates being scared. Just means I’m not afraid to call it like I see it.
I’m sure this stunt raised a ton of extra money for the Pro-choice organization that put on this event. This moron just reaffirmed every single thing the pro-choice group was saying about the current attacks on choice in this country. Thank you Moron!
what makes me think that? Your behavior in this thread and the fact you “bawww”d about me being “a bully” just because apparently you’ve never been pressed to substantiate a thing you’ve said in your life until you met me. XD
Xalisae,
Bursting your ego a bit. There have been many that have forced me to question and substantiate my views before. None of those people however, stalked me. Mind your own life, don’t worry about mine. And stay away from me.
Ego? “Pot”, meet “Kettle”. Stalking you? Did you miss the bit where I said I didn’t give a squat whether or not you were there? Puh-leeze.
Her son was really cute. He looked a lot cuter because his mom sided with us instead of you guys. ^_^
Sydney,
I actually did have a rather pleasant conversation with one of the deathscorts there. He and I shook hands when it was time for me to leave. He told me I should read a book. I asked him to specify his recommendation and told him I myself happened to be very fond of biology books and have read quite a few. He didn’t answer. :(
Jack, these people kill other people for a LIVING and are celebrating it under the guise of a religious holiday. I LOVE the fact they had to put down their gin & tonics and baked brie for a moment and watch the bloody body parts.
Why aren’t you more outraged?
And Biggz? the only attack on choice I’m interested in is when people choose to KILL. Take that choice crap and put it you know where; your use of it is moronic.
I am outraged, just as I am outraged about abortion all together. Doesn’t matter how outraged I am, I still don’t condone illegal actions. It doesn’t help us in the long run. It’s not practical. Maybe it’s a little cold, but I would rather concentrate on things that actually help.
X, you know I respect you, but your comments come across as targeting. I can see why Duck would be nervous.
I see your point.
Ugh, I think that they could have made their point more tactfully. I think every person who is against abortion feels the pain knowing everyday that no matter what their efforts are that in this moment a child is dying and another is being lined up behind him or her.
Going in and screaming what sounds like maniacal rantings isn’t proving anything. Information that can be backed (like that information that is TRUE about the killing of black babies) will be much more likely to make others see the truth.
Standing outside with signs of aborted babies I think can be effective but, to be honest, I would be really ticked if my child saw it.
Anyone who wants an ovary plush without giving to this group can find one at http://iheartguts.com/ I have know idea if the manufacturer donated the ovary or if DCAF bought one to auction off, but I’ve seen plush organs before.
I’ve got a better reason for X to ignore certain trolls: it feeds narcissism. Many women who are postabortive struggle with an unhealthy level of narcissism and it’s easy to see why: if you kill your child then you sure better think you are better than that child and that his murder was “worth it.” It’s a pretty obvious coping mechanism. Many of our trolls keep blogs and do all they can to get more and more attention, but will deny they are doing just that.
In all the time I’ve been on the interwebs, I’ve seen very few trolls who actually wanted to learn from the opposition. In fact, one of those rare folks is right here on this blog regularly but I don’t want to name any names. Said pro-choicer looks to be softening up lately and I won’t be suprised to eventually hear that the person has crossed the road to pro-life. Sadly, most of the time our comments fall on deaf ears.
The time is upon us when so many people are pro-life that it is not possible for us to be swept into a single neat category. Hallelujah! I wouldn’t used the same method of gate-crashing, but I can’t say I mind the fact that abortion advocates feel the pressure constantly. They declared war on the child, not us, but can’t take the heat when we try to defend the innocent. I personally would prefer to keep supporting my local CPC’s and my local moms, and just let the abortion fans wallow in their little echo chambers all by themselves.
Jack –
No more targeting than targeting any other person who happened or did not happen to be there that day that I happen to live in the same city as.
X, I haven’t actually been able to talk to the clinic workers but last time I was at PP during 40 days for life the clinic workers were leaving for the day and they nodded at us like “hey”. It was a hopeful sign, like they knew why we were there and they knew we weren’t crazy and we weren’t going to hurt them. We just stood there silently and prayed. Prayed for them too. Its got to be depressing working in a clinic where children die and where women are swallowed up in hopelessness.
Sydney,
My experience with the volunteers was more positive than the one I had with someone who actually worked there. She went across the street for something, and I told her why I was there on her way back in, and I told her about my daughter and how her dad wanted me to abort her. She said, “You should have.”
Boy howdy, do they ever totally care about women. Yep. It’s sooo obvious.
So you guys would be cool with a bunch of “pro-aborts” crashing a pro-life Catholic event – doing stuff like throwing rosaries on the floor etc.
If a bunch of Muslims crashed some event in the name of Allah, you’d be calling them domestic terrorists. But Terry, a convicted anti-abortion terrorist, gets a free pass from you and the Catholic Church for his antics.
Knowingly and intentionally passing dud checks huh.
“WE’RE not the ones who sell plush ovaries and put uteruses on belt buckles” – no, just the rosary of the unborn with it’s little fetus.
And BTW, if pro-lifers engaged in the type of Randall Terry activism, I would not condone it. I was never fully onboard with some of Act-Up’s more strident acts.
Does anybody know if Terry reconciled with his gay son who was recently killed in an auto accident?
cc, you are welcome attend any pro-life event at all! Stay for cookies and tea. We could use the free rosaries anyway. And I wish a few Muslims would come too. We welcome all folks: monotheists, polytheists, atheists, come on by! In fact, the Walks for Life are coming up in January and we do hope to see everyone there.
Like I said, I wouldn’t have crashed the event in that manner, but you are welcome to attend any of ours. Bring the Pepto bus, lol! Nobody here is giving them a free pass, as you can see by the comments, some pro-lifers think it’s not the way to win hearts. Do you not read all the comments or do you just skim to the ones you like?
I heard that Terry and his son were speaking regularly before his unfortunate demise.
Also, around Halloween you can buy body parts of all different kinds and I don’t think the stores that sell them care if you’re pro-life or pro-choice.
I would be reluctant to criticize another pro-lifer’s non-violent efforts to end abortion. There are many strategies that can be used and any that put the spotlight on this barbaric, inhumane practice should be applauded. As boorish as their behavior may be viewed, these pro-lifers reminded the participants what their “Choice” really is. They reminded the DC cops what it is that they are protecting.
I am tired of the continued indifference of Christians to this ongoing slaughter of children in their mothers’ wombs. People get all worked up about whether someone says “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas” while women continue to stream into abortion centers to have their offspring killed by doctors. I would suggest to parents who don’t like their children being exposed to pictures of aborted babies to be proactive and start talking to your children about what abortion is, and what you are doing to end this barbaric practice. Because your children will be exposed to abortion by their friends or by your friendly neighborhood abortion facility as early as their pre-teen years.
Wow. X. That is unbelievable anyone could say that to a mother. And about a FEMALE child no less! Like you said, pro-woman right? pffft.
“X, you know I respect you, but your comments come across as targeting. I can see why Duck would be nervous.”
Same. I find it aggressive and vaguely threatening when people I don’t know well go out of their way to ‘remind’ me that we may run into each other, or that they know where I live, out of the context of a conversation. Especially if the place they mention “possibly” seeing me is a place I have not actually told them I go. I’ve had guys do that to me before. They always claim it’s innocent, like WIMMENZ BE CRAZY WTF I WAS JUST BEING NICE, but it’s a power play designed to make sure I know they know where I live, what I do, and where I hang out.
“Oh, maybe I’ll see you at that cafe in your parents’ hometown! The one with the really good cupcakes. Yeah, I know, you never told me that. I went through your facebook friends list and found out your mom’s name, then went and looked her address up in a white pages search, then wikipedia’d the town to search for local interests. Then Yelped and Google Earthed the local stores to see which ones you would be likely to frequent, based on what I know about your tastes. WHAT, IT’S ALL RIGHT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE! ALL I HAD TO KNOW WAS THAT YOU LIKE CUPCAKES! GOD, YOU ARE SO PARANOID!”
On another internetz forum, someone knew the neighborhood I lived in at the time. Being from the same city but not the same neighborhood, she would know things about what was going on that would not necessarily be news-worthy, and would bring them up randomly, whenever we disagreed or something. It would be like:
Person: “Statement about political or economic issue.”
Me: “I disagree, x y and z.”
Person: “Hey, Alexandra. Did the city get around to plowing your street yet or are you still snowbound?” or “Hey, crazy about that maple-syrup smell that engulfed your whole neighborhood this morning.”
It was just somewhat threatening in a strange way. Like, “Oh hi. You disagree with me and my rebuttal is I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE.”
Alexandra-
If I did volunteer work for a cause, then started trolling a blog that was counter to that cause while posting a link to a blog all about me in every single troll I trolled, I wouldn’t be a bit surprise to find that I had inadvertently recruited someone to my counter-cause at the same location.
Personally, I don’t see what the big deal is. I’ve always wanted to sidewalk counsel, I only recently moved somewhere that I could do it, so I’ve been eager to. The first time I went there was before I even knew Duck lived in the same area OR escorted there. There’s no difference if I would’ve first interacted with her here or there the first time I showed up to testify to support human rights.
Duck is acting like a paranoid child. Not that I’m surprised by that.
“There’s no difference if I would’ve first interacted with her here or there the first time I showed up to testify to support human rights.”
I think that if you met her first in real life, and you came to realize that the Duck commenting on this blog is the escort you already know IRL, and talked about that in specifics, it would be equally disconcerting. Some people don’t like their location and specific places of activity “outed’ in a forum in which they remain moderately anonymous. To me it’s more about courtesy than a hard and fast line – just because you can find out information about someone if you look hard enough doesn’t mean it isn’t still polite to let that person share that information of their own volition – or not – as they choose, in a given forum.
People could probably find out which theaters I work in, if they really wanted to. I mean, for a while my resume was on my FB profile, so everyone here that I’m friends with could see every production I’ve worked on. Heck, I have had long-time internet friends visit me when they are in the city, and I give them tours of the theater I’m currently working in, and whatever show is there. But I would feel really, really exposed if someone brought any of that up in a forum where I have not shared that information – whether they got that information from the internets or from meeting me in real life.
“so everyone here that I’m friends with could see every production I’ve worked on.”
Yes. That you are friends with on FB. Duck displays all the information pretty prominently on her FB page. I realized she was in the area by a couple pictures of buildings I’ve been by that were up at the top of the page and her talking about working on the recall of Scott Walker. It’s not like I spent hours pouring over information to derive any of this. Seriously. Her acting so shocked is just ridiculous.
At 1:25 on the video you can barely see Gary tossing bloody plastic babies on the floor
Wow. :) :)
I find it hard enough to remember who’s male or female on this forum. Where they get their cupcakes is not high on my list of priorities. :)
The real payback to these blasphemous heathen will come tenfold for mocking the Lord for using the Christmas season to raise money to mutilate women and kil their and children. The pro-aborts have their undies in knots about the Planned Barrenhood defunding that occured in 2011. May God see to it that 2012 leaves them looking back to 2011 as the good old days before just prior to their government funding getting stripped and leaving their coffers as empty as their souls. Wishing all a Christmas season filled with PEACE on earth to all God’s children. For it is the will of God that his children on earth be loved as they are in heaven. And may his holy angels visit Duck at with every deathscort he walks. To bless and protect not only our mother’s and children; but also Duck from the devil and his minions. And here’s to wishing Planned Barrenhood a Happy Happy defunding in the New Year. God will not be mocked.
“will come tenfold” – why ten? Why not six, or fifty?
“The pro-aborts have their undies in knots” – do you buy yours pre-bunched?
“filled with PEACE on earth” – unfortunately I would suggest that you don’t hold your breath.
I can’t mock what isn’t there truthseeker ;-)
Any person who uses the Christmas season to raise funds to mutilate mother’s and kill their children is to mocking God wether they are a believer or not.
Any person who uses the Christmas season to raise funds to mutilate mother’s and kill their children is mocking God wether they are a believer or not.
That just isn’t logical truthseeker.
Two things that aren’t logical.
One is people using the Christmas holiday to raise money ao they can fund commiting abortion on women and their unborn children and second is that those same people do not comprehend that they mock God when they do it. Happy defunding in 2012.
“Yes. That you are friends with on FB. Duck displays all the information pretty prominently on her FB page. I realized she was in the area by a couple pictures of buildings I’ve been by that were up at the top of the page and her talking about working on the recall of Scott Walker. It’s not like I spent hours pouring over information to derive any of this. Seriously. Her acting so shocked is just ridiculous.”
I just think it’s rude and can certainly, understandably be seen as aggressive and threatening, x. It’s more about…like, why mention it out of context for no reason at all, unless you want her to know that you know these things about her? That is the part that always sets my red flags going, when guys do it to me. Not that they know these conceivably public things, necessarily, but that they want ME to know they know. Like, ok.
Dear Duck,
Your blog posts and facebook links about what goes on here at Jill’s would be funny if they weren’t so pathetic. And juvenile. Copying your deleted comments and posing a question to your “thousands of readers?” Hilarious, yet sad in a way.
You are only here for blog fodder and we all know it. And yet you persist.
Have a nice day.
Reality “tenfold” is an expression. But aren’t you just cute. Maybe God will repay 100 fold. I wouldn’t test His patience.
It is ironic is it not, that at Christmas we are celebrating the birth of a baby that was unplanned and born to a teen mother! And yet these pro-aborts use Christmas to make sure unplanned babies and babies of teen mothers never see the light of day.
Ech. I understand (I think?) what the group was trying to do, but: how long will it be until the side of life realizes that one can never do evil, even if good might result? No possible ends can justify evil means. We’re not just trying to “win” a few skirmishes, here; we’re trying to win a war!
Does anybody know if Terry reconciled with his gay son
Obsess much?
“Two things that aren’t logical.
One is people using the Christmas holiday to raise money ao they can fund commiting abortion on women and their unborn children and second is that those same people do not comprehend that they mock God when they do it. Happy defunding in 2012”
People can raise money when and where they choose. Why should choice organizations be beholden to a holiday that, while secularized, is based on religion. Inasmuch as you hate these folks, there are many pro-choice Christian clergy. (RH Reality Check has a great article by a pro-choice woman Presbyterian minister). They do not view their views as “mocking” God. And for those, in the choice community, who don’t believe in “God” or who follow non-Christian traditions,” the timing of the events is irrelevant.
Obsess much?
Strike a discordant note?
“Happy defunding in 2012?
And remind me how many court injunctions have been placed on the defunding efforts? Providence RI Planned Parenthood, going strong!!!
(*sigh*) Trolls are fleet of foot, this week…
Don’t feed the trolls (CC, joan), y’all…
Strike a discordant note?
Just a repetitive note. As usual. That’s pretty much all you’ve got, though, isn’t it? Banal repetition.
The fact that Terry’s son was gay has nothing to do with the fact that he and his wife have lost their son, whom they loved.
The only ones obsessing over his son’s sex life are people who can’t seem to offer their condolences but have to bring up points of family division out of spite.
Super classy.
You got it Kel. But then again, how can the CC’s and Joan’s of the world comprehend loving your child no matter what? Even if he is unplanned, even if his father is a jerk, even if you don’t have money and yes, even if he grows up and does things you find disappointing. The love you have for your child never goes away.
What is the point of that? It is that kind of behavior that gives the pro life movement a bad name.
I think that we do the movement a disservice if we talk like all parents love their children. Not every unplanned pregnancy ends up with a loved child. We need to remember that the unloved children deserve to live, even if their mothers never, ever grow to love and want them. It’s just when I see people talking like every mother loves their child, they are unconsciously agreeing with the pro-abortion sentiment that unloved children are worthless. :(
Mostly off-topic: I found out in October, at the birth of my 4th child, that I was born without a right ovary, so I am SO buying the plush one as a replacement. http://iheartguts.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=207
Also the gallbladdar, as my first child pummeled mine to death 17+ years ago. http://iheartguts.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=238
Carry on.
People need to stop doing shady things, just bringing a bad name..
Jack – you always inspire me and try to keep everyone on track. :) Bless you.
All children are not loved or wanted by their biological parents – but all babies, children, and adults alike are loved and wanted by so many others. It is not our job to pick and choose who is wanted and unwanted and kill off those who some believe are not wanted.
Likewise, it is our job however to make a difference in the lives of children who may not have good home lives, and to show love and compassion – to change the minds of the world, to show people that abuse and neglect are not the way. That adoption is a great option. That there is hope, love, and a future in Jesus Christ.
:)
Amen, Amber.
I totally get what you are trying to say, Jack. Even though our earthly parents did not love us, God does. Our heavenly Father.
Though my mother and father forsake me the Lord will receive me. Psalm 27:10
Helena,
Well, I found your comment amusing, anyway! :)
Thanks to those of you who have decried Terry’s tactics. Isn’t everyone entitled to holiday celebrations? I know it would be in the worst possible taste if NARAL folks crashed a party for a pro-life organization.
I’m fiercely pro-choice BUT I understand the complexity of having passionately held views and I respect you for yours. At least I know you care.
Happy Holidays to the very decent pro-lifers who are moved by a sense of justice, but who are gracious and measured.
Tera, I also believe everyone is entitled to holiday celebrations. Shame for all those babies who will never get to experience the holidays thanks to “choice”.
And btw, NARAL can crash a pro-life party. We welcome them.
Remember pro-lifers trying to have a talk about abortion and the pro-choicers came and just chanted? The pro-lifers tried to dialogue with them yet all the pro-choicers could do was chant… and trying to chant down a black woman no less when the talk was on abortion in the black community. Ha. That was classic. The pro-lifers handled themselves well.
Well, so much for my olive branch.
Nice racist angle, too.
“Isn’t everyone entitled to holiday celebrations?”
Should people who kill unborn children for a living entitled to celebrate Mother’s day? Can people who mock Christ ‘celebrate’ Christmas? It is an oxymoron Tera. May this Christmas season bring God’s will upon us and also bring Planned Parenthood a Joyous defunding in 2012.