Obama admin: Business owners forfeit First Amendment rights
The Greens [who own the Hobby Lobby arts and crafts chain] weren’t arguing that morning-after pills should be illegal. They weren’t even trying to keep their employees from using them. They just didn’t want to implicate themselves in what they saw as immoral activity.
The [Obama] administration responded with an unsettling argument: The Greens aren’t protected by the First Amendment’s “free exercise” clause in this case because they operate a secular business. “Hobby Lobby is a for-profit, secular employer,” the Obama administration wrote in a brief, “and a secular entity by definition does not exercise religion.”…
So, people have First Amendment protections as long as they don’t start businesses. If they do, and if they operate their businesses according with their own consciences, they “become laws unto themselves,” as the Obama administration puts it.
So this is who the Left has in mind when it says conservatives are trying to legislate morality: people who dare to follow their moral and religious beliefs, as opposed to a code devised by bureaucrats regulating a secular state.
If people want to adhere to their faith, they best stay quiet about it….
This is the culture war today – Christians offend secular liberals by not abiding by the Left’s social mores. In effect, they “impose” their morality if they dare exercise their religion in public. Christians are intolerable rebels if they try to operate institutions outside of government.
This is why a re-elected Obama is daunting…. Where else will this view lead the administration?
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Mainstream secularism is turing into a radical legalistic religion willing to prevent others from practicing their own religion. This is secularism as Sharia Law.
Right the now the punishment for the Greens is that they can’t own their business; the next punishment is going to be stoning for wearing a cross in a “public” space.
Perhaps the government’s actions are more accurately described as an anti-religion pro-communist agenda masquerading as secularism.
Tyler, it’s fascism, plain and simple. The belief that everything must be inside the state, and nothing outside it, that centralizing power in the hands of experts will deliver a better society for all. It never works. Any institution (religion, family, charities) that aren outside the state threaten their vision, so they must be broken or captured. Planned Parenthood was very counter-cultural but is now a owned subsidiary of the state and the Left. That’s why the Left is more tolerant of actual Sharia Law than the owners of Hobby Lobby or crisis pregnancy centers, it’s a cudgel to wield against their own institutions to break them down. People are just replaceable parts in the machinery of state, and in their utilitarian mindset they can be ripped to pieces or told to give up their business if it makes society as a whole “happier.”
What the hellth scare!
The Greens did not build that business any way.
The ‘state’ did and serving the ‘state’ is the highest form or secular worship
or
worshipping the state is the highest form of secular service.
We are being corralled.
the next punishment is going to be stoning for wearing a cross in a “public” space.
To steal a bit from NRA fans: They’ll have to pry my cross from my cold dead hands.
I have had students ask me at public school, “Are you allowed to wear that here?”
Truly frightening.
“This is why a re-elected Obama is daunting…. Where else will this view lead the administration?”
Crack open just about any significant history book and you should find the answer fairly easily.
And repeatedly.
Slow learners, these “progressives”.
Religion is not, and never has been, a “get out of your legal obligations free” card. A business owner who happens to belong to a white supremacist church or political organization–activity that is also constitutionally protected–would not be excused from his responsibility to abide by laws forbidding private businesses from practicing racially discriminatory hiring practices.
So joan, any law that is passed by Congress must be adhered to by every business, even if it flies in the face of the Constitution. What if Congress passed a law forcing every business to give a “prolife tax” to prolife pregnancy centers? What if they passed a law requiring every pro-choicer to be fired from a business?
Joan would you be saying the same thing if there was a law forcing restaurants to sell pork and several Jewish store owners didn’t want to? That’s not a very kosher attitude, joan…
Some of my best clients are people of strong faith who are regular churchgoers. I’m quite happy to deal with them as they are nice people. They don’t try to convert me and I don’t lampoon them.
Don’t confuse practising your faith with promoting your faith. You are free to adhere to what ever personal principles you wish. But to try to impose the dictates of your beliefs on other people, including employees, is wrong.
Some of you waffle on about totaltarianism, facism etc. etc. I find the possibility of those emerging to be much less likely than elements of theocracy emerging. And this feeble attempt at ananolgy of ‘forcing kosher restaurants to sell pork’ is just ludicrous. What they wouldn’t be permitted to do is prevent employees from eating pork if they so wished.
None of these things are about forcing anyone to do anything. They’re about preventing certain people from stopping others doing what they choose to do.
Amazing. Over 40 years since Bernard Nathanson told other abortion advocates, “Let’s use the word ‘choice’ because it sound so much better than feticide or infanticide…” you abortion zealots actually BELIEVE your own lie! Abortion, as EVERYBODY KNOWS, murders an innocent human being. It’s bullying at its very brutal worst, and yet, oh la-ti-da, it’s just another choice among all the other choices we make… AND to add insult to already grievous millions-upon-millions-of little lives snuffed out injury, abortion zealots want to make abortion the official religion of the federal government. Abortion uber alles, right zealots?
We silly little Catholics, we have a wee sip of wine and a bit of wafer but ah, you progressive abortion zealots, your religion demands bloody human sacrifice that ALL must pay for. Separation of church and state? Doesn’t look like it, zealots. Looks like you worship at your own altar and will suffer no dissent. Well, I got news for you, abortion worshippers: We’re not ever going away until abortion is outlawed, worldwide.
Pro-lifers are HERE, so HEAR, and GET USED TO IT.
“So joan, any law that is passed by Congress must be adhered to by every business, even if it flies in the face of the Constitution.”
Are you a recent immigrant to this country? Slept through your civics classes? Yes, we are obligated to obey the law, unless it is determined to be unconstitutional by the judiciary, your silly counterfactuals notwithstanding.
“Joan would you be saying the same thing if there was a law forcing restaurants to sell pork and several Jewish store owners didn’t want to? That’s not a very kosher attitude, joan…”
As it turns out, Jewish store owners aren’t exempted from the law either.
“abortion zealots want to make abortion the official religion of the federal government” – keep it up, keep losing. Please, put it on a sign and wander the streets.
“We’re not ever going away until abortion is outlawed, worldwide” – so that’s why we are actually seeing official zombie avoidance and defence information. Cos you’re gonna be strolling the earth for a very loooong time.
The HHS mandate is scary, whatever your thoughts are on abortion drugs and contraception. If the gov’t can make some people go against their beliefs, they can make other groups go against their beliefs, too.
I’m still scratching my head that in Obama’s economy a few people are more concerned with subsidizing their sex lives than Americans without jobs, etc. Delusion is kind of a funny thing.
Don’t confuse practising your faith with promoting your faith. You are free to adhere to what ever personal principles you wish. But to try to impose the dictates of your beliefs on other people, including employees, is wrong.
What are your thoughts on my wearing a crucifix to a public school?
Personally Praxedes, if that is all you were doing then I wouldn’t have an issue with that at all. It’s a piece of jewellery that you choose to wear for your own personal reasons.
This is total crap and the SCOTUS should deem it as such if it ever goes before them. A business not providing abortificients to it employees does not perform any undue burden or irreparable harm to them. They are free to get there abortificients on their own and pay for it themselves. It should be that simple. These liberals are freaking nuts.
Thanks for answering my question, Reality.
I find my crucifix to be a great conversation starter for curious young people looking for direction. No need to preach. They ask. I answer.
Life is good.
Just like someone wearing a Flying Spaghetti Monster t-shirt. Good for you. Now if you (or the FSM t-shirt wearer) were trying to do that in a public school then you would need to take the conversation out of school hours or off site, otherwise you are proseltyzing, and that would be inappropriate.
Joan are you trying to compare racism to purchasing abortifacients and contraception???
LOL! Hey Reality, have you lit up a cigarette in any restaurants lately? Have you lit up at work? On a bus? On a plane? At the hair salon???
No? Remember when people thought all the anti-smokers were nuts? Yep. Keep laughing, zealot. Barry the Zero didn’t win by a landslide, contrary to your rose colored contact lenses. Half the voters didn’t want him. Sail the river Denial if you wish.
Reality @ 7:56pm
I think you are confused. There is no proselytizing on my part. You said yourself there was no problem with me wearing a piece of jewelery to a public school. Haven’t you ever asked anyone the story behind a beautiful accessory they are wearing? Maybe when you ask about the jewelery, they tell you the story behind the jewelry or what it represents?
They ask. I answer. If students proseltyze to their friends at a later date, who am I to judge them. After all, you know I can’t control what people talk about.
Heck ninek, I remember smoking in restaurants, the workplace, and on buses and planes myself!
Yes, there was a period where people thought the anti-smokers were nuts. Especially while the tobacco companies were paying some elements of the scientific community to produce reports denying what the objective scientists were finding. You know, just like some elements of the anti-choice fraternity keep trying to create or dredge up reports attempting to counteract what the objective scientific community continues to find.
Correct, Barry the Hero didn’t win by a landslide – even though he won as many colleges as the wingnuts were proclaiming would have been a landslide if Romney had won them.
What I find interesting is the republicans loss of certain house seats which had been held long term by republicans but where the ‘traditional’ republican had been ousted by a ‘regressive’ republican. Interesting.
A good look at the senate is interesting also.
So now there is a call for the republicans to buddy up to african-americans and the hispanic community. You’d better hurry, they’re already moving to the left.
I can’t wait for the mid-terms.
I’m not a republican so spare yourself some of your puffed up gloating energy.
Meanwhile, quietly and without your acknowledgment, more and more people self-identify as pro-life than ever before. Make fun of the church, tell people they’re out of touch with modern views. We’ve heard it before. For thousands of years. The church has seen many an empire come and go.
Abortion advocates: Future generations will treasure new life and look on you like the true evolutionary dead ends that you are. No culture has ever slaughtered its way to prosperity. All brutishness ends eventually. So it will go with abortion. You’re history. Literally.
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Reality, let me know if you have any questions.
“more and more people self-identify as pro-life than ever before” – I love this one, I’ve watched the attempts at modest gloat here for a few days now.
So what do we actually have? The question is ‘do you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life?’. The operative word being ‘consider’. As I said a few days ago, this requires an element of qualitative analysis to augment the quantitative results. Who asked the question? When? Where? Of whom?
For instance, at what point do people actually consider themselves one or the other? Hey, I consider myself to be pro-life when it really boils down to the best outcomes for society.
So what else may assist us in identifying some potential expansion of this? Hm, could it be that graph further down the page which tells us that those who believe ‘abortion should be illegal in all circumstances’ has, um, fallen – from 22% to 20%?
‘Legal in certain’ has risen by 2% while ‘legal in all’ has fallen by 2%.
And what does all this tell us? Well, naff-all really. My guess is that a lot of the 5% increase in those who consider themselves ‘pro-life’ only mean it until personal circumstances dictate otherwise. As is often the case.
Yes, pro-choicers are history. Now and forever, because abortion will be here, now and forever. It was here before your church, it’ll be here after it.
Yes Praxedes, do you want my work or home postal address?
“I’m not a republican so spare yourself some of your puffed up gloating energy.” – what, you think the democrats are gonna give you what you most want?
Obama has established the statist version of dhimmitude.
Let’s if the Muslims are subjected to this standard, by Obama, and if they will accept it.
Addresses Unreality: Refusing to buy your birth control is not preventing you from buying your own.
We know that leftists in general don’t feel too competent to provide for themselves, but birth control is fairly cheap. Even abortion is fairly cheap. You could give up your starbucks for a year and pay for your abortion. Think you could handle that??
Birth control for all is a significantly lower cost than 18 years or more of welfare for, lets say, 1 in 20 unintended births. I thought you’d like that.
“We know that leftists in general don’t feel too competent to provide for themselves” – nice ad hom! At least leftists are happy to share resources with others to make for a just society.
Let me know when churches stop getting tax breaks and grants from various levels of government Pharmer.
Yes Praxedes, do you want my work or home postal address?
You can ask right here. I don’t go to Jill’s site at work so you won’t need to worry about my crossing boundaries. I have no interest in knowing anything about where you live and certainly don’t want you to know where I do.
“Yes, there was a period where people thought the anti-smokers were nuts. Especially while the tobacco companies were paying some elements of the scientific community to produce reports denying what the objective scientists were finding.”
Wow, check that out. Some semblance of reality actually seeped past your tinfoil hat barrier. There’s hope for you yet, abortion zealots.
At least leftists are happy to share resources with others to make for a just society.
Yeah. Leftists are happy to share OTHER PEOPLES’ resources for a “just” society. That’s why all the most charitable states are red states.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79888.html
My theory is, leftists are by nature greedy and self-centered, so they imagine that everyone else in the world is, so they think that government MUST intervene in order to help the poor, because if everyone thought like they did, nobody WOULD.
Birth control for all is a significantly lower cost than 18 years or more of welfare for, lets say, 1 in 20 unintended births. I thought you’d like that.
Saying no to recreational intercourse is free.
Aw shucks Praxedes, I thought you were offering to buy it for me. Why else would you show it to me and ask if I had any questions?
We all know what the tobacco industry did ninek. The same thing the anti-choice industry attempts to do now.
That’s quite interesting xalisae, especially when we consider that red states receive, on average, far more from the federal government in expenditures than they pay in taxes. The balance is the opposite in blue states. And since that is the case, its likely that there is a greater need for charity within those red states. I think your theory is wrong.
“Saying no to recreational intercourse is free.” – saying yes ain’t exactly expensive. Probably cheaper than many other forms of recreation.
And we are not even done with his first term yet…hang on tight, this is going to be one tough ride!
Reality, surely you’re not going to tell us that cigarettes are good for you? You’re logic is faulty. Both cigarettes and abortion are unhealthy. Facts are facts. The anti abortion movement is much more honest than the abortion industry.
We’ve got the facts on our side. All you have is ‘might makes right.’ Abortion is unhealthy for both individuals and communities. It’s like a disease, and like many diseases humans will heal from it. It’s history. and by the way, your emperor has no clothes.
No faults with my logic. As I said, “we all know what the tobacco industry did ninek. The same thing the anti-choice industry attempts to do now”.
Yes, facts are facts. And the facts are that abortion does not cause the measurable harm that the anti-choice industry try to claim.
“The anti abortion movement is much more honest than the abortion industry.” – so you say, I obviously disagree.
“We’ve got the facts on our side” – no, you think you do, or maybe you pretend you do.
‘Abortion is a disease’ – well there go your ‘facts’.
“It’s history” – lotsa stuff has history, doesn’t mean that it’s ended or about to.
I have no emperor, I’m atheist remember.
The same thing the anti-choice industry attempts to do now.
The “anti-choice industry“? MAN, I HAVEN’T BEEN GETTING PAID FOR THIS!!! Brb, going afk to get my sponsorship money from Pampers.
lol!
Considering how funds have been habitually mismanaged federally, I’d say amount of funds received is getting ready to be a moot point. I’m sure the states can get it into line without the federal government getting in the way. I think Wisconsin is up to having a SURPLUS now after years in the red thanks to Republican Scott Walker.
The term is pro-life, not anti-choice.
I know xalisae!!! It’s just as bad as the whole HuffPo debacle isn’t it. You contribute so much for free and then someone else profits from it.
“Saying no to recreational intercourse is free.”
Is sex an enjoyable experience for any of you people?
(nods vigorously)
Blue Velvet Hmmm: “Is sex an enjoyable experience for any of you people?”
Definitely. So is eating. But if I ate like some people chase after sex, there’re bridges they wouldn’t let me drive over.
” Is sex an enjoyable experience for any of you people?”
Lol yeah sex is awesome. So’s birth control, condoms, etc. Abortion, not at all.
Sex can be good exercise, it can help keep weight down.
Is sex an enjoyable experience for any of you people?
Prolife myth number 59: Prolifers are all frigid and hate sex.
Is there any sex that is not an enjoyable experience for you, Sad Velvet?
Reality, cigarettes helped keep my weight down. But, alas, they were not good for me.
I don’t subscribe to that myth.
Yes, as Ben Lee said ‘cigarettes will kill you’
I’m still disappointed, I thought you were sending me a gift :-(
But CVS has to forfeit its first amendment rights because a pharmacist doesn’t want to dispense RU486. The pharmacist should seek employment elsewhere–perhaps at a Catholic Hospital pharmacy.
xalisae, much of the “charity” in those red states is due to tithing to churches. Lots of churchgoers feel obligated to give to the churches.
My state allows concealed weapons. But my local gym bans guns on its premises?
Shall we alert Eric Holder that the gym is making its own laws?
The local movie theater does not allow outside food to be brought in?
Mr. Holder, are they making their own laws?
xalisae, much of the “charity” in those red states is due to tithing to churches. Lots of churchgoers feel obligated to give to the churches.
So, donating $50 million to build a giant art museum to hold your collection and allow it to be open free to the public to enjoy is charity, but some truck driver giving to his church which provides a community for his family and kids is just like joining a for profit health club?
Why can’t the guys these women sleep with pay for the contraception? Doesn’t that seem reasonable?
“So, donating $50 million to build a giant art museum to hold your collection and allow it to be open free to the public to enjoy is charity, but some truck driver giving to his church which provides a community for his family and kids is just like joining a for profit health club? ”
Well, a lot of churches operate soup kitchens and such, really give back to the community. When I was homeless there were a few that did that (a couple people weren’t very nice, but the majority were really nice and kind people). Of course I didn’t take advantage of the help because I was really, really anti-church and religion but it was there for a lot of my friends.
As a non-religious person, I will freely admit that the largest charitable organization in the world is The Catholic Church. It does not pain me to admit that, nor does it diminish my own beliefs (or lack thereof) to praise them for the good they do. Over 90% of funds given to Catholic charities go towards actually helping those targeted for reception of services. That is a VERY good percentage in the realm of charities. Outstanding, really. Do you really think there is anyone who tithes knowing those funds go to helping those in need who is DISGRUNTLED by that fact? Honestly, the amount of scoffing going on here at religiously-oriented charitable giving is making me embarrassed to admit my lack of faith.
I’m still disappointed, I thought you were sending me a gift
Reality, I meant if you had any questions about my faith. After all our bad times together, the fact that I still talk with you is my gift to you. (:
On a serious note, if you gave me your word that you would faithfully wear a crucifix, I would send one to one of the mods/Jill to pass on to you.
Best not then Praxedes, you know I wouldn’t wear it, particularly ‘faithfully’. The fact is that apart from the sleepers which have been in my earlobes for 37 years, I haven’t worn jewellery or even a watch for several years now. If I received such a gift I would sell it and give the money to charity.
“Why can’t the guys these women sleep with pay for the contraception?” – that’s a bit sexist isn’t it?
X, you make great comments. The best thing about local charitable giving (subsidiarity if I’ve spelled it right), is that it’s democracy in action without the bloated bureaucratic middle man. I know who needs help in my own town. Tax me less and I can help them more. Tax me more and I can help them less. It’s so simple, I can’t believe socialists can’t accept it.
Reality, depression is a disease. Alcoholism is a disease. Abortionism is a disease. I have great news for you: You can recover from it! It’s never too late to embrace life.
And to my abortion advocating friends: Let me see if I get your meme:
If you believe that small human beings are precious and should be nurtured rather than murdered, you must not enjoy sex as much as abortion advocates.
Let’s take your little myth to it’s logical conclusion, shall we: Hypothetical Molly was pro-life. Sometime around age 23, she became convinced that it is acceptable to snuff out a small human being. If abortion advocates’ myth is correct, after becoming pro-abortion, Molly X suddenly finds sex to be even more fun that it was before. How? Tell us, abortionists, how does this work in terms of human physiology? Is her boyfriend suddenly more handsome? Exactly HOW does abortion advocacy make sex more fun? Exactly HOW does loving babies make sex less fun? If you walk down the corridor of a hotel and eavesdrop on couples, can you tell who is pro-life and who is pro-choice? Do you say, “Oh, hear them? They’re too quiet, they must be pro-life. This couple here, they sound like they’re having more fun, they must be pro-choice..”
Tell us please, how does this work?
Please do tell us because we hear this accusation very often.
“Abortionism is a disease” – any legitimate citations for that claim?
Ninek: It’s the idea that a man wouldn’t place the interests of incipient human life above those of his breathing, thinking partner. That he would be willing to work with her and support whichever decision she felt was right for her life situation, her mind, her body.
Oh, and pro-lifers seem to have a weird aversion to birth control. Sorry, but preventing a pregnancy if you feel that you can’t handle it is, in my book, is the epitome of personal responsibility.
Eew. I wouldn’t want to be with a man who saw our child’s life as worth less than mine simply because our child was younger than I am. I have the divorce papers to prove that, too. Being able to cheer me on as I had our child killed makes a dude sound like a scumbag. Not attractive AT ALL.
As far as “…thinking, feeling…”, I’d HOPE that if anything ever happened that caused our child to need life support, that wouldn’t make my partner abandon our child. That also sounds like a huge turn-off.
Yep. I’ve traded up, and between you and me…SEX HAS NEVER BEEN BETTER. Even with my tubes tied! (Yay birth control and personal responsibility!)
Also, thanks, ninek. I know I’ve been pretty harsh on Christians lately, and I have to apologize for that.
Nice dodge, but not really an answer. A man is more attractive to me if he steps up to responsibility, but you didn’t describe how the actual sex is better, so how is it more enjoyable? In scientific, physiological terms. Facts, please.
If by ‘aversion to birth control’ you mean ‘morning after’ type pills that kill embryos, yep, I have an aversion to that. If by ‘aversion’ you mean because it’s elective and I don’t want to pay for yours, then yes I’m as weird as that!
“Why can’t the guys these women sleep with pay for the contraception?” – that’s a bit sexist isn’t it?
No.
The disease of abortionism often follows the disease of selfism and stupidism.
These diseases can be cured if you tell yourself you have denialism and admit you have a problem.
Reality, repeat after me, “Hi, I’m Reality. I’m an abortionholic.”
Now you, Blue Velvet, repeat after me, “Hi, I’m Blue Velvet. I’m an abortionholic.”
Congrats. You have taken the first step. That wasn’t so hard now, was it?
You appear to have major confusion over what constitutes addiction. Some people constantly speed, maybe even you’ve exceeded the speed limit at some stage. Does that make you a speedaholic?
Selfism and stupidism? Can’t say I’ve seen those in the DSM.
So, no legitimate citations for your claim. So they’re not really diseases. Just the wishful thinking of your fervent imagination?
Some people who constantly speed are totally adrenaline junkies. That’s how I drive lol.
I’m so disappointed Jack, you bad, bad person!
165mph does feel good though!
Once I got a ticket for $1500 for going 121mph through a safety corridor. I was cited for reckless driving too. It took me almost three years to pay it off. Whoops.
Ouch!
That’s what I love about bikes. My current bike and the previous couple I owned are all capable of 120 in third gear, with three gears left to go. And the beauty of it is you can get there very quickly and then wash it off real quick too. Less chance of getting caught. I’m also extremely careful about both when and where I do it.
Oh man, I drive like a grandma and always have. I pretty much only ever go 5 miles over the speed limit, max, unless I’m on a long road trip on those long straight highways and then I might go 70 or so. I also HATE when people drive fast on ‘busy’ residential roads, like the wider roads that go through suburbs and all the little cul de sacs feed off of them. The speed limit is like 30mph and people invariably go 50 because it’s wide and straight and just a place you need to get through to get home, but that IS someone’s home! You are really only about 30′ from the most precious things in some people’s lives! :shakes fist:
I always think it’s weird how much more strictly we take safety regulations for things that are way less dangerous than driving. Like, when I’m running shows (ie as a stagehand), and we have scenery stored up overhead hanging on chain motors, bringing those motors in is a routine that you can never deviate from. You have to call out (even quietly, during the show), “7 coming in” or whichever motor # you’re bringing, check that the area is clear, and bring them in; if someone catches you not watching/spotting it the entire trip down, then you will get a talking to. Same process reversed to bring them back out again. This is for something that usually weighs less than a car does and goes, per industry standard, at about 16 or 32 feet per minute; and moreover does it in the exact same path at the exact same time every single night, surrounded by the exact same people.
Oh, but those same guys who would be stunned to see someone just carelessly start slooooooowly bringing the chain motors in will barrel down the highway later on that night cutting people off or whatever. :shakes fist again:
Parking lots are probably my biggest area of rage. I always want to be like DUDE it’s not a highway, there are people walking and pulling out, etc, can’t you just take 45 seconds of your life to slow down a little bit? :shakes fist like a polaroid picture:
I was like this even in high school. I never really had any hope of being cool.
Some people constantly speed, maybe even you’ve exceeded the speed limit at some stage. Does that make you a speedaholic?
If you consistently speed in areas that puts others’ lives at risk, I think this is an example of selfism and does make you a speedaholic. If you want to go 120 mph in an area okayed for this, more power to you. Then the only one you can hurt is yourself. If you are not a trained race car driver, I think you have stupidism though.
When I was younger I did speed at times, never much more than 65. Insurance rates reflect that speeding is statistically a young man’s game. I also got behind the wheel a handful of times when I had too much to drink. Looking back, I can see how arrogant my thinking was. Who was I to put innocent people’s lives at risk? Similar to abortionholics, I didn’t realize what a gift life is and took mine and others’ for granted.
“If by ‘aversion to birth control’ you mean ‘morning after’ type pills that kill embryos, yep, I have an aversion to that.”
Get a freaking life.
Get a freaking life.
I see someone got up on the wrong side of the snake pit.
Get a freaking life.
Stop taking them.
What does trolling people who allegedely have no lives say about the troll?
Update on this for those still subscribed…a federal judge agreed and rejected the Hobby Lobby suit.
Judge said in his ruling: “Plaintiffs have not cited, and the court has not found, any case concluding that secular, for-profit corporations such as Hobby Lobby and Mardel have a constitutional right to the free exercise of religion,”