Obama’s worldview on women “echoes Playboy”
If Barack Obama really does think his ad’s messages are cool, he’s revealing more about the way he thinks of women than he may realize….
I mean, we’re worried about losing our jobs and borrowing money from China, and Obama responds with a sexually oriented ad, aimed at women, joking about how “doing it” with him is “amazing.”
This attitude goes beyond the Lena Dunham ad. Take a gander at the Obama campaign’s “women’s issues” page; it’s almost entirely about birth control and abortion…..
It’s ironic that the worldview of Obama, who calls himself a Christian, so closely echoes that of the Playboy Foundation, which, like the president, has always gotten enthusiastically behind free birth control and abortion on demand. We know why Playboy does it — the organization views women as sex objects. Birth control removes the last argument women might offer against pressure to engage in sex with “a great guy” who claims to “understand women.” And abortion turns women into REUSABLE sex objects. But Mr. President — what’s your excuse?…
That’s why, when I go to the polling station in a few days and pull back the curtain, like Lena Dunham, I’m going to vote for the candidate who really cares about and understands women. News flash: It won’t be anyone who views women as sex objects — or sells himself as one.
~ Anne Morse, BreakPoint, October 30
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I think she’s right on some points. I have never met a woman, even a pro-choice Obama supporter, who *only* cares about bc and abortion, to the point of not even caring about other issues. It’s stupid, and I think it will backfire on him to focus his campaigning towards women like that.
Contraception doesn’t remove the “argument” women “need” to refuse sex. ”I don’t want to,” is all that is “needed.” Women don’t need “arguments” to refuse sex. If they did, the laws against rape wouldn’t apply to women who are post-menopausal! But they do. Women who can’t get pregnant have the same right of refusal as those who are fertile. ”I don’t feel like it” or “I’ve got a headache” haven’t disappeared because of contraception.
Women who are obviously pregnant can be viewed as sex objects!!! They are sometimes featured in men’s magazines. ”Two and a Half Men” did an episode on pregnancy fetishism.
Denise, you’re naive. Of course women don’t LEGALLY need an argument, to refuse sex – it’s about psychology, the fact that men pressure and cajole women into having sex, even if they don’t REALLY want it. They might still want to keep ‘the guy’.
No big surprise the way he views women.
I mean look at how he views babies.
Bravo Anne Morse!
j.p. says:
November 1, 2012 at 9:46 am
Denise, you’re naive. Of course women don’t LEGALLY need an argument, to refuse sex – it’s about psychology, the fact that men pressure and cajole women into having sex, even if they don’t REALLY want it. They might still want to keep ‘the guy’.
(Denise) The Pill, Norplant, and Depo-Provera did not eliminate the headache.
My asexual sterile friend isn’t sexually active.
If women sacrifice themselves to “keep the guy,” the rad-fems have done a very poor job of sowing discord between the sexes.
Seems like a fair assessment of the Obama campaign.
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-a-mormon-should-not-be-president-2012-10
I disagree that Romney cares about women. He only cares about getting elected.
Birth control and abortion do not make women sex objects, nor does it remove the argument from them having sex. It allows them sexual and reproductive freedom. and it does NOT remove the last argument against having sex with a guy. That makes absolutely NO sense. THERE IS NO ARGUMENT NEEDED. NO MEANS NO.
I’m not currently on birth control, but I have been (heathen, I know!) and I never felt like I was pressured to have sex. That is actually the dumbest argument I ever heard. I had sex with WHO I wanted to and was being safe about it.
So tolerance doesn’t apply to Mormons or something, I see.
Meg, birth control and abortion further subject women to being used by men who bear no consequence when the birth control fails, and men who can coerce the woman into an abortion, or just walk away and leave her to handle everything alone. It protects men, but not women. Sexual and reproductive freedom is the biggest crock of baloney ever served up to women. 40 years of abortion has done nothing to make women free or empowered or equal to men. The liberal feminist creed is bull.
When there’s no respect for life, no reverence for sex, no foundation of marriage FIRST, men and women lose. And babies lose their lives.
Sexual and reproductive freeeeeeeeeeedom? LOL
Does that include abortion as well?
Cause I gotta tell ya killing my daughter via abortion NEVER brought sexual or reproductive freedom.
Death and devastation? Oh yeah. That is all it brought.
Hey Jen, have you ever thought that maybe not all women have your same values with regards to marriage and sex? I personally enjoy sex with guys I’m not married to. In fact, I have never been married. I have a lot of respect for myself and my body. So while you think birth control makes women “lose”, you should probably realize many women don’t have the same values as you. If you don’t believe in birth control, more power to you! But don’t overgeneralize and act like women lose when they become sexually empowered. Some of us like it, quite a bit.
I don’t understand your first argument either, Jen. How does having birth control allow all those things to happen? Not having birth control could also allow a woman to become pregnant and used by a man or left alone to deal with it all by herself.
Couples who practice Natural Family Planning together have the lowest divorce rate of any other demographic. It allows women to decide when to have sex during their most fertile day or not, without damage to her uterus (IUD’s) or her blood vessels and more (birth control pills and shots). In a society where people are picky about drinking from plastic bottles or additives in their food, aren’t women a wee bit reckless with the birth control products? I think so. It reveals a disconnect, doesn’t it?
Condoms are probably the least risky in terms of what it does not do to a couples physical bodies, but even so:
many partners think that because they TRIED to prevent conception using condoms, that now they are entitled to an abortion. This is why contraception and it’s mindset can be very damaging to families as well as women’s bodies. Women deserve better than to be marketed products aimed at stifling their bodies’ natural proceses.
But what’s even more noteworthy about today’s quote is this: back when Gloria Steinem donned a pair of ears and served drinks at a Playboy club, she complained bitterly and those of us old enough to remember know all about it. But Playboy makes substantial financial contributions to the abortion industry and Planned Parenthood. And it’s funny how “modern” women now see sexual exploitation as “liberated” and treating women with modesty and respect as “backward” and “controlling.” Ladies, you got some serious thinking to do.
“many partners think that because they TRIED to prevent conception using condoms, that now they are entitled to an abortion. This is why contraception and it’s mindset can be very damaging to families as well as women’s bodies.”
And there are also a ton of us that have used condoms or other forms of contraception our entire sexually active lives and would never dream of wanting or obtaining an abortion, ever.
Ninek — data involving divorce rates and contraception are bound to be incredibly skewed. People who practice natural family planning are more likely to be very religious, and religious people are more likely to stay away from divorce since it has nasty implications.
I am pretty sure many women are extremely conscious of what birth control does to their body. Did you know birth control is actually recommended for certain medical issues? Science!
I feel liberated because I am NOT being exploited. You think I am being exploited, because God, I clearly can’t enjoy sex.
“So tolerance doesn’t apply to Mormons or something, I see.”
Yes, that’s right. And the author explains why.
WOW! This man is PSYCHOLOGICALLY INSANE! What he thinks is in the best interest of America, is not! He is a disgrace to every woman in America or on this planet. I would think the women’s movement would fire his butt for being such a SCHMUCK!!!! This man needs a new job! He is UNFIT!!! YES!!! UNFIT to run America FOREVER!!!! He can run for President for Playboy! I’m sure Hefner wouldn’t mind since they have the same way of thinking about women!!!!!!!
ninek: But what’s even more noteworthy about today’s quote is this: back when Gloria Steinem donned a pair of ears and served drinks at a Playboy club, she complained bitterly and those of us old enough to remember know all about it. But Playboy makes substantial financial contributions to the abortion industry and Planned Parenthood. And it’s funny how “modern” women now see sexual exploitation as “liberated” and treating women with modesty and respect as “backward” and “controlling.” Ladies, you got some serious thinking to do.
(Denise) There are valid reasons to be suspicious of the motives of pornographers. It is unlikely they do very much out of sheer goodness of heart or altruism.
Meg, what will you do when you have that first pregnancy scare? We gals have all had them….As a former slut (and by this I mean, I used to have sex with guys because I enjoyed it, and I deserve whatever is pleasurable to me), I had my first bad scare in college. I will never forget it, and I don’t wish it on anyone. Birth control fails. Hotness fades. And what are you left with? Yourself, a reusable sex object.
You are living in la-la land if you think men and women view sex the same or (wait for it) EVER WILL. This has nothing to do with God, so nice try with the religious argument. We all (or most of us) enjoy the sex—the problem is, we misuse it when, in order to experience it, we pump our bodies full of chemicals and kills our children so we can experience it again.
This long legged, on the down low, mac daddy [to quote african american pastor James David Manning] is not a sexual threat to women, but your grand father may be in jeopardy.
The eye candy man prefers his men white haired and white skinned.
What do elective abortion and homosexuality have in common?
b o
What is the difference between a bag of manure and b o?
1. Filling, distributing, and selling bag of manure creates job.
2. The manure actually stimulates growth.
3. The bag of manure does not bow to foreign leaders.
4. The point of origin for the bag of manure is easliy determined.
5. The bag of manure does not pretend to be any thing other than what it is.
“It’s stupid, and I think it will backfire on b o to focus his campaigning towards women like that.”
JB,
The fundamental flaw in your premise is you under estimate the gullability and myopia of b o’s target audience of liberal feministas.
Hey Jen, have you ever thought that maybe not all women have your same values with regards to marriage and sex?
Hey Meg, have you ever thought that maybe not all people want to pay for your missing values with regards to marriage and sex?
As a former slut
LOL Can we start a club? Former Sluts R Us. Current sluts need not apply.
I’m 54 years old and a grandmother. Does Obama consider that there are millions of women out there, like myself, for whom birth control is not a major issue? What does he have to offer us?
If the perception is that only religious people use NFP, does that mean that we need to get the info out to women that there is a better way to manage their sexual activity than to ingest chemicals or be fitted with dangerous devices? Ohh, yes!!
JackB, your comment and the so-far 8 likes that go with it: very encouraging!! I have no problem with the use of condoms because they are physically safer than chemicals and devices. However, I agree wholeheartedly that even if you use contraception, you should be welcoming of new life. Babies don’t deserve to be snuffed because their parents are unwilling to raise them. Babies, at all stages of development, have a right to their own lives.
“I’m 54 years old and a grandmother. Does Obama consider that there are millions of women out there, like myself, for whom birth control is not a major issue? What does he have to offer us? “
Oh, I don’t know. Peace, economic growth, equal pay for women, killing terrorists, competence in the face of natural disaster, decreasing dependence on foreign oil, saving the auto industry, regulating credit card companies, protecting your right to get insurance despite preexisting conditions, increased fuel efficiency of autos, saving money on student loans, more respect in the international community, better judicial appointments? Things like that.
““So tolerance doesn’t apply to Mormons or something, I see.”
Yes, that’s right. And the author explains why.”
I read the article. I think it’s fairly bigoted. I don’t really judge people based on what religion they belong to if I can help it, and I personally think that Mormonism is pretty crazy stuff but most Mormons I have ever met are actually extremely nice people.
Jack, I have met some very nice Mormons also. In fact, I’m pretty good friends with one, he even sent me a Book of Mormon once to help me through some tough times. The article did help me understand how Romney could just make stuff up so easily and not seem constrained by facts or truth.
Lol, Romney can make stuff up like that because he’s a politician. That article wants to blame it on his religion, which I think is basically playing to the “Mormons are nuts” feeling that a lot of people have. All politicians lie, no matter what religion they claim to be.
And I’m not defending Romney, I really don’t like the dude, but to act like he is some special class of politician that can “just make stuff up so easily and not seem constrained by facts or truth. ” because of his religion is just silly.
I totally agree, ninek (and Jack!). Just because a couple uses contraception (I do in my marriage – non hormonal), does not mean that if they do have a baby unplanned they will instantly kill the child.
I think the problem isn’t contraception itself, but rather a broader selfish mentality in our culture. It’s not so much the contraception mentality as it is the selfish, me-first, my dreams or nothing mentality.
Yeah, Hal, that international community just respects the heck out of us.
Hi JackBorsch! No, my ears weren’t burning. I have popped my head into the shadow palace every week or two to see what the insane clown posse is up to and the other day just happened to see my monicker mentioned. Life has been all-consuming in recent times but is returning to an even keel. Apart from continued deterioration of my skeleto-muscular system I am fine. I hope you are hale and hearty! I shall return soon.
Haha great points Jack. Has Hal seen Obama debate? Or Biden, for that matter? He makes stuff up on the fly all the time. Most politicians do. And Romney’s no worse than the others in the BS department. :)
Hal, give me a break. Obama is not offering peace or any of the other “benefits” you claim in your response to Phillymiss.
Glad life is returning to normal for ya Reality, and sorry about your health problems, I wasn’t aware. See you around soon!
Courtnay: “You are living in la-la land if you think men and women view sex the same or (wait for it) EVER WILL.”
You don’t seem to have too high an opinion of men. Isn’t it a little pathetic that women can supposedly only demand respect from men when all “temptation,” i.e. contraception, is removed from the picture?
Libertybelle: “Personal responsibility,” the right’s most cherished virtue, is really just a euphemism for the “selfish, me-first, my dreams or nothing mentality.” By preventing pregnancy, lots of people are trying really hard to be fiscally responsible. Condoms and pills cost way less than children, unless you want to follow some old crackerjack advice about raising kids in cloth diapers and everybody sleeping in one big bed, blah blah blah.
Blue velvet,
Well no, personal responsibility isn’t *my* most cherished virtue (how do you know I’m on the right?). Compassion is. And if you cared to read my comments, I’m not against contraception. I’m saying it’s not bad, not in and of itself (though I do think hormonal contraception is expensive and harsh on the woman’s body, therefore I don’t use it).
So how do you explain the mentality of a couple who, though they were trying to prevent a pregnancy through condom use of whatever, conceives anyway. But then they kill the child. Is that not selfish of the parents? Children are expensive, yes, but the cost should never be more important than the innocent child’s life.
Meh, I don’t see it as a ‘health problem’ Jack, just the condition that I happen to be in that is an element of my life.
I’m ‘hearing’ some attitudes here which appear to align with the claims of some cultures that if women aren’t clad from head to toe then men can’t be responsible for what might happen.
Every human being deserves his or her own life. Pro-life 100% without exceptions. **dodges shoe**
“**dodges shoe**”
:)
Hey Jen, have you ever thought that maybe not all women have your same values with regards to marriage and sex? I personally enjoy sex with guys I’m not married to. In fact, I have never been married. I have a lot of respect for myself and my body. So while you think birth control makes women “lose”, you should probably realize many women don’t have the same values as you. If you don’t believe in birth control, more power to you! But don’t overgeneralize and act like women lose when they become sexually empowered. Some of us like it, quite a bit.
I don’t understand your first argument either, Jen. How does having birth control allow all those things to happen? Not having birth control could also allow a woman to become pregnant and used by a man or left alone to deal with it all by herself.
Yes, Meg, I’m well aware that many women do not share my values regarding marriage and sex and babies. That’s painfully obvious to anyone with a pulse. I don’t buy for one second that crap about sexual promiscuity making a woman sexually “empowered.” I don’t believe that a woman with a long history of sexual partners feels great about herself, or feels “empowered.” Being some guy’s sexual satisfaction without any of the protection and genuine love that comes from a good marriage is not proof of women’s liberation or empowerment. Having some so-called “right” to dismember and kill your baby in the womb is certainly not evidence of a woman’s empowerment.
Take a look at what has happened to marriage, to relationships, to men and women in general as people, and especially to children, and tell me the sexual revolution was a resounding success. Tell me that the Pill and abortion have given nothing but great fruits for women and society. BULL. The carnage of families all around us proves you wrong.
That’s what comes of separating sex from it’s procreative purpose. That’s what comes of demanding sex without the commitment of marriage first. That’s what comes of promiscuity that’s labeled “empowerment.” Broken families, children without fathers, women bearing the entire burden of childrearing alone, and a welfare nation.
Just give a woman a Pill or a diaphragm and then use her any way you want. Go ahead, try and tell me it hasn’t further reduced women to sexual objects rather than someone precious to be protected and cherished. I don’t believe you.
@ Jen: Did the Pill abolish the headache?
Remember Planned Parenthood’s tag “Vote like your lady parts depend on it”? They and Obama are so intertwine; it is sickening.
Wow, I sure hope that Hal is getting paid well to prostitute himself for Obama even to the point of arbitrary religious bigotry. Mormons are liars, so they can’t be politicians? Ha. Might as well have been written by Jack Chick.
Anyway, we know that Sen. Menendez didn’t pay his hookers the agreed upon price. Did you get the money upfront, Hal?
Oh, what sweet hope … To never have to accidentally see/hear President Obama insult my intelligence again!
He just can’t stay away from sleaze can he. Obama and his nasty ways will be gone in 4 days God willing! And none to soon for me.
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Couples who practice Natural Family Planning together have the lowest divorce rate of any other demographic.
Yes, but that is the effect not the cause. People who have very high social function are going to have lots of good outcomes, like good relationships, lasting marriages, good job performance etc. People who are low social functioning are the ones with unhealthy relationships, unstable lives etc. The birth control thing is always an appeal to eugenics. Face it, people who use Natural Family planning match the description of “fit” whereas single people with many partners more closely match the description of “unfit”. Sorry to be so blunt. Remember, fit = more surviving children. Those who don’t want more children, by Darwin’s definition are “unfit” in the biological sense. That is not the same as the popular meaning.
“Wow, I sure hope that Hal is getting paid well to prostitute himself for Obama even to the point of arbitrary religious bigotry.”
I’m not getting paid. I do it for love. And the President certainly doesn’t share my views on this. My religious bigotry is not arbitrary. It applies to all religions. But, some seem a bit worse than others.
Hal: “I disagree that Romney cares about women. He only cares about getting elected.”
And Obama would mince neonates in a food processor on an altar during a black mass if he wasn’t worried about getting caught trying it in the oval office.
So let’s see, where have these kinds of idiotic remarks gotten you and me just now?
Rasqual, I really believe there’s very little chance of a politician running for office in the Western hemisphere actually caring about anything but the election results. Am I too cynical?
Exactly. Thanks, LibertyBelle. There can be a vast difference between social trends and what someone believes for his/her personal situation. I still say that as long as you’re not killing another human (and being a good parent), that’s all that’s required of you.
And seriously, while it may be the wish of many (even most?) women, not every woman wants all sex to be within the parameters of marriage. How can anyone categorize half the population of this planet that way? I wouldn’t dream of trying to make someone accept my view of sexuality as applicable to all women, because that would just be such a useless generalization.
Don’t tell my husband, but I had a few relationships before him, and they had value in my life. (Actually, you can tell him because he already knows and understands.)
” And seriously, while it may be the wish of many (even most?) women, not every woman wants all sex to be within the parameters of marriage. How can anyone categorize half the population of this planet that way? I wouldn’t dream of trying to make someone accept my view of sexuality as applicable to all women, because that would just be such a useless generalization.”
Yup. And not all men are just sluts who are only held back from sex by the will of a virtuous woman, which is always the insinuation I see in these kind of threads. Men only want sex and will be d-bags to get it, women only want relationships and if she ends up sleeping around she must be getting used. It’s a little much.
I agree, Jack, and I expect a lot of men resent the implications about them there too.
The Anti-Sexual Stronghold was founded by a man, Yuri Nesterenko. He is a friend of mine. About half the people in that group are men.
Yuri is in his mid-30s and is a virgin. He has every intention of dying a virgin since he doesn’t want to sire a baby. If he did wish to sire a baby, he would only have as much sex as necessary to impregnate.
His group accepts the minimal level of sexual activity that is necessary to maintain population.
@Denise: I don’t understand why you keep bringing that up… the guy obviously has some issues and nothing to offer to the discussion
Reality
Sorry to hear about your health challenges if you don’t mind I will pray for you.
@Laura: I know Yuri pretty well and he isn’t burdened with issues. He is a very rational person. He wants other people to be rational as well and put that which is distinctively human above passions.
Yuri hasn’t impregnated a woman who aborted. He hasn’t spread an STD. He doesn’t moan and whine with unrequited love.
He is also another case of a man getting along just perfectly sans sex.