Pro-life blog buzz 3-8-13
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- Pro-Life Action League reports on a huge free speech victory for pro-lifers in Rockford, Illinois, home of the infamously profane (and thankfully, now closed) Northern Illinois Women’s Center:
The settlement comes after more than five years of federal litigation stemming from harassment of pro-life individuals and other federal civil rights violations on the part of some members of the Rockford Police Department.As part of the terms of the settlement, Rockford police officers will be required to attend a training program on citizens’ First Amendment rights, with the specific aim of preventing wrongful arrest of citizens for taking part in constitutionally-protected activities.
- According to Culture Campaign, the House voted yesterday to “[pass] the ‘continuing resolution’ (CR) legislation to fund the budgetless federal government for the rest of the fiscal year including funding for ObamaCare to force Christians to fund abortifacients, sterilization, contraceptives, etc. Fourteen Republicans voted against the bill.”
- Down on the Pharm says another company, Sioux Chief Manufacturing, has won an injunction against Obamacare’s HHS contraceptive mandate. That makes 12 victories against the mandate so far.
- At Live Action, Rebecca Downs notes that even Planned Parenthood is objecting to the new NYC teen pregnancy prevention campaign featuring questionable ads, saying the signs create “hostility” toward teen pregnancy and provide little more than “shock value.”
- Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life writes that the Minnesota House has passed an amendment to remove abortion coverage from the state’s Obamacare exchanges.
- Euthanasia Prevention Coalition shares a letter from a former Montana senator who points out that since assisted suicide became legal in Oregon, the overall suicide rates in the state have increased greatly, with the rate now 35% above the national average.
- Jivin J says a judge has overturned Idaho’s 20-week pain-capable abortion law.
- Clinic Quotes provides a heartbreaking 2005 statement from a Chinese abortionist describing her experience with infanticide:
The child was alive after the abortion…. [Another doctor] got a bucket of water and put the child into it… [for] about half an hour…. But the child got back its breath again and burst into crying. The life force of the child was too indomitable…. She then fill the washing basin in the room, which was bigger than the bucket, and put the child into the water again for another half an hour.After all this, I did not use the washing basin for a long time. For a long time, I felt terrible.
- Big Blue Wave highlights a video about little Elijah Leffingwell, who had “a complex, high-risk operation that required taking Elijah partly out of his mother’s womb just halfway through her pregnancy [and] then remov[ing] a mass the size of an orange from Elijah’s lung:
Isn’t it in fact true that babies born to teenaged mothers tend to be disadvantaged?
Aren’t there many negatives that are statistically linked to being born to a teenaged mother?
Should we be hiding from facts?
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Those stats are indeed accurate. We should not give up on abstinence and hopefully these will encourage teens to consider that sex is not worth the risk. Also, adoption should be considered since over 2 MM couples are waiting to adopt.
when a teen becomes pregnant,these are the stats of choice…. single parenting 50-55% , abortion, 30-35% and adoption is less than 1%.
Why is adoption less than 1%. We must change the way we view adoption and mothers who choose adoption.
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Susie Allen says:
March 8, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Those stats are indeed accurate. We should not give up on abstinence and hopefully these will encourage teens to consider that sex is not worth the risk. Also, adoption should be considered since over 2 MM couples are waiting to adopt. when a teen becomes pregnant,these are the stats of choice…. single parenting 50-55% , abortion, 30-35% and adoption is less than 1%.
(Denise) There are some very negative statistics connected to adoption.
<<Why is adoption less than 1%. We must change the way we view adoption and mothers who choose adoption.>>
(Denise) Even if a pregnant girl or woman plans to place for adoption, she might change her mind after she gives birth. The process of carrying for 9 months and giving birth might automatically link mother and child. Adoptive mother Nancy Verrier has written a book about this called “Primal Wound: Understanding the Adopted Child.”
We don’t need to encourage abortion or adoption but wanted pregnancies — among those who are mature and happily married.
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Sure, Denise, you keep it up. Meanwhile, as long as abortion is legal, even wanted babies will continue to be aborted “on demand and without apology.”
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Those statistics may be true but it stigmatizes the teen parents doing the best job they can. I’m a teen mothe. And while we aren’t rich, my husband and I are doing alright.our son is doing just fine development wise and I have no doubt in my mind that he will be spectacular in whatever he does. Programs to encourage teen moms to finish education, and spiritual support are needed. As well as abstinence programs
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Denise, I appreciate many of your comments.
But, because I do not hide from stats, I also notice that many threads are derailed because you insist on making anti-adoption comments a priority. Your MO seems to be to immediately jump in on a thread, and most often when adoption issues are not the main topic.
This is really aggravating for several other commenters who share the combox with you. I think you know this.
For the sake of those who value staying on-topic,
may I ask you to consider limiting your anti-adoption comments to once a week or so?
If you were to limit your comments on what comes off as a sort of fixation, I think more people would consider your views.
All this fwiw, and intending no disrespectect to you. :)
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Big Blue Wave
Goodness, i hope they got the right tumor.
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U-104, it took me a minute. But that was very funny!!!
I wonder if the irony hit any pro-abortion medical staff, etc.
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ninek says:
March 8, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Sure, Denise, you keep it up. Meanwhile, as long as abortion is legal, even wanted babies will continue to be aborted “on demand and without apology.”
(Denise) I believe Forced Information is the first step toward outlawing abortion. If made illegal now, you would just have massive underground abortion. Under Forced Information, many girls and women who would abort will decide to carry to term and give birth. This will greatly lower the abortion rate.
AFTER it is lowered, it might be feasible to outlaw it and expect the law to actually do something.
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Mary Ann says:
March 8, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Denise, I appreciate many of your comments.But, because I do not hide from stats, I also notice that many threads are derailed because you insist on making anti-adoption comments a priority. Your MO seems to be to immediately jump in on a thread, and most often when adoption issues are not the main topic.
(Denise) I don’t bring up adoption. Others bring up adoption and I respond. They have a kind of adoption-to-the-rescue attitude. This attitude is misguided. Adoption is available and is extremely unpopular. There are very good, biologically based reasons why it is so unpopular. Some posters seem to think abortion will stop when thundering multitudes of girls and women have babies and place them for adoption. That will never happen. It is POSSIBLE that adoption will become more popular when it becomes feasible to transplant embryos and fetuses from one womb to another. However, with present technology, adoption will not do much to decrease abortion.
I do want to decrease abortion. But adoption isn’t going to do that.
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ninek says:
March 8, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Sure, Denise, you keep it up. Meanwhile, as long as abortion is legal, even wanted babies will continue to be aborted “on demand and without apology.”
(Denise) Do you believe that hiding truths about adoption, single motherhood, and teenaged motherhood is necessary to decrease abortion?
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Omg the story about the infanticide…*shudder* how eeeeevil!
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Would any pro abort here be okay with someone drowning you? If not why not?
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Hey guys,
I’m looking around for good pro-life awareness projects to donate to that are still active. I used to donate to the Center for Bioethical Reform, but they seem to have closed down. I also give to abort73.com. I tend to like more secular organizations with well-constructed arguments, so that they appeal to everyone. Which projects do you favor?
Thanks!
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SecularProLife.Org!! ^_^
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Soooo … wait … Little Elijah went from non-person to a person and back to non-person again!?
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I used to donate to the Center for Bioethical Reform, but they seem to have closed down.
What makes you say that?
You should consider Justice for All (jfaweb.org), Life Training Institute (prolifetraining.com), Right to Life of Central California (prolifepodcast.net), and Created Equal (createdequal.net).
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What difference does it make it teen moms have a tough time? Older moms have their own tough times, moms who lose their husbands have a tough time..even people who try to keep it altogether are having a tough time. i have never seen anyone here glamorize parenthood. isn’t it preferable to allow ALL babies to live? It is.
Denise, with all do respect, keeping abortion legal to prevent a black market underground abortion situation…is a pro-choice, pro-abortion argument.
The sooner it’s illegal, the sooner even more lives will be saved. Saving lives, not accommodating pro-choicers, get it?
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meant “if” but edit won’t work
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We need to do more to encourage abstinence. I saw members of a “Virginity Club” on TV. You can only join if you have never had either vaginal or anal sex. They have social events for virgins only. There should be more clubs like this one.
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ninek says:
March 10, 2013 at 2:49 pm
What difference does it make it teen moms have a tough time? Older moms have their own tough times, moms who lose their husbands have a tough time..even people who try to keep it altogether are having a tough time. i have never seen anyone here glamorize parenthood. isn’t it preferable to allow ALL babies to live? It is.
(Denise) Isn’t it BEST for those who get pregnant not to be single teenagers but to be happily married women who are financially stable and who want to have babies?
Aren’t babies much more likely to enjoy good upbringings if they are born to happily married couples rather than unwed teen girls?
Indeed, aren’t pregnancies much more likely to be carried to term if the female getting pregnant is an adult woman in a financially stable and happy marriage rather than a girl in high school or even junior high school?
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ninek says:
March 10, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Denise, with all do respect, keeping abortion legal to prevent a black market underground abortion situation…is a pro-choice, pro-abortion argument.
(Denise) It might have been a mistake to legalize it but legalized it was. The first step is to promote widespread rejection in girls and women. By forcing them to view what an embryo or fetus looks like at the stage of pregnancy an abortion-seeking female is at, we will promote disgust and abortion rejection.
<<The sooner it’s illegal, the sooner even more lives will be saved. Saving lives, not accommodating pro-choicers, get it?>>
(Denise) We also need to be more active in discouraging the type of sexual activity that can lead to pregnancy at least in those who are fertile and not looking to get pregnant. This sort of activity in elderly women is less of a concern.
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The point is what is in the best interest of the child not the mom with all due respect. Stats show that the child does best in a married mommy \daddy home. Yes, some single moms do a great job but that does not mean that the missing parent is not needed. They do the best they can. But I want to point out that less than 1 % choose adoption. Why??? Because we have outdated views and language denigrating adoption and make mothers who make an adoption plan out to be the bad one? Women will feel that it is better to abort than to make an adoption plan for their baby. Examine your adoption language and your feelings about birth mothers. They are not selfish. They are brave, loving and selfless. It is not easy to put the best interest of others over yourself.
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Susie Allen says:
March 11, 2013 at 8:29 am
The point is what is in the best interest of the child not the mom with all due respect. Stats show that the child does best in a married mommy \daddy home. Yes, some single moms do a great job but that does not mean that the missing parent is not needed. They do the best they can. But I want to point out that less than 1 % choose adoption. Why??? Because we have outdated views and language denigrating adoption and make mothers who make an adoption plan out to be the bad one?>>
(Denise) There may be other reasons adoption is unpopular. Right now, it CANNOT be done pre-natally: an embryo or fetus can’t be transplanted from one womb to another. Thus, a female must carry for 9 months and give birth. This process forms a very powerful bond on both sides. Mother and newborn are automatically attached to each other. Adoptive mother Nancy Verrier has written about this in a book entitled “Primal Wound: Understanding the Adopted Child.”
Carla forbids me to “rant” against adoption by quoting statistical truths regarding adoptees. However, like single motherhood, adoption has many statistically linked negatives. You can look these up yourself.
<<Women will feel that it is better to abort than to make an adoption plan for their baby. Examine your adoption language and your feelings about birth mothers. They are not selfish. They are brave, loving and selfless. It is not easy to put the best interest of others over yourself.>>
(Denise) Many adoptees express the profound wish that their birthmothers had raised them. keepyourbaby.com is by birthmothers who believe they were exploited and adoptees who believe their birthmothers should have kept them. They believe the best interests of mother and child is served be maintaining the bond that formed in the womb.
“But adoption is better than abortion.” These aren’t really the choices. No one can sign a binding agreement to place for adoption until she has given birth. The vast majority of those who carry to term and give birth will want to raise their babies even if they planned to place for adoption during the pregnancy. Some would-be adoptive parents feel they got the shaft because they financially supported a pregnant woman who decided to raise after she gave birth.
I was recently interviewed for a documentary and discussed adoption at length in that documentary. It was about how adoption contributed to something very “anti-life.”
If you are really serious about promoting adoption and believe it is a good thing, consider my proposal to make it the norm. Women who go into hospitals to give birth will be randomly assigned a baby. Thus, they will go home with babies other ladies have carried and given birth to. This will mean people will have good perceptions of both adoptive and birthmothers since the vast majority of people will be raised by adoptive mothers who are also birthmothers.
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Shelbi,
I have 4 I regularly give to.
Citizens for a Pro Life Society
67919 Eight Mile Rd.
South Lyon, MI 48178
Expectant Mother Care
914-224-5773
P.O. Box 134
Bronx, NY 10470
Live Action
323-454-3304
2200 Wilson Blvd
Suite 102, PMB 111
Arlington, VA 22201 – 3224
Students for Life in America
571-379-7261
PO Box 1832
Merrifield, VA 22116 – 9879
In case you’re interested. ;)
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Maybe if one, just one, of our commentors had grown up in an adoptive family, her birth mother might not have had the obviously devastating influence on her mental health. Mental health is no joke. We are encouraged to be physically healthy, but somehow people often ignore and don’t try to improve their own mental health. It is often something that can be improved. But nothing will improve if someone doesn’t want to. If someone willfully wishes to remain unhealthy, there’s nothing we can do. Except pray, if we’re religious.
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ninek says:
March 11, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Maybe if one, just one, of our commentors had grown up in an adoptive family, her birth mother might not have had the obviously devastating influence on her mental health.
(Denise) I probably would not be mentally ill had I grown up closer to my Dad than my Mom. My mother and I were an especially bad “fit” as I have a high native intelligence and the smarter someone is, the more troubled by contradictions and confusions. Her own mother raised her with contradictions which made her somewhat stupid but not crazy because her mind is naturally more simple than mine.
My Dad is smarter and less confused so he would have been a better influence.
It IS possible I wouldn’t be sick if I had been adopted by an intelligent and healthy Mom. However, as awful as my natural mother is in many ways, I probably would have still missed her because there is a biological tie. Given my natural gift of imagination, a CLOSED adoption could easily have resulted in another type of mental disorder.
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Do you think being pro-life is, in and of itself, ill?
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