Planned Parenthood lying about ability to “provide appropriate care” to abortion survivors
UPDATE 1:25: LifeNews.com has the complete statement, which reiterates that Planned Parenthood is capable of “providing emergency care,” which is again, false, unless PP is equipped to treat preemies.
12:28p: In follow-up to Florida Planned Parenthood lobbyist Alisa LaPolt Snow’s shocking contention last week that the fate of abortion survivors should be left to “the woman, her family, and the physician,” Planned Parenthood gave Sean Hannity this statement yesterday:
In the extremely unlikely event that the scenario presented by the panel of legislators should happen, of course Planned Parenthood would provide appropriate care to both the woman and the infant.
That Planned Parenthood responded at all means the heat brought on by Snow’s statements condoning infanticide became intolerable. PP’s preferred response is to ignore bad press, such as is often seen when Live Action releases a new exposé.
That aside, PP’s statement contradicts Snow’s repeated claim to different lines of questioning that the decision whether an abortion survivor lives or dies should be up to the mother and doctor, both of whom are invested in the latter outcome.
In addition, it would not be possible for any PP to “provide appropriate care to… the infant” unless it had neonatal resuscitation equipment, meds, and personnel trained to provide emergency care to preemies, which I happen to know is no easy task. I’m confident no PP in the U.S. has a neonatal crash cart (above right) and nursing staff certified in Neonatal Advanced Life Support. Click to enlarge sample algorithm…
This brings me to a suggestion I’ve made for several years that, in follow-up to state and federal Born Alive laws, legislators should propose a law requiring abortion clinics that commit late-term abortions to have neonatal resuscitation equipment on the premises, which would also have to include a baby warmer (left), and personnel trained in neonatal resuscitation.
Florida legislators should immediately add this amendment to HB1129.
Planned Parenthood has now hemmed itself in on this, making it nearly impossible to oppose such an amendment, since it has implied it already has such mechanisms in place.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
It’s too bad Planned Parenthood is so tied to abortion. To get out of all of this absolute mess and pretzels they twist themselves in, all they have to do is stop killing babies, none of their “mission” to provide women with health care and sex-ed would be endangered. It’s easy to not kill a baby, I’ve done it my entire life. I’m doing it right now, it’s effortless.
legislators should propose a law requiring abortion clinics that commit late-term abortions to have neonatal resuscitation equipment on the premises, which would also have to include a baby warmer (left), and personnel trained in neonatal resuscitation.
Well, that would kind of blow their whole “not a real baby, not a person, just a blob of non-sentient tissue” propaganda out of the water, wouldn’t it? Do they really want word to get out that they have neonatal crash carts on the premises? That has the potential to open some people’s eyes.
Cue the fauxminist shrieking about “more onerous laws designed and intended to restrict women’s access to health care” blah blah blah. Yep, us pro-life types don’t care one bit about babies after they’re born…except to prevent them being killed by their own mother, get them the care they need to survive, etc. So uncaring of you to propose this ammendment, Jill! Geesh!
Agreed – Baby warmers should be mandatory at clinics that do late-term abortions. This is something most people might even expect to be present at a clinic. The idea sounds reasonable to me.
It’s not an abortion, you freakin’ halfwits. It’s induction of pre-term labor on a fetus with genetic conditions that will lead to its death shortly after birth. Perhaps the parents want to hold the newborn for a few minutes. Perhaps they want it born technically alive for an autopsy. They could have exercised their legal right to a late-term abortion via destroying it while in-utero and you would have nothing to scream about. But this is the type that Karen Santorum had – ostensibly you do not believe she or her husband Rick are “baby-killers?” This does not involve KILLING anyone. It’s allowing an infant who may have no cerebral cortex and thus cannot breathe on its own, or one whose heart chambers are twisting around one another and will suffocate to death anyway, to die naturally. Lying about the circumstances is the worst form of journalistic and ethical malice, and I won’t stop informing your readers or anyone else about the facts of this ridiculous, horrible law. Do you really want doomed fetuses intibated, defibrillated and forced to live on machines? Don’t you think the parents are the ones who should make that call? Just stop. Stop exploiting the already contentious abortion issue. This is not abortion. This is a merciful death for fetuses who will die anyway. Leave it alone.
“I’m confident no PP in the U.S. has a neonatal crash cart (above right) and nursing staff certified in Neonatal Advanced Life Support.”
Of course they do, it’s right beside their mammogram machines. :)
“It’s allowing an infant who may have no cerebral cortex and thus cannot breathe on its own, or one whose heart chambers are twisting around one another and will suffocate to death anyway, to die naturally.”
Speaking of half-wits. Inducing labor and delivering an intact infant with no further intervention is not an abortion. And would be done in a hospital. And comfort care would be provided for the infant. Nothing is done to end the infant’s life prematurely. Late term abortions take steps to insure the infant’s death. Crushing the skull, lethal injection, dismemberment. There is nothing natural about it. Indeed death and not merely delivery is the entire point of the procedure. All this bill seeks to do is make sure that the mother and doctor who have contracted to kill this baby are legally required to seek treatment for him or her if their efforts fail. Preferably from someone who wasn’t invested in killing the child 30 seconds prior.
“Of course they do, it’s right beside their mammogram machines.”
Awesome.
“Awesome.”
Thanks. :)
Tera, inform yourself. The actual bill says nothing about forced intubation, it simply requires the treatment of any born-alive baby to be consistent with the standard of care of an infant of similar age. The Planned Parenthood lobbyist suggested that an infant that might be healthy if given treatment could be killed if that’s what the mother or abortionist wants. Read the bill itself: “if an infant is born alive during or immediately after an attempted abortion, any health care practitioner present at the time shall humanely exercise the same degree of professional skill, care, and diligence to preserve the life and health of the infant as a reasonably diligent and conscientious health care practitioner would render to an infant born alive at the same gestational age in the course of natural birth.”
Tera Powers, you are the “half-wit” if you believe late-term abortions are only done on babies who are going to die anyway. You need to do a little research.
How about I help you out a little: James Pendergraft, EPOC Women’s Clinic in Florida, where baby Rowan was birthed into a toilet and survived for several minutes while his mother screamed for help to no avail… their website states:
“Have you just learned that you are 24 weeks today find it imperative to have an abortion procedure started immediately? Do you need a late term or second trimester abortion procedure started and completed on the same day? Are you on vacation or a business trip from a country where abortions are illegal or difficult to obtain and need to have an abortion before you return? Have you learned that you are pregnant and have a severe kidney dysfunction or other disorder in which pregnancy poses a threat to your life and a danger to your health? Are you pregnant by someone other than your husband or boyfriend and require the ultimate in privacy of driving yourself to the office? Are you looking for a clinic where you can have an immediate, same day abortion procedure where you will be given the utmost care and be treated with kindness and compassion without the need for surgery?…
Welcome to the Women’s Center Same Day Abortion Clinic Services where Medical Abortions (Abortion Pill Procedures) can be performed from 3 to 24 weeks.”
Does PP provide mammograms? No.
Is PP able to provide medical care to women in the event of an emergency?
(perforated uterus etc.) No.
Is PP able to provide emergency medical care to babies born alive during the abortion meant to kill them? No.
PP lies. That’s a fact.
Hi Tera,
About Rick and Karen Santorum’s son Gabriel who was born premature……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJbHM-aqDxY
“They did everything they could to save his life.”(in the hospital)
THAT is not the intent of an abortion in an abortion mill.
Oh and Tera?
I let your name calling slide this time because there are so many issues to address in your comment.
I suggest you try commenting minus the name calling.
Or you will be deleted.
I’ve read there’s approximately 44,000 abortion survivors living in the U.S. today. So obviously not all babies who survive an abortion are doomed to die. It also makes you wonder how many more would be alive if they weren’t just left to die or killed.
Oh TP have you ever read abortion books. Often these surviving blobs of tissue are stangled to death drowned in a bucket etc. One abortionist ripped off a live aborted babys arm and when the poor soul was screaming he exclaimed “I cannot let this baby live!” He strangled him to death to finish him off. heh half wit!
TP They toss them in buckets to die..let it go would ya?
Hey Tera if you were in a terrible car wreck screaming in pain and doctors said you’re not gonna live anyway ..what should they do with you? Save you? Let you die in excruciating pain? Tell us!
“I’ve read there’s approximately 44,000 abortion survivors living in the U.S. today.”
The 44,000 number sounds familiar, but I thought that was worldwide, it sounds like too many for the U.S. alone.
According to the 1987 study by the Guttmacher Institute, 2% of women having late-term abortions are doing so because of fetal abnormalities. I would imagine that percentage has decreased even more since 1987, given that our technology is improved and it is easier to detect abnormalities and snuff out the child earlier.
Pro-aborts constantly state–with no evidence whatsoever–that most (or all) unborn babies killed late in pregnancy were “doomed” with terrible defects. I am often told by snotty pro-aborts, “No one would wait until the last trimester and then just decide to kill the fetus for kicks. That just doesn’t happen.” Well, I also find it unimaginable that mothers would kill their toddlers, but that happens too. And there are actually legal penalties for that.
Some people (including women) are just evil, and this is why civilized nations have laws protecting others from them.
I’d suggest an additional ammendment to that bill: any infant born alive during or after a failed abortion shall become a ward of the state and attempts shall begin immediately to place the child in a suitable adoptive family.
Any woman who tries to have her baby killed should immediately and permanently lose all rights/custody of that child, should he/she survive the attempt.
I don’t agree with a woman who tried to abort automatically losing custody. There are plenty of women who become good mothers after having abortions/attempting to abort. I do think CPS should be involved to make sure the infant is being cared for properly.
Other people already said to Tera what I was going to.
Id say to monitor their mental stability. Susan Smith had an abortion after an affair with a married man. PAS wasn’t acknowledged back in those days. She met and married David Smith and I don’t believe she ever stabilized after her abortion . She attempted suicide after her abortion .Then she killed Michael and Alex.
Not all women turn out this way but many have bonding issues with other kids.
People must stop denying PAS is real. Of course the pro choice crowd will tell you its normal to feel depressed after an abortion. But HEY don’t fret it will all go away once you get that diploma or find that perfect marriage and have the kids you choose . Bull pucky! I’ve seen it. The promiscuous behavior low self esteem drug and alcohol abuse. Weight gain..or extreme weight loss.
Susan Smith never healed after her abortion so when a man she had become sexually active with rejected her because he didn’t want kids she snapped and killed the boys. It wasn’t that Tom Findley didn’t want a future with kids. He just didn’t want Smith because she was easy to bed. Horrific story but true. I believe Findley felt so awful he left the USA and moved to London .
How do I know ? I’ve read 2 books about it. I believe Smith even slept with Findleys father.
This sounds to me like PP trying to cover their butts after one of their leaders said something really stupid in support of something, namely infanticide, that probably most of us, hopefully, are not yet ready to accept.
Victor..I’m not but I’m sure this has been an ongoing thing for a while ..the abortion industry ..don’t ask don’t tell. I’m glad the TN mom got a life sentence for killings her twins. Its about time!! I remember several cold blooded women who commited infanticide and today walk free to live free! Amy Grossberg Melissa Drexler aka prom mom Jessica Coleman and others
Amy Grossberg hid her pregnancy from everyone but her boyfriend Brian Peterson. She went off to college and hid it there. She wore bulky clothes so nobody would know. On a freezing November night Amy went into labor and phoned Peterson. He drove to her college and they drove off. Peterson pleaded with Amy to go to a hospital . She refused telling Brian I can’t get caught. The two checked into a Delaware Comfort Inn and Amy gave birth. Amy was hysterical screaming at Brian “GET RID OF IT!” Peterson ran to his car to grab a garbage bag. Amy ripped the umbilical cord and Brian laid the baby in the trash bag. He threw it into a dumpster .
As Amy lay on the bed she asked was it a girl or a boy? Before Brian could answer her she went “never mind” It was a six pound baby boy. Peterson asked the little darling how she felt. She said “I’m okay a little sore.” Amy had to get back to college so they checked out. The placenta remained inside her. Little did she know she was suffering from eclampsia. Before driving away Amy asked “What did you do with it? Where did you put it?” Peterson pointed to the dumpster. Satisfied he took Amy back to her dorm.
Amy and Brian snuck into her dorm room and grabbed alcohol cotton balls and scissors. They cut the cord as best as they could. Brian told her to rest. She said “I can’t I have class.” The next morning Amy tried to return to her normal routine .She missed her first class but got up and showered and made it to her next one. Another gal on campus who had suspected Amy was pregnant asked “so how is your baby doing?” Amy leapt from the car and said. “I’m not pregnant bi*ch!”
Oops meant a gal saw Amy walking and offered her a lift to class. Amy was happy to get off her feet and accepted. Amy was experiencing abdominal pain and a terrible headache in class. She stopped by a drug store to purchase maxi pads pretzels and sparkling water. She phoned Brian and told him she was feeling okay. Later that night Amy suffered a seizure. 911 came but for 20 minutes Amy refused to go with them. Her blood pressure was sky high her pulse was rapid. The truth came out at the hospital .
As doctors and nurses worked on Grossberg she began to suffer convulsions. Nurses and docs asked “Are you pregnant or have you been pregnant?” Grossberg “No” an Obgyn specialist was paged and immediately recognized the signs of eclampsia. The doctors noted a swollen abdomen and with a vaginal exam the placenta. She then delivered the placenta and doctors asked “where is your baby?” Grossberg “I don’t know am I going to be okay ?” Again “where was your baby born?” Grossberg “I don’t know.” Anyway Amy was so ill she was shipped to the ICU OB wing of the hospital . She stabilized and was sent to prison despite her parents begging them not to.
After a media circus Grossberg finally accepted a punishment of 2 and a half years. Peterson got less time. Now I ask you do you believe the time fit the crime here? I don’t !
I think life without parole would have been a suitable punishment. Today Grossberg runs her own greeting card company called Just Because ..she even makes baby shower cards. Must be nice to skate on a murder charge. I’ve also read that Amy doesn’t take any responsibility for this crime and she does not visit baby boy Grossbergs grave.
I told that story because that was a do it yourself abortion and it has to stop! That happened in 96 and its only getting worse!
“The 44,000 number sounds familiar, but I thought that was worldwide, it sounds like too many for the U.S. alone.”
I got the numbers from this website: http://www.theabortionsurvivors.com/abortion-survivors-their-stories/
Tera,
You’re creating a strawman argument here. We’re not talking about premature induction of labor and palliative care in a hospital setting or even calling it an abortion. But rather we’re talking about late-term pregnancy terminations, (with the goal of terminating the pregnancy via induced fetal death prior to labor & delivery) done outpatient in an ambulatory clinic setting where the gestational age was underestimated or the procedure preformed incorrectly resulting in the delivery of an (often viable) live infant the clinic is not prepared to care for. The incident at the Orlando Women’s clinic with Baby Rowan is one example of such incidences.
Go to:
http://realchoice.0catch.com/dreadcomplication.htm
to learn more about botched late-term terminations (late-term abortions) which unintentionally result in a live birth, wherein the neonate was intentionally left neglected, drowned, strangled, or suffocated to die. This is NOT the same as premature induction of labor & hospice/palliative care in a hospital setting! These women and their babies deserved better care!
“I got the numbers from this website:http://www.theabortionsurvivors.com/abortion-survivors-their-stories/“
Wow, apparently this is more common than I realized.
Speaking of the Amy Grossberg case it seems Amy makes several appearances promoting her Greeting card company . She is often photographed and attends lavish parties. As one commented on another site…Amy is free to breathe and go to parties. What can the baby do?
She receives little sympathy. That baby died of multiple skull fractures from shaken baby syndrome . As Brian went to get the garbage bag Amy was left alone in a hotel room with a baby she desperatly did not want and viewed him as a life ruiner. They wanted to charge her with Capital Murder. Too bad they didn’t . A kick to the skull could have caused the fractured skull. The medical examiner explained the baby was born alive and being thrown into the dumpster wouldn’t have caused fractures like that.
“Victor..I’m not but I’m sure this has been an ongoing thing for a while ..the abortion industry ..don’t ask don’t tell.”
Heather, you are quite right. Infanticide may not be legal yet, but it’s allowed to happen without consequence. The results are the same for the murdered babies and the emotional and other consequences are the same for their mothers and families.
There is a number circulating on different pro-life groups today of 1,270 in the last few years I forget the exact time period. And that is just the ones that have been reported. Clearly many have not, as in the case of Kermit Gosnell.