Architect: Let’s put abortion clinics in high schools and malls
by Kelli
I think it’s so much about location and if, bear with me, I suggest that high schools — I know that in New York and California they can provide contraception and even in some schools in New York City they can provide emergency contraception — but what if abortion was accessible in high schools?
What if it was accessible on military bases, where we know sexual assault is very high.
What if it was available in malls because you can’t actually protest in a mall because it’s not public space, it’s private space. There are medical-type facilities already in a mall so why not have an abortion clinic in a mall?…
I just think where we locate these clinics plays a critically important role in how we access them.
~ Architect and author Lori Brown, responding to questions about how architecture plays a role in access to abortion clinics (as well as in restricting free speech), as quoted by The Daily Beast, February 25
[Photo via architectureau.com]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
How flippant! Ms. Brown makes aborting your child sound like it is on the same level as shopping for shoes or going to class.
I can’t imagine a mall owner wanting that kind of controversy on site. It would be bad for business. Boycott. What would prevent me from mall walking or window shopping in my pro-life t-shirt?
In a mall???? Oh yes, and you could call it something trendy and attention-grabbing : How about “Stop & Chop” ?
*Planned Parenthood put up advertisements in a mall here that has been around since the seventies – patronage of the mall dropped dramatically, and the large mall is now out of business. *
It’s seriously upsetting when people put up abortion as some type of solution to sexual assault instead of, you know, reducing sexual assault and protecting the victims. I mean, if we’re talking about the military, over half the sexual assault victims are male anyway so abortion services wouldn’t be “needed” for the majority of victims (but who cares about male sexual assault victims, ever, amirite?), and the female victims deserve to be protected, not offered abortion. The power structures and issues in the military need to be addressed, not covered up by offering the devastated victims abortions. Sick.
And no one better be giving my daughter an abortion or contraception at school behind my back. I’d seriously sue someone for something like that. Parents exist for a reason.
How will you explain all of the ambulances that will be at the mall? Sheesh now ive heard everything. Lets go buy some clothes get a mani and a pedi a haircut and an abortion!
People like her should be locked up in prison
How many parents would send there kids to a high school where abortion was offered on site? And how many people would patronize a mall where there was an abortion clinic? When over half of the population thinks abortion is morally wrong, I can’t imagine that including abortion in your business plan would be very profitable.
Abortion is never indicated as treatment for sexual assault.
This is the most troubling quote that I have ever seen on Jill’s blog.
I don’t think Lori Brown has ever met a human person. I suspect that her world is filled with objects that walk and talk….. she enjoys the ones that she can use, and she would kill the ones that annoy her if she could.
If she ever applied for a Concealed Carry Weapon permit, I hope that this quote would disqualify her as mentally and morally unfit to discern right from wrong in the use of deadly force.
Steven, you are as sick as Lori Brown.
We could be like China. We could put abortion equipment in every hospital and clinic and Starbucks store. We could pay for every abortion with borrowed money and send the bill to taxpayers. We could suppress every whispered attempt to oppose abortion.
And in your perfect world, Steven, abortion will still be horrible. Women will still be ashamed, secretive, and lie about where they are going and what they did. Women will still suffer guilt, and there will be drug and alcohol abuse and suicides. Women will still suffer injury, infertility, and deaths. Men will still be pigs, and refuse to accept responsibility for their sexual activity.
It will be the same, except that there will be more suffering as the result of more abortions — and no one will be permitted to help the women in their distress. But you don’t really care about women, do you Steven? You just want a cheap way to avoid your own responsibilities.
“What a wonderful idea. This is the future. Abortion on demand without apology. Maybe protesters can stand outside stores at malls and yell at women. I’m sure that’s not disturbing the peace. Ha!”
Even as a pro-choicer you see nothing wrong with little girls (because that’s what high school and middle school teenagers are Steven, kids) getting a surgical procedure presumably without her parents knowing about it? Or children being given medication without their parents consent? Kids are not adults, they make mistakes, they need their parents to help them with big decisions like this. I know some people have terrible parents but in that case there needs to be a setup in place to report the abuse/neglect. All of this throwing abortion and hormonal contraception at kids has got to stop. Adults are one thing (in regards to contraception) but kids are another.
Just so my son can have his inhaler with him at school I had to fill out tons of paperwork and get a doctor’s note, etc. But apparently the schools are not going to be so concerned about my daughter’s health once she reaches reproductive age. Apparently I don’t need to know about it if she gets a surgical procedure, or gets on medications like hormonal contraception. I don’t understand why people are okay with this. We acknowledge that minors are not ready for adult responsibility in millions of other ways, but they are 100% capable of making these type of decisions without their parents? Maybe a pro-choicer could explain what you think the benefits are to this type of stuff because it really seems creepy to me.
So agree with jack’s first comment, wish i could like it ten times. I have yet to meet an abortion advocate that is willing to address the reasons women enter abortuaries. They seem not to want to actually reduce rape or domestic violence, but only want to “mop up” afterwards by destroying a child. I am also quite disturbed that,rather than address people’s concerns, they merely want to silence protest and destroy free speech. As a pro-lifer, it seems to me not coincidence that abortion advocates look at destruction as an acceptable means, rather than CONSTRUCTIVE solutions as a means to solve problems.
People like Steven and Lori Brown think that killing is a suitable solution to just about any problem, and that there are no adverse consequences to their choice.
But Steven and Lori and their ilk never stop to imagine: What if someone powerful thought that Lori or Steven’s life or rights or property were not protected and free for the taking, if it suits the one in power. It might be a care-provider, or a governor, or just some guy with a gun. Would Lori or Steven encourage that person to think that killing is a suitable solution and fear no consequence?
What if somebody else’s right of choice means that you die prematurely, Steven? Is that fair? Because your death is bound to improve somebody’s quality of life. We’d hate to deprive ourselves of that.
And no one better be giving my daughter an abortion or contraception at school behind my back. I’d seriously sue someone for something like that. Parents exist for a reason.
You are a great dad, Jack.
Why is this woman talking about building more abortion clinics when the rate of abortion is on decline? If I was an architect, I would be concerned about building more affordable housing — not just for lower income people, but the middle class is being squeezed out of homeownership in many urban areas — or homeless shelters that are not old and decrepit, but I guess in Abortoland, abortion comes before food, shelter, etc.
This just really annoys me, and I’ve seen it often. With my son’s inhaler (you know, the one he needs to breathe and he could easily die if he didn’t have access to it right away if he has an asthma attack) I had to fill out my mountains of paperwork and the doctor’s note, and the school still tried to tell me that they were going to keep it in the office and he could come walk his tiny little asthma attack-having self to the office on the other side of the school if he needed it. I said “nope” and insisted he keep it in his backpack so he could use it immediately when he needs it (he has been trained very carefully about how important proper medication use is, he’s a mature kid and I know him better than they do) and they finally agreed after what almost amounts to legal threats on my parts. And it’s not just at the elementary school level, I talked to other parents who have older children to see if I would need to do the same thing when he hits middle school and high school age and they said it’s the same issue there. Kids and teens die from asthma and allergy attacks, quite a bit more frequently than people realize. I’m not leaving him to try to get to the office and risk losing his life.
But you know, they can release my daughter when she’s older to have a surgical procedure (which has a small chance of death no matter how safe it is, like all surgical procedures) or get on medications and I apparently have no right to know these things, nor is the school going to hassle her about keeping it in the office. I just don’t understand what is wrong with people. Hormonal contraception isn’t candy, abortion isn’t risk free, parents are not superfluous, and children are not adults.
I would protest at a mall if I knew there was an abortion clinic there!
In case you haven’t noticed, every time pro-lifers encourage parental participation in abortion decisions for minors, the abortion industry cries “foul.”
And yet, how many moms force their daughters to abort – even seen by eyewitnesses at clinic, forcibly pushing their daughters in – and the abortion industry doesn’t bat an eye?
They fear parental involvement. They fear parental protection. In general, they fear parental involvement because it might hurt their bottom line. Trust me, they don’t really think abortion protects girls from abusive parents. In fact, they are willing to turn a blind eye to statutory rape. When it benefits their bottom line, baby.
How many liberals have we heard now expressing either directly or indirectly that children don’t belong to their parents? When are we going to understand that they view parents as the enemies to their agenda for our children?
“They seem not to want to actually reduce rape or domestic violence, but only want to “mop up” afterwards by destroying a child .”
You’d be happy to note, then, that New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand– staunch pro-choicer– is sponsoring legislation that would address sexual assault in the military, specifically calling for rape cases to be removed from the military’s chain of command.
You might also be interested to know that on Monday, Kansas Senator Jerry Moran–an avowed pro-lifer, killed the debate on Gillibrand’s proposed legislation by tying it to a politically contentious and completely unrelated issue (US sanctions against Iran).
I DID see a pp in an outdoor shopping center in FL, and later looked them up in the yellow pages to see if they were one of the ones that did abortions, and they were. This was back in 2006! (sigh)
“…and the female victims deserve to be protected, not offered abortion.”
Survivors deserve justice, which includes protection of the right to determine what happens inside their bodies, especially after experiencing such a cruel violation of their autonomy.
If we had access to abortion at my hs maybe we wouldn’t have had so many teen pregnancies. I felt really bad for the girls I knew who felt they had to have their babies and were not able to finish hs, go to college or get out of the small town where we lived. They wanted an abortion but they had no access or money to get one. Their lives are ruined. Antichoicers can pride themselves on knowing that they ruin lives.
I still think it’s creepy to focus on putting abortion clinics on military bases because of high rates of sexual assault, seems like the focus should be on protecting and preventing the assaults from happening in the first place. I’ve been repeatedly assaulted, but obviously could never become pregnant from it, so I can’t really imagine what a pregnancy from rape would be like. I do know it’s not the kid’s fault what his sperm donor did, though.
Abortion is a cruel violation of a woman’s body, as well as the murder of a child’s life.
Some pro-lifers show pictures of the dismembered bodies of aborted children, to educate the public about the reality of what happens to the child.
I think we need to show clips from Silent Scream, and reveal what happens to women during the abortion procedure. If women really knew what will happen to their bodies, women would be repelled from abortionists like women are repelled from rapists.
BV,
Ever talked to any rape conceived children? Juda Myers for one?
Rebecca Kiessling for another?
Ever talked to any that were raped and kept their babies and love them dearly?
Ever talked to anyone that was raped, conceived and had an abortion and was DEVASTATED that they succumbed to pressure to “get rid of a rapists child??!!” They say it felt like medical rape. Raped twice. AND they would give ANYTHING to have their child with them.
I have talked to quite a few. Many are dear friends of mine.
I suggest you start doing some homework.
I’m not really interested in parading around the sexual assault survivors I know to make a political point. It really doesn’t matter how many of your friends were simply delighted to find themselves pregnant after a rape, or how many of mine are thankful the hospitals they went to the morning after weren’t Catholic. The principle here is that women deserve a choice, and deserve to be supported in any choice they make.
Silent Scream has long been discredited; and the makers admitted that some things were faked and misrepresented.
It was long ago that I saw Silent Scream. Very long ago. But I still remember the footage of an actual abortion being performed.
All the same, women should see real abortions on film before they must choose. I think this sort of information is just as important as the images of dismembered children. People need to see what abortion is.
Jack, don’t you know? Men *can’t* be sexually assaulted. DUH.
It makes me mad that this is the mentality and yes, you’re absolutely correct in saying that we ought to target, you know, the problem.
It’s like if the solution to a flu epidemic wasn’t actual medicine but blankets for the chills. Thanks? I guess? Let’s fix the problem, not the consequences.
Besides, killing innocent parties is never the answer. Ever.
Having the baby does NOT mean you have to raise the baby! While I believe adoption is not something that should be forced on a woman and I’m all for programs and aid that help single mothers who choose to raise their children continue their education and/or learn various other skills, IMO adoption still gets ignored far too often.
I wish there was 100% effective morning after medication for this situation, I wouldn’t want any woman to feel forced into any decision because of a rape.
LB I only get annoyed with the ignoring of male victims when it’s certain types of abuses that males make up a good portion or the majority of victims. Like military or prison rape or child abuse. I watched a documentary on military rape and surprise surprise there was like one guy telling his story versus like ten women. K. Mostly it’s just men being socially pressured to keep quiet about such things and people automatically thinking that women are victims and men are aggressors, not people deliberately leaving them out, but it’s not right.
“It’s like if the solution to a flu epidemic wasn’t actual medicine but blankets for the chills. Thanks? I guess? Let’s fix the problem, not the consequences. ”
Yeah… I do get where they are coming from but there’s got to be a way to break down that old boy’s club and prevent these things in the first place. Obviously, for everyone pro-life and pro-choice, no rape at all is millions of times preferable to rape +abortion.
Megs, killing an innocent human being will never heal sexual assault. Killing someone innocent has never made anyone’s life better. YOU KNOW THIS.
Delighted after rape and abortion Megs?
What a disgusting thing to say!
Shame on you!
Abortion doesn’t heal rape.
“Abortion doesn’t heal rape.”
Is that ever the point?
Not to you. No. Never.
The point is, we as a people (with minds and hearts and consciences) are ENTIRELY DIMINISHED when we look at a horrible problem (rape, and a pregnancy which results from it) and say: we can kill an innocent human being to solve this.
Megs, don’t you think we are better than that? That we could and ought to DO better than that?
“The point is, we as a people (with minds and hearts and consciences) are ENTIRELY DIMINISHED when we look at a horrible problem (rape, and a pregnancy which results from it) and say: we can kill an innocent human being to solve this.”
…except that nobody is saying this.
The principle here is that women deserve a choice, and deserve to be supported in any choice they make. -
Uh, you’re saying this, Megs. If a woman decides to kill her unborn baby in order to deal with a rape (or any pregnancy she deems inconvenient), your view is that it’s an equal option. I’m saying that the option of killing other innocent humans is NEVER EVER on the table.
“If we had access to abortion at my hs maybe we wouldn’t have had so many teen pregnancies.”
Yeah, and if we served booze for lunch at my hs we would have had less alcoholic teens. Dooooooooooo it!!!
With the amount of abortions these creeps want, it would make more sense to build bigger kill mills and located the schools and malls inside of them instead of vice-versa.
Oh wait, if I do the math, in a couple generations we will just have big empty buildings because most humans will have been aborted.