Megan Huntsman, 4th trimester abortionist
News broke April 13 of a gruesome find in a Pleasant Grove, Utah, garage: the remains of a dead newborn infant stuffed inside a box.
The owner of the home, Darren West, called police, who found six more babies, also hidden inside boxes. Of the seven, one was apparently a stillbirth, but the rest were murdered after delivery.
West’s estranged wife, Megan Huntsman, readily admitted to killing her children. According to the AP:
Huntsman, 39, told police she either strangled or suffocated them immediately after they were born. She wrapped their bodies in a towel or a shirt, put them in plastic bags and then packed them inside boxes in the garage of her home….
During the interview with police, she was unemotional and matter of fact….
Of course, there is no difference, except the murder method, between Huntsman and Kermit Gosnell, the Philadelphia late-term abortionist found guilty of first-degree murder last year of severing the spines of three newborn infants.
And there are only inches of difference between Huntsman and the late-term abortionists Hollywood celebrates.
But no surprise, Huntsman’s murders are getting much more press. The media was uncurious about Gosnell because his occupation was one they cheer; plus, it was too uncomfortable for them to ponder how close Gosnell’s illegal method of killing was to his legal method.
But the media considers Huntsman’s crime “horrific and unimaginable,” because we all instinctively know a mother killing her own children is worse than when others do it (which is why there will always be a stigma attached to abortion, no matter how how the other side tries to normalize it – the revulsion is innate).
The media wonders why Huntsman didn’t abort. Again, killing one’s born children is unacceptable, while killing one’s preborn children – even at the same age – is acceptable:
Cheryl Meyer, a psychology professor at Ohio’s Wright State University… said “concealers” are typically teenagers who do not repeat the act.
“These are usually girls who are 17, get pregnant, become scared to death and don’t want to tell their parents,” said Meyer, who has written about mothers who kill their children. “They’re not 30-year-old women who can go have an abortion.”…
Defense attorneys also will try to determine whether Huntsman sought an abortion and if she told anyone about her pregnancies – all in hopes of understanding actions that otherwise appear incomprehensible….
In other words, it is “incomprehensible” to kill one’s own baby after birth, particularly because it is so convenient to kill that baby before birth.
Even in the days leading up to her delivery Huntsman could have reached out to any number of late-term abortionists, like LeRoy Carthart and Warren Hern, pictured right.
But Huntsman waited to commit her own 4th trimester abortion – perhaps because it was cheaper?
The abortion industry should make Huntsman a poster child to push for Obamacare to cover late-term abortions. Don’t they love personal stories of tragedy like this?
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I wonder if she’s mentally ill or just a psychopath. Either way, this is horrifying,
Didn’t this woman ever hear of birth control?
Oh my gosh. Wow.
This really makes me sick and ache.
I wonder if she’s mentally ill, evil, or the combination of the two.
What made her keep getting pregnant!? And what on earth made her wait till after labor!? Like, if you don’t want a baby, don’t want to be pregnant, I kind of get the knee jerk reaction to get “unpregnant” (ie abortion). But waiting till after you deliver and then methodically killing and hiding babies?!
Also, I want to say my heart aches for the husband finding these babies but where the heck was he when his previous offspring were killed? Didn’t he ask where his babies were?
Well who knows if they were the husband’s babies, it says they were estranged. Maybe he didn’t know she was pregnant. If he did know though, I wonder if he shouldn’t be held responsible legally as well. If he knew she was pregnant like seven times and carried to term (wouldn’t she have been quite visibly pregnant at that point?), it seems incredibly negligent if he didn’t try to figure out what happened to the infants. Need more information on the case.
Right exactly. It’s not clear what his role was other than he did discover the babies. It’s just heartbreaking. But we do need more info.
“I wonder if she’s mentally ill or just a psychopath.”
Isn’t psychopathy a mental illness?
Lol JDC I was using the word more colloquially as shorthand for “doing terrible things even I you’re perfectly capable of telling right from wrong just because you want to”.
Hi JDC,
Not necessarily. Psychopaths, aka sociopaths, can function very normally and you probably have known or worked with any number over the course of your lifetime, or do now. They are considered a personality disorder. IMO, there are areas where their personality traits may serve them very well, such as in undercover work and as special forces soldiers. That’s not to suggest that all people who work in these areas are sociopaths.
I would recommend you read “The Sociopath Next Door” by Martha Stout, Ph.D.
Hi Mary,
So what you’re saying is that personality disorders are a separate category and not a subset of mental illness. I always thought that mental illness was a broad term that covered anything abnormal in the mental realm, including personality disorders. Anyways, I will check out “The Sociopath Next Door” when I have time. Thanks for the recommendation.
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In other words, it is “incomprehensible” to kill one’s own baby after birth, particularly because it is so convenient to kill that baby before birth.
It is called wicked. It is called evil. And I would go so far as to say she was possessed.
Hi JDC,
I don’t know if they would be considered a “subset”. People with personality disorders are not all alike. Some can function very well, thus may not be considered ”mentally ill” though may be extremely difficult to deal with, others like my late father may border on the psychotic. Madonna, who IMO is a Narcissist/Histrionic obviously functions well, though many of us would consider many aspects of her behavior bizarre. Its likely these traits are what propelled her to the top. IMO Courtney Love is a severe borderline personality disorder who suffers psychotic episodes.
Not claiming any expertise, I’ve just spent my life with these folks. My family is full of them so you’ll never convince me there isn’t a genetic factor. I love these programs where they ask you to “analyze” the personality traits of famous historical figures, like Cleopatra. I call it “right” every time. I must admit, in all humility, that I amaze myself sometimes. :)
I don’t know why any proabort would be shocked by this.
Trust Women.
killing one’s born children is unacceptable, while killing one’s preborn children – even at the same age – is acceptable: – well that doesn’t add up.
But Huntsman waited to commit her own 4th trimester abortion – perhaps because it was cheaper? – I think we all know that isn’t the case.
The abortion industry should make Huntsman a poster child to push for Obamacare to cover late-term abortions. – she doesn’t represent that scenario at all. Sounds more like someone who doesn’t agree with abortion to me.
I wonder if she’s mentally ill, evil, or the combination of the two. – there is no such thing as a stand alone ‘evil’ If someone is presenting in a capacity that some may judge ‘evil’, then they are mentally ill.
I’m shocked. If she didn’t want children she should have had abortions. Delivering and killing at birth indicates that there is a whole lot more going on. To try to ascribe this to the topic of abortion is invalid. It certainly sounds like she would have done this whether abortion was legal or not or even available or not.
So you don’t think women can be trusted Praxedes?
Reality,
“Mental illness”, like evil, is in the eye of the beholder. Many an evil criminal has been considered fit to stand trial, including Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, and the Nightstalker. Degenerates you and I would agree are evil, but mentally ill? They also had their groupies and admirers who would beg to differ with us as to how evil they are, if at all. These are the ones I consider the real sickos!
I definitely think this woman is mentally ill. But is she legally insane and incapable of standing trial? Lots of gray areas here.
“If someone is presenting in a capacity that some may judge ‘evil’, then they are mentally ill.”
I don’t think so. Sometimes people are simply selfish/narcissistic/cruel/sadistic/etc and choose to commit horrific crimes without a mental illness like schizophrenia/bipolar disorder/whatever. I mean, yeah, personality disorders like ASPD exist, but I don’t think that’s mental illness in the same way that a chemical imbalance is. Sometimes people are just rotten and do rotten things knowing full well they are harming others. My dad was like that, he wasn’t mentally ill as far as I could tell, just evil (or, if you dislike the term, sadistic/cruel/sociopathic/etc). People do horrific things without being ill all the time.
Would you consider someone, who normally doesn’t have much wrong with them except a temper, who commits one of those “road rage” beatings “mentally ill” or just a jerk with a temper?
“The abortion industry should make Huntsman a poster child to push for Obamacare to cover late-term abortions. – she doesn’t represent that scenario at all. Sounds more like someone who doesn’t agree with abortion to me.”
Oh come on Reality. We’ve all seen people wax lyrical after situations like this and Andrea Yates talking about that mothers murdering their infants and other children like that is why abortion needs to be available, I’m pretty sure that is what the comment was referring to. Heck, people even say that about children who are abused but not killed (it’s my least favorite pro-abortion argument, I find it very insulting and offensive).
“I’m shocked. If she didn’t want children she should have had abortions. Delivering and killing at birth indicates that there is a whole lot more going on. To try to ascribe this to the topic of abortion is invalid. It certainly sounds like she would have done this whether abortion was legal or not or even available or not.”
No, she shouldn’t have had abortions if she didn’t want children, especially to the extent that she would kill children because she didn’t want them so much. She should have avoided pregnancy (yes I know contraception fails, but doubling up and such can reduce your chances of falling pregnant to pretty much nil). But anyway, I agree with you to the extent that there was a lot more going on here than just not wanting children. That doesn’t justify anything, at all, though.
“So you don’t think women can be trusted Praxedes?”
Praxedes was blatantly alluding to the fact that, just like men, some women can commit horrible crimes. Not all women can be trusted in all circumstances, just like not all men can be trusted in all circumstances. That’s why “trust women” is one of the dumbest slogans I’ve ever heard. People of all genders can do horrific things. Most women (and men) are good people, but there are the bad apples and “trust women” is stupid when it comes to children deserving protection and the right to be free from harm.
OK, OK, Mary and LDPL. ‘personality disorder’ or whatever rather than ‘mentally ill’. Yes, some people have ‘traits’ which stand them well in certain special and limited circumstances while they rest of the time they are a danger to themselves and/or others. I don’t believe in the whole concept of ‘evil’ though.
We’ve all seen people wax lyrical after situations like this and Andrea Yates talking about that mothers murdering their infants and other children like that is why abortion needs to be available – that should be early-term abortion, not late term. People who have late-term abortions due to the timing of medical situations being discovered are the ones who are ‘poster children’ for obamacare.
I agree with you to the extent that there was a lot more going on here than just not wanting children. That doesn’t justify anything, at all, though. – I was simply saying that putting this under an ‘abortion’ heading in any way is not valid.
So are you saying that every woman – and every man – should be under 24/7 surveillance? Just in case?
Well, one of the definitions of evil is “profoundly immoral and malevolent”, and I think that’s a fine word to describe some people. I think I have the right to describe my dad that way, for example. I wouldn’t call this woman “evil” because I don’t know her situation, she obviously committed some horribly immoral and malevolent acts but for all I know she’s so ill that she can’t tell the difference between right and wrong, I can’t call people like that evil. I doubt it though, by her reaction she just seems to be lacking empathy and a conscience. I don’t know for sure though.
“that should be early-term abortion, not late term. People who have late-term abortions due to the timing of medical situations being discovered are the ones who are ‘poster children’ for obamacare.”
No, birth control that’s more effective and available is what’s needed, as well as other things. Obviously I don’t think abortion is the answer to this case, Andrea Yates, or any other killer or abusive mothers. Kids end up dead or abused born to these mothers, they are no less dead if aborted.
Not all late term abortions are for medical reasons, btw.
“So are you saying that every woman – and every man – should be under 24/7 surveillance? Just in case?”
No, I clearly don’t think that. What I don’t like about the “trust women” is that people are using it to say “trust women, they know when it’s best to kill their own child”. You see that as valid if the child is not born yet, I never will. I don’t “trust women” to kill their kids if they think it’s the best decision for them, even if they are a two month old fetus at the time. I don’t trust men who think it’s best for them to kill kids either.
I don’t trust anyone who wants to dictate how other people live.
I don’t think that I or any other man can say it is ‘best’ for a woman to abort. Only each individual woman can make that decision.
Well we can agree that no men should ever be dictating that women should abort.
You want to dictate how people live, Reality. You want to dictate that people can’t steal, rape, murder, etc. You also (I hope) want it dictated that companies have to follow safety regulations, that employers can’t fire people for being gay, etc. You want plenty of things in people’s lives dictated. So, it’s not accurate that you don’t trust people who want to dictate people’s lives. You just don’t trust people who want to dictate people’s lives in certain matters.
Sorry if I sound angry or whatever, this story is extremely upsetting to me. There’s no one more helpless than fetuses and infants, they don’t even have a prayer of fighting back. And these seven babies were killed by their own mother, your parents are supposed to be the people guaranteed to protect you. :( It’s just too sad.
Society generally has a desire that our fellow members of society are safe, that they are protected. That doesn’t stop some folk from acting against that desire, so we have laws which punish them. Society decides what is desirable and what is punished by law.
When I speak of those who wish to dictate how others live their lives it is all the other choices we have.
I think you know that.
You don’t sound angry or whatever.
“Society generally has a desire that our fellow members of society are safe, that they are protected. That doesn’t stop some folk from acting against that desire, so we have laws which punish them. Society decides what is desirable and what is punished by law.”
Yes, and I would like to see these protections extended to the unborn as well. Doesn’t mean that I wish to dictate the circumstances of anyone’s lives just because, it means that I believe the unborn are deserving of the legal protections that we extend to born individuals. We simply draw the line of who deserves protection in different places. You think it should begin at birth, I think it should begin when the human does.
I realized my 11:45pm comment made it look like I think that women are solely responsible for preventing pregnancy or that they are solely responsible for abortion, I don’t think that and sorry the comment made it look like that. I consider men equally responsible for preventing unwanted pregnancy, and there are only a few circumstances I think men are not responsible for a baby they fathered being aborted.
Any honest person who knows you at all would not claim that that is what you were inferring Jack.
People claim all kinds of things about me lol.
And I messed up again, lol, in my last comment I meant to write that there are only a few circumstances where I consider men not partially responsible for their baby being aborted. They are varying degrees of responsible depending on situation, sometimes blameless more often not.
I have noticed that. Says more about them than you ;-)
Fathers DO force and coerce women/girlfriends/mistresses to abort. That is a fact.
Fathers DO kill girlfriends who refuse abortion. That is a fact.
I have witnessed the bullying and the pushing and the yelling of the fathers to the mothers
to GET IN THERE and GET IT DONE NOW!!
There are also fathers that WALK AWAY and abandon those mothers in their time of need.
And I have met men that have begged her NOT to abort their baby. And she did. Fathers that
offered that mother EVERYTHING if she wouldn’t consider killing their child. But she did.
And the fathers who are involved? Paying for it, forcing, coercing, abandoning, begging her not to? Are all post abortive. They are fathers too. And they need help and healing.
http://fatherhoodforever.com
It takes courage to stay and do the right thing.
And fathers do that too!! Thank God for them.
Yeah that’s why I said it depends on situation.
Um. Yeah. The situation of a child conceived and a mother and father who don’t know what to do?
That situation.
Who’s responsible for the abortion depends on situation, is what I meant. Sometimes people are equally responsible, sometimes one person has more responsibility than the other. It’s not an either/or thing.
The headline is ludicrous. But, whatever gives antiabortion zealots warm fuzzies, I suppose. If someone shoots their child at age 18, I suppose that’s 75th, 76th, 77th or 78th trimester “abortion”.
Well to be clear Jack. The responsible parties are the ones who had sex with each other which can lead to pregnancy. So I have been told. :)
I know what you mean. In the end we have one dead baby and one wounded mother and one wounded father. :(
Merit,
She could have gone to an abortionist and this would never have made the headlines. They kill babies on their due dates dontcha know.
Yawn.
My reference was to the headline above.
Yawn.