Stanek Sunday funnies 11-2-14
Good morning, and Happy Sunday before Election Day! Here were my top five six favorite political cartoons this week. Be sure to vote for your fav in the poll at the bottom of this post!
This first cartoon, by Politico’s Matt Wuerker, received quite a bit of heckling this week for the inclusion of a Nazi soldier helping keep people from voting…
Get it? The SS skeleton? B/c asking for ID is like killing Jews? RT @politico: Check out the latest from @wuerker: pic.twitter.com/37jvwd79S3
— PoIiMath (@politicalmath) October 30, 2014
a twofer by Comically Incorrect’s A. F. Branco…
by Chip Bok at GoComics.com…
by Nick Anderson at GoComics.com (after lesbian Houston Mayor Annise Parker’s office acknowledged receiving over 1,000 Bibles before she announced she was withdrawing subpoenas of sermons of five pastors over a dispute about petitions demanding the repeal of a city ordinance allowing transgenders to use bathrooms of the opposite sex)…
by Michael Ramirez at Townhall.com…
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Voted for #3. Some how I thought it was PC to NOT bully people. Must be wrong because Democrats sure are with their “We know if you vote or note. Better get to the polls.” and the implied threat. Even Mrs. Obama gave a speech that was not nice about people not voting.
vote or not.
I see Sen. Mary Landrieu is up for the Darwin Award. She is an example of natural selection eliminating the stupid.
Mary, demeaning your constituents is not a way of winning their vote.
Also, I would like to know how many black Democrat senators serve with you.
I wish I could vote ten times for the first one.
The Voter-ID discussion is such a red herring.
There is not enough voter fraud to worry about, and those who seek to do fraud will not be deterred by ID’s.
And everyone in America can get an ID easily enough to get along with the rest of their lives. Showing an ID at the poll will not deny anyone votes.
But all the hot air about Voter ID has given the politicians a great deal of cover about their real failures to lead and their real intrusions into our lives.
Hi Del,
When boarding a ferry a few years ago my very elderly mother, who was using a walker, and two physically challenged women were required to show IDs. They all had no problem producing them. Now if very elderly and handicapped individuals, one in a wheelchair, can get IDs, I’m very hard pressed to understand why perfectly able bodied people can’t.
There’s this patronizing mentality that minorities for some reason are less likely to have IDs. Really? So minorities don’t drive cars, have jobs, own homes, pay rent, have bank accounts, they never use checks or credit cards, and don’t use the airports?
Good grief if things are this bad, maybe they should stop supporting Democrats. It sure isn’t getting them very far in life.
Del
Your second line about no fraud is right on target.
Your fourth line about not denying any votes – you need to research more. Just google it – you’ll find a lot of stories about elderly people who were born in rural areas and don’t have birth certificates, and don’t drive now.
Regardless, given the history of voter suppression in this country, we should be bending over backwards to make it as easy to vote as possible. These new voter ID bills are too close to the old Jim Crow laws for my comfort – and being associated with those dark days in history is not anything I’d want to be a part of.
EGV,
Please explain why an ID is such a burden? I’ve had to show ID, and voting was very easy. What’s the big deal?
Del–I live near Philly. There was so much voter fraud here last election it was sad. Dead people voting and some precincts had 100% voter turnout and ALL for blue. Go figure. Some precincts had MORE people vote than were registered to vote!!! No one batted an eye. The news stations reported it as if it were funny. But it isn’t funny.
Voter ID would help.
Also EGV,
If you don’t wan’t to be associated with the dark days of Jim Crow you might seriously reconsider your support of the Democrat Party, who instituted the Jim Crow laws.
In a nutshell, it’s a bit of a poll tax. ID’s generally aren’t free, and there are actually millions of Americans without driver’s licenses. So then you have to setup government programs for free ids, but those require birth certificates, which many people don’t have, and which again, cost money. So what you run into is legit Americans, law abiding citizens, that get turned away from voting because they don’t have proper identification or couldn’t get through all the bureaucracy to get proper identification. That’s massively wrong, again, given the history in our country.
As a businessperson, I would also seek to fire anybody that said that they wanted to spend millions of dollars that the company had to solve an issue that didn’t exist. Voter fraud is a myth – there are very, very few cases of it actually existing, and we have laws to protect it. We’re spending millions to fix a problem that doesn’t exist. It’s like the bridge to nowhere in Alaska.
The voter fraud we should be worried about is not something that a bunch of poll workers checking IDs could stop. People have admitted that these laws are simply to try to discourage voting and swing things a few percentage points.
http://www.propublica.org/article/everything-youve-ever-wanted-to-know-about-voter-id-laws
Mary –
The Democrats had a massive part in the historic Jim Crow laws.
The Republicans have a massive part in the new breed of Jim Crow laws that exist in this country.
I’m more concerned with the present than the past.
Sydney –
That simply is not true – the Phili information. You’ve been snookered.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp
Sydney –
More facts on Phili
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/voting-conspiracies/
Two is awesome, seeing Abortion Barbie getting aborted. I love five too because is depicts the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ impacting the government, being the salt and light we’re supposed to be.
Three and six deserve honorable mentions because of their depictions of the democratic party’s propaganda and Obama’s incompetence.
The answer is to require ID, and then make it easy for everyone to get an ID.
Anyhow, #1 is hilarious because it has tricked all the paranoid Democrats into revealing how they see the simple requirement to display an ID.
Meanwhile — I have a friend in Texas whose daughter was denied a vote because her ID was 1) a college student ID and her second ID was 2) a Connecticutt drivers license. I suspect that the polling inspectors were hyper-strict Democrats who intended to disenfranchise as many middle-class white voters as possible. They know how to play this game.
It’s a little crude, but it actually made me laugh out loud so I’m voting for #2 this week.
Del –
If we start having actual documented cases of fraud – some huge effort – maybe it justifies the millions in spending. I don’t see any evidence, though groups have devoted massive effort to uncover evidence.
I just don’t see how a true conservative in one breath can say that spending is out of control, and then quickly sign up for millions in spending to solve a problem that doesn’t exist.
FYI: The government charges for a copy of your birth certificate and then charges again for voter ID. Want to make it free and easy to get an ID. DON’T charge!
Patty –
Exactly. I’d be fine with free driver’s licenses for everyone in the state – maybe we could put a tax on political contributions and political ads to pay for it.
delegates to the democRAT national convention could not gain access to the assembly hall without presenting a photo ID.
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but these same democRATs claim that requiring a photo ID to vote is discriminatory and disenfranchises democRAT voters.
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democRATs claim voter fraud is an urban myth promulgated by angry white republicans and conveniently forget it was angry white democrats clothed in white robes and hoods and burning crosses and lynching blacks who enacted jim crow laws, polls taxes and literacy tests to vote.
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democRATS falsely claim that voter fraud does not exist and even if it does it is so rare that it is irrelevant, but La Raza, a democRAT political machine, is mailing lists of states that do not require voter ID’s to undocumented illegal aliens.
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I have not read of a single republican or conservative or tea party member who objects to requiring a photo ID to verify that the person casting the vote is actually the same person who registered to vote.
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When a democRAT commits voter fraud and votes for a democRAT, it disenfranchises the legal registered voter who cast her/his vote for the republican or independent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX6E2Ucv7S8
EGV,
IDs a poll tax? IDs aren’t that expensive and may even be issued free of charge. My mother hasn’t driven in years, lives in assisted living, and has an ID. I’ve also sent for a copy of my original birth certificate, just call city hall where you were born for information on how to obtain it, its even automated.
The cost was minimal and its a good idea to always have a copy or your birth certificate on hand.
Also, how do people get by without IDs? I need two pieces of picture ID to get money out of the bank I’ve been at for over 30 years. Want to cash a check? Better have an ID. I even had to show an ID to buy liquor. What an ego trip! That is until they told me they must check everyone’s ID, period.
The DemocRATs strategy is to make government nothing more than the biggest ‘mob’ in America and use the resources of government for payola and cronyism and buying votes with give-aways.
EGV,
Yes the Democrats had a massive part. They passed the laws!
Please name all the Jim Crow laws the Republicans have passed.
Ken
Do you also believe Bigfoot exists?
I’m serious.
I think there’s about equal evidence of bigfoot existing as there is of voter fraud.
Mary –
If you research it, you’ll find no shortage of articles of people who have had massive issues trying to get proper identification to accommodate these new laws.
And yes, if you have to buy stuff to be able to vote, that is pretty much the same as a poll tax.
Mary –
Good book for you to read – not sure what kind of books, but this is a good one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Jim_Crow
To be fair, the Dems haven’t done much to peel back these laws – in fact, Obama and Clinton expanded certain aspects.
Mary –
More information on voter ID and comparisons to new Jim Crow laws.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2014/nations-top-civil-rights-lawyers-say-discriminatory-jim-crow-voting-laws-abound
Every word from Obama’s lips is deceit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDDbTaWpwoc
EGV,
I’ve had to present my ID to vote. I then voted. No big deal.
So if you have to pay bus fare to go vote, is that a poll tax? Come on EGV, that’s pushing it.
I reviewed your post and my question remains unanswered. Please point out the Jim Crow laws passed by Republicans and that are presently on the books. I see that there is debate and criticism over this book, including Yale University Law Professor James Forman Jr. who says the author relies too heavily on her analogy to the former Jim Crow laws and overstates her case. Black scholars are also very critical.
Mary –
I pointed you to a large book that lays out a very compelling argument. You can easily read a summation of the arguments on the many articles.
Your last sentence is a huge swing and a miss – there are some people, blacks and whites, that don’t fully subscribe. To paint the brush that “black scholars are also very critical” is simply untrue. Read some articles and you’ll find a LOT of black scholars who agree with the argument.
EGV,
Your article mentions voter vigilante groups.
Do you mean situations like this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party_voter_intimidation_case
A situation our esteemed AG Eric Holder did nothing about.
Also, where does it point out how voter ID restricts anyone from voting.?
EGV,
In your opinion. Apparently not all agree.
The fact remains you can’t tell me where any laws that fit the definition of Jim Crow laws have been passed by Republicans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws
Mary
I’m massively against anything that either party does to restrict, intimidate, or turn away voters. I don’t care which party. It angers me that people are so flippant with voter laws given the terrible, terrible past the US has with voting and restricting groups.
Again, I encourage you to read up on the subject – criticism and support. The questions you are asking are all very elementary in the overall debate.
On your second post – Nixon and Reagan’s war on drugs campaign – the targeting of certain drugs over others, the militarization of police forces, minimum mandatory sentencing laws – again, there isn’t a shortage of information for you to dig into if you truly care. I’m guessing you don’t.
EGV,
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I oppose any and all efforts to interfere with voting rights.
Again, these are not Jim Crow laws that specifically target a group of people. Some might argue the consequence of these laws is to do so, but again that’s a matter of perspective.
Speaking of militarization of police, you may find this article interesting, coming as it does from the Huffington Post, hardly a bastion of right wing thought.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/10/obama-police-militarization_n_3566478.html
Ex-RINO, good to know you are against this administrations use of the IRS to target conservative political action groups. So you’ll be join us then in voting the DemocRATs out.
You would think these progressives that really cared about pregnant women and about unborn children would be in favor of Scott Walker for his support of a personhood amendment.
Remember the ACORN scandal?
Also check out James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas on Voter Fraud:
https://www.projectveritas.com/
Just throwing it out there.
X—Snopes? Really? Run by two liberals? I wasn’t “snookered” I LIVE THERE. It happened. Trust me. Had friends working the polling places seeing cars pick up democrat voters and drive them to many precincts to vote multiple times. THEY SAW IT.
You have to have ID to get welfare. If you need benefits you have to prove your identity.
Mary
Working through comments after watching some football (Go Chiefs!)
Anyway – the interesting part of the new breed of laws is they are built not to be overtly racist, but because of the targeting and application, they essentially are (which you alluded to). Bottom line – if you have a drug that is equally abused by whites and blacks, and 95% + of jail time goes to one race and not the other, then there is racism built into the system somewhere.
On your last post – I 100% agree that Obama has increased the militarization – and we’ve seen bad consequences of that. Look at the number of police killed in the US over the last 20 years compared to other countries. It’s nuts. Too many guns, and a terrible approach to crime in this country.
Sydney –
How would friends at polling places see people picked up and dropped off at two different places? Do those friends fly drones, or have spy cameras?
I posted two links with facts discounting what you said. I’ll wait for you to offer your proof of this.
More information on the lack of voter fraud in Pennsylvania:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/pennsylvania-admits-it-no-voter-fraud-problem/2012/07/24/gJQAHNVt6W_blog.html
Sydney –
Even more – here Pennsylvania, while trying to put the law in place, states that there is no known voter fraud, and even without the law, don’t expect voter fraud.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/ahead-of-voter-id-trial-pennsylvania-admits-there-s-no-in-person-voter-fraud
So conservatives want to take about $10 million of the state’s money to fix a problem that doesn’t exist. Brilliant.
EGV,
No I did not allude to their being racist. I said it was a matter of perspective. One could just as easily argue that people wouldn’t be targeted if they weren’t committing the crime. Its like arguing that cracking down on the mafia was really about going after Italians.
Mary – Sure – you see it on this site – some people say planned parenthood is racist because they put clinics in the inner city – and others will say that is where high population rates are.
Bottom line – from almost every study conducted, if a white person and black person use the same drug, the black person is multiple times more likely to end up in prison for it. Bottom line – indisputable. Sure, they both used drugs, but the application and punishment takes a racist form after that.
EGV,
Well, justice isn’t always fair. Look at OJ and John Gotti, who got off the hook time and again.
But that all these laws set out to be racist or target a specific ethnic group, not necessarily. That doesn’t mean they can’t be used to do so.
Mary
All I’m suggesting is that racism still exists in the world, and as people of faith and citizens of this country, we should be worried about certain laws that target groups of individuals. There is nothing wrong with admitting that it might or does exist.
Heck, I’ll even readily offer up that many Democrats, including Clinton and Obama have supported laws which further the problem.
In my opinion, we need to take a hard look at the way we deal with prisons and prisoners in this country.
EGV,
I agree racism exists. However I look at the opposition to voter ID laws as both patronizing and racist, suggesting that somehow nonwhite people don’t function in adult society thus we can’t expect them to have an ID.
Mary
That suggestion you mention is of your own creation.
The simple truth, backed by studies, is that minorities are more likely to not have the identification identified.
And again, we’re spending millions on a problem that doesn’t exist. It just doesn’t make sense.
EGV,
Hardly. I have heard black people express anger about this patronizing assumption.
So why are minorities less likely to have ID? Is someone denying it to them? If their lives are such that they don’t drive, own homes, pay rent, have bank accounts, write checks or use the airports, then maybe its time to stop voting Democrat. Its certainly not getting them very far in life.
Let local opponents of the law offer rides and bus fare so that those who truly want ID can get it.
I still can’t understand why the very elderly and disabled women I mentioned had no trouble producing ID, but perfectly able bodied people can’t.
Mary –
You can say 1000 times over that people should have no issue.
Again, please research it.
Finally – why do you feel we need voter ID laws? If there’s very little to no proof of fraud existing, why are right wingers everywhere pushing it?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/30/texas-voter-id_n_6076536.html
EGV,
Why do you left wingers oppose ID laws? If people want to vote badly enough, how difficult is it to get an ID? Good grief, I couldn’t buy a bottle of liquor without one, but I can vote? Believe me, there’s NO way anyone would assume I’m under 18 or under.
Because given the history of this country, anything that restricts voting should be treated pretty darn seriously. And again, because those without IDs are typically the elderly, students, and minorities.
Have you heard the phrase, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. Nothing needs fixing.
EGV,
The one woman can’t vote because she didn’t pay her parking tickets. What has that to do with ID?
The dishwasher can just call the city of his birth and get a copy of his birth certificate. I’ve done it twice. Its not rocket science and I don’t recall it cost me anything.
The college student didn’t have a license from Texas. How is anyone supposed to know she’s a legal resident? As a student is she a legal resident and had she been in Texas long enough to to meet the requirements?
How about exercising a little personal responsibility like getting your birth certificate and making certain you have a valid Texas ID so as to vote? Also, determine if you are a legal resident.
A few examples, and examples can always be found. Hardly indicative of any major problem with voting laws.
Also, there are 7 types of ID that are accepted. Doesn’t sound terribly restrictive to me.
The only serious and significant ‘voter fraud’ of any sort I’ve come across is that of certain republican operatives being caught disposing of enrollment forms and such belonging to groups more likely to vote democrat.
‘…a Latino man delivering completed ballots to an elections office in Maricopa County, Ariz. Ballot stuffing! Blatant fraud! Caught red-handed!
Actually, delivering other people’s ballots to elections offices is perfectly legal in Arizona. Even Republicans have asked Arizonans to bring their early ballots to campaign events this year, so they could be collected and dropped off at polling places. But when the person doing the same thing was Latino, the blogs made it seem like the guy was hiding under the bed, ready to grab your foot if you got up in the night.’
EGV,
You haven’t shown how ID restricts voting. I have always been asked for ID, I have always been able to vote. If people want to vote badly enough, there’s something called personal responsibility.Get your birth certificate. Get an ID. Make certain you have the proper ID.
If you are an out of state student, make certain you qualify to vote.
Houston has a lesbian mayor??! (I *was* surprised by this….)
Next thing you know, we’ll be having a black President, or a female one.
There is no problem with Houston’s electing a lady mayor who indulges her same-sex attraction.
The sad part is that her first major action was to violate the First Amendment so blatantly and to openly proclaim her antipathy and intolerance toward Christians.
And as for paying for ID cards for those who cannot afford them — “tens of millions of dollars,” we are told — let us remember that Planned Parenthood gets $1.5 million of taxpayers’ dollars, each and every day.
We could stop payments to PP for one or two weeks, and have plenty of money to pay for ID cards for all who need them.
Imagine my disappointment: I see the comment count and I think, oh, there must be a lively discussion going on, but no. It’s just ex and his stick-to-the-narrative fantasies. You know Ex, when the rest of your co-horts have stopped drinking the kool-aid already, you may want to set your cup down too.
Ex-rino,
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I don’t believe in Sasquatch, but I do believe you have Big Foot In Mouth.
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I do believe in Jesus and I can’t find anywhere where HE advocated for socialism/communism/humanism.
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Can you find me some examples where Jesus advocated using the government to steal money from the people who earned it and then redistributing it to others who refused to work?
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Can you find an example where Jesus advocated for government being our master and/or we being made its slaves?
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Still waiting for some of those examples of your ‘good fruit’. The boRAT claims to be a ‘committed christian’, perhaps you can provide some examples of her ‘good fruit’.
Mary –
This isn’t that difficult to figure out.
Those lacking documentation are typically elderly, minorities, and students- groups that typically vote Democrat more.
A certain percentage will see the financial and time barriers too much, and thus won’t vote.
Even Republicans have admitted this, and it isn’t a hard theory to follow.
9ek –
If you have anything of substance to offer at some point, let me know – I’m sure I could teach you a thing or two.
Ken
I’m not sure if your post is post-alcohol consumption today, but there has been no talk this whole thread of anything you are talking about.
You state that voter fraud is an issue. That is when I asked if you felt Bigfoot exists. Nothing about anything else you are talking about.
Interstate Crosscheck, the program Republicans have already used to purge tens of thousands of voters in one state, is supposed to ferret out people who have fraudulently voted in more than one state at the same time. But the list of names, 6,951,484 of them, is brimful of mismatches and probable mismatches. In short, a lot of the individuals that officials involved in the program say have double-voted are actually two people with similar or identical names.
In February, Florida’s secretary of state turned down the city of Gainesville’s request to use the University of Florida’s student union as an early voting site. The student union is used for voting on Election Day itself. But in the past, the queues to vote on that day can be immense, and it’s been estimated that, statewide, more than 200,000 people didn’t vote as a consequence of those lines. Early voting is meant to relieve that crunch and also make it easy for people whose schedules make voting on election day difficult.
And not just students—all the faculty and anyone that works and lives near the University of Florida. There are so many people who commute here every day,” he said. “All of these voters who live within Alachua county that come commuter here, all the students who go to school here, they aren’t able to vote early in a location that’s most convenient to them.
EGV,
One must wonder why Democrat voters apparently don’t take part in adult society, which is virtually impossible without an ID.
Also EGV, if people want to vote, they have plenty of time to get IDs. Its at least two years between elections. One can take the initiative to check out requirements to vote and to make certain one meets the requirements.
My grandmother didn’t have a driver’s license for decades. So she was less of an American in your eyes?
EGV,
Not at all. But as an adult she could certainly obtain an ID if she wanted to vote, right?
Ex-RINO,
The reason more minorities get prison time for drug offenses is two-fold. The gang culture and the lack of money to get representation to defend themselves. The court system locks up more poor people regardless of race.
Mary –
She could have – sure – but she didn’t drive, was an American voting for years and years and years – and there wasn’t a problem before.
What’s the compelling reason to spend millions of dollars and make her go through hoops to do what she’s done without issue for years?
truth –
I posted a link earlier to a good book if you’re looking for something to read these days.
I’m finishing that one, and then on to the S. King Dark Tower series.
EGV,
So your mother got through life with no ID of any kind? Didn’t she ever bank, write checks, apply for a mortgage or to rent? My 97y/o mother has an ID. Thank heaven or she couldn’t have gotten on that ferry.
What’s going through hoops? Just drive her down to the DMV or wherever they issue IDs in your area.
Well, I think the moon would be a good place to put Justin Bieber.
Mary –
My grandmother. Went for years without one – didn’t drive. And tons of people don’t have a drivers license (statistically), and a lot don’t have valid birth certificates. And they are Americans.
Again, at this point, what is the compelling reason for a change – because I’d be pretty upset at one of my employees continuing to pitch a multi-million dollar plan that solves absolutely nothing -though it creates a line and more of an inconvenience for everybody. I mean, we could certainly do all sorts of things – but why not only do things that make sense. Why is that hard to go with? Again, why do you want to spend my money to fix a non-existent problem?
EGV,
One needn’t have to drive to have an ID. Tell me how she functioned in adult society without ever having to show an ID? I assume she banked, owned a home, or rented.
I don’t think its an issue of voter fraud, though of course it does happen. I just can’t understand how people function in adult society without an ID. If you don’t have one, go get one. I don’t hear complaints about IDs being required for just about every other activity in daily life.
Don’t feel bad EGV, the gov’t spends my money on very useless and stupid things as well.
Mary –
3.2 million is the estimation of citizens that don’t have an id. Heck, if I didn’t drive, I’d barely need one – I can’t think of the last time I had to show my id somewhere.
I think we’re at a dead end on this one – after a lot of voting issues, I hope that congress does something to make voting better for all in this country.
EGV,
So you have been able to go through an airport, cash a check, use a credit card, and retrieve money from you account without using an ID? Incredible.
You must have a very honest face.
Haven’t had to fly in years. Regional bank, so no issue banking (I haven’t cashed a check though – just deposits). No issues with credit cards.
Well, never know when you’ll need to fly and I assume when you did you needed and ID. A few years ago my bank started requiring 2 pieces of picture ID in order to get back money and I’ve had to show an ID when paying with check or credit card.
Like I said, you must have a very honest face. I’ve been at that bank over 30 years.