Let this be the zillionth example demonstrating how much of a dim bulb Amanda Marcotte... an Ann Coulter wannabe... really is. To her, if MSM reports something, it must be true. If Guttmacher Institute reports something, it must be true.

Jill, she posts this in the comments section: "I suspect something terrible happened to that woman once, and this is her attempt to reconcile the trauma."

Yes, it was that precious baby with Down syndrome the victim of a live birth abortion who was born only to be left to die in the soiled utility room, whom you held in your arms while he struggled to live, but died.

Had Ms. Marcotte had the same experience, perhaps she too would be fighting to stop this atrocity. Or is her heart so hardened that she would still celebrate the eugenic practice of killing those "unfit" to live?

Well Jill,

You seem to have been the topic of the day over there...

I posted this: Now Amanda, Can't you even tell the truth about this? Not only did your post stay up, but I personally commented on it...and as for the "RED" allusion? Jill was comparing the color red to the blood of the millions of babies you supported killing. Harlotry never entered into it. Guilty conscience? Project much?

Yes, Ellie, Amanda is more right about my traumatic past than she understands.

I don't see your comment on their site, mk...

Sorry,

Didn't explain myself very well...she claims that Jill didn't allow her post...You can see for yourself that she did...

Just a few of the posts from over there...sure, they ban Jill but allow this?

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Amanda Marcotte
January 31, 2008 at 12:50 am
Knowing how the wingnut mind works, I think someone has a lesbian crush on Amanda.
My pussy-eating skills, tarnished by years of straightness, suck.

The Devil\'s Advocate
January 30, 2008 at 6:56 pm
I read through a few of the comments on that site. Here’s an instant classic:
And women who have abortions are much more likely to abuse children from subsequent pregnancies, so there you go if he read it, why does he still think it's not true? Bethany cited her sources...

this is what we are talking about when we say the "other side" sounds psychopathic...these are the people we have dealt with over the years. Like you, we didn't realize that there are very wonderful people on the prochoice side...all we ever saw were these:

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MAJeff, the God of Biscuits
January 30, 2008 at 7:50 pm
And, whenever given the chance, I decorate my bathroom in red.
I think I need the statue of fetuses on spikes to really make it a good bathroom, though. That’d make an awesome free-standing toilet paper holder.

And this, referring to Nancy Reagan: Lovely!

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mnemosyne
January 30, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Nah, being a harlot is too much fun for Nancy.
Are you kidding? People still say she gave the best blowjobs in Hollywood before she and Ronnie got married when she was three months pregnant.
Don’t let her fool you — Nancy was a goer.

Bobby,

I don't see your comment on their site, mk...

Well, are you surprised???

And yet, Amanda's still stands...

yeah, i read some of those comments too. Vulgarity! boooooooooooooooooooooooo...

Bobby,

Did you get my email?

"I don't see your comment on their site, mk...

Well, are you surprised???"

Nah, just stating the obvious.

yup. Gianna and I already prayed it.

That's amusing that she automatically assumed you were implying that she was a harlot, rather than the abortion implication which was so obvious.
I think MK may be right about the guilty conscience aspect... lol

Amanda, I curse you to henceforth think of the blood of abortion every time you see or wear the color red.

I think also, she should be cursed to imagine that picture (above) every time she wears red. Sheesh it could give anyone nightmares to see what people do to babies in the name of "choice".

Amanda fills her blogs with twisted diatribes railing against her own thoughts on what a person might really mean based on her own perceptions of what they say. Look closely, and see that so much of what she writes is just an attempt to make people appear differently than they really are (so that nasty insults can be hurled at them by her and her oftentimes childish commenters).

Yeah, you just doubled-down the case that you think I'm a harlot who has Teh Sex. Do you realize that I've never had an abortion? Haven't had to, since I use the hated birth control.

God, your love of gore is disgusting. Do you fall asleep looking at pictures of dental surgery?

What kills me is that she claims Jill didn't put up her post...a lie that is so easily exposed. If she is willing to lie about that (all the time complaining that WE are the misleaders) what else is she lying about? How can you have any credibility when you lie about something so inconsequential? She is just a pretty young woman. So sad, that at such a young age, she has become so dark...

Jill makes the allusion that Amanda looks like the very same thing she believes to be a constitutional right. Amanda says "Boo hoo.... you're calling me a harlot." Jill says let me spell it out since you didn't get it the first time... you look like that with which you believe to be a moral right. Amanda replies, "I've never had an abortion."

A dim bulb indeed.

You are slumming, Jill.

Had Ms. Marcotte had the same experience, perhaps she too would be fighting to stop this atrocity. Or is her heart so hardened that she would still celebrate the eugenic practice of killing those "unfit" to live?

She probably would have happily crushed the little "parasite"'s head with a hammer.

She is a classic example of what my Italian grandmother would have called "blood to vinegar" (in Italian). She's so nasty and bitter, she hurts herself more than those she rails against.

Amanda:

You don't even realize that you blasphemed the Creator of the Universe by this statement or perhaps subconsciously your statement reveals your underlying issue that you hate God for creating you?

This is really what you said: "God, your love of gore is disgusting. Do you fall asleep looking at pictures of dental surgery?"

"....and by your words you will be condemned".

Tell me something, now that you directly speak to God, well, has He answered you yet or are you perhaps too afraid of His response?

mk,
She put up your post now. She calls you a a "wierdo"...What is she, 10 yrs. old? Wierdo????

I guess one who has no basis for truth must resort to childish name-calling.

LOL

Amanda says: "...your love of gore is disgusting"
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Actually we DON'T..and we actually want to stop it from happening. YOU and your mis-informed ilk, on the other hand, DEFEND those that do.

YOUR love of ABORTION is disgusting and disturbing...

Why does her site take so long to reload???

I most certainly do not want to curse you, Amanda.

If anything, my heart breaks when I hear the bitterness in her words. I feel so sorry for her. There by the grace of God go I.

Amanda, although you may laugh hysterically at me now, I pray that one day you will appreciate that at this very moment, I am sincerely praying for your salvation through Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, and that you come to know the full extent of God's love for you. I pray that He softens your heart so you can be receptive to His love for you. In Jesus' name.

Amanda:

Do you know what blasphemy is:

It's taking that which is good and calling it evil as in calling an anti-abotionist an evil person or mentally ill and...

It's taking that which is evil and calling it good - kind of like what you do....being an ardent pro-baby killing murderer.

Tell me something.....what really caused you to become like this? Why such hatred for God and the intent of His will, i.e., babies in the womb?

Have you ever heard of the Jezebel spirit by which you are possessed? Do you even realize that you are possessed by such a spirit? Do you know what happened to the Jezebel of the Bible? Dogs ate her flesh.

Jill Stanek fills her blogs with twisted diatribes railing against her own thoughts on what a person might really mean based on her own perceptions of what they say. Look closely, and see that so much of what she writes is just an attempt to make people appear differently than they really are (so that nasty insults can be hurled at them by her and her oftentimes childish commenters).

Posted by: Phil at January 31, 2008 8:34 AM

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See? Its just as truthful.

Tony:

Nice to meet you my fellow WOP.

I can say that because I am 100% Sicilian.

They don't get any woppier than me.

Your mother is like my mother who said, "every baby comes a loaf of bread". I was so, so lucky to have an Italian mother for next to Jewish mothers are the best in the world.

Let's get these baby killers.

Jill, how about re-posting that Michael Corleone post of a year ago. That really got me going.

I think Amanda would even make a Mafioso cringe.

Actually, TR, Jill quoted exactly word for word what Amanda did say, and replied to that with her rebuttal. (Also, notice, Jill allows dissenting commenters to post, Amanda does not.)

Amanda posted her opinion about what Jill said,, without bothering to post the context of Jill's post. She took the small quote about the red, and didn't bother to post the rest of what Jill said which clarified what her point was about the red. She simply made the (incorrect) assumption that Jill was referring to promiscuity.

"Nice to meet you my fellow WOP.

I can say that because I am 100% Sicilian."

I'm about 1/3 Sicilian. Does that mean I can call you a W?

Another lie by Amanda:

"I reminded her that the Nazis were actually in full agreement with her about abortion and birth control. I’m sure that went over well. Not sure, since she didn’t let it post."

Click here:
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/01/amanda_preaches.html

At 5:35 her post went through, immediately.

Which, of course, even if it were true, is not an argument. I'm sure there are many things that we are in agreement with the Nazis about. For example, my guess would be that most Nazis believe that most people are born with two legs. I'm in agreement with the Nazis that most people are born with two legs. Hence, most people are not born with two legs.

Bethany,

She acknowledges it now. Says my post didn't go up cuz it was in moderation, and that she didn't see her post. Strange, because we don't filter our posts and it went up right away, while mine took over an hour.

It's really hard to post over there. Would seriously not enjoy blogging over there...of course that attitude doesn't make it any more appealing!

When will pro-abortion simpletons drop the tired notion that pro-life people are prudes who want to stop them from having sex. When will they realize that many, if not most, pro-lifers do not give a rat's a$$ about their sex lives.... In fact, most of us could care less about what or who they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms (or kitchens, or laundry rooms, or cars, or vans, or under their front hedges, or wherever). All we really want to say is if the natural consequence of those actions should occur, they need to take responsibility for that consequence, such responsibility not to include the act of killing another human being. It's really that simple.

Hey...I am one quarter Italian and had the best little Italian grandmother anyone could ask for.... can I be a quarter wop? *winks*

Amanda: "I reminded her that the Nazis were actually in full agreement with her about abortion and birth control."

I believe they held this view only if they were German or the "right" race or whatever.

For anyone else, anything goes.....including the gas chamber....

"All we really want to say is if the natural consequence of those actions should occur, they need to take responsibility for that consequence, such responsibility not to include the act of killing another human being. It's really that simple."
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Anon....RIGHT on!!

Unfortunately, the concept of "sexual responsibility" is alien to these liberal pro-aborts...hence, no matter how simple the concept is, they won't get it.

No Bobby:

You're a WOP.

Your Italian genes simply dominate the other lesser genes and with a name like Bambino, who would think that you're Irish?

Please don't tell me you have blue eyes and blond hair, please, please, no.

HisMan...does that mean I can't be a WOP? I have platinum blonde hair and blue eyes....*sadness*

But I love my Italian heritage the most....I can make a mean spaghetti with clam sauce...

My grandma was less than 5 feet tall and was the typical beautiful Italian woman with a heart of pure gold. Dark hair, dark eyes, and a feisty personality. I'm sure you can relate this to your mom....Italian ladies really are the best. :)

Um, uh oh... I do have blue eyes... and Bobby Bambino isn't my real name...

You're more WOP than me, Bobby....at least you don't have blonde hair. HisMan will laugh at me for my paltry 25% Italian-ness. *cries*

Lyssie:

As the dominant WOP on this site, I hereby declare that all 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 5/8, and 3/4 WOPs are indeed 100% WOP as long as they are pro-life. I can say this because in your lifeimes I'm sure you've all consumed enough spaghetti to be a WOP by infusion.

Also, I don't know one WOP that is not pro-life.

Speaking of Amanda's analogy regarding Nazi's and abortion, I wonder if she can make the same insightful and brilliant claims about Mussolini?

Hey, is Marcotte Italian or French? I think French....gotta be....aren't the French known for well....we all know....

Further, all pro-death-as-a-choice, baby killers, if they claim to be Italian, simply have not eaten enough spaghetti with meat sauce and mushrooms, nor have they had the privilege of being extravangantly hugged by their 4'-2" high by 4'-7" wide grandmas. Nor have they had the experience of being loved simply because they were born and are viewed as a gift from God, not a burden to be violently killed.

*giggle* Thanks, HisMan... The Lord knows I've even more spaghetti than should be healthy for any human being. It was the only thing my mom could keep down while pregnant with me...so I've been eating it since conception. Lol.

I'm making some spaghetti tomorrow night. Bring the family...it's my grandma's sauce recipe. :)

I was raised on a steady diet of pasta fazul...

Bobby...I believe its "fagiole". :)

*hug*

How's Gianna? Sleeping through most of the night yet? I know all babies are different....my brother didn't sleep through the night for more than a year and a half. I, on the other hand, slept like an angel and woke up making happy sounds in my crib. :)

Amanda banned Jill (and countless others) from her blog because although she generally supports free speech, she's personally opposed to it. Also, as she recently argued, she believes that the primary purpose of the First Amendment is to promote abortion (the free exercise of religion clause, anyway).

The easiest way to dialog with Amanda is to leave a commment at one of her posts over at RH Reality Check. Apparently, they've deprived her of control of the comment section there, so all she can do if you say something she dislikes is shriek at you.

"Bobby...I believe its "fagiole""
Ah yes, you are correct. Pasta with beans in it... Gianna is doing great! She sleeps through the next mostly, only having to get up once or twice, which isn't bad at all. She's so big! She looks around, makes eye contact with people, and smiles. My parents bought us a webcam just so they can see her in real time :) God love you, Lyssie.

Lyssie:

My wife has blue eyes and blond hair. She's Irish, English and Scottish (that's why I think she so troubled internally - kdding honey).

Sorry, my attraction to my wife's blond hair and blue eyes was a weakness, although I did date some beutiful, and I mean stunning Italian girls. Long black hair, brown eyes, olive skin, etc. You should see my kids....I've got to say that they are absolutlley gorgeous.

However, the Italian girls always hollered at me and I couldn't handle it.

I didn't have a grandma, but I have a Godmother. Her name is Millie. When I was little, whenever she saw me, she would pick me up, squeeze the daylights out of me and kiss me till I screamed in laughter. She is a godly woman whose prayers led me to Christ. Next to my wife, my mom and sister Hunna (Helen) she is one of the most importnant ladies in my life.

Poor Marcotte...no spaghetti.....she's French....no grandma.....no godmother.....she hates babies.....and has a open grave mouth.....where's the Prozac when you need it?

Man..speaking of spaghetti...I spent like six months eating the stuff when I had to work in Hong Kong...It's the only stuff that was easy to make!

I also spent high school in a St JOhn Bosco Techincal High School...

Considering the large amounts of spaghetti, lasagna, ravioli, pasta etc I ate and being brought up under an Italian Saint (feast day today: Jan. 31)..does that make me an Amici by infusion or assimilation?

None of the antichoicers posting here has any room to criticize anything anyone on the pro choice side says - not with all the insults and lies and misinformation and irrational hysterical idiocy you post.

Bobby: That's great! Looks like she'll turn out to be a good sleeper...always a blessing. :) I love that picture of you two on our snapshots page.

HisMan: Do your kids look more like you or your wife? They sound absolutely lovely. My brother and I, however...look like neither of my parents. We're both tall, blonde, blue-eyed, and Nordic-looking. My dad looks like a typical dark-skinned Italian man, and even though my mom is English/German, she has dark hair and eyes, and is quite short. Both sides of my family went nuts when a blonde was born. :)

Now, TexasRed...no need for theatricals. Can't you see the conversation has changed to amicable banter about spaghetti and wonderful Italian women? Join in. :)

Now, HisMan....why did the Italians girls NEED to holler at you? I'm sure there was some cheekiness coming from you, don't act all innocent. *winks*

Now, you and my dad would get along swimmingly. He's a Knight of Columbus (I'm sure you've heard of them), and loves God and spaghetti. I have a theory that God created spaghetti on the 8th day....but it never made it into the Bible....the sheer goodness of it leads me to believe so. :P

I have an Italian sports car. I like it a lot. The only thing I dislike about it is when the tires go flat they go WOP WOP WOP.

None of the antichoicers posting here has any room to criticize anything anyone on the pro choice side says - not with all the insults and lies and misinformation and irrational hysterical idiocy you post.

Posted by: TexasRed at January 31, 2008 10:36 AM

First of all if I am not mistaken, the creation and purpose of the blog is to criticize the pro-choice side for all of their lies, misinformation and hysterical idiocy.

Would you mind pointing out the lies and misinformation posted here from the pro-life side?

RSD:

Careful....TexasRed is back. No spaghetti for him, just, well, texas reds, hot dogs, that is. Wonder if he had an Italian grandma? I doubt it, I don't think there are any Italians in Texas.

No wonder he's so angry. Do you know what's in those wieners? You'd be mad too.

Lyssie:

Yes, four of my kids look like me. I have to keep asking myself if she was the real mother. My odd ball second son, while gorgeous, is the black sheep...he look's like my wife. Unfortunenately, while he only partially looks like me, i.e., abs of steel, he did get my brilliance. No, he's got light brown hair and beautiful hazel eyes and is a sweetheart beyond comparison. Perhaps I should introduce him to AM? Not a chance.

Jill:

I've got a solution to the pro-aborts' fixation with baby killing. How about we start a program called, "Adopt an Italian Grandmother". Any one with an Italian grandmother would never be a pro-abort.

You know guys, we can have fun, however, the subject of abortion and the murder of children is too devastating to always be serious. We need to laugh too. Ann Marcotte's posiitons are so absolutely ludicrous and inhuman that reading about her makes me either do one or two things, laugh or cry. She is sadness defined and I would bet an extremely miserable person.

Pass the cheese please. Hey, I want that meatball. The salad, we eat that last at this table.....we press on.

Truthseeker:

My American truck tires do the same thing.

It must be true, there are only two types of vehicles in the world, those that are Italian and those that wanna be.

Don't forget the canoli's.

Hey Jill, did ya fuggeda about the Michael Corleone post? I mean, Valentines' day is fast approaching.

Amanda, I curse you to henceforth think of the blood of abortion every time you see or wear the color red.

Jesus, Jill grow up. Dont curse people. It's childish, and stupid.

Hisman, was that the post where Jill defended domestic violence and got everyone so upset?

Hey can someone explain to me what the hell Gadsden Alabama has to do with Quakers or this Amanda chick's "beef" with Jail?

There are no Quakers in Alabama (they're in Tenn, which is north of us), and I dont like people talking shit about my state...

oops Jail=Jill.

Brain does not want to work with me today?

First of all, Im a woman.
Secondly Im Scot, Irish, Welsh, and a touch of Cherokee and Comanche - no Italian that I know of. But I still make a good spaghetti sauce and lasagne.

Why can I not post on her site??

TR: please don't tell me you make your gravy (sauve)with ketchup? It would make my daddy cry.

Good try Hal:

At least Michael Corleone didn't kill his first two children.

Domestic violence, hey buddy, you're the poster boy for it.

Twist and shout, twist and shout, c'mon baby......should be the pro-deathers' anthem

Now, TexasRed...no need for theatricals. Can't you see the conversation has changed to amicable banter about spaghetti and wonderful Italian women? Join in. :)

Posted by: Lyssie at January 31, 2008 10:41 AM
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Nothing at all theatrical about my comment - I spoke the truth. And any comment is at the bottom of the screen regardless of which post it replies.

HisMan:

Go jump up a rope...

TR:

Wow, what a mutt. Heinz 57 people like you are usually drop dead gorgeous. And I don't mean John Kerry's wife.

Glad you like spaghetti. ChefBoyArDee or Progresso sauce? That's one good thing about you. Just havin' fun with ya.

Sorry that I assumed that you were a male.

Hal:

Let me revise my suggestion for the pro-abort anthem to: "Twist and shout, twist and shout, don't come baby".....definiteley more appropo.

Nobody's perfect, except Hal, of course.

None of the antichoicers posting here has any room to criticize anything anyone on the pro choice side says - not with all the insults and lies and misinformation and irrational hysterical idiocy you post.

Posted by: TexasRed at January 31, 2008 10:36 AM

First of all if I am not mistaken, the creation and purpose of the blog is to criticize the pro-choice side for all of their lies, misinformation and hysterical idiocy. (dont exist - this blog was created to spread antichoice propaganda, lies and misinformation)

Would you mind pointing out the lies and misinformation posted here from the pro-life side? (I notice you left out insults)

Posted by: Sandy at January 31, 2008 11:00 AM
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Lies? That pro choicers are irresponsible, that they are 'obsessed with baby killing', 'love' abortion, certain people would be 'happy' to crush 'the little parasites' head with a hammer, calling anyone 'pro abortion' and 'pro aborts' which is a lie even if you wont face that fact, saying that pro choicers are 'simpletons', never mind all the lies, incohrent irrational idiocy from HisMan which you encourage - the list goes on and on and on and on - hypocricy and misogyny are the watchwords here - you (general use of the term) have NO room to criticize anything anyone else says.

Hey, HisMan, I have a question. How do you explain the flood story? OK, there was a huge flood, whole world, I can deal with that. But knowing the fantastic amount of land animals in the world...how did Noah get two of them all on one boat?

I'm not trying to be snarky or anything, I've just never heard it explained in any kind of way that remotely seemed reasonable to me. Maybe you could help?

TR: please don't tell me you make your gravy (sauve)with ketchup? It would make my daddy cry.

Posted by: Lyssie at January 31, 2008 11:26 AM
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Why would anyone put ketchup in gravy? The only time I ever used ketchup cooking is when I made a 'stew' using left over beef or venison - its my fathers deer lease recipe and has ketchup, A1 sauce, worchestershire sauce, onions and garlic - throw in the left overs, diced potatos, carrots if you want, and simmer until the veggies are done ... havent made it in years though. I dont even like ketchup on french fries.

Even Rabbis admit the old testament isnt to be taken literally, that the stories are proverbs and the purpose is to teach a lesson. The great flood story taken literally is scientifically impossible.

Glad you like spaghetti. ChefBoyArDee or Progresso sauce? That's one good thing about you. Just havin' fun with ya.

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I make my own spaghetti sauce from scratch. The only time I use a jar sauce is if I get ravioli or tortellini and then I dont use Progresso or BoyArDee

MidNite678:

Glad you're feeling better.

I think what you're saying is, "Go jump in the lake"? Since a rope is flexible and not rigid I believe that junping up a rope is well, impossible. I understnad though...the same mind that thinks it's OK to kill a a baby in the womb shouldn't be expected to think rationally or logically. I mean you think it's a c-h-o-i-c-e right? No, baby is spelled b-a-b-y.

Now, if I could jump up a rope I could probably turn it into a multi-million dollar business. Hmmmmm, I need to think about that...thanks for the idea.

By the way, I agree that we shouldn't be cursing anyone. However, I would say that I will pray for Miss Marcotte that she come to her senses and that the Holy Spirit convict her without measure of her evil.

Finally, I have to go. As you know the Superbowl in this Sunday in Phoenix (Glendale). As a result there are numerous celebrities in town. In fact, oh my goodness, pro-life, American Idol, Ms. Sparks is singing the National Anthem at the game. You'd think the NFL would just get with it, wouldn't you? Nope, they're just a bunch of selfish old men who don't want any more black football players to be aborted. Come to think of it, I wonder if one of the 50 M aborted babies would somehow have been in the Super Bowl?

Anyway, I'm going to a golf tournament and hope to meet Gale Sayers, Tony Dorsett, Chuck Foreman, Chuck Norris (a rabid pro-lifer), etc. If I can, I'll post some pics later.

It's been fun guys......pass the meatballs!

the same mind that thinks it's OK to kill a a baby in the womb shouldn't be expected to think rationally or logically. I mean you think it's a c-h-o-i-c-e right? No, baby is spelled b-a-b-y.

That's the point HisMan, jumping up a rope is impossible. It was joke, apparently you dont understand those either.

And for the record, I do think rationally AND logically. That's probably the main reason I have issues with god. It is not rational or logical that he/she exists (to me anyway). It is not rational or logical that a great flood destroyed the earth and one man was able to save two of every animal. It's not possible.

Now, please dont insult my intelligence again.

"Nobody's perfect, except Hal, of course."

Sweet of you to say HisMan, but I never claimed to be perfect, just forgiven....

Have fun golfing with the right wing.

Erin:

With God, nothing is impossible.

Noah didn't gather the animals, God did.

And the Flood story is by no means a fantasy, TR. These same rabbis you quote reject Jesus Christ. So much for their exegesis skills. I know many Christian/Jewish rabbis who would absolutely disagree with you.

If you reject the flood story then you must even reject the creation account and just about the entire Bible. Now, I know that would make Hal flitter like a stuck pig, however, it's an abominable lie that the Flood did not occur.

Sorry TR, the Great Flood did occur. It was a real event in real time. God is not mocked.

it's an abominable lie that the Flood did not occur.

OK, HisMan...

Where is another fact, another RELIABLE source that the flood did happen?

And you CANT use the bible.

do stuck pigs flitter?

If you are correct HisMan, how do you account for the fact that 90% of the world probably doesn't agree with you about the literal trugh of the Bible? Is God that sneaky or are people that stupid?

Midnite678:

I don't have to insult your intelliigence.

You do a fine job of it yourself.

Hal:

Hal, actually I prefer golfing with my Red Hot Chili Pepper driver and Ping Zings. Right wings make me slice. (MidNite678...that's a joke). Are you laughing Hal?

By whom have you been forgiven? If there is no God as you assert, then why would you need forgiveness? Whom did you offend?

This how filthy and disgusting Amanda Marcotte really is:

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In a post describing a Catholic seminar presenting inaccurate information on birth control (June 14, 2006) she used as a caption to the photo illustrating the article: ‘Q: What if Mary had taken Plan B after the Lord filled her with his hot, white, sticky Holy Spirit? A: You’d have to justify your misogyny with another ancient mythology

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Marcotte

"I was so, so lucky to have an Italian mother for next to Jewish mothers are the best in the world."

We do you think that? Or why would you say that? I think it's rather mean. I mean you're insulting everyone else's Mom's. IMO, my Mom is the best in the world. She's always there for me and takes good care of my hamster when I'm away at school. And my Dad's the best too : )

Hal,
People ARE that stupid.

Curious...who forgave you?

Jess,
I think it's absolutely adorable that you love your hamster so much. Hamsters are pretty cool!

hamster comment from me

Midnite678:
I don't have to insult your intelliigence.
You do a fine job of it yourself.
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HisMan:

You know something? This blog was a lot better and civil BEFORE YOU CAME BACK. Everyone was getting along just dandy, and you had to swoop in and shit all over it.

You're not a nice person, and no matter how much you pray, you'll always be ugly on the inside.

I did not insult you, or your intelligence today, as you've done to me.
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Mods:

He's an inch away from running Rae off, and I am about to follow if one of y'all doesnt do something about him and his intollerance of people and ideas (other than his).

"Lies? That pro choicers are irresponsible, that they are 'obsessed with baby killing', 'love' abortion, certain people would be 'happy' to crush 'the little parasites' head with a hammer"

TR,
I guess you didn't see this posted by MK earlier today. Sorry for our misconception of the pro-abort movement. Our bad.

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MAJeff, the God of Biscuits
January 30, 2008 at 7:50 pm
And, whenever given the chance, I decorate my bathroom in red.
I think I need the statue of fetuses on spikes to really make it a good bathroom, though. That’d make an awesome free-standing toilet paper holder.

Hal:

You're like an addiction. But since you asked.....

The Bible teaches us that the road to perdition (hell) is narrow and many are those who follow it and the road to life (heaven) is narrow and few are that find it.

So, it doesn't surprise me nor bother me that I am, in this world, a member of a minority. However, as the word says, God and I are a majority and who can counter His will?

I've really got to go. My friend JD Hill just called is at the golf tourney me and put me on the phone with Fred Belitnikoff (sp?) and Andre Reed, two NFL greats. I have to go. God Bless you and don't abort any babies today.

the forgiven comment was an attempt at a joke.

I'm not forgiven, nor do I need to be.

Why did God make people so stupid Sunshine?

MidnIte678:

Did you tell me to go jump up a rope or not?

You just can't handle the truth, can you?

Midnite,

Here's a link with the info that you asked about the flood. Just delete anything biblical you may see. Your question is explained biblically and scientifically, but I don't know if you'll accept it. It's worth a shot.

http://www.havefaith.org/new_page_4c.htm

Hal,
People choose to be stupid. The truth is out there for those who choose to seek it. Stupid people don't.

(My opinion, I'm not trying to insult anyone.)

HisMan,

Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

HisMan,

The rope comment was a joke. You are just an evil, bitter, old man with nothing better to do apparently.

You should take some civil lessons from MK, and Bethany. They are both religous, but they dont attack people b/c they're ideas are different. They may attack the idea, but not the person. They are civil, warm loving women, and you are the complete opposite. You HATE people who do not agree with you, and that is truely sad.

You know something else? I'd probably be willing to be pro-life if was not for ignorant assholes like you in this world. You make your side look fantatical and crazy. Good job man!
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Sunshine:

I shall read it over. Thank you for including something that has science facts and not JUST religion. I do appreciate it.

Hal:

For once and I think by accident you speak truth and by your own words you aren't forgiven.

I ask the same questions that you do, why does God create such stupid people?

Jess:

C'mon. All mothers are cool.....except the ones who abort their babies...oh...they're not mothers.

MidNite678:

You are one spolied brat.

You're welcome, midnite.

HisMan:

No, I am not a spoiled brat.

Unlike you, I understand right from wrong when it comes to dealing with people.
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I treat people the way that I would like to be treated, and you dont.

You hate what you cant understand, so you end up hating the person instead of the idea. People like you are the reason there are still hate crimes in America today.

Just b/c someone disagrees with you does not mean that they are not rational, logical, sane or going to hell.

If you're the way God wants everyone to treat people in this world, I am converting to Atheism.

"If you're the way God wants everyone to treat people in this world, I am converting to Atheism."

Welcome to the light Midnite.

Hey midnite, just a thought...remember the time when an imposter HisMan was here? I think I remember him/her equating hot dogs with Texas Red's name. This may be the imposter back again. The imposter also used alot of racial sterotypes. I may be wrong, but it's just a theory.

You know, when MK or Bobby or Bethany try to explain religion to me, HisMan, they actually make an attempt to rationalize it. They try to explain it, often doing a very good job. They don't just throw scripture at someone and expect them to believe it. They're sweet about it, too. You could learn something from them.

More flies with honey than vinegar, cherub.

Sunshine:

I doubt it. This sounds like the real HisMan...

Sunshine- I remember the impostor HisMan. Honestly, it wasn't very far from the real thing.

He's golfing with the same folks at the real guy. So, he's either gone back and read those old posts, or he's for real.

Gotta love the responses to my posts over there...

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MikeEss
January 31, 2008 at 10:39 am

“At Jill’s people that are prochoice as well as pro life are able to converse without falling into the habit of attacking each other. It’s really quite refreshing.”

I’m sensing “Jill’s” must be a “Republican Compromise” kind of joint: You’re free to say whatever you want as long as you acknowledge we’re right and you’re wrong. And if you use one of those gutter words, we’ll just have to keep you away from the nice Stepford People who are having a refreshing discussion - about how “pro-life” is the only acceptable position…

I bet it’s really stimulating over there…

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dan l
January 31, 2008 at 10:39 am

I was very respectful when I came here. What’s with the name calling? Why don’t you come over to jill’s and actually “discuss” things. We have rules over there. Everything gets posted without being checked first, no one uses foul language, and you can attack an idea but please don’t attack the person.

Mk,

The part you’re missing here is that nobody is interested in what you’re saying. People only pay attention to you for the express purpose of mocking you.

Why would anybody go to Jill Stanek’s web page to listen to a word you say. Your history of lying, making shit up, being completely disconnected from reality and that’s just in addition to hating women and queer folks?

MidNite678:

I have to really go but I think I need to clarify this whole thing.

First, I start the day reading the blog about Ms. Marcotte. Her attitudes and comments sicken me. I dealt with it in my way by trying to be humorous and I know I can be very sarcastic. I was joking about being Italian and everyone seemed to be going along with the humor. I was also mixing in some truth.

You come in and out of the blue tell me to go jump a rope and then call me a profane word and then you respond bragging how you know how to talk to people. You are one arrogant and immature little girl and I seriously doubt you are ready to accept the truths of Scripture apart from some catastrophic event happening in your life.

You don't like what I say? Tough.

I'll keep speaking the truth and I won't let the likes of you, and you are a typology, who by intimidation, tries to get us pro-lifers to change not only what we say but how we say it.

You think you can insult me and turn the table on me by calling me an insulter? What a crock. And I'll say it again. You are a spoiled, domineering, self-absorbed little girl who if she doesn't get her way, resorts to name calling (how's old man and a**hole for you) stomps her feet for attention until she gets her way. I guarantee that if you were my daughter your behavior would have been modified long ago.

As far as love goes, you have absolutely no idea about what love is. Love is the cross. It's speaking the truth despite the fact that you may get crucified for doing it. I don;t need to be liked by you or any one else on this site. I do not live for the approval of men. You know MidNite, you know who really hates you...it's Hal...you see...becasue He's wiling to support you in your own self-destruction.

And Hal, enabler that you are, you will never escape the guilt you feel internally for aborting your first two children. Your mockery of forgiveness is evidence of that.

MK- I go to places like that too, where the dissenting opinions are laughed at and mocked. To be honest, they can be quite enjoyable communities too.

The issue is that some people simply don't like dissent or conflict. People who disagree with them annoy or anger them. One example would be a facebook group called "Atheist, Agnostic, and Non-Religious". A Christian or theist comes in, we eat them for dinner. Other groups along the same vein can be very civil and courteous. There's people like this on both sides of every issue. Some people just don't enjoy or humor debate the way others do.

Remember, it's just the internet!

I don't know, it's just that I never found anything offensive in the real one's posts, unless the truth about God and the truth about abortion tended to offend the unbelievers and the pro-aborts.

However, I was EXTREMELY offended for the sake of the unbelievers and the pro-aborts by the comments that the "fake" one made.

who knows.

HisMan, saying someone can't know 'real love' because they don't have Jesus is just silly.

Erin,

How is it "silly" ?

..and how do you define what "REAL Love" is?

Because it's absurd?

I don't have any religion. I am perfectly capable of wonderful, powerful love for my family, friends, and fellow man. It's stupid and ignorant to assume you know that I feel or don't feel anything. I'm the only one in my head.

Another note,
I love HisMan, what he stands for and stands up for. The truth is sometimes VERY hard to hear, and if you're not willing, IMPOSSIBLE to understand.

Trust me on this one: If you have the truth about God in your heart, nothing that HisMan says is offensive. He is one of the most loving and insightful posters on this site. It is a pro-life site, keep in mind.

Jill's comments seem to be "to the point" without reservation, also. I don't see any of you condeming her (ok, sometimes, but not as harsh as you're being with HisMan) or telling her that you'll become an atheist because of her.

I don't know, it's just a thought.

I was not assuming anything...you brought that out by yourself...I was merely asking a question.

Just because you don't have any religion doesn't give you the right to insult those that do.

YOu really haven't answered either of my questions.

HisMan:

The rope comment was a joke, whether you choose to accept that or not is your choice.

And no, I didnt insult you untill you insulted my intelligence. So yes, I am allowed to attack you back.

As for love, I bet I know about it than you do. I guess according to you, I dont love my Papa, and I shouldnt grieve over the fact that he is DYING IN FRONT OF ME... Thanks for the sympathy. You're a GREAT CHRISTIAN.

As for being spoiled; I guess I should stop paying my bills, working, and going to school. I should move back in with my parents and let them take care of me for the rest of my life so I can fit the stereotype.

And I am beyond thankful that I am not your daughter. I feel bad for your children HisMan. They are probably just as ugly on the inside as you are. They probably have no compassion for people. My parents are very PROUD of the way I turned out, thanks for asking.
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Now, I am leaving this blog, and I probably will not return. You started this, and you cant handle someone standing up to you. So you spat out evil things to make them feel degraded.

You are kicking someone who is already down HisMan, and that says ALOT of your character. My life is the toilet, and your trying to point out things that are wrong with me? You are a bitter old man.

With your attitude; I bet I'll get into Heaven before you will.
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Goodbye Elizabeth, Lyssie, Erin, Rae, Bethany, Bobby, MK, & everyone else that has been nice to me.

I wish y'all nothing but happiness in life.

. "I guarantee that if you were my daughter your behavior would have been modified long ago."

Oh, yeah, that's the real deal. I shudder to think how this guy "modifies" behavior. Maybe a good domestic violence beating like in the Godfather?

Anyway, Midnite,I don't hate you at all. I think you're great.

It's silly because it's false. I define real love as the powerful, unconditional devotion and compassion I feel for my parents. The protective, terrified emotion I have for my little brother. The sorrow I feel when I know someone close to me is in pain. The boundless joy I experience when I know someone I love is happy. The ceaseless wonder and fullness I feel when I learn something new.

I understand and know love. To claim I- or Midnite- don't, is denying part of our humanity. It's tremendously offensive.

:-(

Bye, midnite. I guess I can't say I blame you. HisMan is hard to deal with, I know. *huggles* I hope things get better.

Look Mid:

Let's stop the bickering.

Peace.

Erin,
Please don't look at it as being offensive. Trust me, before I knew God I thought I knew all about love. It's a supernatural thing, you know, when you learn about God, the love you thought you knew becomes a stranger in the past. A true, new meaning of love overcomes you & you cannot fathom the extent of it.

It's out of true love for you that HisMan wants to share this great news with you. As do I. As does God.

I do love my hamster Sandy (no not our Sandy, my Sandy is a boy and though he does like to type he hasn't mastered typing in English).
My boyfriend told me he wanted to get a hamster today. He's been thinking of getting one of his own for awhile. I hope he does, I think he'd be a good father, he's been really nice to Sandy. He took Sandy one time and put him on his chest under his vest. There was a little bump under his vest going up and down as Sandy was breathing... so cute!

Jess,
I believe that we're still waiting for a picture of this adorable hamster....

https://mail.wsc.ma.edu/exchange/jgray1255/Inbox/FW:%20Sandy%20Photos.EML/1_multipart_xF8FF_2_%20%20%20Sandy%20Photos.eml/P9080915.JPG/C58EA28C-18C0-4a97-9AF2-036E93DDAFB3/P9080915.JPG?attach=1

Does this work?

Sorry TR, the Great Flood did occur. It was a real event in real time. God is not mocked.

Posted by: HisMan at January 31, 2008 12:00 PM
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Only according to the inexcusably illiterate.

When I was still a Lutheran, I hated my life.

Being an atheist is not a handicap for understanding the human capacity for love. Love is not anything supernatural. If you really want to get down to it, it's nothing but a chemically-induced capacity in your brain. That doesn't, however, make it any less real.

Part of what I can't stand about Christianity is the infuriating superiority complex. "Oh, you might think you've got it good, but we've got it better! Be like us! Think like us! Then, you'll get a cute puppy and bunnies will hop around you and there'll be no more war and blah blah blah."

You have no right to tell me I don't know real love. If you think you do, then you're an egotistical jerk. That's all there is to it.

That's his Grandma (my Mom) feeding him his favorite food, strawberry yogurt!

Jess- nah, you need a username and password.

Erin,

What you define as "love" are strong, powerful EMOTIONS...based on 'feelings'.

Hisman stated "Love is the cross"...meaning, the real love he was talking about was Christ's decision to die for us (you, me and everybody else here) to save us from our sins.

Real love is a DECISION to love the person no matter what they do to you.

What if your family disowned you, your friends betray you, other people rejected you? Would you still love them with your "strong, powerful devotion"?

Jess,
I can't open it...it says I need a password or something.

If you're the way God wants everyone to treat people in this world, I am converting to Atheism.

Posted by: midnite678 at January 31, 2008 12:37 PM
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People like HisMan were a big part of why I began questioning my Southern Baptist upbringing

Erin,
No, an egotistical jerk would be one who had that great news to share and kept it to himself. If this is what one truly believes, why do find it so hard to think that it's coming from a place of "good"?

RSD- yes. I would. But part of knowing love is knowing they'd never do something like that.

God is a despot, anyway. Seriously. Check out the bible. He's a very mean guy.

It's not THE religion that makes you a Christian, guys, or brings God into your life. The religions live out of buildings made of brick or stone. When God resides within you, that's what makes you a Christian.

How could I get it to show up here?

Does this work?
https://mail.wsc.ma.edu/exchange/jgray1255/Inbox/FW:%20Sandy%20Photos.EML/1_multipart_xF8FF_2_%20%20%20Sandy%20Photos.eml/P9080915.JPG/C58EA28C-18C0-4a97-9AF2-036E93DDAFB3/P9080915.JPG?attach=1
If so sorry it's not the same picture but it's still him.

"But part of knowing love is knowing they'd never do something like that"...
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Then again, you're expecting something in return for your "love"...

Christ's love was an example of selflessness...expecting nothing in return...your CHOICE whether to accept His Love or not...

Hey..guess what happens when you die and you don't accept Christ's love?

Shouldn't the most powerful being in existence have better things to do than care whether his little bitty creations worship him? It's pretty despotic to create something just so it can worship you. Shows some wicked narcissism, or some wicked low self-esteem.

Doesn't God reside in everyone? It's just a matter of listening?

"Hey..guess what happens when you die and you don't accept Christ's love?"

The exact same thing that happens when you die and you do accept Christ's love.

RSD- Oh, I know this one!

NOTHING!

Yep. We all go the same place- the ground.

http://ma.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30935956&id=45405475

Look Mid:

Let's stop the bickering.

Peace.

Posted by: HisMan at January 31, 2008 1:38 PM
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Individuals like you are a very big reason why some people want NOTHING to do with religion.

Awwww!! Cuteness!!!

"Shouldn't the most powerful being in existence have better things to do than care whether his little bitty creations worship him?"
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Sure, why would God care what happens to us little folks? He loves us so much that He wants us to be with Him in Paradise/Heaven after our time here on earth is done.

That's why Christ came....to show us the way.

Sorry Hal....it's not the same...

Erin,
Please don't look at it as being offensive. Trust me, before I knew God I thought I knew all about love. It's a supernatural thing, you know, when you learn about God, the love you thought you knew becomes a stranger in the past. A true, new meaning of love overcomes you & you cannot fathom the extent of it.

It's out of true love for you that HisMan wants to share this great news with you. As do I. As does God.

Posted by: Sunshine at January 31, 2008 1:39 PM
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Its this kind of egocentricity and arrogance that some people find very offensive, and others merely find innane and tedious. Jews, Moslems, Budhists - NO one can POSSIBLY know *real love* but Christians -

Hal..So Christ's love counts as nothing?

...I shudder for your souls...and I pray you see the truth before it's too late...

I don't have any religion. I am perfectly capable of wonderful, powerful love for my family, friends, and fellow man. It's stupid and ignorant to assume you know that I feel or don't feel anything. I'm the only one in my head.

Posted by: Erin at January 31, 2008 1:26 PM

Can't help but think Erin that if you had any religious faith you wouldn't have been lonely and desparate enough to seek out love and companionship with a compulsive pathological liar. Sorry. Just had to say it.

TR,

"NO one can POSSIBLY know *real love* but Christians "....

Again...that's not what I said...Real Love is a decision to love another person no matter what.

You can do that with or without religion...unforunately, it takes a little time to realize that w/o religion.

Look, if God really wants everyone in heaven, he has two really great choices.

1. Come down here and give the people with half a brain ACTUAL PROOF. Perform actual miracles able to be monitored by scientific tools.

2. Just let everyone in heaven anyway. If he makes the rules, he could do it. If he doesn't, it proves he's a despotic dictator who just likes to watch people grovel helplessly.

Midnite,
Remember why you came here in the first place, please stay.

RSD,
Christ's love counts for something, but you can love others also, even if you don't love Christ.

Mid,
Asking for Hisman to be banned would only be fair if we get the Choice Sisterhood on this blog banned as well, aka TRed, Laura (especially Laura!), Sally and the like. But we let them stay. It shows Choice's true colors, as in Bloody Red. Which was Jill's point to begin with. Anyways...

So stay. Some of us Lifers actually want you here, even if you are pro-choice.

Peace.

Sandy- not with him anymore. Blissfully happy. Doing wonderfully in life. Still no God. *shrugs* Ups and downs is what's called LIFE.

Look, if God really wants everyone in heaven, he has two really great choices.

1. Come down here and give the people with half a brain ACTUAL PROOF. Perform actual miracles able to be monitored by scientific tools.

2. Just let everyone in heaven anyway. If he makes the rules, he could do it. If he doesn't, it proves he's a despotic dictator who just likes to watch people grovel helplessly.
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Answer:
1) He already did....2000 years ago.

2) He can't force us...we were given free will to choose. Whether to be with Him or not.

MidNite:

Look, I am truly sorry that you are having a hard time. I have had my share of them and I gurantee you that there is a way out. I know God loves you beyond what you can imagine. I am also sorry if I haven't loved you appropriately on this site. MK and Bethany are so good hearted. Sometimes I can be a bull in a China shop. I know this and I am sure that God is not pleased with that. So, I promise to work on that, will you please forgive me, OK?

The truth is that your solution is not to be found in any person either on this site or in your home or anywhere on the planet. The solution is to be found in no other than Jesus Christ. We can only lead you to Him.

Have you ever thought that maybe your situation has been brought upon by yourself and your way of thinking? The first step at getting better is admitting that we are the ones at fault. Some call it repentance.

Hal would have you stay where you are in your current belief system. The same ways of thinking that have landed you where you're at now. That's not love, it's co-dependence. I want to see you come to a knowlege of the truth and be healed.

Now you may argue that nothing you've done is the reason you're having a bad time and that it's the circumstances you find yourself in, however, how we deal with the cricumstances we are in, good or bad, defines our character. Ever heard the statement, "though He slay me, I will trust Him"? That's an expression of utter trust in God that no matter where I find myself to be He can be trusted. I know, it's hard to understand, but can you imagine living a life where you trust in God so much that nothing on earth, not sickness, not death, nothing can shake you? That's the goal of my life. It's possible if we work at it.

I'm going to pray earnestly for you, I promise. And Hal, keeps your hands off of MidNite.

Hal, you are very hard for me to deal with. I have no respect for a male who did what you did to your two children and then trivializes it by coming on this site and supporting same.

As far as my children go, they are the most respectful kids I know of. Yes, and they were not spared the rod as the Book of Proverbs instructs. I could provide a list of their godly attributes, however, I'm sure you would resort to the same sort of loser pitiful response. I really pity you Hal.

Hisman,

I'm gonna need some confirmation that that was really you...

Sandy,
There are plenty of pious, religious women who are in horrible, abusive relationship. After all they can't get divorced.

I heard this on relevant radio today for what it's worth...

"If someone points out that you are a sinner, you can be pretty sure it's because he sees in you, the potential to become a saint..."

sweet!

Here's a link with the info that you asked about the flood. Just delete anything biblical you may see. Your question is explained biblically and scientifically, but I don't know if you'll accept it. It's worth a shot.

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Its a really pathetic excuse for 'science'.

TR,
Sorry. Like I said, it was worth a shot.

Sunshine did you see the link?

HisMan,

Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Posted by: Sunshine at January 31, 2008 12:28 PM
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He is NOT 'casting pearls' - he is showing just how ugly "christianity" can be.

MK:

Please. Do you think I am infant?

Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Posted by: Sunshine at January 31, 2008 12:28 PM
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He is NOT 'casting pearls' - he is showing just how ugly "christianity" can be.
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TR..you just gave a perfect example of the parable with your treatment/ undertanding of Christianity.

Erin,

Love cannot be forced. You claim to know love so you must know this.

It's not that God needs us to worship Him...(He doesn't need anything) It's that He desires us to love Him. And real love must be given willingly. No coercion. No threats. No fear. Given freely.

There are some people that believe in God out of fear, but this is not what He wants. He wants conversation, He wants hugs, He wants us to reflect Him back to the world.

And if some person, (he who shall remain unnamed) turns you off of God, then stop looking at that person. The relationship must begin with you and Him...not you and other "Christians"...

You say you are looking for miracles? I've posted any number of miracles on here. Incorruptible saints, apparitions, Eucharistic miracles.

But seriously, would any miracle be enough? It's always going to come down to faith. It's always going to be up to you, whether or not you accept these things.

What's that quote..."For the man who believes, no proof is needed. For the man who doesn't believe, no proof is enough"?

I don't think I'm better than you. But I do think I'm better off...does that make sense, without sounding condescending? I believe that I am taken care of, looked after, loved by something bigger than myself, and part of something wonderful.

This doesn't make you less, or bad, or incapable of love.

But it makes me so happy. So at peace. So, so, oh I don't know, just so...

And I want you to have some. I just want to share.

Hisman,

Thanks. Just had to be sure...hope midnite comes back. I forwarded her your post...

MK...AMEN!!

TR,

"NO one can POSSIBLY know *real love* but Christians "....

Again...that's not what I said...Real Love is a decision to love another person no matter what.

You can do that with or without religion...unforunately, it takes a little time to realize that w/o religion.

Posted by: RSD at January 31, 2008 2:04 PM
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That isnt what HisMan said.

TR..you just gave a perfect example of the parable with your treatment/ undertanding of Christianity.

Posted by: RSD at January 31, 2008 2:20 PM
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Refusing to admit how ugly and hate filled HisMan is doesnt do you any favors. And pretending I cant 'understand christianity' makes you look foolish as well. I understand it very well. I do not buy into the mythology of it. But I do know what christ taught and HisMans vile nastiness and his irrational hatred does NOT reflect anything taught by jesus.

TR...

...it's what he meant as 'the cross'...

How does that saying go? "NO greater love than one who lays down his life for another"

That's what Christ did....for us.

Hamsters are cute but I really like domestic rats. They are much more interactive and much more intelligent than hamsters. I got interested in them when I was taking a clinical psych course and we were looking at rats learning mazes and I got a couple as pets. They were affectionate, curious, very interactive and intelligent to a fault. Sassarats lived in a large old parrot cage and could open the door of her cage, get out to steal anything that caught her fancy, then get back in the cage while we were gone. I cleaned out her cage and found 2 of my dish cloths shredded into her nest. They dont live very long though - only about 3 years.

"I understand it very well. I do not buy into the mythology of it. But I do know what christ taught and HisMans vile nastiness and his irrational hatred does NOT reflect anything taught by jesus.
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TR,

I'm not defending HisMan...he can stand up for himself....I'm standing by Christianity.

And I don't believe you understood it very well if you think it's 'Mythology'.

Jess,
I still can't see it! Can you e-mail it to Bethany maybe so she can post the picture here? I just love hamsters & haven't had one since I was young. They just make me smile. I'd love to see yours!

TR...

...it's what he meant as 'the cross'...

How does that saying go? "NO greater love than one who lays down his life for another"

That's what Christ did....for us.

Posted by: RSD at January 31, 2008 2:33 PM
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And its still arrogant and egocentric to try to pretend that only christians can know 'real love'

Just a thought ~

I think we need to remember that whatever we post on the internet is out there forever. We can't take it back. It's not like a phone call where we hang up and it's over. It's more like a letter that you write to someone, and instead of mailing it to them, you have it published in the local paper for everyone to read.

Each name on this blog is a unique person who deserves our respect. Even if we disagree, we can try to be gracious in our responses. Maybe re-reading our response before clicking on "post" can help us weed out or re-write the ones that we might regret. God bless everyone.

"And its still arrogant and egocentric to try to pretend that only christians can know 'real love'

Posted by: TexasRed
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Can you point out where somebody said that?

"I understand it very well. I do not buy into the mythology of it. But I do know what christ taught and HisMans vile nastiness and his irrational hatred does NOT reflect anything taught by jesus.
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TR,

I'm not defending HisMan...he can stand up for himself....I'm standing by Christianity.

And I don't believe you understood it very well if you think it's 'Mythology'.

Posted by: RSD at January 31, 2008 2:37 PM
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You mean I cant 'understand' christianity unless I buy into the supernatural aspects of it? Thats more arrogance and egocentricity on your part. I was raised as a Southern Baptist, saved and baptised before I was 13, and I rededicated on several different occasions. But as I got older less and less of what I was taught, and what I saw around me, made sense and people like HisMan had a whole lot to do with me beginning to ask questions. Your refusal to face just how ugly his attitudes are and your pathetic attempt to try to make excuses for him and try to pretend his ugliness is somehow admirable just underscores your inability to come to terms with reality.

TR,
Why, if you don't mind me asking, why did you let other people (man) disrupt your faith in God?

"And its still arrogant and egocentric to try to pretend that only christians can know 'real love'

Posted by: TexasRed
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Can you point out where somebody said that?

Posted by: RSD at January 31, 2008 2:42 PM
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This was from HisMan:

As far as love goes, you have absolutely no idea about what love is. Love is the cross. It's speaking the truth despite the fact that you may get crucified for doing it.
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"Love is the cross" - only christians can know love

Just how arrogant is it for HisMan to try to say that a Rabbi doesnt know or understand the old testament?

TR,

Do I detect a hint of projection there?

I do not condone anybody's negative attitude towards anybody else...but that's their choice and they have to face the consequences of their actions.

If you really understood Christianity, you wouldn't have left it.

"..only christians can know love"
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TR,
You were the one who stated this assumption.
Re-check the posts.

TR,
Why, if you don't mind me asking, why did you let other people (man) disrupt your faith in God?

Posted by: Anonymous at January 31, 2008 2:48 PM
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That is such an incredibly stupid question. The people around me caused me to question what I had been taught all my life. I didnt 'let' anyone 'disrupt' anything. I lost faith in southern baptists and organized religion a long time before I simply came to terms with the fact that I simply didnt buy into all the superstition and mythology Id been taught as I ws growing up. I am an agnostic. I believe there is 'a higher power' but I do not accept that he is the deity defined by the bible and I certainly do not accept any deity represented by someone like HisMan. His arrogant insistance that a Rabbi couldnt possibly really know the old testament and his irrational insistance that doubting the story of the Noah, the flood, etc is an "abomination" are just two examples of his egocentricity. His comments to Midnight show just how vile and hate filled and ugly his attitudes are.

TR,

Do I detect a hint of projection there?(that may be what youd try to pretend)

I do not condone anybody's negative attitude towards anybody else...but that's their choice and they have to face the consequences of their actions.

If you really understood Christianity, you wouldn't have left it.

Posted by: RSD at January 31, 2008 2:56 PM
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That's more proof that you cant come to terms with reality or cope with the truth. You just cant face the fact that someone can simply stop believing in the mythology and superstition that YOU hold so dear to your heart. Its just too threatening for you.

TR,
I see. The only question that is not stupid is the one you ask. Wait, that's right, you don't ask questions. You state your truth and nothing but your truth. Couldn't this also be considered arrogant?

TR,

People call it "FAITH"...which looks like you lost a while back.

"..only christians can know love"
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TR,
You were the one who stated this assumption.
Re-check the posts.

Posted by: RSD at January 31, 2008 2:59 PM
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I did. And I proved my point.

Well there you have it, the Redneck from the Friendly state is a self made believer in a "higher power". But, the logic gets worse. Agnostic; one who believes that it is IMPOSSIBLE to know whether there is a God . Houghton miflin.
So, the redneck from the friendly state knows one thing absolutely, that it is impossible to know whether God exist. A absolute unknower is trying to explain his ignorance of thinking by being a contradiction.
But, don't worry, this Texasmoron is going to make up a defintion of agnostic,like Humpty Dumpty.
Love it, "higher power", the total extent of this oxymoron from the Friendly State's thinking about theology.
What a joke.

TR,

People call it "FAITH"...which looks like you lost a while back.

Posted by: RSD at January 31, 2008 3:12 PM
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Exactly. Just like I lost 'faith' in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. And for the exact same reasons.

What point? You're the one who stated it and then you argued that it was egotistical and arrogant..etc..etc...?

You're not making any sense...

TR,
I see. The only question that is not stupid is the one you ask. Wait, that's right, you don't ask questions. You state your truth and nothing but your truth. Couldn't this also be considered arrogant?

Posted by: Sunshine at January 31, 2008 3:11 PM
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Not by anyone with any integrity or intelligence ...

Yes, yllas, youre a joke - showing your backside to the world and trying to pretend youre anything more than an idiot and a fool - thats as laughable as it gets.

and who decides that, TR..YOU?
Nope. No arrogance there.

What point? You're the one who stated it and then you argued that it was egotistical and arrogant..etc..etc...?

You're not making any sense...

Posted by: RSD at January 31, 2008 3:24 PM
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Your reading comprehension and your retention are virtually non existant.

and who decides that, TR..YOU?
Nope. No arrogance there.

Posted by: Sunshine at January 31, 2008 3:28 PM
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Im not the one trying to pretend anyone who doesnt agree with me is going to 'hell'. Thats your weird little quirk.

Hey Redneck,
Does your "higher power" talk to you personally?
Does this "higher power" create anything or exist only in your mind?
Why are you ignoring your ignorance by not knowing the contradiction in being a agnostic that knows a "higher power" exist?
Do you understand your lack of knowledge about the defintion of agnostic, and can't make up a self made definition without being Humpty Dumpty?

agnostic
1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
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I do not 'know' if there is a higher power or not. It cannot be proven so it cannot be known. I believe there probably is a 'higher power' 'god' or whatever you want to call it but there is no way to prove it and if it cannot be proven it cannot be known. I know I do NOT believe in judeo xtian mythology.

Oh look yllass has another 'identity'

"Your reading comprehension and your retention are virtually non existant. "
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TR,
*SIGH* I refuse to take part in your insulting behaviour...let me know when you can discuss/ debate w/o relying on insults..

Once again, A failed Protestant, this one named Texasredneck, proves what happens to Protestants once they believe in the nebulous "higher power" theology.
They become worshipers of a "higher power" that aborts life from being a "higher power".
I can understand your logic redneck, it all began when you thought God was a murder from the beginning of time and never understood the only remnant of a sacrament in your denomination which was baptism.
Typical ignorant failed Protestant, and a living breathing oxymoron from the Friendly State.

Sunshine, I'll send Bethany the pictures and maybe she can do something with them, Sandy is cute!

Cool! Thank you Jess. I need a smile right about now.

TR, I never said that.

Please.

Your getting more ignorant Texasneck. "I believe there is a higher power". Now, your not trying to morph into Humpty Dumpty and define agnostic to mean what you want it to mean. You do not know if there is a higher power? That is not what you wrote idiot Redneck. Your ability to be unable to understand a contradiction, is what made you the fool you are. Which means, you don't know if you know, even about your "higher power" theology.
The only thing you absloutely know is that you don't know. What a joke. This ignorant Texasredneck is making itself into the only absolute idiot known.

Sunshine,
Everyone could use a smile right now, check this one out, this is going to open, http://cuteoverload.com/ (unfortunately it's not Sandy)

Keep looking like a fool yllass - its the only thing youre able to do

yllas that was uncalled for.

yllas that was uncalled for.

Posted by: Jess at January 31, 2008 4:05 PM
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Consider the source - he cant help but make a fool of himself - he doesnt know anything else

TexasRed, Yllas, not trying to be picky but could y'all just tone it down a bit and just attack people's arguments and not the people personally. I understand that it gets heated but it doesn't have to get so personal. And please respect that i'm just trying to do my job as a moderator. Thanks!

Thannk you, Jess! That was awesome & such a lifter-upper! The hamsters definately take the cake! Second place would be the Pom. I especially like the photoshopped pics at the end.

LOL!

Thanks again & I can't wait to see Sandy!
It she a teddybear hamster?

Well OxymoronfromTexas.
Does this higher power talk to you?
Does this higher power create anything?
Does this higher power agree with everything you think,wish, desire?
If this higher power contradicts you, why do you believe in this higher power?
Actually, your "higher power theology", Texasredneck, is yourself thinking about yourself, and coming to the conclusion that you don't know jack. You absolutely don't know. A agnostic.
AS for Jesse, this is a example of what happens to the mind and logic of a failed Protestant that was to young to know what that preacher was trying to say to that oxymoron from Texas.

Short haired Teddy Bear! FTW!

"calling anyone 'pro abortion' and 'pro aborts' which is a lie even if you wont face that fact"
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Yet another pro abort crock. The reason abortion advocates use the euphemism "choice" is because you won't face (or admit) the fact that the option you have to cosmeticize by euphemism is ABORTION, a savage, brutal, unjust, and bloody act of deliberate, premeditated violence which kills an innocent baby.

"Choice" may equal "abortion" in your mind, but not in reality, where

a.) killing preborn children was legalized by an unconstitutional act of judicial fiat BECAUSE the proabortion movment KNEW it would be rejected by the American public if we were actually allowed to vote on it;

b.) the elements of coercion, manipulation, fear, desperation, ignorance and deception at work in most child-killing decisions are far too numerous to call them acts of free choice;

c.) the person with the most at stake, the innocent child targeted/scheduled for slaughter, is given no choice in the matter;

d.) people allowed to live commit many more acts of volition (aka, "choice") than those who are killed; so, the more people are slaughtered, the fewer choices there are. (That's why genocide and totalitarian tyrannies go hand in hand, but civilized, free, just, humane societies respect human life from conception to natural death.)

Just sent it to Bethany.

Ah Bethany,
I am trying to get this Texasmoron to explain his higher power theology from which comes his ignorance of not knowing that he absolutely does not know.
So far, the Redneck from the Friendly State has failed to answer the questions about this nebulous higher power theology and resorted to ignoring those questions by making typical redneck insults.
In fact, it appears that this oxyMORON from Texas, can only make insults to others when asked about his higher power theology, or any other matter being discussed.

You guys should watch HisMan and me as an example of how to get along. He pities me, I pity him. He has no respect for me, I have no respect for him. I He thinks I'm a poor excuse of a man, I think the same of him. Other than that, we're nice. He told me to keep my hands off Midnite, but 1) I never had my hands on Midnite and 2) it's none of business.

I don't want him to be banned from this site (I need the laughs) but I can't for the life of me understand why anyone here has any patience with him or his views.

Hal,
For the same reason people have patience with you or your views.

(or mine, for that matter!)

:)

Hey OxyMORON from the Friendly State,
Only a fool does not answer questions about his his "higher power" that he believes in.
You accuse others of lacking comprehension skills, when you can't understand the contradiction of being a person that, A; not Gnostic; Knows.
Which means, you must admit/believe/ that you don't know about your "personal higher power theology" TO BE a AGNOSTIC.
See Bethany, I am only trying to get this failed mind to understand contradictions of logic and get this Texasoxymoron, to understand how it became a person, that believes in a "higher power", that allows the murder of creation.
Are you still uable to comprehend your foolishness of being a person that personally believes in a "higher power", that you absolutely know, that you can't know exist or not exist , TexasMoron?

Sunshine. Good enough. Thanks for the reminder.

Amanda, I curse you to henceforth think of the blood of abortion every time you see or wear the color red.

LOL, kooky Jill thinks she can do magic, now.

"Hey..guess what happens when you die and you don't accept Christ's love?"

The exact same thing that happens when you die and you do accept Christ's love.

Posted by: Hal at January 31, 2008 1:53 PM

Okay,

this exchange reminds me of my friend who was maybe 22 at the time. She was unsure of her career choice, boyfriend etc. depressed crying and she said she didn't know if she would ever be happy and looked at me, also young at the time, and said maybe she would be happy in the afterlife. She said maybe there is life after death. I didn't have anything really profoundly helpful to say but later I told a friend about it and he said, yeh, and maybe there is death after life. I had to laugh since his delivery was so smooth. Anyway I hadn't thought about that in a very long time.

My point is whether you believe in the afterlife or not, the time to do what is good, right and helpful is now. Not just to be helpful, but also to be happy. If you can help someone, do it sooner rather than later.

Erin,

I believe you when say you feel real love. God loves all of us, like a father, our Heavenly Father, even when we don't feel it. His love is unconditional, freely given. God is merciful and He doesn't expect perfection from us because we are human, with faults and frailties. The only thing he asks of us is that we, in turn, love him with all of our heart and mind and soul. So, sorry if this is really preachy..... I hope you don't give up on God yet, because he'll never give up on you. God bless you.

I just got an email from Jess requesting to post these for sunshine... here you go!

My hair looks crazy in those... but yup that's Sandy!
And that's my Mom's hand, feeding him his favorite treat, yogurt!

I don't know Jess, I'm not sure I'd like rodents running around my house...Plus, my dog Jasper would kill them anyways as he sometimes does in the back yard.

Uh, duh jasper he's not a rodent he's my friend : P

Yes, I know he's your friend and pet. I just don't know if I'd want a rat running around the house.

Hi Jasper! How are you today?

I'm in a ridiculously good mood today. Which is rare. And kinda fun actually. :D

Hi Rae!

Jasper,
He's a hamster. Although there's nothing wrong with rats : )
Give your dog a kiss for me!

Hi Rae,

how's it going, I heard you got an internet connection in your apartment finally, hope school is going well.

"Jasper,
He's a hamster. Although there's nothing wrong with rats : )
Give your dog a kiss for me!"

Thanks, I will. Really, I don't mind hampsters, I was thinking of getting my son one...or maybe a fish tank..

Hey Jess!
I love your sweet furry friend! My son has a Russian Dwarf hamster named Sniffs. The breed the pet shop owner says never bites. He bites all the time.

Jess,
Awwwwwwwwwww Sandy IS adorable! I didn't know that hamsters liked yogurt! Her colors are beautiful! And those little tiny ears...who could not absolutely love little hamster ears! How old is Sandy?

When I was younger, I was holding my teddybear hamster named "Laurel" (we had another one named "Hardy") like you are in the first picture. All of a sudden she puts her little head down and bites my thumb! As luck would have it, she hit a vein (I think it's a vein), and the blood actually squirt out. As soon as she bit me, out of pure reflex, I flung my hand up, and she flew about 8-10 ft to the other side of the room. We couldn't find her for a few hours, but finally did. She was fine & so was I. We made ammends, and soon after she had 12 little offspring. One of her babies was born without a paw. It had 1/2 of a bone and skin over it. I kept her, of course, and named her "Pawna". She was totally sweet, but only lived a year. I miss my hamsters...they were definately cool! Enjoy Sandy everyday, Jess, as I'm sure you are. You two look so happy! Thank you for sharing!

:)

oops

Thank you Bethany for posting the pictures. I really appreciate it!

:)

@Jasper: I did finally get an internet connection. Since I worked full-time at 3M over break, I made enough extra $$$ that I could afford spending a little extra each month on internet. :D

Classes are going fine. Physics doesn't seem to be as evil as I originally thought, I'm definitely grateful I took AP Physics in high school (even though it wasn't with calculus) as it's going to help BIG TIME.

How have you been as of late?

Here's a dated joke for all you Italians. See if you can decipher it and tell what it is:

, 2 z wedding Angela Mr .

Jasper, Sandy lives in a fish tank (not full of water, of course). And it's cute that you put a "p" in hamster!

Carla, lol those dwarfs CAN be snippy, I don't think the pet shop owner really knew their hams, but at least yours got a good home! Oh yeah the employee at the place we got Sandy said he was a she. P.S. There are exceptions to the rules, their can be really calm dwarves too...

Sunshine, I'm not sure how old he is, the employee only said he was the oldest. He looked very old and tired and a little sick when we got him, but thanks to lot's of TLC he's perky and lively and very happy!

On that note, my boyfriend just called to inform me he adopted a little 10 week old teddy bear hamster he named Smoothie Bottoms! I can't wait to go home and see our new baby!

Thanks everyone!

Smoothie Bottoms! I love it!

Hey, just out of curiosity, was anyone else disturbed by the "curse" in the article Jill wrote? I'm not saying it's wrong, because I really don't know what to think about it at this point. It does disturb me, though. My gut is telling me something, but I don't know what it is.

"How have you been as of late?"

oh, pretty good Rae, busy at work, etc. I took PhysicsI,II back in college, it wasn't too bad ( as long as you keep up and do the homework, etc). Sometimes the type of teacher one has can make a big difference. Be sure to ask questions and get clarity from teacher.

"And it's cute that you put a "p" in hamster!"

oh yea, LOL.

Hey Jess, I want to apoligize for calling you a liar the other day.. sorry about that.

@Jasper: Our professor is really good, he uses Superheroes in his problems to help us learn. Today we did a problem that was based on the scene in Spiderman I where MJ falls off the building during the Green Goblin attack and Spidey grabs her. :D

It was a free-fall question.

Thanks for the advice though.

@jasper
It's ok.

Today was great day.

I took my 11 year old son to the Grid Iron Greats golf tournament in Scottsdale and he met Don Shula, Mike Ditka and that golf phenom, Lil Jordan.

mk said:
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There are some people that believe in God out of fear, but this is not what He wants. He wants conversation, He wants hugs, He wants us to reflect Him back to the world.
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But a shoot shall sprout from the stump of Jesse, and from his roots a bud shall blossom.
The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him: a spirit of wisdom and of understanding, A spirit of counsel and of strength, a spirit of knowledge and of fear of the LORD, and his delight shall be the fear of the LORD. Not by appearance shall he judge, nor by hearsay shall he decide, But he shall judge the poor with justice, and decide aright for the land's afflicted. He shall strike the ruthless with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips he shall slay the wicked. Justice shall be the band around his waist, and faithfulness a belt upon his hips. Then the wolf shall be a guest of the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; The calf and the young lion shall browse together, with a little child to guide them. The cow and the bear shall be neighbors, together their young shall rest; the lion shall eat hay like the ox. The baby shall play by the cobra's den, and the child lay his hand on the adder's lair. There shall be no harm or ruin on all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be filled with knowledge of the LORD, as water covers the sea. On that day, The root of Jesse, set up as a signal for the nations, The Gentiles shall seek out, for his dwelling shall be glorious.

Erin,
You said you get angry when Christian's say to you, "only Christian's can really love." I am with you on that one that it is demeaning thing to say to non-Christians. Even if a person believes that they should no that is not a very gracious thing to say to someone.

I want you to know that when I see your posts I hear your suffering. I do not want to come across with a "I'm better then you" attitude but if I am silent about this one thing then I really feel like I would be just another person in your life that let you down. Please take it to heart, it is offered to you with love.

Fear of the Lord is a Gift of the Holy Spirit.

And the Holy Spirit is the one thing that will bring Peace to earth some day. And if you even believe there is a "chance" that there is a God then stop yourself from mocking the Lord or it will surely lead to your demise.

Now, on a lesser note, I do want to say something about something you stated earlier; you said that your love for your family and friends comes from a part of your brain. Well here is what I believe to be source of our love. The source of our life, our sentience, and our love for one another is the Holy Spirit.

Jasper,
He's a hamster. Although there's nothing wrong with rats : )
Give your dog a kiss for me!

No Mr. Faulty...He's note a rat...He's a Chamster!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igxDVI4Jva4

Truthseeker,

If you love the Lord you have nothing to fear except displeasing Him...Don't you think by fear here, he means AWE!

My kids "fear" me when they tick me off, but mostly they are motivated to do things out of love. No?

If fear is the only reason that you are a Christian, then I think you're missing the bigger picture.

But I agree, if you're dissing God, if you are flat out denying Him and that which is rightfully His, then a little fear is definitely in order...lol.

Aw, comeone Midnite, please don't go, you're one of the few respectful and rational (if I'm allowed to say that) pro-choicers on here and will be missed both in debate and personal conversations. Hisman sometimes tests my patience as well (and I'm pro-life) because I too believe in "catching more flies with honey than vinger." I tend to just ignore him skim over his posts if he's not going to respectful. Anyways, if you do leave, I wish you and your the best.

I understand where Jill was going with the connection between the color red and abortion (as opposed to the projected scarlet letter connection and pro-life stereotype, but I agree that the curse wasn't necessary.

"I took my 11 year old son to the Grid Iron Greats golf tournament in Scottsdale and he met Don Shula, Mike Ditka and that golf phenom, Lil Jordan."

wow, neat.

@MK: It's John Cleese! I love Monty Python! :D

That made me giggle. ^_^

*tacklehug*

I hate using the word "WOP"
but I do know many folks of Italian American blood that are pro abort - sadly.

I hate using the word "WOP"

Mario, agreed, but I think it's being phased-out. I don't hear it nearly as much as decades ago.

I married into a family of Italians, and it's no big deal to them. In fact, here's a joke one of them told me"

Did you hear about those new Italian tires? Dago through rain, dago through snow, and when dago flat, dago "wop wop wop wop...."

*stares at Truthseeker*

Man, you must be trippin'. Haven't you heard me constantly ranting lately about how WONDERFUL my life is going? I'm not in any pain, dude. Things are great.

Doug,
I realized after I posted that joke that I had missed delivery by leaving out the dego part.

mk, you got it right. Fear of the Lord is because you love him so much that you are afraid to grieve Him.

Rae,

Are you not familiar with Faulty Towers? OMG you have got to rent and watch every single episode...this is my favorite scene...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xX85Y5Zb7sw

certain people would be 'happy' to crush 'the little parasites' head with a hammer

You really need to start reading what I write. I claimed Amanda would be happy to crush the head of a new born "parasite". Unless you are claiming that Amanda's attitude is common among pro-choice people. You're not, are you?

Here's an example how the psychological make-up of at least 1 pro-lifer and pro-abort is polar opposite.
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OK.
Amanda Marcotte has never prevented anyone from having an abortion.

Jill Stanek has never prevented anyone from having an abortion, and loved working at the "abortuary" so much they had to pry her out with a crowbar.
Gee, since you willingly participated in that atmosphere for YEARS while late-term abortions were performed, doesn't that make you WAY WORSE than those deathcamp guards who had to follow orders? It's not like you were gonna get shot or anything...

FF,
Give it up. Once again your attempt at humor and sarcasm fails as it is always outshadowed by the sheer stupidity of your crack analysis.

JILL, PLEASE READ:
Please rethink the curse:

James 3:
9. With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness.
10. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be.
11. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring?
12. My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.

Romans 12:14
Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

Sunshine,

Because by doing so you heap coals upon their head (or something along those lines.)

Kill 'em with kindness, so it's been said.

Amanda, although you may laugh hysterically at me now, I pray that one day you will appreciate that at this very moment, I am sincerely praying for your salvation through Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, and that you come to know the full extent of God's love for you. I pray that He softens your heart so you can be receptive to His love for you. In Jesus' name.

I'm not Amanda, but I was a born again zealot like many of you here. There's a big difference in a born again zealot and a born again Christian. Christians display the love Jesus displayed while the zealots seem more interested in following the hateful god of the old testement. Fortunately I became a Christian before I ruined anyone's life with my zealotry. Then I did an even smarter thing, I withdrew from religion, at least that based on the Bible. Right now I consider myself a seeker, but I can guarantee I won't go back to Christianity. Too many zealots masquerading as Christians for me.

Amanda:

Do you know what blasphemy is:

It's taking that which is good and calling it evil as in calling an anti-abotionist an evil person or mentally ill and...

It's taking that which is evil and calling it good - kind of like what you do....being an ardent pro-baby killing murderer.

Tell me something.....what really caused you to become like this? Why such hatred for God and the intent of His will, i.e., babies in the womb?

Have you ever heard of the Jezebel spirit by which you are possessed? Do you even realize that you are possessed by such a spirit? Do you know what happened to the Jezebel of the Bible? Dogs ate her flesh.

Posted by: HisMan

Hitman, the only hatred I see comes from the anti choice zealots that populate this board. I don't hate either fetuses or embryos, even though I wouldn't gestate a pregnancy to term at this point in my life. I would also hope my daughter wouldn't carry a pregnancy, considering she doesn't like children and doesn't want any, nor is she a baby making factory for the antichoice zealots. If she changes her mind after she finishes her doctorate, fine, if not, fine.