On June 6, Planned Parenthood posted its 2005-06 annual report, complete with smiling babies and children it missed killing on the cover.

Yesterday morning, Jim Sedlak, VP of American Life League and an authority on PP, issued this analysis....

... [W]e find that 264,943 died by medical or surgical abortion in Planned Parenthood's facilities during 2005. That's 5,095 a week - as many each week as the highest estimates of allied forces deaths on D-Day....

PP reported a total income of $902.8 million dollars. That is a record number for the organization, but is a modest 2.4% increase from the year before. In contrast, PP reported total revenue increases of 10.7%, 5.7% and 8.9% in its previous three years....

PP... reported "excess of revenue of expenses" of $55.8 million for the fiscal year. This marks the 34th year in a row that PP has reported "excess revenue" - otherwise known as profit. Over the years, PP has reported total profits of over $700 million. It has amassed a treasure chest of assets worth $839.8 million.

A review of PP's reports through the years shows that its revenue comes from three main sources: fees charged at its clinics; donations from corporations, foundations and individuals; and taxpayer money received from government grants and contracts. A brief look at each of these in the latest reports reveals some interesting information. [PP's reported balance from page 17 of report on right; click to enlarge.]

PP's clinic income comes from fees charged to its customers. It reported a total clinic income for 2005-2006 of $345.1 million dollars. The significant thing about this year's clinic income is that it was $1.5 million less than last year. We estimate that $112.6 million ( 32.5%) comes from abortion.

We have checked our files of PP annual reports back to the 1950s, and cannot find another year in which clinic income went down. We understand that a fall of $1.5 million out of $345 million is not earthshaking. We also understand that a one-year dip may be an anomaly and not a trend. But it was a decline - the first clinic income decline in the last 50 years. It couldn't have made PP very happy.

PP's donations were reported to be $212.2 million. That figure is $3.6 million less than last year. Donations have a habit of going up and down and there is not much significance to the number other than the fact that it did go down - albeit just 1.7%.

The final category of PP revenue sources is you and me - the American taxpayer. I am sorry to report to you that PP reported receiving taxpayer funds totaling $305.3 million - a whopping $32.6 million (12%) more than last year. This means that taxpayer money now accounts for 34% of PP's income.

The bottom line is that PP is losing donations, its clinic income is down and you and I are being forced to pay more so the organization can kill our children through abortion and spread its perverted ideology throughout the land. It is really incredible when you realize that PP put every penny of the increased taxpayer money into the bank. It got $32 million extra and then reported a $55 million profit....

This year's annual report makes it clear. Average citizens are spending less and less at PP clinics. Wealthy citizens are not giving PP as much in donations as they have in the past. Only our government officials are giving more to PP and they are giving it our money....

Sign a petition against taxpayer funding of PP... at www.StopPlannedParenthoodTaxFunding.com.

I know many are interested in the celebrities who support PP. Here is a list, from page 13 of the report. Click to enlarge.

[Hat tip: Phil E.]

WOW, look at that long list of abortion supporting celebrities. What a shame. With all their $ couldn't they find something better to do with their time? Give those donations to a pregnancy crisis center! Adopt a few children. They only support killing them.

Umm...Im a liberal pro-lifer, so I cant say that I condemn celebrities for participating in fundraising for PP because they do provide services without which the poor or median income women of America would be at a much higher risk of disease and unwanted pregnancy (in reference to contraception, not abortion). But I must admit that when I saw Mariska Hargitay's name on this list, the first thing that came to my mind was her milk commercial about being a good mom....

Samantha T. That seems to be the message that a lot of them are willing to send. I can't tell you how many celebrities I have heard say "I have NEVER had an abortion myself, but I support a woman's right to choose." If they really support something with pride then why tell us weather or not you have had an abortion? It's irrelevant. Some do admit to their abortions with pride. I don't get that. Ashley Judd said "Sex without consequences is cool." and "Supporting PBA is fun." Say what??? Odd, Ashley's mom is pro life.

@Samantha: I adore Mariska Hargitay...she's one of my absolute favorite actresses (and I'm usually not to fond of actresses...)

I didn't know she was in commercials for milk... but regardless as to whether she's pro-choice or pro-life she can still be a good mom.

@Heather: Ashley Judd is a crap actress anyway, she just says that crap to get publicity to take away from the fact she couldn't act her way out of a paper bag.

Though to be frank, I can't stand any of the Judds...country music makes me break out in a rash.

Rae, Totally LOL!!

@Heather: In all seriousness...whenever I see the Judds I keep thinking "INBRED"! I know they aren't...but ugh. My parents j'adore country music and I was raised on it so while I do have a tolerance for it, there are some country artists that I truly can't stand listening to. The Judds are one of them. Also Alan Jackson, Randy Travis and the Dixie Chicks (with the exception of "Goodbye Earl" because that song is Hi-flippin-larious).

Rae, my mom is from Alabama. What do you think I was subjected to? Can't stand it either. Ashley can't be the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. She is always at the choice rallies wearing that shirt 'THIS IS WHAT A FEMINIST LOOKS LIKE' I always want to cross out feminist and write in MORON!!!

@Heather: I feel so bad for you. I do. I feel your pain. My family is from rural South Dakota (and by rural I mean my parents graduated from classes of 30 people). I apparently used to love country music videos as a baby/toddler because I would watch them for hours. >_

I think those hours of country music really dulled my academic potential. :-p

*shrugs*
I have a shirt like that...but it's referring to the fact that not all feminists are what I call "feminazis" with butch-short hair, manly clothes, and birkenstocks and refusing to shave.

Well let's just say that it would be a fitting shirt for Ashley. Her acting does stink, and her comments about abortion were juvenile and stupid. One thing my mom likes is HEE HAW re runs...*horror film music plays*

Hee-Haw? Good lord...fortunately my mom was a bit too young for that...she likes M*A*S*H (I do too, man Alan Alda was good looking back in the day).

*shrugs*

Eh, on the whole I usually ignore what celebrities have to say on any issue, because most of them do just spout of bull. Occasionally, some of the more intelligent actors say something worth listening to, but on the whole, majority of them are pretty darned stupid and not worth listening to.

But in other news, I was absolutely delighted to hear that Paris Hilton got sent back to jail. She deserves to be there.

Well, it's nice to see that the judge wasn't impressed by her celeb. status. It's a fair sentence.

I give that judge props for not backing down and being like, "Whatevers, she committed a crime and that merits punishment."

I wish all celebrities had that judge.

Jill,

When I saw the cover of the PP annual report I almost wretched.

For me, this is one of your best posts ever. It is a capulization of all that is wrong with the abortion industry, the deception, the hypocisy, the lies, the motive, all wrapped into an annual report. I suggest you make this post emailable from the site.

Any defense of PP that includes non-abortion procedures reveals a lack of basic business understanding.

You see, the only reason PP provides all those other services is to feed their abortion business.

They could care less about women. They are no better than drug pushers on the street who support deviant behavior and the destruction of human life. There is no way I would want to be asociated with PP and then go on to meet my Lord and Savior.

The utter hypocrisy of PP is evident. Why one cannot see the deception and blasphemy (the twisting of something so evil into good) in the whole PP philiosophy is incomprehensible.

And these self-serving celibrities that support PP with all their fake smiles, like Paris Hilton, will someday meet their Maker and no amount of crying or pleading or saying, "It's just not right" to the Judge, will save them from eternal helfire and damnation.

STOP Planned Parenthood NOW!!!!!!!

If Planned Parenthood only offers the other services to "feed their abortion business," than why is it that the majority of Planned Parenthoods do not, in fact, provide abortions? Two of the Planned Parenthoods in all of North Texas provide abortions, out of the twenty eight locations. What is the purpose of these other twenty six, then, if they do not provide abortions?

Per Less:
"What is the purpose of these other twenty six, then, if they do not provide abortions?"

It's a marketing plan to introduce women to their "friendly" helpful services so women become comforatble and trust them. It's a marketing ploy. When clients "OOPS" wind up pregnant they can then refer them onto the locations that do provide "friendly" abortive services.

Not to mention they are still making oodles of $$ from women who patronize these locations.
It's good to be diversified. You reach a much broader spectrum of needs. Brilliant!!

Excellent post HisMan!

Sandy, it must be sad to be so paranoid: they really don't like women, apparently, they're simply luring them into a trap so that they can prey off of their sudden pregnancy needs? It sounds laughably like a conspiracy theory, to be honest.

Having frequented one of those twenty six locations, I can tell you that they do not encourage abortions. They provide free contraceptives, and among their "sex booklets" is one regarding the benefits of abstinence. It isn't some gigantic marketing ploy to get every woman in America an abortion.

"Ashley Judd said "Sex without consequences is cool." and "Supporting PBA is fun." "

what a bum...

@Rae: you don't like Randay Travis? The guys a great singer, Josh Turner is too, 2 of my favs...

SamathaT,

May I ask, who would you vote for? Let's say it came down to Hillary or Romney....

jasper... I swear she did! An 11 year old could have issued a more intelligent statement. All of her money couldn't buy her one ounce of class! Susan Sarandon went to a pro choice rally 8 months pregnant. Talk about tacky!

Heather, these hollywood types have no shame....

Less,

If an organization is performing ~5,000 abortions a week, it doesn't really matter what else they do.

@Jasper: Yeah, not a fan of Randy Travis, the man can't enunciate to save his life and all his songs sound EXACTLY the SAME. Don't care for Josh Turner either, his voice creeps me out for some reason.

Heck, the only reason I know any of this is because my parents used to listen to it all the time and that was before I realized there was better music out there...

jasper, if you get time here are 2 more great sites to check out. Death Roe.com and The Pro Life Action League. Prepare to be disgusted. It exposes the abortion industry.

PS.. if you go to Death Roe.com, click on EXECUTIONERS. Abortionists exposed to the hilt.

My grandfather used to think evey song that came on the radio was Randy Travis.

"Turn off that damn Randy Travis".....

He was not a fan of music in general

Oh,

Proof that Ashley Judd is not stupid

http://www.enquirer.com/columns/daugherty/1998/03/judd_300x500.jpg

@JK: Hahahahaha. That's awesome. My grandpa hated music too, he never listened to it. Though my grandma was always amused by Weird Al when I would play it... My mom's parents love Savage Garden, that's about as non-country, non-musical, non-churchy music as they would get. :) I taught them well. ^_^

Rae,

Where's the hair pic?

How did that prove anything? Her lips weren't moving. LOL!

My grandfather would not allow music in the (tobacco) stripping room, unless people begged for it and then he would complain about the amount of "Randy Travis" he was being subjected to.

:-)

Her shirt says it all

Given all of Ashley Judd's awards and accolades, I think it demonstrates just how out of touch with reality and biased heather is calling her a crap acctress...imposing her radilical ideologies on every aspect of life and culture.

I patricularly enjoyed how HisMan is lauding Jills for exposing all the PP "hypocisy, the lies, the motive" when the only thing she did was cut-n-paste their public announcement.

For Sandy and HisMan...here's an example of deception of women...

"CPCs have a long history of deception. For example, some CPCs intentionally choose their name to mislead women into believing that they offer a wide range of services, including
family planning and abortion care. In a 1989 report, the Family Research Council showed that women faced with an unplanned pregnancy were most likely to look in the Yellow Pages under the words "Pregnancy," "Medical," "Women�s
Centers" and "Clinics." Accordingly, CPCs often are advertised under these categories, as well as "Abortion Alternatives," and "Women�s Organizations."CPCs also advertise through posters, signs, and billboards that contain
messages like, "Free Pregnancy Test," "Pregnant? Scared? We Can Help! Call 1-800 #."Women report, however, that when they call these numbers the CPC representatives evade questions about whether they provide abortions, and urge the women to make an appointment to meet with a 'counselor' to talk in person.

CPCs� deceptive tactics extend to their physical appearance as well. CPCs often design their facilities to look like actual health care facilities with a waiting room, a partitioned checkin checkin desk, and an ultrasound machine.x They typically locate themselves near clinics that offer abortions in a deliberate
attempt to increase their legitimacy and lure potential patients away from receiving abortion care by capitalizing on patients� confusion.

Though CPCs portray themselves as medical clinics, advertising medical services including an "Ask the Doctor" section and urging women to come in for "options counseling," they do not provide full options counseling and generally will not refer for abortion care or birth control. In fact, Care Net, the largest network of CPCs in the United States, specifically instructs its CPCs not to give out information about birth control. Most do not mention
anywhere on their websites that the CPC will not provide or make referrals for abortions or birth control, but instead claim to provide a "nonjudgmental environment" where "each
option" can be explored."

http://www.prochoice.org/pubs_research/publications/downloads/about_abortion/cpc.pdf

@MK: Here are the pictures, I took them on my phone and they aren't too fantastic because of it...it looks cuter in person.

But what can I say? Convertible bangs rock.

No Bangs:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/57148662/?qo=1&q=by%3Akendranoelle+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime

Bangs:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/57148741/?q=by%3Akendranoelle+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime

Contradictory Cameron, Rae called her a crap actress. I agreed Get off it!! You act as though you know her personally!

My bad heather.... though Rae is not imposing her ideologies on it like you are; Judd's not prolife so there for a "moron"

WWWHHHAAAT EVER!

"Though CPCs portray themselves as medical clinics, advertising medical services including an "Ask the Doctor" section and urging women to come in for "options counseling," they do not provide full options counseling and generally will not refer for abortion care or birth control"

we'll that the whole point dipshit, their trying help mothers not kill their babies, but keep their babies alive. what the hell is wrong with you, with the F are your morals.

Ooooooh! Jasper said a naughty word!

Now Rae,

It's not polite to point...

Per Less:
"Sandy, it must be sad to be so paranoid: they really don't like women, apparently, they're simply luring them into a trap so that they can prey off of their sudden pregnancy needs? It sounds laughably like a conspiracy theory, to be honest.

Having frequented one of those twenty six locations, I can tell you that they do not encourage abortions. They provide free contraceptives, and among their "sex booklets" is one regarding the benefits of abstinence. It isn't some gigantic marketing ploy to get every woman in America an abortion."

Less,
Of course they are not going to actively encourage you to have an abortion. That would be too obvious.

I'm not paranoid. They are a business and are out to make a profit. They are run like a large corporation who put methods in place to ensure they will make money. I am sure they have spread sheets galore that will tell them in an instant how and where they can make more money.

Another example: (Jill correct me if I am wrong.)

Hospitals from what I understand don't make much money from labor and delivery. They may lose money from L&D because it is hard to predict how long a woman will labor and it is obviously unknown if she will need an emergency C section.
Therefore it is difficult to schedule staff accordingly which costs money.
Hospitals use their labor and delivery floors to get families into their hospital so the next time they need medical care they will go back to that hospital system.

Labor and Delivery is basically what is called in business a "loss leader". This basically means that they may break even or lose money in this area of practice, but will gain much more in future dollars by the family referring friends and relatives to their system.

Now, they are not coming into a women who is active in labor touting their orthopedic physicians for the next time you blow out a knee, but they are hoping with the good care and nice facilities you have experienced during your hospital stay while delivering your baby that you will come back for future medical needs.

This is just the way businesses work.

Rae,

Your family is from rural S. Dakota? So were my father's family. His sister and her husband had a farm in Lake Norden. Sound familiar? My father and his sister were adopted from an orphanage in Sioux Falls or City, I believe was the name.

Heather4life and Rae,

As for Paris Hilton, I'm glad to see her do time like you, I, or anyone else would have to do. You'd think she could just show a little dignity and not throw a tantrum in court, but how much dignity can you expect from a woman approaching 30y/o who still runs around without her panties?
The only time I ever agreed with Rosie O'Donnell was when she told these panty-less celebs that no one wants to see their baby making factories.
Isn't it scary that these are the kind of people our society gives so much credence to?

A local Ohio abortionist just had his clinic closed last year. He was violating health care codes left and right. He was performing late term abortions. The state investigated after he almost killed a lady. They found out that nurses weren't even documenting vital signs prior to the abortion procedures. You should have seen the guys phone book add. It advertised what a caring doctor he was. After he botched the abortion he called 911 and yelled "I want her out of my clinic!" It also advertised that his clinic was one of the "best" and "most trusted"...No vital signs? If that's the best you've got, I don't want to see the worst. All lies!!

I hope Lindsay Lohan is next to go.

Concerning CPCs,

To begin with, no woman is dragged kicking and screaming into a CPC or forced to stay once she is there. If a woman is not satisfied with how she is treated on the phone or not given the answers she is looking for, she certainly has the option to hang up. Alternatives to abortion means just that, the CPC is offering alternatives. When clients had any question as to what this meant, and few did, they asked me and I told them. If they weren't interested they said goodbye and hung up.
While volunteering at a CPC, I often had the situation occur that a client was not interested and they said so. I had many hang up the phone, leave the office, or simply never contact me again. Talking face to face after making phone contact was more beneficial to the client and often helped bring up other issues in her life. Like the young woman I saw with the negative pregnancy test who had many other troubling issues in her life, like a previous abortion, and just needed to talk to someone confidentially and needed the reassurance that she had the right to say no.
We were not allowed to recommend birth control as this was viewed as a medical matter about which we would refer a woman to her doctor. Even if a pregnancy test was negative, we still suggested a follow up visit to be certain there was no other medical problem. We had doctors who would see our clients, especially those in financial straits, but clients could decide for themselves who they would see. We also had social workers and counsellors available for assistance as well. Again, clients made their own decision about utilizing their services as well.
Clients gave only the info about themselves they chose to and I knew most women only on a first name basis. Betraying a client's confidentiality or harassing a client in any way, shape, or form was expressly forbidden.
I'm a little tired of this patronizing, women as helpless victims mentality being perpetrated by the opponents of CPCs, that says women can be so easily tricked by CPCs and are completely helpless to do anything should they decide they do not want the services of a CPC. I can assure you all the clients I saw made their own decisions about whether or not they would utilize our services or if they would even come in to begin with.

@Mary: My dad's family is from Parker, South Dakota (a li'l po-dunk town just 30 miles west of Sioux Falls) and my mom's family is from Selby, South Dakota (another li'l po-dunk town about 90 miles west of Aberdeen, South Dakota).

I am not sure of where Lake Nourden is, but if they are from the Sioux Falls area, I imagine it is in the southeast corner of the state? Parker is on the Vermillion river.

@MK: Me sorry. It was rude.

Heather4life,

While reviewing George Tiller's website I could find nothing about the credentials of his staff. I would think patients would find it a little more reassuring to know what training and licensing the people caring for them at any facility have and wouldn't a facility want to list this information? It talks of staff being chosen based on their training and skill. OK, how many RN's, LPN's, Surgical Technicians, and Patient Care Technicians are working at his clinic? I would think he'd be proud to advertise the level of training his employees have, assuming they have any at all.

Thanks Rae,

Believe me, if you look up po-dunk in the dictionary you'll see a picture of Lake Norden. It is in the southeast corner of S.Dakota. Flat as a pancake. I visited Rapid City years ago and the area was incredible. So mountainous and beautiful. Also stopped at Lead-Deadwood, at least that is what it was called then.

@Mary: I haven't been to Rapid City since I was 15, but it was very pretty out there when I was there! It's still called "Lead-Deadwood" and it's a big gambling area (the whole Wild West theme and all...). Rapid City and western South Dakota is a far cry from the eastern and central parts. Aberdeen is completely flat and they have been experiencing flooding from a dinky river that runs northeast of town because Aberdeen is a floodplain because they got 8 inches of rain all at once in May. >_

Rae

You bees forgived.

Very interesting article in the July Marie Claire magazine on the RU 486
Pg 184 I believe. Check it out. I think it could be worthy of a day or two discussion on the sight.

Cameron,
Great cut and paste. You are such a tool.

lol :D

Look up tool.

I'd hope you'd note that I cited my source, and my source has citations for all its claims. I'm neither pawning off the cut-n-paste as my own, like other people here, nor am advancing something without a shred of evidence simply because it's in harmony with my notions.

Nonetheless...the tool comment is still mildly ammusing.

"To begin with, no woman is dragged kicking and screaming into a CPC or forced to stay once she is there."

No. Just coming there thinking it was something else, and getting emotional blackmaled when trying to leave.

Cameron,
FYI
You still haven't answered my post from the Nice girls don't thread.

What kind of tool is Cameron? A wrench? A screwdriver? A hammer? A nail gun?

Spare me Cameron,

The woman makes the choice to come in. If she realizes she is mistaken, she is free to get up and leave whenever she wants. She does not have to sit and listen to anything she doesn't care to listen to. Its a little hard to inflict "emotional blackmail", whatever that is, on anyone who refuses to listen to you.
Please dispense with this patronizing mentality of yours that women are helpless and perpetual victims. By the way Cameron, my first client was so pleased with the support and help she got from our center that she gave a presentation on it to her college class. So much for victimizing. This was a woman who has very seriously considered abortion, even making an appointment for a consultation. You want to know what changed her mind? It wasn't any "emotional blackmail" on my part but rather the abortionist who enraged her with his condescension, cold attitude, and refusal to give her any information on fetal development which she had requested.

SamathaT,
May I ask, who would you vote for? Let's say it came down to Hillary or Romney....
Posted by: jasper at June 9, 2007 02:11 PM

Jasper, Im sorry it took me so long to get back to you (busy life of a student/waitress) but I would vote for Romney, if the only issue were abortion. (I have to tell you that I havent taken the time for comparison shopping on important issues, as the election is still so far off.) I can personally identify with Romney's stance on abortion, and while I think its past time for a woman to run things around here, I take issue with the example Hillary set for women by staying in an adulterous relationship.

Amen to that Samantha T.! She set a really poor example for women.

Samantha T,

Another point, Hillary is where she is and who she is because of who she married. Kind of peculiar for a feminist icon, wouldn't you say? What is the likelihood of any of the rest of us non-residents of New York being elected a senator for that state? Sure she put up with Bill's shenanigans for years, but now its payback time. Do you think she'd be in the position she is now if her name was Hillary Rodham Schultz?

What happened to the conservative "Stand By Your Man" ideal?

JK,

What happened to the feminist ideal that women should be able to stand on their own without a man and should never tolerate philandering husbands who publicly humiliate them time and again.

cameron,

Jill wasn't claiming this to be a piece she authored. She "hat tips" Phil E. and acknowledges "Jim Sedlak, VP of American Life League" as the author.

I think Bill once stated that his wife had "HAD" more women than he ever had. HMMMMM, sounds like a match made in heaven. What a lovely marriage.

So she benefitted from being married to a president. Who cares? She could have been content to just stand in the background, shaking hands with foreign dignitaries and entertaining their respective wives. But she chose to become political.

And maybe she actually loves her husband. You don't have to be a man hating birkenstock wearing lesbian to be a feminist.

JK,

You make it sound like she's running for president out of the goodness of her heart. She's fulfilling an ambition, one that she needs the name and help of Bill Clinton to do.As I asked in my previous post, would she be where she is today if her name was Hillary Rodham Schultz? My point is that this goes against the feminist ideal and yet she is a feminist icon.

Actually loves her husband? Well JK, maybe you should ask her about the "conservative Stand By Your Man ideal". Also, I agree that one need not be a lesbian to be a feminist.

You know I saw the debates and she has some good ideas. I think her reputation often ruins the actual good policies that she might enact as president.

PIP,

I'm not so certain. In my opinion she's a chameleon.

Mary,

I'm not so certain. In my opinion she's a chameleon.

Personally I think she's more reptilian than amphibian...

But she certainly brings to mind creepy things that crawl on their bellies...

MK....do you know if lemmings crawl on their bellies? :)

I don't think any politician ever runs out of the goodness of their heart. They do it for ambition, especially the gentleman. A good majority of politicians don't even stand by their ideals and instead sacrifice their ideals in order to get re-elected. All politicians are chameleons or reptiles in their own right.

Which is why my dad more or less forbade me to go into politics, he didn't want me to turn into somebody who didn't stick to their values and instead worry about pandering to their constituency.

Alyssa,

I know they like to be scratched on their wittle bellies...but no, they don't crawl.

Comparing Hillary to a Lemming is an insult to Lemmings everywhere...

LEMMINGS UNITE!

That I will agree with. Lemmings are adorkable. Hilary...well, Hilary isn't. She has very bad hair.

She comes from the town that I just moved from (1 mile from where I live now. Drive past her house all the time) And when my oldest had a little trouble with the law, we had to go and pick him up in Hope, AK, home to Bill...I was sick for days...

Rae,

That I will agree with. Lemmings are adorkable. Hilary...well, Hilary isn't. She has very bad hair.

And you just know that Hillary does NOT taste good on pizza!

Awwwww. I liked Bill Clinton...heck, my Republican Catholic grandparents liked him (my grandma liked his hair...).

I had no idea Bill Clinton was from Alaska.

I don't know what any woman sees in Bill. *Gags*

"cameron, Jill wasn't claiming this to be a piece she authored. She "hat tips" Phil E. and acknowledges "Jim Sedlak, VP of American Life League" as the author."

I wasn't accusing Jill. I was accusing the people posting here... most recently, Sandy did a cut n' paste from prolife or something like that... pawning it off as her own words/not sourcing it.

I just accuse Jill of being lazy for cutting n' pasting from two other sites mostly.

Cameron,
I never pawned anything off as my own intentionally and never expected anyone to assume supportive information I used is NOT from an internet source.

Like most people on the sight, I usually do a cut and paste to save time regurgitating information and having to do a re-write complete with footnotes.

Didn't know I would be graded on it.

Unlike Cameron who admits to making up studies,
you can be assured that anything I post is from a reliable source.

"Cameron who admits to making up studies.."

That was humor... % of abortions sought by pro-lifers. And when I saw you all foolishly taking it seriously, I had to tell you it was made up. You all were so flippen clueless... Priceless! Thanks for reminding me. ;-D

"Unlike Cameron who admits to making up studies,
you can be assured that anything I post is from a reliable source."

LMAO... like that abortions being 3 times more risky than pregnancy thing. What hoot!

"Jasper, Im sorry it took me so long to get back to you (busy life of a student/waitress) but I would vote for Romney, if the only issue were abortion. (I have to tell you that I havent taken the time for comparison shopping on important issues, as the election is still so far off.) I can personally identify with Romney's stance on abortion, and while I think its past time for a woman to run things around here, I take issue with the example Hillary set for women by staying in an adulterous relationship."

SamathaT, I wasn't talking about if abortion is the only issue. let's say the election were tomorrow, who would you vote for, Clinton or Romney... thanks

Cameron,

Making up studies isn't humor, its fabrication and falsehood. You never did say what would happen to you if you handed in a fabricated study at the university you work/study at. Would your instructors laugh it off?
You also never explained why, if you had accurate studies and statistics to back up what you say, you found it necessary to fabricate. Sorry Cameron, but you're the one with egg on your face with this one.

Egg in my face? You always think that though... no matter how stupid you are, so it's kind of meaningless not to mention sounding just aaaaa lil' desperate. "You're baddder... so there!"

I thought it was funny when you all took it seriously, rather than trying to find it and verify it. It illustrated just how stupid and inept you all are when it comes to reality. Making something of it, after I came clean on my own, just piles on the humor for me. Seriously, you'd still be just as clueless now, thinking a lot of prolifers were getting abortions, if I hadn't actually told you I made it up. How much more milage are you all going to let me get out of your carelessness and foolishness?

Cameron,

Try to calm down. You're ranting and not making a lot of sense.

Mary, Im not a psychic, so I dont know where Hillary would be if this and if that and perhaps way back when. I know where she is, and all I can do is offer my opinion.

JK, on the whole conservative stand-by-your-man deal: first, Im not conservative :), and second, any man who cheats on me will not have a snowball's chance in hell of maintaining our marriage. But it isnt that radical of an idea; Jesus Himself said that divorce was acceptable when adultery was committed.

Samantha T.

I hope you didn't misunderstand. You have an issue with Hillary tolerating Bill's adultery. I was just speculating on why I think she did. I believe very sincerely she is where she is today because of who she married and her political ambitions come first, even if that means tolerating a philandering husband. That was the point I was trying to get across.

I love your response to JK. Heaven help any man who cheats on you!

@Mary: If I ever get married or a boyfriend and he cheats on me, he will be out on his rear so fast he wouldn't even have time to say "I'm sorry".

Go Girl!!!!

Cheaters disgust me to no end. I agree with SamanthaT and Rae....that cheating lowlife would be out my door with the help of my dad... as in he would go through the door whether or not it was actually open. Don't mess with Daddy's Little Girl. Dad wanted to beat the crap out of my high school ex-boyfriend for the emotional abuse he put me through...and this jerk most likely cheated. I'm a lot more confident in who I am because of him, however....I know what treatment I deserve and it's a whole lot better than what he gave me! (I was a high school misfit, I guess I just put up with whomever would take me). Lol.

@Lyssie: Yeah, my dad would be, in the words of Red Foreman from That 70's Show, "Putting his foot, up his [the lowlife cheater's] a**." :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9EYAlfWDoA

Lyssie,

Live and learn, that's for sure. A word of warning, its a lifelong road that you've only started travelling with the jerk you dumped. My first boyfriend was an absolute control freak, and in high school I was just so young and naive and like you, thought I was so lucky to have him. ARGH! Believe me, I repeated mistakes more times than I care to admit. What I would give to have known over the years what I know now!

Mary,

It's really true that you have to kiss a bunch of frogs before you meet your prince...My boyfriend now is amazing. From the experiences I've had, I didn't know men could be so caring, thoughtful, and considerate. He's taught me otherwise. He surprises me with all the sweet, wonderful, loving things he does for me. I hope and pray he's the one. I can't imagine finding anyone better than him.

Lyssie,

LOL about the frogs. What a hoot. Anyway, your fellow sounds like a gem and I wish you both every happiness. You deserve the best Lyssie and it sounds like you have it.

SamanthaT:

I know how passionate you feel about infidelity.

Now you know how God feels when we sin which to Him is an act of betrayal. Sin is so foreign to His nature that he caanot understand why any person would choose it over Him. It breaks His heart.

Imagine this, you are married to a husband that you love unconditonally. He then cheats on you. Do you banish him forever or do you give your life for him as a way to restore the relationship?

Yes, Jesus says that infidelity is the only justifiable cause for divorce for He understands the pain. However, forgiveness is always the preferable way, I believe He would always want there to be a reconciliation if repentance were presented.

Read the book of Hosea and you might gain some insight into the pathos of God and what He feels when we sin and how it tears Him apart because He loves us so much. Let me know what you think.

HisMan, is spousal abuse a valid reason for divorce? (I'm talking about men who beat the crap out of their wives, or about emotional abuse from either side of the relationship). I just wanted to know if a person is required by the Bible to stay in an abusive marriage without hope of repentance by the aggressor. I consider abuse to be a type of infidelity, where someone breaks the "to have and to hold" vow. Is this how it is viewed by the Bible?

Cameron, 6/10, 6:21p: I'm not lazy. I'm just busy doing other things, like killing kittens.

LOL

Lyssie,

Concerning our discussion on previous boyfriends. There are women I thank to this day for "stealing" former boyfriends. I'm only sorry they didn't do it a lot sooner!!

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