What a coward! 3 out of 4 people agree with him, but he's terrified of having to talk to a tiny little girl that doesn't.

Wuss.

By the way, I applaud you Jill. It takes some real courage to admit listening to Barry Manilow. Most people do it in the privacy of their own homes and keep the CD's in unmarked cases.

This isn't the first time Mr. Manilow's backed out of something because he disagreed with the people involved. A birthday present given to me by my parents was a trip to Atlantic City and a concert with Barry. We sat and sat and sat and sat and finally - 30 minutes after the scheduled start - a spokesperson came on the sound system announcing that Mr. M wasn't going to be performing. Apparently the venue was promoted as a celebration of New Jersey, and Mr. Manilow disagreed with then governor Whitman and her policies ... so he got to worm out of a commitment and we wasted all sorts of time and my folks' money. He's definitely a wuss.

I'm shocked! I didn't think he was like this at all. He is gay, isn't he? Elisabeth is the only pro lifer on the panel. Perhaps Rosie put a bug in his ear?

Jacque, LOL! That' me to a T.

If Manilow is so comfortable with his political viewpoints and his ability to defend them, why on earth is he intimidated by one pregnant woman!

Rory, another example of Manilow acting like a spoiled brat. My way or no way! Grow up Barry and act like a man.

I think a better way to describe him is cowardly. What's he so afraid of? Elisabeth is dangerous? LOL! I doubt that.

How stupid on his part.

Does his album now have a disclaimer that it can only be sold to the liberal minded?

He is sure willing to take money from anyone who wants to buy his album regarless of their political views.

L-O-0-O-O-S-E-R!!!!!

Another left wing bastion of tolerance.

"His name was Rico... he was a showgirl..."

Why anybody listens to Barry Manilow is beyond me... :)

I'm sure he impressed his left-wing buddies from Manhatten.

A. Mad when liberal singers get political? Like how Toby Keith used to put up pictures of the Dixie Chicks hugging Saddam and Bin Laden and then tried to say later that he never supported the war?!

Why are we only "disappointed" when liberal people speak out and then get jumped on, but then defend conservative celebrities. It's such a double standard. Either get angry when celebrities get political at all or stop whining when you learn your favorite singing group is the opposite political party.

B. If you are truly saddened, maybe this could apply to the pro-life movement. Like, trying not to alienate people by making it a conservative vs. liberal view?

@PiP: But liberals are all godless, immoral, baby-killing, "pro-gay" (whatever the Hell's Bells that is supposed to imply), and anti-"family values" folk who get so much support from that evil, "liberal" media and those poor down-trodden conservatives get the short end of the stick everytime!

It almost makes me want to cry the injustice of it all!

*sigh*

PIP and Rae -

Talk about generalizing. What we are upset about is that he is trying to eliminate one person that works at The View just because he doesn't like her viewpoints. What would happen if Toby Keith said he would go on The View but Whoopi couldn't be there because he doesn't like her?

It isn't just a political viewpoint. It is the fact that he refuses to be tolerant of someone elses viewpoint for 10 minutes out of a 24 hour day. I just don't think that should be asking too much.

@Valerie: I was being sarcastic. :)

I think Mr. Manilow is being very childish. But he's a twit who makes bad music so I suppose it should be expected.

Rae -

I like his music. I'm afraid to ask what that makes me?

;-)

I have no issue with celebrities getting political. To cancel a concert because he doesn't like the governor of New Jersey is acting like a spoiled brat, as well as displaying an appalling lack of professionalism. If Mr. M is truly a man of his convictions and is capable of giving an intelligent argument for what he believes in, I can't understand why one pregnant woman would so unnerve him. I mean, 3 out of 4 of the women on the view will be supporting him. Maybe because he's afraid she'll make him look like an idiot? He may have cause for concern there.

Let's face it, Mr. M has displayed quite a bit of intolerance here. He won't go on a show because he doesn't like the political views of one person and doesn't want to sit with her?
Grow up Barry.

Oh Valerie...I must say I'm slightly disappointed. :-p

I kid, I kid.

Barry Manilow is completely irrelevant to anything

Zeke, you're completely irrelevant to anything.

Hi Rae,

I think Barry is quite relevant. His attitude reflects the worst side of pro choice. The I WANT I WANT Crowd. I didn't say all, I said most.

On the flip side, I would refuse to interviewed by Rosie. Not because of her views, but because I might have to fling myself at her across the table and throttle her in front of millions of people..and that would be embarassing.

I'm typing on automatic here...I meant not all, but worst...oops.

@MK: :) I wouldn't want to be interviewed by any of the ladies on "The View". I find them all detestable/catty. The only reason I can even tolerate Rosie is because she gave Savage Garden (one of my favorite bands evaaaar) a head start in the US by supporting them/playing their music all the time.

I am that shallow yes. But I must go, I've been sittin' around in the library for nearly 2 hours now and I need to get back to my apartment. Crumbs.

Its official. Rae has bad taste in music.

Ah, I'm not really watching the view these days. I'm not a big fan of [ pro abort] Whoopi. Joy is also pro abortion, and Barbara is wishy washy on the subject. They tend to gang up on Elisabeth. Remember when she was in tears after the argument over the "morning after pill"? I felt so bad for her.

Barry Manilow is completely irrelevant to anything

Posted by: Zeke13:19 at September 19, 2007 6:51 PM
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Gee, Zeke-
While your beloved Republicans made us the greatest debtor nation of all time - to the Mainland Chinese, no less - the greatest exports in America remained Agricuture, Technology, and ENTERTAINMENT.

Manilow's "Greatest Hits of the 70's" was released yesterday.
Check out where that album hits the Billboard album charts next week, as well as where Manilow ends up on Billboard's global charts and sales.

While Bush and his cohorts invest us in...

A) A war we're gonna lose to the tune of $2 BILLION dollars a week.

B) Exporting jobs by giving American companies tax incetives to outsource.

C) Artificially pumping the economy with a .5 interest rate cut while we're perched on the bubble of a debt-based economy.

...There were those fighting to save the American economy by generating revinue and easing the deficit-

To quote Stephen Colbert:

MANILOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

Its official. Rae has bad taste in music.

Posted by: Zeke13:19 at September 19, 2007 7:23 PM
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Oh Dear...

I've wrangled on Weezer, Bad Religion, and Green Day videos. If I were called again, I'd invite Rae in a minute.

I couldn't take someone like Zeke ANYWHERE.

I'd never work in the industry again.

The music industry is coming to an end soon. All of the bands I know who are signed to major labels or indy labels tell me this at each show.

The music industry is coming to an end soon. All of the bands I know who are signed to major labels or indy labels tell me this at each show.

Posted by: Zeke13:19 at September 19, 2007 7:56 PM
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Bwahahahahaha!

Zeke, you don't know ANYBODY at a major label.

(At this point I want everyone to go to the "Rock for Life" website, and check out Zeke's kind of musuck. Nobody's listening...)

"Either way, alienating one's fan base is never a good idea. Ask the Dixie Chicks."

This was the main sentence I was responding to.

THEN Jill continues to generalize too:

"As an all too typical liberal who is intolerant of opposing views, you made your bed, so you're going to have to sleep in it. (Speaking of, neither do liberals like the consequences of who they sleep with in that bed.)"

Then you all admit you probably wouldn't want to go on the View anyways. I am not sure how the conservative girl is, b/c I think the View looks stupid. But if I were a singer and liberal I probably wouldn't care to show up at Hannity or O'Reilly's shows. It doesn't make me "intolerant" or "I WANTish", it's just my choice who I want to be interviewed by. It's not my duty as a performer to go on every talk show. My political views are separate from my performance and if I felt that there was a chance I would be hounded for my political views I might not want to do the show either.

"To quote Stephen Colbert:

MANILOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!"

OOOMG I can't believe he lost to Tony Bennett. It seems so sacreligious!!!

::still thinking of a good sin to confess to 1-888-OOPS-JEW ;) ::

Bailing out on people who paid good money for concert tickets just because you dislike the politics of the state you're playing in is dumb. Not wanting to appear on a talk show because you think that the conversation might get steered to something besides your upcoming album is your prerogative. My thing is he probably shouldn't have agreed to do the View in the first place because he knew it entailed having to argue with Hasselbeck.

But she's not the little frail damsel in distress that you all like to make her out to be. She was a willing participant in the Rosie wars after all.

Uh-oh, PIP, you can't be saying anything about Jews, its offensive!

Who cares? Serious what is the point of this post.

Whatever, Barry sure seems very intimidated by her, even with three other women be on his side!

haha, JK, that number exists so that any offense I did against him is forgiven! I want to think of a good one, though!

Not a fan of Barry. I find Elizabeth insipid. Don't care about either's opinions. You PL seem to care a great deal over media coverage rather than the content of your supporter's lack of credibility.
You folks are the easily led folks that believe tv commericails enough to remark upon them. Silly children.

PIP, haha, what's the number for Pentecostals then?

haha, no idea. But since Colbert is part Jewish, now is the right time of year!

I didn't know Colbert was part Jewish!

Didn't you see the DNA episode?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1aHQ3VePfE

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/colbert-report-colbert-jewish/3177461457

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/12515-colbert-report-happy-rosh-hashanah

Didn't you see the DNA episode?!

A. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1aHQ3VePfE

B. http://video.aol.com/video-detail/colbert-report-colbert-jewish/3177461457

C. http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/12515-colbert-report-happy-rosh-hashanah

I seem to be having video loading issues. I'll admit I'm not the most faithful viewer of the Report, and when I went to Europe this summer I really got out of the habit of watching Stewart and Colbert. (Though the Daily Show is actually on CNN International, the apartment where I was staying didn't have a working TV) :-(

You can't see them?

Well I don't expect you to, I'm only a little obsessed with the guy!

"(Though the Daily Show is actually on CNN International, the apartment where I was staying didn't have a working TV)"

CNN s****

Oooh, jasper, very clever as always.

Very mature!

Where's the "out of line" police now?

JK,

Jasper has not used foul language, called anyone a name, or blasphemed...what exactly has he done that you want censored?

Me and PIP were having a pleasant conversation and he drops in his "CNN s***". We were chastised the other day for being "immature", and here he is acting like a 4th grader talking about something that is besides the point and doing it in a juvenile way.

Doesn't Joy Behar look like she could be Bette Middler's twin sis?

PIP -

"But if I were a singer and liberal I probably wouldn't care to show up at Hannity or O'Reilly's shows. "

Many singer and politicians do not go on O'Reilly. As far as I know, no one blames them! ;-) However, if Marilyn Manson can be on the show (2 times that I know of) anyone should be able to do it. Many agree with you on the Hannity and Colmes comment. For some time now one of them will not interview someone, I'm under the impression that in order to get people on they had to do this, especially Democrats with Hannity. Sometimes I wish Hannity would hush so people could talk!

As for the view and Mannilow - you have to admit, its a bit much. It's not like Elizatheth is an O'Reilly or Hannity. The few segments I have seen, she usually backs down. (Unless it is Rosie - They just grated on each other's nerves and it showed.)

PIP,

He wants to go on to promote his record, not discuss politics. He could have just asked that politics not be discussed, but he targeted Elisabeth...I can't stand the show myself, but his behavior does seem a little extreme...

Oy, I'm at school.

@Zeke: I have wonderful taste in music. Savage Garden was awesome. Darren Hayes is now a solo singer and he is absolutely marvelous. :) The Birthday Massacre and Dresden Dolls are pretty fantastic too.

^_^

"He wants to go on to promote his record, not discuss politics. He could have just asked that politics not be discussed, but he targeted Elisabeth...I can't stand the show myself, but his behavior does seem a little extreme..."

MK and Val..

My point was that he was probably afraid that he would have to discuss politics rather than promote his record. That was what I'm trying to say. I wouldn't go on O'Reilly's show to promote a record, because he'd harp on my politics the whole time. Again I don't know Elisabeth, if she really is a peach it might be a shallow move on his part, but if she typically does this it is understandable why he requested he only be interviewed by the other three.
Also I was mostly agitated on the fact that he was harped on for such a silly thing as saying "hey you know what, I really don't want to go on the View now" by saying that he "alienated his listeners" like the "Dixie Chicks" and all of the people going "such a typical liberal!" I was like jeez, I never seen an uproar about Toby Keith's antics. My sister likes him. She said at his concerts he rips on liberals all the time. At one show he did a photoshop of Natalie from the Dixie Chicks hanging on to Saddam. Later he tried to deny he ever supported the war, as if he can just say things like that and people would forget.
I think such a topic is more interesting than "OMG Barry Manilow didn't want to go on the View because he detests that chick. What a typical liberal!" And the same thing happens all the time with conservative artists but I don't hear complaints here about some of them not going on liberal talk shows (I hear of conservatives refusing to go on Colbert/Stewart all the time!). If you hate someone, why go on their show? Especially if all you want to do is promote an album?

"Sometimes I wish Hannity would hush so people could talk!"
Heh, I absolutely agree!

http://www.tnr.com/blog/theplank?pid=75002

http://www.cinemablend.com/music/Toby-Keith-Is-Your-Big-Dog-Daddy-3748.html

PIP,

He didn't want to go on because of her views on abortion...not because he was afraid of being interviewed. Again, he could have stayed away from politics. From what little I know of Elisabeth, she's kind of mousy unless you push her against the wall...

The reason the article was interesting was a. he wouldn't go on because of Elisabeths pro life views and b. since it tied into abortion, it seemed like a good fluff piece. Gotta keep the people smilin'...

You know I can't smile without you
I can't smile without you
I can't laugh and I can't sing
I'm finding it hard to do anything
You see I feel sad when you're sad
I feel glad when you're glad
If you only knew what I'm going through
I just can't smile without you

Then that makes Manilow shallow. So what? Almost every celebrity is the same way. It's not bad enough to disown him over. You should like him for his music. Many of the people on my playlists are conservative.

But yeah, it's a fluff piece. All of those comments agitated me though. "typical intolerant liberal" is getting old.

This is great.

http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/player.jhtml?ml_video=103031&ml_collection=&ml_gateway=&ml_gateway_id=&ml_comedian=&ml_runtime=&ml_context=show&ml_origin_url=/shows/the_daily_show/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_large=true

for the record PIP,

"typical intolerant liberal"

I don't think and I hope that, I have never used that term...

You are good about that,mk. thanks.

PIP,
WHEW!

I have never been any fan of The View. What did bother me was Donald Trump getting into the same sandbox with Rosie O'Donnell. They acted like a couple of children with their public squabble. I was embarassed for The Donald, I expected nothing better from Rosie.

Mary: I have never been any fan of The View. What did bother me was Donald Trump getting into the same sandbox with Rosie O'Donnell. They acted like a couple of children with their public squabble. I was embarassed for The Donald, I expected nothing better from Rosie.

I've never seen a whole show, just snippets while flipping around through the channels.

Rosie - she said some truly loony things, and I just couldn't help but think of her as a braying donkey, often.

Doug

Mary re: Rosie/Donald feud...........did you know that they are still at it? Rosie has a book coming out. *gasp*