Damn.

time to MOAB the mill

Not true. Openline is reporting in 1993 the PDD was amended to disallow any nonprofit medical use.

Why is the mayor so hot to get Planned Parenthood up and running?

Regarding the picture - Are those the exam rooms?

"Why is the mayor so hot to get Planned Parenthood up and running"?

Because a nice modern medical clinic like this is a good thing to have in your city.

valerie, that's what I thought.

valerie, My post abortive pals all told me that they do it assembly line style. One girl called it a "cattle call." Get em in, scrape em out, try to show phony compassion, take their money. That's the truth about abortion. That's why they have so many rooms.

In our yellow pages, some abortionists are offering a sound proof suction machine. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

Heather, that's how they do abortions at one of the clinics I pray at. They devote Saturdays to abortions only. The girls arrive one after the other from 7:30 to about 9:30. One day they had 21 girls in there.

carrie, yes. Most clinics do it this way. They all have their main killing day. My friend said that she was pretty much rushed in to the operating room, and the abortionist greeted her in the stirrups. "Hi there." "Let's get ya scraped."

carrie, BTW, welcome to the site! Your posts are excellent!

The sound of the suction machine often causes PASS trauma- having a soundproof one draws women who want a 2nd or 3rd, (etc) abortion but are still afraid of the noise.

It is chilling to actually see how a clinic looks from the inside. How dehumanizing for the women.

Well, looks like the clinic might open up after all...

I thought PP always fought the term 'medical facility' since they don't want to play by the same regulations dictated by the state.

Let's hope they can still get them on committing fraud. I can't remember who wrote this in one of their posts, but what ever happened to the choice of the people who don't want PP in their neigborhood or town. I guess choice only applies when women want an abortion.

midnite, hi. Hope you are well! My b-day is today. Sandy, hello! We have to start giving out that 1-800-get help card to a few more people. Sally needs that number in a BIG way!

Those exam rooms don't have any DOORS! I thought PP was SOOO concerned about women's privacy, that's why they oppose every parental notification law.

Note to Mom and Dad - just peek in the window as you pass by.

Hey Heather! Happy Birthday! I hope it was tons better than mine! What did you get today??

So I just subbed to the Aurora PP blog.

There are now TWO subscribers... guess they are not as popular as they thought! TWO??? And one of them is ME???

Even I have more subscribers than that!

It looks like the exam rooms do have curtains. It kinda reminds me of some emergency rooms.

Is that the room they do the abortion in? If you look you can see two trash cans. One is smaller and has a foot pedal to lift the lid which is more than likely be for biological waste. On the end table there is a red container, which looks to be what is used for the needles to be disposed in. And next to the chair looks to be a medical cart of some sort. It could be an anesthetic cart - it doesn't look like a "crash cart" though. It could also be a "blood drawing" cart. ( I can't remember the technical name for that).

Why would all that stuff be in there if there isn't a table? Does the chair turn into a bed type thing? Even if it is just for drawing blood and other test, the chair is up against the wall which doesn't make sense. You have to be prepared in case a patient passes out or vomits. If you go to a lab to have blood drawn you will see that the arms on the chairs you have to sit in can be quickly moved away from you. That is to catch you or easily move you in case you get sick or pass out. That would be very difficult in either chair that is in the room.

How could anyone be comfortable in those kind of rooms? Considering the content of most discussions that would go on in a PP, wouldn't you want more privacy?

Happy belated Midnite, and Happy Birthday Heather!
Your baby is adorable by the way!!!

I think the design is logistical if you think about it.

If there were doors, there would need to be space for them to swing and the hall would have to be wider. A nurse or volunteer behind a closed door can`t monitor the hall or other patients.

Also with the open design, a nurse or volunteer can just walk up and down without having to stop, open and shut a door and interact with a patient. She can just glance and go. And if she has to stop because a patient asks for something, she could still hear a patient in one of the other stalls and leave directly. So it saves on staffing as well.

Privacy is minimal, but hey they have a business to run and want to balance efficiency with patient needs.

Thanks Sandy and midnite!

Hippie -

There are at least 5 rooms. Don't you think there should be more than one nurse? What if 2 patients had problems at the same time? I would think they would have at least 2 CNA's or equivalent to assist the nurse. And doors could be sliding doors. The ER in the hospital here has sliding glass doors that have a curtain that can be shut for privacy. I don't know if that would work for something like this....just a thought though.....

I just find it strange that a place that insists that women have the "best" care are set up like an ER with no privacy.

I don't think those are exam rooms.

Look a the soft lighting and the soothing green color. I think those are recovery rooms.
I go to a cosmetic surgeon who has a similar setup. Our local hospital is the same. It allows recovery room personnel to monitor everyone easily.

soothing green color I thought it looked more like prison green to me, but I guess tastes vary.

Heck, you could throw the entire lighting of Las Vegas in there. Have beautiful nurses on roller skates! It's still a baby killing factory.

I have no idea how PP will use the space.

My impression is that the space is designed for the ease and convenience of the staff.

The stalls would likely be the same with or without doors except they would need to be a little larger so you could walk around and the hall would need to be a little wider so the doors could swing.

It is appears to save facility space and save staff time.

I think they are prep rooms. When I had to have a procedure(NOT an abortion)I was put in a room like this to get the IV going. I have no idea how they prep someone for an abortion but I don't think PP would want a picture of the room, and the instruments used, going around.

They could be prep or recovery. I've never been inside an abortion clinic, so I wouldn't have a clue.

They wouldn't put the procedure rooms that close together. Think of all the women who will be screaming and crying. I have heard that abortions can be physically painful.

I've always had a bed for prep and recovery with sugeries. With the exception of getting my wisdom teeth pulled, but that was one of the dental chair/beds.

I really hope that isn't recovery. I had a D&C with one of my miscarriages and it was uncomfortable to sit right afterward because of the cramping.

Prep room I can see...... But I still wouldn't want to be that close to everyone.

I know how then could best make use of that space. Once the Court finds that they intentionally defrauded Aurora's officals, and their permits for a non-for-profit medical facility are denied, they can use the 22,000 sq ft as a 7.5 million dollar storage locker.

Sorry for the long post.
What I understand is that there are 13 recovery *rooms* (or stalls) in this horrendous baby-killing death camp.

That's THIRTEEN 13 ! (Check out the floor plans to verify - I think they are on Jill's site.)

Thirteen recovery *rooms* means they plan to kill a great number of God's precious infants in the shortest period of time possible.

The area in the photo is on the EAST side of the place, facing the employee parking lot and entrance, which faces the sidewalk where we stand and pray. The small, high, bullet-proof, windows have a reflective, *privacy* coating -so you cannot see inside during daylight.

The green chair looks like the reclining-type chair, found in medical facilities, blood banks, etc. This would be for any poor *patient* that became light-headed or passed out: due to blood loss or shock. She could quickly be reclined to enable blood flow to the head. The recovery spaces were designed to look rather casual and sparse on purpose: to diminish the idea of being in a medical facility, which it certainly is not.

I seriously doubt there will be many nurses working in that place. For one thing, nurses are more expensive than inexperienced workers. Most nurses are very compassionate people who want nothing to do with killing babies. I've observed a number of the PP trainees going in and out of the death camp, and most do not look like the *nurse* type. They mostly look like radical, extremist pro-abort, femi-nazi types. I'm being serious.


Make no mistake, this is a baby-killing assembly-line. It reminds me of the Nazis' medical experimentation rooms. (Remember Mengele?)

Another observation, if a *patient* would need to be taken by ambulance to a hospital, the *back* door on the east side (recovery room side) is not a wide door. Although ambulance gurnees are narrow, you would still think that there would have been a double-door installed for this purpose. And I doubt they would want to wheel a hemorhagging patient out the front door, which has a wider door, in full view of the waiting victims.

May God never allow this place to open.

As for the Planned Development District: this was set-up 34 years ago in 1973 (same year as Roe v Wade, btw). The area has long been *developed*.

It only seems fair and reasonable to area residents that if the entire area is already well-developed, with many businesses and residences bordering this property, that a special use permit would be required, to protect the residents and their properties from unwanted types of uses, like the largest baby-killing center in the U.S.A.!

Wow Paul, sounds like you're not in favor of abortion rights.

You're judging the quality of the nurses on their appearance? That's real nice.
What exactly does a "radical, extremist pro-abort, femi-nazi type" look like? Words of distaste for you fail me. I'll let others take a stab at it.

Paul,
I've heard that PP does not call ambulances for hemorraging patients. They have to call for help themselves.
http://www.queenofpeace.ca/Woman_Sues_Planned_Parenthood.htm

"I've heard that PP does not call ambulances for hemorraging patients. They have to call for help themselves."

45 million abortions and that happened, what, once?

"45 million abortions and that happened, what, once?"

Hal, you comment proves that you are ignorant of women�s health issues. Women hemorrhage a LOT in childbirth, in abortions, in hysterectomies, etc. Just because it's not REPORTED by PP doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Believe me, women hemorrhage for a lot of reasons, and hopefully they are in a well equipped hospital to receive proper care. Unfortunately PP is NOT one of those places.

45 million abortions and that happened, what, once?
Even if it were true that it was a one time occurence,
that's OK? For the staff to ignore a bleeding patient?

That's not "slipping through the cracks", that's cruelty.

And ah, how some people remain drastically ignorant to the fact that MANY INNER CITY HOSPITALS face the exact same issues. And on a waaaaay bigger scale.

Exact same issues...???
I'm not sure what you mean. If they are at the hospital already, than how can they face the "issue" of refusing to call an ambulance to take them to a hospital???

Inner city hospitals do have their challenges, I just am wondering if you can elaborate on what you are referencing?

Actually, you're right, Milehimama. I got a little ahead of the debate, lol. They do often have issues with basic hygeine, employing qualified individuals, and so on and so forth. It frustrates me when people just get so fetus-centric that they can't stop and focus on the people already in the world before they focus on bringing more people into it.

Note to Mom and Dad - just peek in the window as you pass by.

There are no windows...or at least not that you could "peek" into. They are way up at the top, which is why it was nicknamed Auswitch. It looks like a factory...as in baby killing factory! Assembly line style.

It always confuses me when pro-aborts say "We don't need anymore PEOPLE in the world" or "...focus on the people already in the world before they focus on bringing more PEOPLE into it."

I just can't understand why it's a FETUS one second and a PERSON the next....

No one knows the path of a child. Why are all these aborted children destined to be "burdens" on society? What if Einstein, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Mother Teresa, etc... had been aborted. Do you think that of the 45 million abortions that have been performed, NOT ONE of those children could have changed the world for the better? And yes, I think even ONE Gandhi is worth all the other "burdens."

Midnite,

Hey Heather! Happy Birthday! I hope it was tons better than mine! What did you get today??

Now Midnite,

We threw you a huge windig! Not our fault you didn't come. I even sprang for the expensive champagne! AND I got you a jeep and an EMU.

EVERYONE was there. How could Heather's birthday possibly top that? (We still haven't found Thing One...Thing Two fell asleep in the bathtub with three lemmings and what was left of the birthday cake...and feathers, God so many feathers! It was all Bethany's fault)

Hal at September 27, 2007 4:43 PM

You're judging the quality of the nurses on their appearance?

I said the women entering the bldg don't have the appearance of nurses: not dressed in scrubs or lab coats; strange-looking appearance. They are probably not nurses at all.

What exactly does a "radical, extremist pro-abort, femi-nazi type" look like?

See the next post on Jill's blog. Also see the photos PP has posted on their own flickr . com photo site.

Back to the photo of the 13 *recovery* rooms and the women who will be suffering from their ill-fated and regretful decision to abort their innocent babies, IF this place ever opens...

This PP baby-killing factory will attract women from far and wide - Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin, etc. As the women make their way back home on the interstates and highways, some will be hemorrhaging, some severely.

Will they be able to get the emergency treatment they will need as they travel along the highways?

DOES ANYONE CARE??


As far as women hemorrahaging, just google it. I found this on first try:
http://tinyurl.com/37hdaf


A story of a woman with chronic hemorrhaging 7 weeks post-partum. She states the ob-gyny perforated (meaning punctored) her uterus in doing a D&C (diletation and currettage).

Hal, are you still with me? Do you even understand what these words mean?

I misspelled *punctured*.

I googled *punctured uterus* and found this site of the State of South Dakota, listing possible complications from abortions.

http://tinyurl.com/3xasss

Hello Hal, are you reading? Go to that site and see for yourself what the state says about possible complications following abortions.

Many women have died as a result of their uterus being perforated by an abortionist. And if the women who abort their babies at PP in Aurora are travelling long distances on the highways going home, and are hemorrhaging profusely (that means a great deal, Hal) will they be able to get emergency medical treatment in time to prevent their possible deaths??

Here's another story from WorldNetDaily.com on the botched abortion by baby killer Meryl Severson, done at the Lincoln, NE PP baby-killing mill:

http://tinyurl.com/3xbpvr


I think it appropriate to pull the following quotes from WorldNetDaily's story on the lawsuit being filed by the woman from Omaha:

A lawsuit has been filed against Planned Parenthood's business in Lincoln, Neb., over an abortion that left a woman with a "catastrophic perforation" of her uterus, which could have killed her had not two hospital physicians performed an emergency hysterectomy.


It is the latest in a list of lawsuits launched against the abortion provider over its treatment of women who come into its places of business.


The action was filed on behalf of a 40-year-old Nebraska woman, whose name was not included in the lawsuit, against the Lincoln Planned Parenthood location, and Dr. Meryl Severson of Omaha, who did the abortion.

According to the Lincoln Star-Journal, Chris Funk is president of the Planned Parenthood facility, and declined comment on the action. Severson could not be reached.


The lawsuit says the woman went into the abortion business Aug. 17 for an abortion at about eight weeks of pregnancy. After waiting for several hours, the woman was given an injection, and she then heard a suction sound, felt pressure in the uterus and "immediately complained of excruciating pain," the lawsuit said.


She told Severson and the attendants to stop, but the doctor replied, "We can't stop," the lawsuit said. Three staff members then held her down as Severson completed the abortion, the complaint said.


Afterwards, the woman suffered bleeding, sharp pains and nausea, and she passed out and suffered the first of several seizures while in the abortion business' recovery area, the lawsuit said. It said she ultimately lost about 80 percent of the blood a normal human has.


Fire and rescue crews were sent to the clinic, where they picked her up and took her to a hospital, and there a doctor's report confirmed she had suffered a "catastrophic perforation" of the uterus.


The "extensive nature of the trauma," the lawsuit said, caused the doctor to seek help from a second physician to complete the emergency surgery to repair the damage, documented by photographs taken by the doctors.


In a signed summary submitted with the case, the emergency room doctor said, "Had she not received emergency care when she did, it is my professional opinion that the patient could have hemorrhaged to death," the doctor said.


Her lawyer, Jefferson Downing of Lincoln, also said he filed a complaint over the treatment with the state Health and Human Services Department.


"Our client has filed these complaints to bring to light the negligent actions of Planned Parenthood and Dr. Severson,” Downing said in a prepared statement. He said the woman's real name was not being revealed to protect her privacy.


The lawsuit, which alleges negligence and battery, is seeking nearly $37,000 in medical expenses plus unspecified damages for physical pain and mental suffering as well as permanent injury.



Above from WorldNetDaily.com, Sept 5, 2007

It is chilling to actually see how a clinic looks from the inside. How dehumanizing for the women.

Posted by: Carrie at September 27, 2007 11:36 AM

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I love the flooring and the shade of green. If you think it looks dehumanizing you'd faint dead away at the military hospital 'closet' I gave birth to my daughter in. 2 other women in the room within touching distance. Door wide open and every passer by given a grand view of my va j j. Talk about assembly line!

Sally, that must have added to the stress of labor! I lucked out- the hospital I gave birth to my son in was pretty good.

Hal at September 27, 2007 4:43 PM

You're judging the quality of the nurses on their appearance?
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Yeah, Hal - we saw lovely nurses. This is what Paul saw:

http://img85.echo.cx/img85/4387/higanxiety14hh.jpg

Laura -

I love Nurse Diesel!!

I loved it when Dr. Montague was in her closet! Too funny.

One of my favorite movies by the way....

;-)

I love Nurse Diesel!!
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I AM veterinary medicine's answer to Nurse Diesel.

(Gotta get me one of those lethal pointy bras...)

"Hello Hal, are you reading? Go to that site and see for yourself what the state says about possible complications following abortions. "

I didn't say there was only one case of complications, I'm sure there are many. I was saying there was only one case where they refused to call an ambulance. That's a mistake, if it happened. That's someone who wasn't trained and didn't know what to do in a bad situation. If it happened, I'd support the lawsuit to the end.

Sally, that must have added to the stress of labor! I lucked out- the hospital I gave birth to my son in was pretty good.

Posted by: Carrie at September 27, 2007 8:58 PM

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It wasn't a pleasant experience. Whoever was supposed to be monitering my pectosin drip don't bother to step it up all night long. I got to listen to the doctor, whom had just wandered in from the golf course, scream at the nurses. Oh so reasuring!
Now my son's birth was cake in comparision. Also induced, he was born in 4 hours as opposed to 18. I had a lovely Jamaiican midwife, a private room and lots of personal attention. The difference between an American birthing and an English birthing was astounding to me.

Heather, abortions are increasingly done using a 50cc syringe as the suction source.

No noise!

The fact remains: serious complications from early abortions are rare events.

Focusing attention on them, as you do doesn't make them any less rare.

By the way, most perforations of the uterus are subclinical non-events. The perforation heals right up without causing a problem.

SoMG:
So are abortions in the case of rape, but that's the first thing bandied about in the "choice" debate. "Early abortions"... is this clinic only going to perform chemical early abortions? I hadn't heard that.

Paul, I don't think nurses would be wearing scrubs unless they would be seeing patients. When my doctor is out mowing his lawn - he doesn't look like a doctor. The nurses I know look just like *real people*.

I hear you about the labor/delivery rooms. The best room I ever had was at the smallest hospital! When I was in labor with my third baby, it was Superbowl Sunday. There were so many women laboring that they were on gurneys in the hall and every single TV on the floor was tuned to the game. "Lucky" for me I had lots of complications so I got a room.

You know what's worse than the green? That sickly pinky mauve they put in every 'womens' floor.

Carrie,

"It is chilling to actually see how a clinic looks from the inside. How dehumanizing for the women."

Actually, it's not dehumanizing at all. That's basically what the recovery room looked like when I had surgery. Except that one actually has walls that divide the rooms instead of curtains.

Enigma,
I agree. The photo does have an unfortunate resemblence to a stable, but it is comparable to other recovery rooms I've been in.

Erin, I have been lucky enough to have avoided surgery so far so I did not know that this is what recovery rooms look like. Hopefully, my luck will continue!

Sorry Enigma. I meant to address that post to you,not Erin.

Laura -

"I AM veterinary medicine's answer to Nurse Diesel.

(Gotta get me one of those lethal pointy bras...)"

hahahaha.. I understand that! hahahah

I had one of those pointy bras. I dressed like Madonna on halloweeen and over exagerated a tad. I never thought about going as Nurse Diesel. hmmm.....Idea for this halloween!

SoMG:

50cc syringe - how do they control the suction? (I'm serious here - not trying to be argumentive.)

Carrie, 9/27 11:26am

Did I read your post correctly? 21 girls were operated on in a 2 hour period? My math is terrible so I'm going out on a limb here, but that comes out to about one girl aborted every 5 minutes. Is this place a factory?

50cc syringe - how do they control the suction? (I'm serious here - not trying to be argumentive.)

Posted by: valerie at September 28, 2007 9:15 AM
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I think she's talking about menstrual extraction.
http://www.io.com/~wwwomen/menstruation/extraction.html

Mary, that's just when all the patients arrive. I don't know how they space out the procedures during the day. All I know is that the first cars start arriving at 7:30 and the last car arrives usually around 9:30. From what Heather wrote, I gather it is not uncommon for mills to have a day dedicated to abortions. The abortionist comes from another city twice a week to perform abortions. Hope this clears this up.

Carrie,

Thanks for clearing that up.

Most of the patients arrive in that time frame because that is generally when there is a policeman or woman on scene. People are not allowed into the PP on those days unless they have an appointment. Also, for women who are having an abortion without the general anesthesia, they need a good bit of time for the valium and I believe it's codine to kick in before the procedure. It's just a way to efficiently avoid protesters and to organize the procedures in a way that makes it run very routinely.

Erin, actually the mill I am taking about isn't a PP. I am sure they probably all run very similiar though. It is set back from the road sort of behing another building. The patients get driven right up to the door of the bulding which is at least 100 feet away from us. The state I live in has very strict laws anyways about what we can and can't do. All we do in walk up and down the sidewalk praying. It is all very peaceful. I prefer a quiet and gentle approach anyways because that's who I am.

Laura -

Thanks for the info. I was very confused. It makes sense now.

BTW - Even though I probably will not agree with most of what is on the website I loved this:

"We PROTEST, dammit. And we're doing something about it. "

Valerie, you control the suction with an ordinary stopcock valve.

Who cares about noise? It's still murder!

Incidentally, Heather, women very rarely scream or cry during abortion, which is typically NOT painful.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Somgh, bull s$it!