Weekend question

new%20year%27s.jpgWhat stands out in your mind as the biggest pro-life story of 2007?

[Graphic courtesy of SimsGamer]


Comments:

For me, it's a tie between PP being exposed on an enormous level worldwide for its evil, which brought us "new" pro-life activists out (like me)

...and

The research that developed the adult stem cell breakthrough.

Posted by: AB Laura at December 29, 2007 9:51 AM


I agree completely! But I'd add the George Tiller story! Thank God he's on his way out! I feel like we caught Jack the Ripper!

Posted by: mk at December 29, 2007 9:53 AM


Hi, mk!

Yes, George Tiller, I agree!....2008 is going to be GREAT!!! Can't you just feel it???

Posted by: AB Laura at December 29, 2007 10:01 AM


I agree with the stem cell breakthrough.

Then there is also the U.S. Supreme Court upholding the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act.

Posted by: Ellie at December 29, 2007 10:03 AM


AB Laura,

After reading these posts, I think 2007 wasn't too bad either.

Depending on the new pres, yes I think this could be a remarkable year...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fe11OlMiz8

Posted by: mk at December 29, 2007 10:10 AM


Hi there guys. What's up with Tiller?

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 10:16 AM


HEATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!

How are you!!! We've all been so worried about you...is everything ok???

Posted by: AB Laura at December 29, 2007 10:18 AM


MK, I love that song by the Atlers! Very funny...I was listening to that just the other day on Rick and Bubba.

Posted by: Bethany at December 29, 2007 10:19 AM


Everyone has brought back such great memories here! This is a wonderful topic.

I think the Aurora scandal being brought to the open was a great thing for 2007.

The adult stem cell realization was possibly the BEST thing to happen in a while.

Posted by: Bethany at December 29, 2007 10:21 AM


Thanks all!! You know I luv ya. Just had to take a slight break. I had a lot of things going on, and I wasn't able to make time for the computer. However, I am back. So, what's new? Fill me in..

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 10:22 AM


Heather,

I should have know that mentioning Tiller would bring you back.

We missed you!!!!! How was your Christmas? Where ya been????

Posted by: mk at December 29, 2007 10:22 AM


Missed you, Heather!!! So good to see you again. :)

Posted by: Bethany at December 29, 2007 10:24 AM


MK, I am soooo sorry. I sure hope you guys had a great Christmas!!! Wasssup with Tiller?

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 10:24 AM


Thank you, Bethany!! I really have missed y'all. I consider you guys to be my "pro life" family!!

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 10:26 AM


Have we lost any people? Gained any?

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 10:28 AM


We're just nominating him as the biggest pro life story of 2007 (getting charged with ? felonies) and the fact that whats his face got fired...

Posted by: mk at December 29, 2007 10:29 AM


MK, he HAS been charged?...Felonies? DO TELL.

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 10:31 AM


Just the same old, same old...nothing new...

Tiller Grand Jury Set to Convene January 8, 2008

Wichita, KS – A grand jury investigation into suspected criminal wrong-doing by late-term abortionist George R. Tiller has been scheduled to convene in Sedgwick County on January 8. Retired District Court Judge Paul Buchanan will oversee the investigation.

The grand jury, which was called via the citizen’s petition process, was originally set to convene on October 30, but was stayed by order of Kansas Supreme Court Chief Justice Kay McFarland. Operation Rescue filed a motion to intervene in the case.

On November 29, Justice McFarland lifted the stay and ordered the grand jury to convene.

“We are thankful that the laws regarding the rights of the people to seek justice through the grand jury petition process are being respected. It is a true victory for the rule of law,” said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman. “We look forward to a full investigation and pray for justice to be served.”

Registered voters, over three times the number required by law, are asking the grand jury to investigate illegal abortions that may have been committed by Tiller over the past four years.

Tiller was charged in June with 19 criminal counts of committing illegal late-term abortions over a narrow time-span in 2003, without an independent physician’s signature. The state contends that Tiller and abortionist Ann Kristin Neuhaus were legally and financially associated, in violation of the Kansas ban on post-viability abortions. Because that business relationship continued into 2007, there is the likelihood that Tiller is responsible for hundreds of illegal abortions.

The grand jury will also be asked determine if Tiller committed abortions past viability to trivial reasons in violation of the law. Dr. Paul McHugh, a nationally renowned expert in psychiatry who examined Tiller medical records last year at the request of former Attorney General Phill Kline, came forward in June and stated in a interview posted on YouTube.com and the Operation Rescue web site that he believed Tiller was misusing psychiatry to justify abortions in violation of the law.

Posted by: mk at December 29, 2007 10:33 AM


Thank you, MK. Let's hope the dirt bag goes down!

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 10:36 AM


I would have to say the whole stem cell thing, mostly because it's just cool that they can make pluripotent stem cells out of skin cells- very Star Trek. :D

*geeks out*

And I must also "geek out" about the fact that Jill used a Sims picture. The Sims is one of my absolute favorite games! :D

Posted by: Rae at December 29, 2007 10:40 AM


Hi Heather. Glad to see that you are back.

Posted by: Carrie at December 29, 2007 10:52 AM


Carrie, thank you. Thanks to all who e-mailed me. I have not been on the computer @ all.

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 10:57 AM


I would think the mobilization of a community against PP here in Aurora is the biggest story. Then again, it's going on in my backyard.

Posted by: LB at December 29, 2007 11:07 AM


yaaaay, Heather's back...I missed you girl!

And I would say the biggest event would have to be PP being exposed for the liars that they are as a result of them coming to Aurora.

Posted by: Elizabeth at December 29, 2007 11:52 AM


HEATHER!!


WElcome back, love. Missed ya.

My 2007 story: PP Aurora. Swept like a hurricane. And got PP to be pathetically defensive.

Hey, Heather, we just got some great posts by a post-abortive mom, last name Stream. And of course the usual PC barrage against her, with a few exceptions.

And then you missed the undercover investigative report from Spain that showed illegal late term abortions in progress that was televised, get this, on a major TV network in Spain. Several doctors, psychiatrists, and employees from several clinics have been fined and/or incarcerated. You might want to extend another viewing invitation to Hal.

And then we've been defending the gospel of mercy against Zeke's interpretation.

Otherwise, it's been dull without you.

Posted by: carder at December 29, 2007 11:55 AM


AWWW, thanks for the warm welcome back! I'm sure that Hal and Laura missed me as well:]...Carder, where is the thread about Spain? Sounds sickening, but typical. I did read Carla's posts. She's just what we need! Again, I hope you all had a great holiday. Happy New Year to everyone.

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 12:18 PM


Click on December 21, 2007 archives. It should be at the bottom of the column.

Be ready to dust off your English-Spanish dictionary.

Posted by: carder at December 29, 2007 12:30 PM


yoy! Thanks, carder:]

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 12:31 PM


Jill, Heather, Carder, Bethany, Mk, Patricia, Elizabeth and so many more --
As a newbie, and sometimes poster, I would like to thank you for your posting here. I found this site when PP blew into my backyard (almost literally). I have learned so much from reading all your posts and have really come to enjoy all the interaction -- even with some of the PC'ers.
Such great information is shared here and it has given me real insight into the larger issues at hand.
Happy New Year (almost) to everyone.

Posted by: LB at December 29, 2007 12:39 PM


I'd definitely say stem cells!

Posted by: prettyinpink at December 29, 2007 12:48 PM


It has been a PLEASURE meeting you as well, LB. I hope you will stay around for a long time. :)

Posted by: Bethany at December 29, 2007 12:51 PM


Welcome, LB! My computer has been running so slow. EEsh.

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 12:56 PM


Thanks Bethany.

Now just everyone tighten your seatbelts for 2008. We will be dealing with zoning here in Aurora starting on the 7th. I think we have a strong case and will hopefully close PP down here within the year!

Posted by: LB at December 29, 2007 1:00 PM


Be sure to send any information you have to Jill as soon as you have it...she'll be sure to post about it! :) This sounds so exciting!

Posted by: Bethany at December 29, 2007 1:14 PM


I think this year's pro-life victory was the Open Letter to Dr. James Dobson exposing the Brutally Wicked nature of the Partial Birth Abortion Ban ruling.

http://www.coloradorighttolife.org/openletter

In fact there was no ban on abortion, but rather a manual on how to kill babies.

Quotes from the ruling:

"The medical prof­ession [abortionists] may find different and less shocking methods to abort the fetus..."

The ruling, allows the abor­tionist to deliver a late-term baby all the way up to the navel and then kill him (especially pp. 17-26). To actually violate this regulation (p. 17) "requires the fetus to be delivered ‘until... any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother'" as in a standard breech (feet-first) abortion.

"the removal of a small portion [‘say, an arm or leg'] of the fetus is not prohibited" and that's after the baby is pulled outside the mother as far as to his bellybutton (p. 22).

Thanks God to all the men and women who don't support this so-called PBA ban.

Posted by: Dani at December 29, 2007 1:27 PM


Just watched the Spain/abortion clip. Very upsetting.

Posted by: heather at December 29, 2007 1:27 PM


LB,

Thank you very much..I found this site as well when PP Aurora went up and have only been posting since about sept/octoberish, but I am glad you are here with us!

Posted by: Elizabeth at December 29, 2007 1:38 PM


Colorado Families Against Planned Parenthood has done some wonderful things this year as well with all the protests against the contractors who plan to build the nations largest child killing facility.

http://keeppeaceinstapleton.com/

Posted by: Dani at December 29, 2007 3:26 PM


I think all the stories mentioned are great...my vote has to go to Aurora PP though, because it's the one that got me off the bench....

Posted by: Hooves-in-Maw at December 29, 2007 3:48 PM


Is it safe to come out yet? Whew. I feel like I've been hazed. I suppose I could swallow a goldfish and make it official.
Thank you to those who have welcomed me here. Well, and to those who haven't. I don't mind the challenges. Even Sally's. She reminds me so much of myself so many years ago. The venom from her keyboard...
Anyway, the only reason I posted was to reach out to someone named Zoe. The rest of the PC's will not have their minds changed by me. Only God can soften those hearts and change those minds.

I would have to say the stem cell breakthrough.

Posted by: Carla Stream at December 29, 2007 4:44 PM


I think the overall assault on Planned Parenthood's image in the minds of regular Americans has been an amazing success. The Aurora incident(s) brought PP's shady tactic of lying their way into a city to the limelight, Lila Rose exposed their shadiness in dealing with the woman who come to them, and news coverage of them throughout the year has brought it to the mainstream. I remember being astounded by the number of people we talked to outside of the LA PP headquarters in May who were fully aware of Margaret Sanger and PP's racist history! More people are now aware of them receiving hundreds of millions in public funding, and they were the main target of the 40 Days for Life protests.

Its to the point where we can wonder if PP's New Year's resolution is to "not have to close too many clinics" or "not have to fire too many employees."

Sorry Jill, its kinda vague (like my pro-life bloggers for person of the year response), but I am just amazed at how the fight against Planned Parenthood has grown in this past year (and I've only been involved in pro-life activities for a few years...I can only imagine what someone who's been around for the long haul thinks).

Posted by: Phil at December 29, 2007 4:45 PM


Hey guys, this is totally off topic but I had to post this....just saw a promo spot about Juno and the actor who plays the dad was answering the question: "what do you think the message of this movie is?”

He said there is no message unless you are looking for one. He said that Juno decides to “see her pregnancy through”, but also “CONSIDERS THE OTHER OPTION”…..

I found it VERY telling that he couldn’t bring himself to say: “she considers ABORTION”

Just thought I’d throw that out there….all the other actors managed to dodge the same question very tactfully…..and completely.

Interesting, I thought.

Posted by: Hooves-in-Maw at December 29, 2007 9:00 PM


What do you think will be the biggest abortion story in 2008?

My bet: the election of President Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: SoMG at December 30, 2007 12:11 AM


SoMG,

Don't you wish sometimes wish that you could take a vaction...from yourself?

Posted by: mk at December 30, 2007 6:10 AM


ROFL!!

Posted by: heather at December 30, 2007 9:08 AM


Carla Stream, I did check out your site this morning. FANTASTIC! I loved how you told women that they were "running from their abortions." How true it is!! That behavior I observe from sooooo many post abortive mothers. Yet, some of them are clueless as to why they do the things they do.

Posted by: heather at December 30, 2007 9:12 AM


Clara, I also liked the part about the women being herded like cattle. 2 of my friends described it this way.

Posted by: heather at December 30, 2007 9:14 AM


{{ oops]] meant Carla. Above post.

Posted by: heather at December 30, 2007 9:19 AM


OK--rookie question: what does ROFL mean?!

Posted by: Hooves-in-Maw at December 30, 2007 9:35 AM


Hooves, it means, Roll On Floor Laughing [[ to MK]]

Posted by: heather at December 30, 2007 9:42 AM


Ah-ha! Thanks!

Posted by: Hooves-in-Maw at December 30, 2007 9:46 AM


Hey guys, I just saw how worried you all were about me on another thread!! Thanks again! That was so nice of you. I'll have to get my phone # to someone. I was just taking a break from cyber life:]

Posted by: heather at December 30, 2007 10:31 AM


Hi Heather,

It's nice to hear from you again.

All,

New England Patriots 16-0!! no losses this season.
the last time this was done (72' dolphins) abortion was illegal.

Posted by: jasper at December 30, 2007 11:11 AM


jasper, *clapping*...watched bits and pieces of that game yesterday. HOOOOOORAA!

Posted by: heather at December 30, 2007 11:18 AM


Yes, but as a die hard long time Colts fan it is my obligation to point out that any 16-0 season which includes a $500,000 fine for cheating

DOESN'T COUNT!!!!

(so there....)

Posted by: Hooves-in-Maw at December 30, 2007 12:01 PM


(And poking people in the eye should be called...the officiating sucked!)

Posted by: Hooves-in-Maw at December 30, 2007 12:01 PM


I don't know if you guys have seen this letter, but it's worth a read...

http://www.drlaura.com/letters/index.html?mode=view&tile=1&id=15200

Posted by: Hooves-in-Maw at December 30, 2007 12:14 PM


How about the smallest prolife story (being covered up by the MSM)
http://faithfulrebel.blogspot.com/2007/12/shocking-harrisburg-pennsylvania-police.html

Posted by: Milehimama at December 30, 2007 4:52 PM


Hooves-Maw & Milehimama,
Thank you both for sharing those links. I've never had an abortion, but always believed that if I did, that story would be mine...exactly how I would feel. It makes me wonder when I hear that someone who had an abortion never had any regrets, (as some posting here, do) if they ever will someday, or if they are just burying their feelings of guilt for now.

On the second link, WOW! Poor guy! How true, though. If it were a pro-abort getting attacked, the media would be all over it. What kind of world do we live in that the even the police, who are SUPPOSED to serve and protect, take sides with an assailant. These types of stories are getting all too frequent for my comfort!

Anyway, thanks again!

Posted by: AB Laura at December 30, 2007 5:26 PM


Milehi, that is a horrible story! The article is correct, if the roles were reversed it would have been plastered across page one.

Posted by: Kristen at December 30, 2007 5:34 PM


Biggest story of 2007? How about those pro-lifers in Kansas! Two grand juries investigating Planned Murderhood and Tiller, criminal charges against both, and creating public awareness of the corruption of abortion politics. No where in the nation is there such a sustained, complete assault on the abortion industry. My hat is off to them!

Posted by: Vanessa at December 30, 2007 5:44 PM


The biggest PL story of the year for me would be the Christmas fire bombings of local clinics by a PL domestic terrorist.

Posted by: Sally at December 30, 2007 6:37 PM


I enjoy a nice warm fire....bombing

:p

The biggest pro-life-related story of the year is without a doubt the PBA Ban that was taken up by the Supreme Court and spit out as an abortion manual that didn't even prohibit in any real sense the specific procedure it dealt with in the ban.

If you don't believe this is so then just go and read the majority ruling and see where it is clearly asserted that if the abortionist UNINTENTIONALLY delivers the baby past the navel then its OK if the baby is killed that way.

Of course, how would anyone be able to tell if the baby was pulled out that far unintentionally of not? The clinic workers could tell, but then it would just be their word against the abortionists and he can always claim that it was an honest mistake or just part of the typical risks he deals with when trying to perform a navel partial-birth abortion.

This is only part of the reason why this is the biggest story of the year. The other big reason is the fact that close to $250 million was wasted on promoting the passage of a bad law. A law that could not result in saving a single baby from being aborted as James Dobson later pointed out.

Let's pray for a president who will sign an executive order outlawing abortion across the USA within an hour of being inaugurated.

Posted by: zeke13:19 at December 30, 2007 7:02 PM


This is the biggest story of the year for sure!

http://www.americanrighttolife.org/

And stay tuned for more....

Posted by: Ehud at December 30, 2007 7:26 PM


"$500,000 fine for cheating"

LOL, no Hooves, the Pats don't need any cameras, as they proved.

"(And poking people in the eye should be called...the officiating sucked!)"

Hooves, he didn't poke him in the eye, he just put his finger in his face.

see you in the AFC championship.....

Posted by: jasper at December 30, 2007 7:29 PM


Justify all you want...getting busted for cheating tains your season. And if you think the finger thing wasn't "unsportsmanlike conduct" and the Giants deserved to get penalized for something the Pats did then so be it....

The post season will tell.

Posted by: Hooves-in-Maw at December 30, 2007 7:37 PM


Well, obviously, American Right To Life is a huge part of the story about the PBA Ban since the founding members of it were on the front lines showing how worthless the so-called ban is as far as having any effect at saving babies.

I suppose the best title for the overall story would be The rise of American Right To Life and its filling the vacuum of Godly pro-life leadership in the USA.

Posted by: zeke13:19 at December 30, 2007 7:57 PM


I don't know if this counts as a story. I need to be more well-informed of what is happening. But the movie Bella was a wonderful piece for the pro-life movement, even though it was not created to be a political statement.

Posted by: Anna at December 30, 2007 9:02 PM


Anna, I definitely think that counts. :) Thank you!

Posted by: Bethany at December 30, 2007 9:50 PM


"pro-choicer" knocks 69 yr old man unconsciense.

Milehimama,

I saw that the other day, I nominated it for tomorrows QoTD.

Posted by: jasper at December 30, 2007 10:55 PM


"I don't know if you guys have seen this letter, but it's worth a read..."

Hooves, thanks, I recommended a comment in the letter for QoTD...

Posted by: jasper at December 30, 2007 11:19 PM


whoot. Spent all day...finally finished shooting for the first part of our film, in which we spoof other music videos.

The one we finished was Fiona Apple's "Criminal" starring one of my best friends as fiona. It's all about how people think the video is so hot, but she looks kinda cracked out. So we played with sexy shots and then what drugs are really like--bleeding noses and vomit. And there were some silly spoofs in there too.

I'm pretty excited about this project, the best yet by far.

We also have "Loser" by beck, "Nothing But Flowers" by the Talking Heads, "The End of the World As We Know It" By REM, Scream and/or Beat it by Micheal Jackson on the list. Woot.

Posted by: prettyinpink at December 31, 2007 3:09 AM


Jill or Anybody,
Can you provide for me the name of the Pro-choice journalist who engaged in an online debate with Jill on this blog some time ago?

Thanks.

Happy New Year ya'll.

Posted by: carder at December 31, 2007 8:10 AM


Carder,
Is that the one that was defending "Journey" on her question for the You Tube Republican debate? If so, I think her name was Amy...

Posted by: AB Laura at December 31, 2007 8:38 AM


Carder, I believe you're thinking of Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune?

Posted by: Jill Stanek at December 31, 2007 8:42 AM


It wasn't Zorn. I remember she had posted on a pro-choice website, maybe rh reality check?

ABL, I think it was the gal who defended Journey. Amy what?

Posted by: carder at December 31, 2007 10:12 AM


Zorn didn't have the guts to engage "live" on the blog. Too much Tribune.

Posted by: carder at December 31, 2007 10:13 AM


Hey guys, I have a question for all of you on the thread above. *points up*

Posted by: heather at December 31, 2007 10:20 AM


Carder, ah, yes. The original post is here:

http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2007/11/journeys_journe.html

Yes, it was RH Reality Check - Amie Newman.

Posted by: Jill Stanek at December 31, 2007 10:22 AM


Thank you, Jill!

Yes, Amie Newman, facility worker-turned-journalist.

Honestly, I wasn't looking for this but it fell on my lap. I checked out a book on Adolf Hitler called "The Importance of Hitler". It's not glorifying the man, believe me, just a biography at the middle school level.

I got to page 85 where the question came as to how the camp guards could do what they did and then go home to have dinner with the folks. When confronted with reports of atrocities, they claimed no knowledge. But...

Said Hans Frank later at his trial:

"Don't let anyone tell you he had no idea. Everyone sensed that there was something horribly wrong with this system, even if we didn't know all the details. We didn't want to know! It was too comfortable to live on the system..."

Then I remembered what Amie Newman said:

"Believe me, women who access abortion KNOW there is a growing baby in their uterus. This is not a mystery to most women. We know that abortion "stops a beating heart" - some women we saw at the clinic wanted to take the fetus or embryo home with them to bury it - this is obviously akin for some women to burying a child. It's terriby sad sometimes..."

Just couldn't help but compare and contrast.


Ok, yes, pro-life story, um, Aurora still gets my vote. Already voted, thanks.

Posted by: carder at December 31, 2007 12:04 PM


Jill, I have to laugh - when I see "Aurora" I pretty much glaze over.

Posted by: Doug at January 4, 2008 11:31 PM