The pictures are what drew me to the PL movement. I used to be Pro choice.

Actually, I was in the dark about abortion too. I had no idea that unborn children were shelved to die. I've shared that story with some people. Some are shocked, and others have said "Why would a woman wait so long to have an abortion?"

It just goes to show you that abortion is terribly misunderstood. It's "okay" to kill the baby in the first trimester, but you had better not do it any later then that. ????????

I agree 100%. I believe that's why the "mushy middle" gets so hostile. They don't like that prolifers are here to remind them that abortion is out there. They resent being pulled out of their self-imposed bubble, if only for a second. They want to stick their head in the sand. We need to force the issue.

I think I'll talk like a proabort politican for a moment. Divisive blah blah blah Polarizing blah blah blah Common Ground blah blah blah Vitriolic blah blah blah Misogynist blah blah blah Paternalistic blah blah blah.

Very good article..you put into words what I think about this issue within politics. I was pretty much a "mushy moderate" until PP Aurora came to town. Thank goodness I'm not anymore.

Carrie, how about this one. Let's keep abortion safe, legal, and rare. Rare? Why? Why would we want to keep something that is right rare?

They don't want to answer that one Heather. I have asked that question several times to pcers on this blog and they skate around the issue. They say things like "it is a decision that no woman should have to make". They can't answer why it is a decision that no women should have to make. I mean, if abortion is no big deal to them, then why worry? There are plenty of elective surgeries out there. I don't see the pcers saying "let's make lasik eye surgery rare."

However, if it is a "big deal" to them, then why is it? If abortion is an important decision that no woman should have to make, why is that so? Why should it be rare?

Carrie, they can't answer anything. Think about it. It's rather difficult to keep a lie going.

BTW, I hear that they are trying to do away with that tired, old mantra.

Maybe Laura would care to take that one on!

Very true Heather. I suppose that's where the need they have to see us as "nuts" comes from. If regular people see abortion as evil, what does that say about them?

okay..Pizza break!

heather -- "Carrie, how about this one. Let's keep abortion safe, legal, and rare. Rare? Why? Why would we want to keep something that is right rare?"

The same reason we want to keep open heart surgery rare: because nobody wants to have surgery if it can be avoided with a daily pill, or diet and exercise, etc.

tp, open heart surgery is done to try to save someone's life. It isn't set up to kill another innocent person.

Abortion is an elective surgery. I've never seen anyone request open heart.

It goes back to something that is done to save the person's life. Is the abortion going to be done to save the mother's life? If so, then I'd have to agree with it.

Do you want to keep other elective surgeries rare TP?

Example: Gastric bypass is elective for morbidly obese people. Will you ever see it picketed? I doubt it. Most people do this to have a better quality of life.

The same reason we want to keep open heart surgery rare: because nobody wants to have surgery if it can be avoided with a daily pill, or diet and exercise, etc.

----------------- Abortion can be prevented from refraining from sex. It's simple.

I notice TP doesn't want to answer my question. TP, isn't it paternalistic for you to assume that you know what other people want? Some people Choose to have plastic surgery rather than submiting to a strenuous diet and exercise regime. Some woman choose to have an abortion rather than abstaining or using effective birth control. Some woman use abortion as a form of birth control.

Nobody wants to have surgery? I don't blame them, but what have 1.3 million women done every year to prevent those surgeries? Some women MUST like surgery. They use abortion as their chosen method of birth control.

Heather,
Come on now...refraining from sex? That would require self-control! That would be impossible (especially for self-centered pro-aborts!)

A woman I know had 7 abortions. She did nothing after the first one to prevent others. She's sterile now. She is lucky enough to have 1 living child. She didn't even make her guys use condoms.

Hello there, AB!

hey there, Heather!

that woman is lucky she isn't dead!

AB Laura, she almost drank herself to death. That's no lie!! I'm sure it was d/t self loathing. She was in ICU with severe ascites and ETOH poisoning. She remained in the hospital for a month. She also sought treatment for severe depression. She did stop drinking for about 2 years, but I hear that she's hitting the bottle hard again. This all happened after her hysterectomy. Doctors told her that her uterus was severely damaged from the excessive amount of abortions.

Another strange twist. She told me "I wanted more kids."

This was a woman who ranted "My Choice." every chance she got. I once told her that I was against abortion. You can imagine the scathing backlash I received from her forked tongue. Her "choices" are over, but not by her own "choice."

ironic, that word "choice", huh?

Yep, she made stupid choices. She will have to suffer the consequences of them. I tried to be her friend, but she was always too self centered for friendship. She always had to have a man in her bed. That's all that mattered to her.

how sad :(

I know. You want to help these women to keep them from self destructing, but abortion is a right in this country, so it's not that cut and dry. Part of me feels very sorry for her, but part of me views her as a self absorbed, selfish, B.

I doubt she was screaming at these guys to "pull out!!" She just spread em, and let them go to town.

I love you Heather...you're so blunt!!!

AB, thanks. I don't really know how to clean it up. Abortion is sickening, and some of these women are despicable. Some will lay down with anything due to an overwhelming sex drive. Ha, and some women bi*ch about guys being horn dogs.

I'm not willing to say that every post abortive woman is an innocent victim. I am excluding cases of rape and incest.

I know
:)

AB, I honestly don't believe that this woman ever intended to continue any pregnancies resulting from her sexcapades. I guess it could be considered premeditated murder.

I know this girl who had sex with 87 guys, and her uterus became radioactive, and then she gave birth to Mothra, and Tokyo was destroyed, and then she had to drive all her boyfriends around on a bus that had to keep going really fast or it was gonna blow up.

Heather,
That's a great point...I never looked at it like that. Premeditated murder or even negligant homicide!

Penelope (aka, Laura)...I really think you can do much better than that...it was a pretty lame attempt at humor.

That is Laura!

the woman is not funny.

one of the favorite things pro-abort (usually Democarts) like to do is call abortion a "wedge" issue, they really hate to talk about because they know they're wrong.

Is anyone else as worried about the state of mankind lately, as I am? Everything we are bombarded with is about war, killing, death, out of control teens, trashy celebrities, Planned Parenthood and their death agenda, genocide, MORE trashy celebrities, CHOICE, the damn ACLU, Greed, Hillary, taking GOD out of everything, people like Laura... ad nauseum.

Mike, yes! We are going to pot.

"But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth (travel), and knowledge will increase."

Daniel 12:4

Jasper,
I can't wait!

Is anyone else as worried about the state of mankind lately, as I am? Everything we are bombarded with is about war, killing, death, out of control teens, trashy celebrities, Planned Parenthood and their death agenda, genocide, MORE trashy celebrities, CHOICE, the damn ACLU, Greed, Hillary, taking GOD out of everything, people like Laura... ad nauseum.

Mike, there are writings from the time of the ancient egyptians that echo your thoughts.

The answer is that there are always people for who "the sky is falling."

In reality, things are rarely as bad or as good as they look.

Doug

It's just extremely depressing to watch the moral decay of our country. We are becoming a society where little is scared anymore, and everything is disposable...including babies.

Mike, without arguing some obvious things, I'd say that in the next couple decades you're going to see some really pessimistic sentiment, not based upon legal abortion, but upon a declining standard of living for most Americans and relatively "hard times," economically.

Believe me, that's what brings out the "sky is falling mentality."

Doug

Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers. What will become of them? This world is truly coming to an end.

- Socrates, 470-399 B.C.

I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance.

- Socrates, 470-399 B.C.

Abortion is bringing this world to an end. Heather.2008

Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers. What will become of them? This world is truly coming to an end.
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- Socrates, 470-399 B.C.

And where is the almighty Greek civilization now?

Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers. What will become of them? This world is truly coming to an end.

- Socrates, 470-399 B.C.

Laura, some things are eternal.