This :50 commercial, made for a class project and just posted on YouTube, indicates accidental pregnancies result in jerk men abandoning women. The pregnancies culminate in abusive mothers who raise criminals. All this makes abortion "a good thing."

So women who abort are stupid for having ok'd sex with pigs and are preempted child abusers. That's the message I get.

WARNING:Video contains sexual content and adult language.

It's very interesting that most abortion-choice advocates are against the death penalty, yet they would give the death penalty to someone that they only assume will someday commit a crime. But of course, this begs the question as to if abortion is murder, which this video, of course, dodges, and instead focuses on something completely irrelevant.

Must be a Freakonomics fan.

Bobby -

Just out of curiousity...are you against the death penalty?

For all intents and purposes, yes. I agree with John Paul II in Evangilium Vitae that while it should only be used in case when it would otherwise be possible not to be able to defend society. But as JPII goes on to say, such cases are extremely rare, if not practically non-existent.

Actually, I'm not terribly set in stone on this position. I'm open to arguments for either side. God love you, Hieronymous.

Ok, thanks for answering.

And btw, thanks for using "for all intents and purposes" correctly....if I see "for all intensive purposes" one more time, my poor English major head may blow right off my shoulders.

LOL. I do sometimes write "for all intensive purposes" just to be silly. I also like "it's mute point" instead of a "moot point." There's lots of other fun ones, but I can't remember them right now...

One of my favorites is "it's a tenant of that religion" instead of "tenet"....I always wonder who the landlord is.

May I add people who use "less" and "fewer" interchangeably, and people who use "literally" to express extent rather than factuality. Examples; "There are less people at the store." "Her baby was - literally - as big as a house!"

(I realize that there's more than one grammatical error in that mess, but those two drive me nuts!)

Haha. I remember watching WCW and the announcer would always say "He took his head off with that clothesline- literally!" It undermines the very meaning of the word "literally."

Jill,

Earlier the video played fine, but now it is starting and stopping...

literally:
(From the Mirriam-Webster on-line dictionary):

Main Entry:
lit-er-al-ly
Function:
adverb
Date:
1533

1 : in a literal sense or manner : actually
2 : in effect : virtually

usage: Since some people take sense 2 to be the opposite of sense 1, it has been frequently criticized as a misuse. Instead, the use is pure hyperbole intended to gain emphasis, but it often appears in contexts where no additional emphasis is necessary.

I had to watch the video about 5 times, I see two possible interpretations:

1) Abortion is good - It keeps these unhappy people from raising children. (I don't agree.)

2) Abortion is bad- let's get rid of the underlying societal problems so we don't have so much abortion.

So women who abort are stupid for having ok'd sex with pigs and are preempted child abusers. That's the message I get.

And why would you want these stupid women carrying pregnancies or raising children? Obviously, they'll only screw it up. You should be glad that stupid women get abortions.

Wait a minute...

Didn't Jill say that she was bangin' away as a teenager, got knocked up, launched a disasterous failed marriage, and left her kid at home to "suffer" while she waent out and partied?

Does this piece hit a little close to home?

Laura, Jill left her child in the care of a loving babysitter, no doubt. And not for a very long period of time either.

Working moms leave their children at daycares longer than Jill did with her child.

She was not in any way a child abuser. So knock it off, you little jealous bug.

I'm sort of with Bobby on the death penalty. I can't decide whether I'd say I'm opposed, except in certain very rare circumstances, or that I'm in favor but *only* in certain very rare circumstances. The rare circumstance? That the killer himself leave us no other practical option, by choosing to be a danger to other people's lives even if incarcerated. This means somebody who arranges "hits" from behind bars, or is an escape risk, or who is a danger to fellow inmates or visitors or prison staff.

So, as a living example: Ted Bundy and Ed Kemper. Very similar crimes -- each made a habit of killing young women. But Ted Bundy gave us no choice but to exectue him -- he had already escaped twice to kill again, and after he was executed prison officials found evidence that he was preparing another escape attempt. Ed Kemper, on the other hand, turned himself in and became a model prisoner. No reason to execute him.

But the abortion lobby wants pre-emptive capital punishment against people who they believe are demographically more likely to commit crimes! Then they say that the prolifers are inconsistent!

Laura, Jill left her child in the care of a loving babysitter, no doubt. And not for a very long period of time either.

Working moms leave their children at daycares longer than Jill did with her child.

She was not in any way a child abuser. So knock it off, you little jealous bug.
Posted by: Bethany at February 18, 2008 3:53 PM
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That isn't what Jill said. She said that she made her son suffer while she went out and partied. Are you calling her a liar? Or was she exaggerating? Jill would never stoop to dramatics Bethany.

My Main Man Da Bobster - Bobby Bambino - It's very interesting that most abortion-choice advocates are against the death penalty, yet they would give the death penalty to someone that they only assume will someday commit a crime. But of course, this begs the question as to if abortion is murder, which this video, of course, dodges, and instead focuses on something completely irrelevant.

Bud, I ain't agin' the death penalty, for one. Some people: I say light 'em up, fire 'em up, "X" 'em out, etc.

As for the unborn being "someone," that is an argument, even before we get to the rightness or wrongness of it.

Doug

I'm not terribly set in stone on this position. I'm open to arguments for either side.

Bobby, you, like Rae and PIP, et al, are refreshingly honest.

Not really arguing here, just stating how I feel - that the situation can make a difference.

Example - Jessica Lunsford, a nine year old Florida girl who was kidnapped by a guy who did terrible things to her before killing her. Incontrovertible evidence plus the guy confessed.

If somebody needs to push a button or pull a lever to kill this guy, I'd do it. Crazily endless appeal processes that end up costing more than keeping the guy in prison for the rest of his life; paying his room and board for many decades: ludicrous.

Doug

So women who abort are stupid for having ok'd sex with pigs and are preempted child abusers.

Oh yes. Naturally it's her fault. The lack of foresight! A veritable sin!

In any case, you must have been gagged and blindfolded to have interpreted it like that. Watch it again and retry. It's okay--that happens to the best of us.

O, Sarcasm! You curse my tongue and fingers alike! Begone!

Bethany, to Laura: you little jealous bug

OwOoOoOoOoOoOo.... are you gonne heave her into the dumpster too? : )

YAY LEAH!

I love Alberta - it's so beautiful and I had so many great times there. (Sigh....)

Doug

Doug:

Who doesn't love Alberta, I ask you? I too have had so many great times there. Pictures coming soon, too. Woot!

Three Hills is my love. :)

Doug,
"As for the unborn being "someone," that is an argument, even before we get to the rightness or wrongness of it."

I guess to be a bit more precise I should have said "being." But yeah, that is where I was going with that, saying that what you said is the heart of the issue.

Did I hear you were in Maine the other day? That's pretty close to me! Let me know if you're every in the New Hampshire Dartmouth ish area. We can chill.

Hey Bobby - yeah, was in Maine but 'twas a flying trip, up from NYC hell-bent to a job (so to speak) and then out of there just as fast due to an oncoming storm.

My mom lives in Kennebunk, Maine, so I'm in the area once in a while - so yeah, we can chill like big dogs.

Best,

Doug

OwOoOoOoOoOoOo.... are you gonne heave her into the dumpster too? : )

hehe you never know, Doug. :D

That isn't what Jill said. She said that she made her son suffer while she went out and partied. Are you calling her a liar? Or was she exaggerating? Jill would never stoop to dramatics Bethany.

No, I think she feels overly guilty for something that wasn't necessarily that bad. This shows that Jill really loves her child, quite the opposite of your deduction.

"so yeah, we can chill like big dogs."

WORD.

*gigglefit @ Bobby saying "WORD".*

Fo' sheezy my homeslizzle! I'm totally ditchizzle-ing physizzics todizzle. No motivizzle to go.

What up daaaaawwwwwwg? :)

:: laughing ::



Gotta love it.

That isn't what Jill said. She said that she made her son suffer while she went out and partied. Are you calling her a liar? Or was she exaggerating? Jill would never stoop to dramatics Bethany.

No, I think she feels overly guilty for something that wasn't necessarily that bad. This shows that Jill really loves her child, quite the opposite of your deduction.
Posted by: Bethany at February 19, 2008 8:36 AM
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I see. She didn't really make her son's life miserable. She was simply expressing a level of guilt that she never felt. (She lied) Because if she really did feel that guilty, she would have had to have done something really 'bad' to have had those feelings. In which case she could not possible love her son.

I see. She didn't really make her son's life miserable. She was simply expressing a level of guilt that she never felt. (She lied) Because if she really did feel that guilty, she would have had to have done something really 'bad' to have had those feelings. In which case she could not possible love her son.

No, Sally. Again, with the poor reading comprehension, I see.
Jill actually felt guilty for it. But I think from an objective point of view, anyone could see it wasn't nearly as bad as she felt it was.