A friend of mine who is a former communist told me a very fundamental thing about Democrats and the Democratic Party - she basically said: "It's all about abortion for them"

Basically saying - from her experience in Left wing circles and years of community agitation in San Fransisco and New York working in secret with many Democratic "law makers" that the number one goal of the Democrats is to keep abortion legal - this is their main goal - and also that there isn't too much difference between the CPUSA and DNC.

Her husband who escaped Cuba - a small island dictatorship with one of the highest if not highest abort rate in the world - once saw a number of speeches on TV during the last Democratic Party convention and he turned to his wife and said, "Ah, no I understand, the Democrats are the communist party because the speeches they give sound similar if not the same to the way the Central commitee sounded in Cuba!"

A friend of mine who is a former communist told me a very fundamental thing about Democrats and the Democratic Party - she basically said: "It's all about abortion for them"

Basically saying - from her experience in Left wing circles and years of community agitation in San Fransisco and New York working in secret with many Democratic "law makers" that the number one goal of the Democrats is to keep abortion legal - this is their main goal - and also that there isn't too much difference between the CPUSA and DNC.
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That's funny, whan you check Democratic polls, Republican polls, and polls of Americans in general, very few even consider abortion an issue that they care about - much less being "all about abortion."
It just isn't an important issue in this election cycle. When was the last time you heard it mentioned in a debate or heard the candidates argue over the matter? There's just too much important work to be done right now.

Biology 101 lesson for MM and other media outlets who
love to spread the NEWS SPEAK that Colorado is
carrying an amendment to its constitution to
legally protect "fertilized eggs."

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_8360651:

23+23=1

I agree with FF Laura, I'd vote for a pro-life Democrat if necessary. It's certainly not "all about abortion" for me. Although that might change if I thought there was ever a serious chance abortion would be banned. I don't think for a minute that's even a remote possibility.

There seems to be a consensus that the current situation works pretty well.

"There's just too much important work to be done right now."

Yeah, like cementing the abortion industry down pat so no one can touch it in the USA and overseas. We are dealing with very powerful people and institutions here - lots of money is passing hands to keep the mills open - the canidates might not talk about it but it is there. Why is PP so damm powerful? - because they have important and rich people helping it - mess with them and they will try to hurt you one why or another.

BTW I love your name fetus fascist, really but shouldn't it be abort facist?

"I'd vote for a pro-life Democrat if necessary. It's certainly not "all about abortion" for me."

Unfortunately, you won't have that chance very often, if ever, since the party tightens the screws on any pro-life person running for high office. For them, it's either "support abortion or forget about it."

S.

Why is PP so damm powerful? - because they have important and rich people helping it - mess with them and they will try to hurt you one why or another.

Posted by: Mario at February 29, 2008 9:59 AM
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...Not that you're paranoid or anything.

"...very few even consider abortion an issue that they care about"
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...and you know why, right? It's because the liberal, left-leaning MSM is tight-lipped with anything remotely related to the abortion issue...

Thank God for blogs like this and the pro-life grassroots movement...

They shoved PP down our throats right after Kennedy was killed - some Great Society Camelot myth- they wanted us to believe that PP was something good, something even holy and needed for the nation patriotic even - there was even a US postage stamp issued honoring PP - can you believe that! outrageous - I was a stamp collector as a kid and that even shocked me. How did this toxic PR happen to promote this vile organization where many ignorant people think it some government agency. Why so much taxpayer money goes to those ghouls? It's just outright outrageous how they have managed to ride the waves for all these decades, what a scam job - but a very well thought out scam and safeguarded by the powers that be.

Laura -

I'm really sick of your talk about the "polls." As I proved on the string awhile back, you can't say it's a non-issue when it's not even a CHOICE on the polls. And (again) the polls that DID have it as a choice it ranked in the top 10, 8, 6...

But it's all about the spin to you...go figure...

There are several pro-life Democratic senators. Very few people I talked about would say that abortion is the dealbreaker. They'd rather have someone that is a good leader and willing to make the changes they want.
The more pro-life Dems we get out there, the more America will change.

...one cannot be pro-life and vote pro-death.

...one cannot be pro-life and vote pro-death.

Posted by: jasper at February 29, 2008 2:21 PM
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Then you wont be voting for anyone who doesnt want our troups out of Iraq and Afghanistan as quickly as possible - which means you wont be voting for any GOP candidate.

jasper,

*yawn* got anything better to say?

TR,

Our troops are saving lives. Al-Queda, The Taliban and other nuts are killing them.

See TR, take a lot at your diabolical position which allows innocent unborn children to be butchered. You should really re-think it.

jasper, I agree.

Jasper, I disagree.

jasper, I agree.

Laura is right; abortion is not an important issue. That's why every single Democrat to run for president recently has either been a pro-abort for his entire career or has switched from pro-life to pro-abortion in order to run for president.

Plus there's the fact that pro-life Democrat Bob Casey, Sr. was not allowed to speak at the Democratic Convention since he was going to mention abortion. No, obviously, abortion is not an important issue.

Also, abortion is such a non-issue that people like Laura spend hundreds of hours trolling pro-life websites.

john, lol!

Oh, and, jasper, I agree.

While I certainly don't like killing, I'll vote for the party which kills murderers and terrorists rather than the party which kills babies and old people.

Who do Liberals thinks it a horrible evil for a US citizen to willingly join the armed forces and fight in the Middle East where they have a small chance at being killed during battle yet have no problem with the violent murder of over 3,000 American babies each day?

Because LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!!

Read the psychological details on it here.

The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness
http://tinyurl.com/2w76vp

And here

Liberalism is a Mental Disorder: Savage Solutions
http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=1972

Our troops are saving lives. Al-Queda, The Taliban and other nuts are killing them.

See TR, take a lot at your diabolical position which allows innocent unborn children to be butchered. You should really re-think it.

Posted by: jasper at February 29, 2008 2:53 PM
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you really are pathetically ignorant but Bush depends on idiots like you to buy into his bullscat - which is to be expected and by the way - unborn child is an oxymoron and mindless insensate nonviable tissue and cell structure isnt capable of being *innocent* nor is it *a child* and a simple surgical procedure is not 'butchering' anything

While I certainly don't like killing, I'll vote for the party which kills murderers and terrorists rather than the party which kills babies and old people.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at February 29, 2008 3:53 PM
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Oh - so babies and old people arent being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan ... tell us all how you fantasize bombs and bullets can differentiate, wont you?

Are you kidding? We love Bob Casey!

I'll vote for any pro-life Democrat willing to humiliate Rick "Sleeps-with-a-Fetus" Santorum and send him HOME!

And we know the Dems like to snuff out the babes - the old people would come next if they can. That's why PP & NARL has star studded fund rising events in the Hamptons. It's a big money making industry and the polls get lots of mula from the Baal and Moloch clergy. If abort wasn't a big deal politically why does Emily's list exist?

Give me a break.

Dems love it, it supports them, they promise utopia to the poor masses yet does everything possible to snuff the poor masses. And the poor masses are so ignorant about the whole thing that they go right along with it - hook line and sinker.

Um, the people in the service have decided to be there. It's their job.

Gee, don't some of you constantly remind us to "go to work, pay your bills, and don't ask for a hand out?"...Well, people in the military ARE doing just that, so quit whining!

That's funny, whan you check Democratic polls, Republican polls, and polls of Americans in general, very few even consider abortion an issue that they care about - much less being "all about abortion."
It just isn't an important issue in this election cycle. When was the last time you heard it mentioned in a debate or heard the candidates argue over the matter? There's just too much important work to be done right now

Posted by: FetusFascist at February 29, 2008 9:25 AM

RFF,
It's always important in every election cycle.
Why have you drones been constantly harping on the fact that you can't wait to get a pro-abort in the White House to appoint pro-abort judges?

I agree with John, if this issue is so unimportant, why are you here all the time??

And once again you have to trump every single person on this site with your voodoo knowledge of politics and every other topic that comes up.

And again, RFF, you have proven yourslef to have a pretty short memory. You have been asked over and over to leave people alone who have experienced a loss, but yet you continue to make fun of them.

Hard to imagine you can hold down any type of job. With your bad memory, you must get cats and dogs confused all the time.
Try to remember:
Cats go MMMEEEOOOWWWWW
Dogs go bark, bark, or woof, woof, or arf, arf

Sandy, LOL!! TRUE AS CAN BE!! FF, If abortion isn't important, why are you here every day? I guess it must be pretty important...DUH!

FF, Didn't anyone ever tell you that actions speak louder than words? Gee, this is a NO BRAINER. Words "I don't care about abortion." Action...type on PL site, type on PL site. NOTE TO SELF; DEFEND ABORTION!!!! DOUBLE DUH!

I agree with John, if this issue is so unimportant, why are you here all the time??

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Because it's important to me, but it's really not important to the Democratic Party. The Republicans seldom or never mention it.

By the way, NEVER tell me how to do my job - especially when you're a profession broodsow who FAILS 30% of the time.

Laura, I'm talking about Bob Casey Sr, not Bob Casey Jr. That's why I put that "Sr" after his name. Bob Casey Sr was not allowed to speak at the Democratic National Convention. Why? Because he was going to say something about being pro-life. But you say that this issue is not important. Would Casey Sr have been refused by the Dems if he were going to say something about capitalism, which is also in opposition to liberal ideology? Somehow I doubt it.

How about the Supreme Court? The number one question asked about any Supreme Court nominee is, "Do they support Roe v. Wade?" Certainly that's because abortion is such a non-issue, right?

TexasRed, US bombs dropped in Iraq and Afghanistan aren't targeting babies and old people (except for old terrorists). The politicians you support target preborn babies and disabled people for execution. So yes, I'll support the politicians who accidentally kill some babies and old people over the politicians who intentionally kill many babies and old people any day.

By the way, NEVER tell me how to do my job -
Posted by: FetusFascist at February 29, 2008 5:24 PM

Don't forget to clean the cat litter boxes and scrape up the dog poop before you leave tonight.

Mario: Why is PP so damm powerful?

Damm?

Because despite all the baloney that's attempted, it's an organization that helps many people and supplies many needed services.

IHal: t's certainly not "all about abortion" for me.

Nor is it for the vast majority of people, and that will only increase, IMO, as the standard of living of Americans declines, on average.

1.) People basically vote their pocketbook, and though there are sites like Jill's where abortion is a hot topic; the tidal wave, the 800 lb. gorilla in the room, the Great Sheep looking over our shoulder, is the economy and how we perceive ourselves doing.

1a.) And isn't that a bit funny - "how we perceive ourselves doing," while we are wont to blame others, the gov't, etc...?

2.) Immigration/Illegal Immigration will be the 2nd most important issue, again IMO.

Doug

Senator Bob Casey Jr is a right-to-lifer, but not a very enthusiastic one.

My bet: He will vote with democrats to break the filibuster against the Freedom of Choice Act, although he will also vote against the act itself.

--SoMG (Former Pennsylvania resident)

John L, you wrote: "people like Laura spend hundreds of hours trolling pro-life websites."

I don't know about Laura, but I troll here because I enjoy feeling superior. So few right-to-lifers know anything about abortion in the USA today.

Mario, you wrote: "Why so much taxpayer money goes to [PP]"?

Answer: Because funding PP SAVES us more $ than it costs. Paying for contraception is cheaper than paying for childbirths.

If PP were defunded, you'd have to pay HIGHER taxes.

Mario, you also wrote: "Why is PP so damm powerful? - because they have important and rich people helping it "

Similarly, the right-to-life movement has a few wealthy donors--Ever heard of Richard Mellon Scaife? Ever heard of the Catholic Church?--which overfund it.

I don't know about Laura, but I troll here because I enjoy feeling superior. So few right-to-lifers know anything about abortion in the USA today.

Posted by: SoMG at February 29, 2008 8:15 PM

No, actually the problem is that so few pro-choicers understand anything about abortion.
Plers know the realities.

Sandy, with all due respect (snicker) unless you are a professional, I must claim greater knowledge of abortion, particularly abortion in the USA, than you can claim.

Whether or not I know more about it than Jill Stanek is open for debate, because Jill's posted falsehoods may be deliberate lies rather than due to ignorance.

For example, Jill posts links to sites that claim abortion causes breast cancer, which I bet she knows is false.

SoMG doesn't even know the most basic thing about abortion - that it ends a human life. I think it therefore goes without saying that most of the pro-lifers on here know more about abortion than he does. Sure, he's well versed in lies, damned lies, and statistics, but when it comes to factual knowledge, he has a problem.

Anyway, here's an amusing column about Obama:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/purcell/s_553926.html

John L, you wrote: "SoMG doesn't even know the most basic thing about abortion - that it ends a human life. "

Yes, I do know that. (I agree that abortion ends a human life, but I think women should have the right to have abortions anyway.)

Abortion, as I have remarked before, is justifiable homicide.

SoMG, I stand corrected. Too bad the rest of the pro-aborts aren't honest enough to admit that they support the killing of innocent human beings.

I would love to see Barack Obama on national television arguing that an unborn child is a living human being who is an unjust aggressor. This unjust aggressor is a threat to the woman, and therefore she can kill him in an act of self defense. I would absolutely love to see that! Alas, Obama's not honest enough to say it.

John L, the unborn are not innocent, at least not in the literal sense of the word.

The prefix "in" means "not", as in "inadequate" which means not adequate.

The root "nocent" means harmful (as in the word "noxious".

The word "innocent" therefore means "not harmful". But the unborn cause labor and delivery, which IS harmful. Therefore the unborn ARE harmful, hence NOT innocent.

Holy cow. SoMG, have you ever heard of the expression, give someone enough rope and he'll hang himself?

Yeah.

Actually, Wing Nuts Daily held a "Values Voters" debate last September. It was broadcast on some "Angel Network" I don't get, and NONE of the top-tier candidates bothered to show up.

Now there's supposed to be another "Values Voters" debate on March 3rd, but so far I can't find out where it's being broadcast and if McCain is even going to show up.

Keep in mind KANSAS Republicans have been told to back off the abortion issue by their state leaders:
Republicans back off abortion issue
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December 2, 2007

It would seem an ideal time for Kansas politicians opposed to abortion to push that agenda, hard. The state’s two biggest clinics are under criminal indictment, and two grand juries will convene soon to consider additional charges.

But as the political season revs up, the executive director of the Kansas Republican Party has issued a stern warning to his fellow conservatives: Abortion is not a winning issue.

“This is not something that the Kansas GOP is going to go out and lead on,” Christian Morgan said.

Morgan said that he and his party remain firmly opposed to abortion. Most Republican voters in Kansas feel the same, he said. But Morgan also believes that those voters are fed up with years of fruitless political and legal maneuvering aimed at driving abortion clinics out of business.

They would much prefer to see an all-out focus on curbing illegal immigration or cutting taxes.

In an e-mail rebuffing an antiabortion activist who asked for more GOP support, Morgan explained: “My job is to win elections. ... Your agenda does not fit my agenda.”

The hands-off stance frustrates Cheryl Sullenger, a leader of the antiabortion group Operation Rescue. “They’re turning their back on the grass roots,” she said. “All you’re going to see from this is defeat.”

Abortion dominated the political debate in Kansas last year, especially the race for attorney general.

The incumbent, Republican Phill Kline, was hailed as a hero by abortion foes for issuing a subpoena for patient medical records in an attempt to build a criminal case against abortion clinics.

He was defeated soundly by Democrat Paul Morrison, who vowed to back off the clinic prosecutions.

This election cycle, “there’s a sense of ‘let’s move on,’” said Alesha Doan, a political scientist at the Kansas University.

Candidates risk a backlash, Doan said, if they’re too closely associated with the efforts to pin criminal charges on abortion doctors. “At some point, a line is crossed, and you’re no longer just expressing your opinion and trying to do God’s work. Now you’re harassing, and voters say, ‘We don’t want to be part of that,’” Doan said.

While the political rhetoric might be muted, the legal battle is intensifying.

Morrison declined to pursue the most serious charges Kline had laid out against abortion doctor George Tiller of Wichita.

But Morrison did file 19 misdemeanor counts against Tiller, alleging that he failed to get an independent second opinion before aborting viable fetuses.

Tiller, who denies wrongdoing, is one of just a few physicians in the country to take late-term patients; he has reported aborting more than 2,600 viable fetuses in the past decade. His trial is set for March 31.

Meanwhile, Kline — newly appointed district attorney of a suburban county — has pursued a criminal case against a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic near Kansas City.

On the stump in Kansas, Republican candidates largely follow Morgan’s advice to steer clear of an issue that has the potential to alienate as many voters as it inspires.

“Right now it’s halftime at the 2008 election, and what we’ve been doing isn’t working,” Morgan said. “It’s time to change it up a bit.”

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It's ellection time…
Run away from the idiot now.
You can embrace him again llater.
2 December 2007 at 9:44 a.m.

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The GOP running way from their beliefs? NO!
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No Valkyrie… what's happening is some very sensible, logical moderates have chosen to distance themselves from violent extremists, like those in Operation Rescue.

It's a very shrewd move. I'm sure that when the extremists calm themselves down, and purge themselves of the more violent members, like Cheryl Sullenger… they'll be welcomed back into the “Big Tent.”

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Far-left, secular-progressive idealogues, let your light shine brightly!! This is your day; your time. Rejoice for all the unborn!
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Ag, you are correct.
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Wait, I thought that abortion was a moral issue, not a PR one—? What about the bayyy-beeees????
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There will be no backing off by pro-life Republicans in their attempts to shut down criminal abortion mills and prosecute criminal abortionist quacks. Saving babies and protecting desperate mothers from deception, abuse, and victimization is more important than winning elections. Pro-lifers don't compromise on their principles.
Tiller and the other criminal abortionist quacks are going to prison. Got it, Mr. Morgan?
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This is an amazing article. Amazing in that it was written as a Wichita Eagle Editorial October 31, 2007.
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Wichita Eagle Commentary, Oct 31, 2007

State GOP moving away from far right
The Kansas Republican Party is sending a strong message to far-right abortion activists, including Johnson County District Attorney Phill Kline: Don't expect us to carry your flag any longer. It's part of a conscious effort to reach out to GOP moderates and independents, a smart move that could boost the party's chances in 2008 elections.
Kansas GOP executive director Christian Morgan received an e-mail last week from Cheryl Sullenger, an anti-abortion activist with Operation Rescue. She criticized state party officials for not getting involved in Kline's legal crusade against Planned Parenthood, saying they “need to be more relevant.”
Morgan's e-mail response is significant and signals a party shift to the center: “My job is to win elections and help all Republicans in Kansas. Your agenda does not fit my agenda.”

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Morgan wrote that two hot congressional campaigns next year, against incumbent Democrats Dennis Moore and Nancy Boyda, “can really be won if run the correct way — and getting out front on this (abortion) issue is not the way to win it.”
Morgan added: “Like it or not, the Republican Party is made up of many different 'kinds' of Republican — and some of our great Republicans in the party right now do not share your views.”
In short, he wants a bigger tent.
In a phone interview with The Eagle editorial board, Morgan stressed that he and other party leaders are pro-life, and fighting abortion would remain an important part of the Kansas party's platform. But he said that Kline's controversial appointment to the Johnson County district attorney office “has hurt the party,” at least in Johnson County, by dividing Republican voters.
As for making abortion a centerpiece issue, “We've already lost the argument — that happened in the 2006 attorney general race,” he said of Kline's crushing defeat by Paul Morrison. The voters, he said, sent a message that they didn't want that kind of heavy-handed, narrow focus on abortion.
“I'm trying to change the image of the Kansas Republican Party and keep it from getting bogged down in one or two issues,” he said.
For her part, Sullenger told the editorial board that Morgan and other state party officials are making a big mistake. “Social issues are what motivates the grass roots” of the party, she argued. As for attracting moderates back to the party: “Good riddance to them,” she said. “Those people were pulling the party down anyway.”
But as Morgan listens to Republicans now, he said he's hearing concerns about government fiscal discipline and spending, immigration enforcement and other core GOP economic and law-and-order issues.
People want to elect representatives, he said, “who will get things done” and take a pragmatic approach to issues. By distancing the Kansas GOP from some of the extreme-right elements in the party, Morgan hopes to position the party to win the center.
That's where most elections are won.

Sorry-
Didn't mean to tack on all the extra commentary.

John L, you only need to watch one bad labor & delivery, or one cesarian section, to see how harmful (equals not "innocent") the unborn can be. Why do you think high-risk obstetrics is such a demanding specialty to train for and practice?

Ever birthed a baby from your boddy SOMG?

Good grief, Laura, don't you know how to post a link? It's not that complicated. All of that stupid crap could have been condensed into this:

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/dec/02/republicans_back_abortion_issue/

John L, you only need to watch one bad labor & delivery, or one cesarian section, to see how harmful (equals not "innocent") the unborn can be. Why do you think high-risk obstetrics is such a demanding specialty to train for and practice?

Posted by: SoMG at February 29, 2008 9:46 PM

totally ridiculous comment Smog. Just exactly who are you? Where do you live? Where exactly do you work?

"John L, the unborn are not innocent, at least not in the literal sense of the word."

SoMG, thats has to be the QoTD...good one.

SoMG, you have enough rope already. Seriously.

Good grief, Laura, don't you know how to post a link? It's not that complicated. All of that stupid crap could have been condensed into this:
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Gee, maybe a smart guy like you could tell me why none of the viable Republican candidates will show up at a "values voters" debate, and why nobody seems interested in broadcasting it.

John L,

I think SoMG has a couple abortions under his belt...or was an abortionists assistant...SoMG?

FF, what was the number one issue that concerned voters from the 2004 exit poll?

Moral values.

I don't deny that labor & delivery can be emotionally rewarding, but you cannot deny that it causes harm to the mother. Go watch a woman go through any but the easiest birth, or watch a woman recover from a c-section, or talk to a woman with an intestinal-vaginal fistula (feces coming out your vagina all the time, yuk!) and tell me her fetus hasn't harmed her.

In the case of a wanted pregnancy, the mother willingly undergoes that harm as a sacrifice for her baby. But she still suffers harm in a varying degree.

If you accept the literal definition of innocent as meaning "not harmful" (rather than "not guilty", which is its common or everyday use) how can you avoid the conclusion that the unborn are, literally, not innocent? You can't.

Sandy you are asking personal questions, but I will tell you this much: I participated in the emergence of non-surgical abortion technology (using methotrexate rather than RU-486) in the USA, so I take a little bit of personal credit for every one that is done.

SoMG,
Your just rewards will likely be death to your spirit.

I fear no mumbo, nor jumbo.

..and you know why, right? It's because the liberal, left-leaning MSM is tight-lipped with anything remotely related to the abortion issue...

Thank God for blogs like this and the pro-life grassroots movement...

................and the John Birch Society for making conspiracy theories a way of life for so many of us paranoids.

I fear no mumbo, nor jumbo.

Posted by: SoMG at March 1, 2008 12:03 AM
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Fear the dumbos.

Laura, I'm talking about Bob Casey Sr, not Bob Casey Jr. That's why I put that "Sr" after his name. Bob Casey Sr was not allowed to speak at the Democratic National Convention. Why? Because he was going to say something about being pro-life. But you say that this issue is not important. Would Casey Sr have been refused by the Dems if he were going to say something about capitalism, which is also in opposition to liberal ideology? Somehow I doubt it.

How about the Supreme Court? The number one question asked about any Supreme Court nominee is, "Do they support Roe v. Wade?" Certainly that's because abortion is such a non-issue, right?

TexasRed, US bombs dropped in Iraq and Afghanistan aren't targeting babies and old people (except for old terrorists). The politicians you support target preborn babies and disabled people for execution. So yes, I'll support the politicians who accidentally kill some babies and old people over the politicians who intentionally kill many babies and old people any day.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at February 29, 2008 5:58 PM

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It is no accident that babies, pregnant women, old folks...... heck all manner of innocents/non combatants are killed by military bombings. It's called collateral damage by the military. A dehumanizing way to describe indiscriminate murder. The military is rife with such dehumanizing verbiage.
Oh never mind that! You are much more likely to find yourself mistaken for an embryo or human vegetable and it makes you quake at the thought of what the world would suffer for the loss of you.

Laura, I didn't watch the value voters debate either. To me it is a waste of time. What need is there for a debate? There are only two yes or no questions that need to be answered: (1) Are you pro-life?, and (2) Will you nominate originalist judges? That's all we need to know. In my opinion it's ridiculous to have a several hour debate on the subject.

All but one of the Republican presidential candidates were pro-life, and every single one of them promised to nominate originalist judges. How do you think a Republican candidate would have done if he was neither pro-life nor in support of judicial originalism? Not too well, and that's because this is an important issue.

Sally, yes, I know that leftists hate the American military, which is solely responsible for you having any rights whatsoever. You don't need to remind me. I know that you take the unfortunate realities of war and use them as weapons to condemn our heroic military men and women as ruthless murderers.

And, by the way, I'm not particularly worried about what happens to me. See, unlike pro-aborts, I am not selfish. My motivation in defending the unborn and the disabled is to give a voice to the voiceless, and to protect those who are unable to protect themselves. I believe in the philosophy that the strong have an obligation to protect the weak, rather than in the pro-abort mentality that the strong have the right to prey upon the weak.

I don't know about Laura, but I troll here because I enjoy feeling superior. So few right-to-lifers know anything about abortion in the USA today.

Posted by: SoMG at February 29, 2008 8:15 PM------------------- OMG, Slumped on floor laughing. JUST when do you begin to LOOK superior. Can't stop laughing.

SoMG says:
I fear no mumbo, nor jumbo.

Posted by: SoMG at March 1, 2008 12:03 AM
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SoMG, Do you think spirits are mumbo jumbo? Then why do you use "spirit of martin gardner" for your moniker?

SoMG says:
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I fear no mumbo, nor jumbo.

Posted by: SoMG at March 1, 2008 12:03 AM
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SoMG,
Do you think spirits are mumbo jumbo? Then why do you use "spirit of martin gardner" for your moniker?

Somg, do you fear Dumbo? lol!

Sally, yes, I know that leftists hate the American military, which is solely responsible for you having any rights whatsoever. You don't need to remind me. I know that you take the unfortunate realities of war and use them as weapons to condemn our heroic military men and women as ruthless murderers.

GO JOHN!!!

GOOOOO JOHN!

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OMG just realized one of the books on my shelf, given to me a long time ago for christmas from some friends is "The Whys of a Philosophical Scrivener." martin gardner right?

Anyone read that shiz? Any good?

No PIP, all I know about him is that SOMG aspires to him as a kindred spirit.

Sally, yes, I know that leftists hate the American military, which is solely responsible for you having any rights whatsoever. You don't need to remind me. I know that you take the unfortunate realities of war and use them as weapons to condemn our heroic military men and women as ruthless murderers.

GO JOHN!!!

Posted by: Bethany at March 1, 2008 6:59 PM
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My father was a liberal democrat. He earned 4 bronze stars in WWII. He survived the Battle of the Bulge and stuck around to help liberate concentration camps. My gr great grandparents were civilians at the Battle of Antietam. I spent 6 years as a military wife. War is very very ugly. I hate war and have issues with violence within military communities. Funny how you get all onion eyed over embryos yet completely disregard institutions that exist for the sole purpose of killing.

Sally, yes, I know that leftists hate the American military, which is solely responsible for you having any rights whatsoever. You don't need to remind me. I know that you take the unfortunate realities of war and use them as weapons to condemn our heroic military men and women as ruthless murderers.
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Actually John, I have rights because of our government. The military does not pass laws.

So SoMG,

If you really think being a "harmful" fetus is reason enough to execute someone, why don't you go kill yourself? After all, if you hadn't been one once you wouldn't be here.

SoMG, thats has to be the QoTD...good one.

Jasper, how about some more Mariska Hargitay?