hahahaha. Oh, I'm shakin.

@ heather
*shake shake shake shake*

Why did you post this Jill? I can find better things for you to post. Really I have had some ideas for a weekend question I think would generate a lot of interest if you want to hear them.

Hmmmm..... My supply of baby dolls and ketchup is running low. Those props come in handy when I am picketing an abortion mill.

I don't even understand what he's saying.

How about a new line of fashion-forward chastity belts?

Heather: He is saying that we are a bunch of nut jobs. He is sarcastically saying that he would like to advertise on Jill's site, but that he can't imagine what a bunch of nuts like us would like to buy. How clever of him.

Carrie, thank you for the clarification. My response to him...it would take one to know one:]

@ Carrie,
Could this possibly be a fashionable chastity belt!?
http://www.fashionista.com/images/entries/fashionrox.jpg
I think not (considering the babies she just had).

Jess: Yikes! That belt looks very uncomfortable.

How about hammers so we can bash ourselves in the heads and go back to thinking like "rational pro-choicers".

I know! LOL!

Oh jeez thanks PajamaMama : P

Me thinks Drake wants attention.

Heather: You are right. We are probably just feeding his need for attention. This is too much fun though.:)

(Might want to buy some of these himself):

Rabies shots?

Prozac?

Free therapy?

email filters?

Adult pacifiers?

Drool bibs?

A mirror?

Dictionary (to look up hate mail)

Good Lawyers

Bio hazard bags/paper shredders (I know someone in the market for these)

Halogen bulbs (this guy needs to lighten up...)

I mean the possibilities are endless. I've been trying to get Jill to pick up advertisers for months now...

carrie, I know. What's wrong with being called a nut? I've been called worse.

hahaha...yes. we will have some fun with this piece.

Heather: Drakie should have realized that most prolifers have very thick skins.

That's a cool drawing of a wolf.

joke time.. How do you catch a unique bird?

Drake: I need salsa. I hear all the cool prolifers are smearing salsa on their baby dolls instead of ketchup.

atavistic rapine beasts? I'll take that over an abortionist anyday.

unique up on it.

HA! Salsa! I'm hungry now.

Is that a drawing of a wolf??? I thought it was Drake Stillborn...go figure!

MK: No, that's not Drake Stillborn, that is his mother.

hahahaha! Good one girls.

Lol, heather good joke : )

Oh come on Carrie please. Aren't we supposed to be pro-mother on this bored?

Carrie - I kept the plastic baby doll head someone threw at me when I was running that class at PP. Its sitting on my dresser next to my Buddha statue. I'm glad it didn't have ketchup in it though, because that would have been messy - but yeah, I'm sure an ad for:

BABY HEADS!! WHOLESALE PRICES!!! DIRECT FROM CHINA!!

would look pretty awesome on Jills site.

And you think I'm mouthy!
heh!

Dear Heather,

Thank you for honoring women by nominating your favorite female blogger as part of WVWV's celebration of Women's History Month.

Tomorrow, on Friday, March 21st at midnight, we will close off the nomination round of our Women's Voices Making History blogger contest so that we can process all of your outstanding nominations in preparation for the final voting round that will begin next week.

Do you have another outstanding female blogger that you would like to honor by nominating her for our blogger contest? Do you have a friend or family member that hasn't submitted their nomination yet?

If so, please click here to submit another nomination before we close off nominations at midnight tomorrow and please forward this email to your friends and family to remind them that they have one more day to submit their nominations.

Thank you and I look forward to releasing the names of the top ten nominated female bloggers early next week!

Sarah Johnson
Communications Director
Women's Voices. Women Vote

Jill, this was in my mailbox. I just checked it. I voted for you.

Jill, I hope you win.................. That would sure put a bee in Drake's bonnet.

And you think I'm mouthy!
heh!

Posted by: TexasRed at March 20, 2008 12:38 PM---------------- Maybe "opinionated" is a better way. I do like the more subdued side of you though;]

*oops* should say a better way to put it* Above post.

And you think I'm mouthy!
heh!

Posted by: TexasRed at March 20, 2008 12:38 PM---------------- Maybe "opinionated" is a better way. I do like the more subdued side of you though;]

Posted by: heather at March 20, 2008 1:12 PM
**********************
Im 57 and female
Im red headed
Im Scot, Irish, Welsh and a touch of Comanche
Im a Scorpio and a Tiger
My birthday is National Mule Appreciation Day
Yes, Im opinionated and stubborn. It goes with the territory.
Subdued is in the eye of the beholder.

I dont think thats a wolf - looks more like a werewolf ... ("werewolf?" "there wolf ... there castle ....")

Lol...awww...that was funny.

Some people really do have too much time on their hands.

Maybe it was FF reincarnated.

"Carrie - I kept the plastic baby doll head someone threw at me when I was running that class at PP."

Oh but Amanda don't you know, all pro-lifers are rational, calm, open people : P

He cannot be serious.

He sells surplus Dutch euthanasia kits straight from Amsterdam or abort mechanism - he's just a jealous lib because he can't sell any here and those amazing new fangled 3d sonogram machines are illuminating everything and putting his ilk out of business.

He's just a cry baby.

He could probably advertise a Dr. Kevorkian do-it-youself kit.

OOOOH you know what? I actually do need some torches. We have a little beach in front of our house on the pond and I wanted to set up torches around it to give it a nice party atmosphere. Like maybe the torches with bug repelent?

Heather, thanks!

Jess, shoot with weekend question suggestions.

Jill, you're welcome. Jess, can't wait to hear your ideas.

It won't post my comment :.(

Ok Jill: Maybe we could have a question about the Day of Silence and violence against homosexual children and teens.

I know we've disscused this before but I think it would be interesting to post a question about people who claim to live a happy child-free lifestyle. Why do people on this site choose to have or not have children? Also is it neccesary to have children to leave a legacy or to be fulfilled? I think we would get a lot of interesting feedback.

I had to delete the links in my comment to post it. The screen kept showing, "Error, can't find Header"

Jess, regarding your "Day of Silence" idea: I think that's a great topic.

Personally I think it's stupid. The teachers are starting to do it in my school district and I think it's like a free day for them. I don't like the kids doing it either. There is a time and a place for it and school is neither the time nor the place. Go hold a protest somewhere and I'm behind you 100%.

BUT if a school does allow it, things should go both ways. A girl at one of the HS in a neighboring district was "disciplined" for wearing a T-shirt on the "Silence" day that said "Be happy, not gay." If one side gets to protest so should the other.

You can't tell someone just to not be gay. it's not a choice, trust me if it was do you think so many people would kill themselves because they were gay? What if her shirt said "Be smart, not black" or be "Be cool, not white."

You can't tell someone just to not be gay. it's not a choice, trust me if it was do you think so many people would kill themselves because they were gay? What if her shirt said "Be smart, not black" or be "Be cool, not white." Or maybe "Be healthy, not fat."

This is a day to protest bullying.

Posted by: TexasRed at March 20, 2008 2:51 PM
I dont think thats a wolf - looks more like a werewolf ... ("werewolf?" "there wolf ... there castle ....")

++++++++++++
"Young Frankenstein"...one of the funniest movies of all time.
++++ "Ovaltine?...NOTHING...thank you"

Jess, thanks for the suggestions. Good ideas. The homosexual question though, not here. Got any ideas for poll questions? Anyone, anyone?

@Jill, here is a poll question: How many cups of sugar does it take to get to the moon?

I kid, I kid.

How about: Do you think it's possible for atheists to be truly pro-life? I've heard many Christians say that atheists cannot possibly be truly pro-life because there is no God in their opinion to bestow value/sacredness upon humans so their opinions are completely subjective and therefore false. Bad logic I know, but I *have* heard that before.

Or: Some pro-lifers allow abortions in the event the mother's life is at risk, what constitutes the mother's life is at risk? Is it if she has a potentially fatal disease like cancer and she needs treatment ASAP and there is no way to prematurely deliver (though yes, I know there are cases in which cancer treatment has been done while the woman was pregnant and the baby survived with little to no complications...speaking generally), or would it be something like severe mental illness, by staying pregnant, the woman has to stop taking her anti-psychotics or anti-depressants and may be on the verge of suicide, would that constitute "life at risk"?

It takes TWELVE cups of sugar to get to the moon. Ready Set Chug!!!!

Oh and Jill I was the 3,000 commentor on the other topic! If there is going to be a prize can I get some pro-life literature? Like I think you gave Bobby one of your books.

Jill: I would like to know how many people view women as the other victim in an abortion.

Great questions, thanks.

Jess, I posted you as the 3,000th commenter on the never-ending weekend question. Congrats! Yes, you can have a book or a t-shirt. Email me if you haven't.

Jess, you want a pro life book?? Way to go!!!

Carrie, great question. Me too. Also, PJ mom mentioned something about men, abortion and discrimination. Face it. Not all men are heartless ogres who pressure women to abort. I know lots of men who would love to be fathers. Unfortunatly, they had no choice, and their girlfriends/wives had abortions.

I say send Jess all of the prolife literature she can handle!! :) Oh, and a torch and a pitchfork too of course.

Jess, congrats on your win. Jill, what's on the T-shirt? just curious.

Carla, lol!

"Carrie - I kept the plastic baby doll head someone threw at me when I was running that class at PP."

Oh but Amanda don't you know, all pro-lifers are rational, calm, open people : P

Amanda, someone actually ripped the head off of a baby doll and threw it at you? Unbelievable!

Has it occurred to you that you are defending people that rip the heads off of living children.
Now, that's the stuff of nightmares and you are one of the monsters.

Posted by: PajamaMama at March 20, 2008 11:20 AM
How about hammers so we can bash ourselves in the heads and go back to thinking like "rational pro-choicers".

Posted by: Jess at March 20, 2008 11:21 AM
Oh jeez thanks PajamaMama : P

+++++

Anyime, Jess! As a fairly recent convert from "pro-choice" to pro-life, the difference is, I've found, marked.

PJ mom, when you were PC, were you an angry person? Did pro lifers offend you? I used to be PC, but I'd never had an abortion. That's why I was wondering.

Correction: I was always morally oppossed to abortion, but I used to think that an abortion was better than a woman having an unwanted child.

Gee, I guess that really is still PC.

Come on now Ken, if you're going to resort to the childish banter and name calling ( a la our friend Drake Stillborn), couldn't you at least try to come up with something witty and original?

Posted by: heather at March 21, 2008 9:12 AM

PJ mom, when you were PC, were you an angry person? Did pro lifers offend you? I used to be PC, but I'd never had an abortion. That's why I was wondering.

+++++++++++

No, I was not the "angry PCer" type. I was more of the politically correct variety who just basically avoided any discussion of the issue or any information that would possibly convince me otherwise. I didn't want to talk about it. Period.

PJ mama, got it. Those are the types of PCers I have dealt with. They don't get angry, but they still maintain that their "choice" was a good one.

It's kind of like talking to a wall, no?

My mom is still like that. She never had an abortion, but when we get into discussions and I start to make inescapably valid points and ask her questions that make her question her deeply held pro-choice beliefs, she simply cuts off the discussion and insists on changing the subject. Can't blame her, really. I did it for many years. She's just not there yet. Plus, you don't really want to let it get too ugly when it's family.

.....or friends. Words can wound.

yes, heather. thanks for saying that because I should have also said that no matter WHO I'm discussing abortion with, I always "try" to keep in mind two things when choosing my words;
1. I try to remember that the person to whom I am speaking is a human being, and most likely truly believes what they are saying to be true, and most likely has no malicious reasons for their beliefs. They are simply mis-informed.
2. I try to keep in mind that I am not privy to the person's history with abortion. A woman to whom I am speaking may have had an abortion, but will be very unlikely to reveal that to me. Certain words and attitudes can cut like knives to a post-abortive mother. Not that I feel that I have to lie or omit crucial information, but I view her in that context and choose my words and tone carefully so as not to put her on the defensive straight away. Same for men.

However, it's difficult to do this on the internet because you can't see the person's face. As we know with abortion, not having to see a person's pain makes it much easier to hurt them. The internet is a great thing for free speech but it also removes all social graces that have their place, too.

yeah ya gotta keep ur cool

Is this guy's name really Stillborn? If it is, it's appropriate.

My suggestion is knee pads for all the praying we're doing for guys like him.

Heh - Tony, do you really think that's his real name?

Here you go - the real thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJF6xT2Y9gU

That guy sounds like Ozzy.

Heather - coincidence - Ozzy helped out on it.

Wow! Cool news!Sounds a little weird, but interesting anyway. what do you guys think about it?

Wow! Cool news!Sounds a little weird, but interesting anyway. what do you guys think about it?

Indeed,it is true, it's always true. Comments ain't even necessary.