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April 16, 2008
McCain at Villanova: MSM hyperventilates about the life issue

mccain villan3.jpgYesterday John McCain took Q&A at Villanova University, during a Hardball with Chris Matthews taping. VU is PA's oldest and largest Catholic university, so it's probably no great news that students applauded when McCain said, "respect and cherishing of the right of the unborn is one of the fundamental principles of my party," although it sure was nice.

Interesting was the exchange between MSNBC's Dan Abrams and Matthews afterward. They drew from this - and considered it big news, almost astounding - that McCain unequivocably will not choose a pro-abort running mate...

Matthews: Would you put a person on the ticket with you, like the former governor of this state, who is very popular, Tom Ridge, even though he may disagree -- even though he may disagree with you on the issue of Roe v. Wade and abortion rights? Would you put somebody on the ticket like that? On that one issue, would that stop him?

McCain: I don't know if it would stop him but it would be difficult....

Matthews: Why that one issue? Why is it that one litmus test issue?

McCain: I'm not saying that would be necessarily, but I am saying that it's basically the respect and cherishing of the right of the unborn is one of the fundamental principles of my party... [huge applause] and it's a - a deeply held, deeply held belief of mine...

I don't take a firm "no" on the question from that exchange, but watch Matthews go ga-ga.

Also note Matthews' admission (at about 3:30) that today's young people are more pro-life than 20 years ago, although in his mind it could only be because they don't know how awful life was for women before the right to abort their babies.

Matthews didn't get that he was speaking of these kids' missing sibs and friends, that they are abortion survivors.

I almost want to mail Abrams and Matthews paper bags, so the next time they cover McCain on the life issue they don't hyperventilate...


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I love how Chris Matthews tries to dismiss the increase of the pro-life movement in the younger generation as simply being "ignorance".

This was a great video. I loved every second of it.

Posted by: Bethany at April 16, 2008 3:37 PM



What is more interesting is how recently, and reluctantly, McCain got dragged kicking and screaming, into the "pro-life" camp.

His new-found "religion" is quite amusing to those familiar with his record.

Posted by: anonymous at April 16, 2008 3:38 PM



Anon, what exactly is amusing about McCain's record? Explain.

Posted by: Jill Stanek at April 16, 2008 3:56 PM



Come on, all the politicians know you have to be of Christian faith to get elected. It's practically the only requirement we have of our presidents.

Posted by: Edyt at April 16, 2008 4:13 PM



Matthews didn't get that he was speaking of these kids' missing sibs and friends, that they are abortion survivors.

Your definition of "survivor" is interesting. I've never had an abortion, and my mother never had nor wanted an abortion, but because I'm in my twenties, you would call me an "abortion survivor."

And I suppose you would call me an "HIV survivor" because I've never contracted HIV, and a "rape survivor" because I've never been raped, and a "war survivor" because I've never been to war, right?

Posted by: reality at April 16, 2008 4:53 PM



Jill,

Mc Cain's flip-flop on Roe v. Wade between the 2000 and 2008 campaigns is well-documented, including the article in today's New York Times election guide.

Posted by: anonymous at April 16, 2008 4:59 PM



anon --

Not to mention, McCain almost became a Democrat in 2001.

Posted by: reality at April 16, 2008 5:02 PM



No, anon, I don't know that it's well documented. Please document. And a NYT election guide is not documentation.

Posted by: Jill Stanek at April 16, 2008 5:17 PM



Well, one thing I think we all can agree on is that Chris Matthews is a babbling fool.

He may have been an intelligent commentator at one time (I certainly don't remember it ever happening, but that doesn't mean it didn't), but I think he must have suffered from a series of undiagnosed strokes at some point, and has been getting stupider and more irrelevant by the day.

He and Tim Russert need to be retired, ASAP.

Posted by: Hieronymous at April 16, 2008 5:22 PM



Jill,

Anyone familiar with your work knows that you believe whatever you choose to believe, without regard to facts or evidence. Your beliefs cannot be changed, so there is no point in arguing.

Others may wish to research McCain's change in position on abortion and other issues between 2000 and 2008. That material is readily available to anyone willing to spend a few minutes.

Posted by: anonymous at April 16, 2008 5:32 PM



OFF-TOPIC but, Jill,

I just read that the Supreme Court has ruled 7-2 that lethal injection is not cruel and unusual punishment.

http://tinyurl.com/5pfsg7

Only the Episcopal David Souter and Jewish Ruth Ginsberg had the courage to stand up for the culture of life.

Can I expect you to implore the Pope to protect the Body of Christ from the the blood-stained hands of these so-called Catholic justices (Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Kennedy and Scalia)?

Posted by: reality at April 16, 2008 5:45 PM



Jill's not Catholic, reality.

Posted by: Bethany at April 16, 2008 6:06 PM



And yet, she made two posts about the Pope's US visit, one of which condemns Catholic legislators for not forcing church law on free Americans.

Posted by: reality at April 16, 2008 6:25 PM



...So it doesn't really matter if Jill is Catholic or not. She clearly believes that Catholic lawmakers should legislate according to Catholic law.

Posted by: reality at April 16, 2008 6:31 PM



Reality, I believe the Bible condones the death penalty, so I believe the Supremes ruled justly.

Anon, no it doesn't work like that. I back up what I say. It is your responsibility to support your contentions. If you can't or don't feel up to it, then stop making them.

Posted by: Jill Stanek at April 16, 2008 6:38 PM



"I believe the Bible condones the death penalty"

Jill, I'm still undecided on this. What passages do you have in mind?

Posted by: Bobby Bambino at April 16, 2008 7:22 PM



Chris Matthews-> elitist who looks down on people

Posted by: jasper at April 16, 2008 7:30 PM



"pro-choice" feminist blog jokes about eating little babies:

http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/04/delicious.html

sickos

Posted by: jasper at April 16, 2008 7:39 PM



Hieronymous - have to laugh - I've heard "conservatives" complain about Tim Russert as being too liberal and "liberals" complaining about him being too conservative.

Posted by: Doug at April 16, 2008 9:49 PM



Jasper: Chris Matthews-> elitist who looks down on people

Steve, glad to hear that you would never do that...

Uck uck uck uck uck. (Popeye laugh.)

Posted by: Doug at April 16, 2008 9:54 PM



Doug - heh, actually, I have neither complaint about Tim Russert. I don't think he's either a liberal or a conservative. I think he's a lazy excuse for a journalist who also happens to be an idiot, although I'm not sure which problem came first...

Posted by: Hieronymous at April 16, 2008 10:11 PM



"Steve, glad to hear that you would never do that..."

Well, I try not too...

MSNBC is really DNCTV.

Posted by: jasper at April 16, 2008 10:30 PM



"MSNBC is really DNCTV."

Clever Jasper, clever.

And I mean that sincerely. :)

Posted by: Rae at April 16, 2008 10:33 PM



This election, and all subsequent elections, will be decided by a whole host of issues not including the 'pro-life/pro-choice' issue.

Start researching the real and pressing problems that humanity is facing for which elected officials may have a chance at making better.

You single-issue dead-enders have had your 15 minutes of fame, and the World has moved on.

Ron

Posted by: Ron MCaffee at April 16, 2008 11:22 PM



"I believe the Bible condones the death penalty"

Jill, I'm still undecided on this. What passages do you have in mind?
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at April 16, 2008 7:22 PM

Thou shalt not kill


Posted by: truthseeker at April 17, 2008 12:06 AM



...So it doesn't really matter if Jill is Catholic or not. She clearly believes that Catholic lawmakers should legislate according to Catholic law.
Posted by: reality at April 16, 2008 6:31 PM

I am thankful that the Pope and the catholic "Church" consitently and by doctrine stand against killing and in support of life in all instances. And the "lawmakers" you are referring to were not deciding the issue of wether or not the death penaly is constitutional, they were deciding wether the accused could appeal his sentence as cruel and unusual punishment because he knew of a "better" way. Those are distinctively different issues.

Posted by: truthseeker at April 17, 2008 12:16 AM



Start researching the real and pressing problems that humanity is facing for which elected officials may have a chance at making better.
Posted by: Ron MCaffee at April 16, 2008 11:22 PM

Ron,
Abortion is the single most pressing problem that humanity is facing for which elected officials have a chance at making better.

A nation that kills it's own children is a nation
without hope.

Posted by: truthseeker at April 17, 2008 12:22 AM



I know John McCain.

He is 100% pro-life.

If he wasn't I be the FIRST one to diss him.

Posted by: HisMan at April 17, 2008 12:26 AM



Bobby:

Read the book of Roamsns.

Posted by: HisMan at April 17, 2008 12:27 AM



HisMan,
What part of Romans in particular do you believe to condone the death penalty?

Posted by: truthseeker at April 17, 2008 12:49 AM



"a time to kill" (Eccles. 3:3).

Posted by: ts at April 17, 2008 12:54 AM



does not bear the sword in vain" but is "God's servant for your good" (Rom. 13:4).

Posted by: ts at April 17, 2008 12:55 AM



Can anyone show me where in the Bible "Jesus" condoned a person killing another person?

Posted by: truthseeker at April 17, 2008 1:02 AM



Can anybody show me where in the New Testament a person killing another person is condoned?

Posted by: truthseeker at April 17, 2008 1:21 AM



Jesus cried out and said,
“Whoever believes in me believes not only in me
but also in the one who sent me,
and whoever sees me sees the one who sent me.
I came into the world as light,
so that everyone who believes in me might not remain in darkness.
And if anyone hears my words and does not observe them, I do not condemn him,
for I did not come to condemn the world but to save the world.
Whoever rejects me and does not accept my words
has something to judge him: the word that I spoke, it will condemn him on the last day,
because I did not speak on my own,
but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and speak. And I know that his commandment is eternal life. So what I say, I say as the Father told me.”

John 12: 44-50

Posted by: Anonymous at April 17, 2008 1:27 AM



truthseeker: I am thankful that the Pope and the catholic "Church" consitently and by doctrine stand against killing and in support of life in all instances. And the "lawmakers" you are referring to were not deciding the issue of wether or not the death penaly is constitutional, they were deciding wether the accused could appeal his sentence as cruel and unusual punishment because he knew of a "better" way. Those are distinctively different issues.

Thank you truthseeker!

Posted by: Janet at April 17, 2008 1:57 AM



Hello Janet

Posted by: truthseeker at April 17, 2008 2:12 AM



Bobby:

Read the book of Romans.

Posted by: HisMan at April 17, 2008 9:40 AM



HisMan,
Do you think Roman's condones one person killing another person?

Posted by: truthseeker at April 17, 2008 11:39 PM






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