awesome...
good work to the pastors, Judy, and all who were involved!

This is great news for the African-American community and the pro-life movement in general.

The more people of all races know about abortion, the better it will be for all of us, especially those waiting to be born.

Perhaps those who have been taken advantage of by liberals will now begin to realize what's really going on.

Liberals love abortion. Abortion kills a biased percentage of African-American. If liberals love blacks so much and care about them, where the outrage? There is none is there?

Yes, African-American pastors and ALL African American Christians should be outraged at this selective genocide whose roots are one Ms. Margaret Sanger. The more blacks learn about this person and her connection/relationship to abortion/eugenics, the KKK, and Black Americans, the more they will begin to understand the mindset and evil of liberalism and the Democrats that so viciously support it.

Since white Christians have failed to stop abortion, perhaps God will use a minority to overcome the majority. I call on my black Christian brothers and sisters in Christ to take this mantle and defeat this evil called abortion. If any community can do it, the black community can. I am with you.

HisMan 5;20: Since white Christians have failed to stop abortion, perhaps God will use a minority to overcome the majority. I call on my black Christian brothers and sisters in Christ to take this mantle and defeat this evil called abortion. If any community can do it, the black community can. I am with you.

Amen!

I'm outraged by the idea that black women are pressured to have abortions. I'm not outraged by the idea that a black woman chooses to have one.

Edyt:

You are not outraged that abortion is targeted towards blacks as a means of population control?

You're a typical, liberal, atheist, confused, inconsistent, pro-abort.

You should be outraged that the lies that Democrats have been telling African-Americans for the last 50 years..."just vote for us and we'll give you that and this", rather than telling them that they can make it on their own without the government, forces young Black-American mothers into situations so as to feel so desparate that they have to kill their own children.

Don't tell me that most Black women want to abort their babies. They're not like white cracker women like you that would kill an innocent baby in the womb out of convenience.

HisMan,
Excellent points as always. You are so insightful.

Edyt,
Have you heard of Star Parker?? May want to check her out.

Sandy, yes I have.

HisMan, there are a lot of changes that need to go on in our society (*coughracismcough*) that needs to change. Our welfare system needs to be reformed. We also need to create and promote opportunities for impoverished neighborhoods (yes, that includes a lot of black and Latino communities) so that they have the same opportunities a rich white kid in the suburb has. We need better educators and teachers need higher pay and more incentive to work in "rough" neighborhoods. We need more funding for anti-violence programs like CeaseFire that have shown to decrease gang violence. We need to lower college tuition rates and provide more government aid and scholarships.

But I think even once you have all that, black women will choose to have abortions for all the same reasons as rich white women. Perhaps not as many as we have now, but there will still be women who simply will not want to give birth to the child.

HisMan 7:58PM

What else would you expect from a political party that founded the KKK as its terrorist arm in the late 19th century?
Bull Connor, notorious for turning fire hoses and attack dog on black civil rights demonstrators, was a Democrat.
It no thanks to Democrats that black Americans can even vote. Democrats filibustered Civil and Voting Rights legislation in the mid 1960s and these bills were only passed thanks to Republicans.
One of these filibustering Democrats, the late J.Wm Fulbright, received the Presidential Medal of Freedom from America's "first black president", who oddly isn't even black, Bill Clinton.
While Bill Clinton makes much of having an office in Harlem (how white of "massah" Clinton to live among the black folk) its only because the government wouldn't pay for the more expensive one he wanted in New York City.
Another one of these filibustering Democrats, former klansman and klan recruiter Robert Byrd, remains in the US Senate where he has served for years. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton honored this former nightrider at his birthday party a few years back.

Go Detroit! That's awesome!

Wait... are you guys patting HisMan on the back for a post in which he called Edyt a

"white cracker woman who would kill her baby"???

Yes... thats just SOOO intelligent and insightful.

*eyeroll*

Can we all please stop with the "you guys" generalizations and address individuals, please?

I've often wondered when the NAACP would stop referring to themselves as "Colored People" (the CP in NAACP) and replace that with "African Americans" which would change the name to the NAAAA.

Imagine how much fun we could have with that name!

Did ya hear the latest coming out of NAAAA!?!?

lol

I did not applaud HisMan's referral to Edyt as a "white cracker woman". I commented on his statement concerning Democrats and blacks.

I find it extre-e-e-mely exciting that people in the Detroit area organized in this fashion...BRAVO!!!!!!

Detroit pro-lifers, you are awesome! God bless you!

Mary,
You confuse Dixiecrats with Democrats.

Edyt:

I am literally puking at your post. It sounds all so nice and flowery, but there's one big problem, it doesn't work because the government cannot solve these problems, period. When in heaven's name will you and other faithless liberals like you realize this? We don't need more government programs, we need less. But I can see how a godless person can think that government is the solution to everything. You have merely substituted the God void in your heart for a false god of government. Really, there are no such things as atheists, just people who have misplaced their faith and don't even know it.

You see the government and more money as the solution. This is a bottomless pit. Why, because the beeauracracy, dead weight and inefficiency designed into it kills it from the get go. Someone has handed you a pile of crap a mile high and you have decided to ingest it hook, line and sinker.

What we need is to teach people about Christ who then will learn that if a man doesn't work he shall not eat and to be more concerned about others than themselves. To learn that sex is only to be engaged in a marriage setting and that homosexuality is a peversion that leads to death. People will also learn to take risks they would otherwise not take because they now trust in a God who says He will never leave or forsake them. They will shake off the shackles of dependence on the government.

Getting back to Jill's post, when Black Americans finally wake up to this subtle and hidden and unrealized vestige of racism, slavery and oppression called abortion and rise as a mighty force in this country, then and only then will things truly change for them. Right now, Black Americans, as a whole, are held captive and slaves to the lie that the goverment will help them and that they can't help themselves, a lie that the likes of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are so willing to tell. Why, because they are so filled with the lust for power that they want nothing else and will do and say anything to attain that power including the betrayal of God's principals....and they know this. Why else could someone call themselves a believer in Christ and yet justify the vicious murder of a child in the womb unless they were totally sold out to the prince of demons?

And wouldn't it be just like God to use a people that over the centuries of our American history have been abused, lied to, used, beaten, hated, and murdered, to save this country by ridding it of abortion?

I say again, my Black Christian brothers and sisters, it's time to wake up and kill this demon spirit called abortion. Them as our brother MLK said, will we all be able to say, "Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, we are free at last"......

Zeke the Freak:

You know I have a lot of black friends that would just love to squeeze your head for making a comment like that, you damn racist ignoramus. Not all colored people are African-Americans.

Amanda:

Just like a liberal...focus on the semantics and not the context. The point was that most black mothers would keep their babies if it wasn't for the oppression layed on them by whites. Further, the fact is that most typical white women have abortions so they don't have to contemplate breaking a finger nail or interrupting their career choice, so, gag me with a spoon, like I mean, like wow, like cool. Perhaps you can't fathom the difference Msssssssssssssss.

And I do not need to be defended against anything a pro-abort may say against me. Don't buy into the PC crap.

Mary:

The points you made earlier about the Democrats are true. The Clintons could care less about Black Americans. If they did, Hillary would be bowing out gracefully at this point. She crafts her own and the Democratic Party's self destruction.

Sally,

Dixiecrats were Southern Democrats. J Wm Fulbright was a Democrat as is Robert Byrd now.

HisMan,

We spend 30 times more money making bombs and guns than we do helping the needy. (This doesn't figure in the amount of money we spend actually bombing and shooting people in other countries)

I THINK some of that money can be shifted around a bit. It does NOT require raising taxes. It means changing priorities.

And you know what? I think that's what Jesus would want. He said to help the poor and needy. I don't recall there being a message about making sure you're equipped with enough ammo. Could be wrong though, since you're the expert and all.

Jesus, as described in the Bible, was quite a liberal.

"Further, the fact is that most typical white women have abortions so they don't have to contemplate breaking a finger nail "

Actually HisMan, pregnancy makes your fingernails incredibly strong, so I don't think thats actually a reason why women abort, but thats a wonderfully grand absurd and ridiculous sweeping generalization you're making. It really drives the validity of your point home.

Also...
what, may I ask, is a "typical white woman"? A "cracker" who "wants to kill her baby" as you so eloquently put it?

Please - define for all of us what a "typical white woman" looks like.

abortion and black genocide....

With all due respect, this is quite an exaggeration. These are individual women with unwanted pregnancies, and "genocide" doesn't apply at all.

Black women in the US have a substantially higher per-capita birthrate than do white women, already.

If a black woman wants to end a pregnancy, why should she care about misrepresentations, or indeed - about what other women do?

The abortion debate remains, but it's silly to think that she'll feel that "too few black babies are being born," etc.

Doug -

The birth rate is higher, but it ends up cancelling out because the infant mortality and childhood death rates are exponentially higher.

A fact that many pro lifers like to completely ignore, because it doesn't fit in with their agenda.

How can anyone possibly obsess over ONLY abortion in black populations and completely ignore the fact that the black infants born in this country have more than DOUBLE the mortality rate of whies?

Amanda, interesting point, though I question whether it totally "cancels out." I guess the math could be done from what you said.

I also think that many pro-lifers are concerned with born infants and children, as well as with the abortion issue.

Myself, I'd rather see much more focus on helping the born kids versus worrying about abortion to viability, for instance.

Mary,
Lumping Dixiecrats together with Democrats is no different that lumping Republicans together with McCarthyists and John Birchers. Pretending that political parties of today resmble those of yesteryear is innacurate.

Sally,

The Dixiecrats were a splinter group of the Democrat party who opposed what they saw as federal government oppression. They formed around the mid 20th century
Like it or not they were Democrats. Southern Democrats, not Dixiecrats, did indeed found the KKK as a method to keep the newly freed blacks in their "places".
The Democrat Party supported slavery, Republicans opposed it.
Republicans supported anti-lynching legislation
Democrats opposed it.
Jim Crow segregation laws were established under Southern Democrats, not Dixiecrats, though Dixiecrats would eventually fight to maintain segregation.
Democrat president Franklin Roosevelt appointed a klansman and klan lawyer, Democrat Senator Hugo Black, to the Supreme Court over the objections of Republican senators, and with the support of Democrat senators.
Lyndon Johnson would never have passed the Civil and Voting Rights Acts without the help of Republicans since the DEMOCRATS Fulbright, Byrd, and others were filibustering.

Joseph McCarthy was a Republican. One may or may not have supported his efforts, but cannot deny he was Republican, whatever else he may have wanted to call himself.
I can't find that John Birchers, an ultraconservative organization, are affiliated with Republicans at all.

Speaking out against the filth of abortion surgery is becoming more accepted and invited as the protesters noted in report to Jill. The apathy of ignorance lead lid is lifting; the "Got Karma?" slogan is convicting; the debate is over--it IS human! Artificial contraception is wreaking havoc on health. Promiscuity is rendering women sterile and men undesirable. Wholesome America is lost and heartfelt homesick. The whole atmosphere of this great country would change if everyone would muster up the itty-bitty courage to speak up everyday, in some way, letting the bully subhuman Pro-Aborts know WE NOW KNOW the TRUTH BEHIND THE LIE OF UNNATURAL, SUBHUMAN, ABORTION SURGERY BUSINESS and the underlying MURDER MENTALITY of Pro-Aborts of America! Hiss, America, until we can once again delight in the sound of baby coos rescued from the likes of shameless womb vampires.

Speaking out against the filth of abortion surgery is becoming more accepted and invited as the protesters noted in report to Jill. The apathy of ignorance lead lid is lifting; the "Got Karma?" slogan is convicting; the debate is over--it IS human! Artificial contraception is wreaking havoc on health. Promiscuity is rendering women sterile and men undesirable. Wholesome America is lost and heartfelt homesick. The whole atmosphere of this great country would change if everyone would muster up the itty-bitty courage to speak up everyday, in some way, letting the bully subhuman Pro-Aborts know WE NOW KNOW the TRUTH BEHIND THE LIE OF UNNATURAL, SUBHUMAN, ABORTION SURGERY BUSINESS and the underlying MURDER MENTALITY of Pro-Aborts of America! Hiss, America, until we can once again delight in the sound of baby coos rescued from the likes of shameless womb vampires.

Gera Schmidt,
You are in a beautiful area of the country! Good to hear from you!

Funny you say that, Gera, I've never heard of someone becoming sterile from having a lot of sex. You'd think our country would have a lot less people in it if that were the case!

HisMan blathered unintelligently:

"You know I have a lot of black friends that would just love to squeeze your head for making a comment like that, you damn racist ignoramus. Not all colored people are African-Americans."

Oh come on!! We all know that the NAACP is all about promoting black power and influence.

Do you see the NAACP promoting anything regarding Indians or non-Africans with dark skin?

Who is the ignoramous now HisMan??

Pretty obvious!

Funny you say that, Gera, I've never heard of someone becoming sterile from having a lot of sex. You'd think our country would have a lot less people in it if that were the case!

I think she was referring to STD's, Edyt. Nice try though.

Gonorrhea - Gonorrhea is one of the most frequently reported STD. 40% of it's victims contract PID if not treated, and it can cause sterility.
http://www.epigee.org/health/stds.html

Chlamydia—the fastest-spreading STD in the U.S.; a bacterial infection that infects up to four million men and women every year. Often no symptoms are present, especially in women. Untreated chlamydia is dangerous—it can cause sterility, Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID), and increase the chances for life-threatening tubal pregnancies.
http://www.epigee.org/health/stds.html

"Chlamydia is the most frequently reported bacterial sexually transmitted infection in the United States. More than 650,000 cases were reported in 1999, and three of every four reported cases occurred in persons under age 25. Under-reporting is substantial because most people with chlamydia are not aware of their infections and do not seek testing. An estimated 3 million Americans are infected with chlamydia each year. Chlamydia is so common in young women that, by age 30, 50% of sexually active women have evidence that they have had chlamydia at some time during their lives."
http://parentingteens.about.com/od/chlamydia/a/chlamydia2.htm

"Gonorrhea is a very common infectious disease. CDC estimates that more than 700,000 persons in the U.S. get new gonorrheal infections each year. Only about half of these infections are reported to CDC. In 2002, 351,852 cases of gonorrhea were reported to CDC. In the period from 1975 to 1997, the national gonorrhea rate declined, following the implementation of the national gonorrhea control program in the mid-1970s. After a small increase in 1998, the gonorrhea rate has decreased slightly since 1999. In 2002, the rate of reported gonorrheal infections was 125.0 per 100,000 persons."

http://parentingteens.about.com/od/gonorrhea/a/gonorrhea2.htm

Edyt:

Jesus was not into taking money from people in the form of forced taxation.

Forcing people to do what is right is not the solution.

Concern for the needy is not the job of the government.

Christ was into changing people's hearts into love action not forcing stuff down their throat.

I give plenty to the church, more than I ever pay in taxes. This is out of love and not something some liberal said I have to do.

The government has become the church without a Savior. This is the government, the church you attend.

While you apparently believe the teachings of Christ in regards to the needy and disadvantaged, but reject Him because He requires obedience and you want to continue in your lustful and immoral ways, you have simply joined another church, the US Government. The problem is this church is the church of man and without a Savior and you stand self-decieved, condemned and lost.

Zeke:

Plainly you are a racist.

Being one is dumb.

Jesus was not into taking money from people in the form of forced taxation.
Forcing people to do what is right is not the solution.
Concern for the needy is not the job of the government.

Isn't it ironic that the very people who claim to be pro-choice are so anti-choice when it comes to letting people decide for themselves what they would like to do with their money?

HisMan claimed without any evidence:

"Plainly you are a racist.

Being one is dumb."

Give me ANY evidence that the NAACP cares about any group other than blacks. I mean actual evidence that they have done anything for colored people OTHER THAN blacks.

They haven't! The NAACP is a black racist group that promotes the VICTIMHOOD MENTALITY that has been so destructive to blacks.

And they even give a platform for racist bigots like Jeremiah Wright to speak at their big events!

You must have NO IDEA of what the NAACP is like or who runs it to claim that I am somehow racist by stating the fact that they are all about black power and not at all concerned about colored people from other areas like India or the Middle East.

Clearly, Bethany, more STD testing and immediate treatment if an STD is discovered would reduce fertility immensely.

Oh come on!! We all know that the NAACP is all about promoting black power and influence.

So? Are you intimidated by black people in positions of power and influence Zeke? Does it scare you?

Clearly, Bethany, more STD testing and immediate treatment if an STD is discovered would reduce fertility immensely

What in the world is that supposed to mean?

I meant to say infertility. Pardon my mistake. Does that make sense now?

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