Someone really is desperate for attention.

TR: Can't believe it, but I'm agreeing with you.

She needs psychiatric attention IMO.

That's really pathetic.

I just want to make her a suit out of red plastic biohazard bags so she doesn't get anything on anybody.

I suggest someone "accidently misplace" this wonderful art piece.
Then give it a proper burial.

It should be a crime to willfully create human life for the very purpose of destroying it.

This crosses a line that I never thought would be crossed.

Speechless. Just speechless.

Well, that pretty much explains the artificial insemination thing.

I can't think of a man alive who would service a psychob***h like that.

That is the craziest thing I've heard in a reaaaaaally long time.

What a frickin' weirdo.

I just read the part about how she's going to display this piece of "art."

I think I might hurl.

It's like that one artist who tied a dog to a wall and starved him...and that was "art."

She's obviously a loon but WHY is the school allowing this display?

Evil beyond description.

There's not much I can say except wow, that is just unbelievably disgusting.

Can I ask a revolting logistics question?

I think (THINK) I had an early miscarriage when I was 22. It hurt, but there really wasn't enough material for an art project.
How often could this crazemonster possibly have been pregnant in a year?
Amateur artificial insemination virtually never works, I don't think anyone's unit could recover and get pregnant again in the recovery time it was given, and I can't imaginwe where she found donors for her project. (Did she say anything about positive pregnancy tests?)

I get the impression this fruitloop enjoys playing with her periods like toddlers enjoy fingerpainting with their turds.

(Let's ignore her and she'll go away...)

Bethany: Can you delete my two comments? I think that they were inappropriate.

HisMan,
No doubt. How sad and pathetic. This girl needs serious help. What was the purpose of this "art project"?

For kids like this it's not about what attention they can give to art. It's about what art can give you attention.

It ain't art. It's vanity.

Wow.

I think that is one of the most twisted, f****d up things I've ever seen/read/heard.

That's not art. That is crap. She should be flunked out of her major, she is an embarrassment to art. Seriously.

"I get the impression this fruitloop enjoys playing with her periods like toddlers enjoy fingerpainting with their turds."

@Laura: I agree.

Okay Carrie, I'm on it.

The link to the article does not work.

I am absolutely totally speechless and disgusted. This is the result of thinking like SoMG and TR, who believe that abortion should be a part of our culture. Well, guess what guys - here you have it.
Don't condemn it because according to your morality there is nothing wrong with this - it's not human, just insensate mush that's coming out of her - no different than if she slit her wrists every couple of weeks for fun.

This girl should be expelled and committed.

See, but I love shocking art. I'm a HUGE Mapplethorpe fan. But this is just...insane.

Weird. Creepy and weird.

Sounds Delicious!

Why would ANY proabort be upset at this art exhibit? The inconsistency is mind boggling!
Proabort liberals believe in sex outside of marriage, artificial insemination, abortion, the use of RU-486 and bodily autonomy.
Shvarts has excercised her right to use most of these options and in fact is living to the letter of the proabort mentality.
Not only that but she's shown how it's art and part of the culture.
All she's done IMO, is partaken of the sacrament of abortion numerous times. The liberals should be proud of her.

I thought it was illegal to abort yourself.

I thought Roe v Wade was supposed to end dangerous DIY abortions and make them "safe but rare"?

I don't know why she artificially inseminated herself - where's the fun in that? Wonder if the sperm donors knew she'd be parading his dead children in the name of "art".

Oh, bollocks, Patricia. You know the difference. We want them to be safe, legal, and rare. She can't be, nor should she be, brought up on legal charges for it, but it's ridiculous to say that pro-choice people caused this. We don't want abortions to happen either, we just want unwanted children to happen less than that.

Mil- It is safe. It's just stupid :-P

Anthony!

You're the gay man that photoshopped Bethany's baby, aren't you?

"You're the gay man that photoshopped Bethany's baby, aren't you?"

Whaaaaaat...?

Jaque,
I thought the EXACT SAME THING!!!!!!!!!

How often could this crazemonster possibly have been pregnant in a year?
Amateur artificial insemination virtually never works, I don't think anyone's unit could recover and get pregnant again in the recovery time it was given, and I can't imaginwe where she found donors for her project. (Did she say anything about positive pregnancy tests?)
Let's ignore her and she'll go away...)

Posted by: Laura at April 17, 2008 10:39 AM

All good questions. Her "project disgusting art"
doesn't even seem feasible.

How often could this crazemonster possibly have been pregnant in a year?
Amateur artificial insemination virtually never works, I don't think anyone's unit could recover and get pregnant again in the recovery time it was given, and I can't imaginwe where she found donors for her project. (Did she say anything about positive pregnancy tests?)
Let's ignore her and she'll go away...)

Posted by: Laura at April 17, 2008 10:39 AM

All good questions. Her "project disgusting art"
doesn't even seem feasible.

Erin,
This young beast has done NOTHING that isn't outside of what proabort liberals believe in.
She's only shown it for what it really is. The liberal pap she's been fed through the media and in school made her what she is (and apparently, it's not much).

Safe and rare - yeah like steak. My foot.

Laura:"How often could this crazemonster possibly have been pregnant in a year?"

Laura, why do think think she is crazy? Isn't she using her freedom to choose?

Erin,
Read the comments on the PP cover up thread. Why did PP continue to solict the girl Carla knew for an abortion after she decided she didn't want one and left the clinic?

Why did they continue to call a girl I knew to abort after she said she would think about it?
They didn't call once or twice. They kept after her until she came in and did it.

Abortion is money Erin. It is a business. The lobbying groups don't care about women. They care about their big fat paychecks and keeping abortion a money making industry.

While in DC, I spoke to a woman who was a principle in making sure roe v wade passed.
She is now pro-life. She said NEVER did they EVER think abortion would end in over 50,000,000
million babies being murdered.

Have you ever read the book "Blood Money"?
You should.

Why not? If abortion is a constitutional right, the more the better, I would think. I would also think RALY would rally around this magnificent display of that which they so enthusiastically support.

Pro-choicers do not want there to be more abortions, Jill. Really now, if you wanted to honestly fight, you'd do so, rather then setting up strawmen.

I do worry about the consequences of these repeated abortions on Shvarts' body. Then again, if abortion is completely safe, quick and multiple repeats shouldn't matter.

It is relatively safe. It's safer than childbirth. That doesn't mean that it won't still have an effect on someone's body. Approximately 16,000 people die every year from overdoses on TYLENOL.

It's safe, isn't it? If not, why don't you try to outlaw Tylenol too?

Hmmmm....I'm a little confused at the responses of some of the people here regarding this twisted girl's attempt at "art"

Hey, guess what? ...it's HER body, HER Choice!

Isn't that your mantra? Why are you calling her names now for proving just that?

And abortion is legal, right?

Interesting that you can immediately find safety stats for Tylenol, but informed consent for abortion? Like finding a needle in a haystack.

Jaque,
I thought the EXACT SAME THING!!!!!!!!!

Well, his email address had references to both Judy Garland and Barbra Streisand. The man has to be flaming!

RSD, yes it is her choice to do so. That doesn't mean we pro-choicers think she's doing a good thing. By the way, you can be pro-choice and OPPOSE ABORTION.

The only difference is that you understand the government has no place deciding who can and cannot get one.

Oh, bollocks, Patricia. You know the difference. We want them to be safe, legal, and rare. She can't be, nor should she be, brought up on legal charges for it, but it's ridiculous to say that pro-choice people caused this. We don't want abortions to happen either, we just want unwanted children to happen less than that.

Erin, you really should clarify. You want unwanted (by the pregnant mother at that specific moment in time) children to be eliminated.

Every child IS a wanted child, or else there wouldn't be waiting lists for adoptions!

Oh, bollocks, Patricia. You know the difference. We want them to be safe, legal, and rare. She can't be, nor should she be, brought up on legal charges for it, but it's ridiculous to say that pro-choice people caused this. We don't want abortions to happen either, we just want unwanted children to happen less than that.

Erin, you really should clarify. You want unwanted (by the pregnant mother at that specific moment in time) children to be eliminated.

Every child IS a wanted child, or else there wouldn't be waiting lists for adoptions!

Jaque,
I missed the "gay" reference in your post, but when I read his/her post I immediately thought the same thing!

And... if herbal abortions are so darn safe, why pay hundreds of dollars to PP or even shell out for the morning after pill?

Let's just do it at home naturally. No problem, right?

"..By the way, you can be pro-choice and OPPOSE ABORTION. "
-------------------------------------
I've always been pro-choice..in the TRUE sense of the word..I CHOOSE Life and oppose abortion.

For that we agree...

What I saw was the hypocritical treatment of your
cohorts of the "artist" because of her CHOICE.

I wonder how tolerated it would be for a pro-life student to exhibit photos of aborted babies and and play abortion videos made available on the internet.

Uh, Sandy..it is NOT tolerated at all. But documentation of induced miscarriage by a sr. student at YALE is "ART".

I have to wonder if Aliza has been influenced by the photographic artist Joel Peter Witkin. As well as the artful PL representations of dead conceptii.
Macabre is the word that comes to mind. But rather interesting. Her project most certainly has people talking. I'd be interested to know what she feels her project represents.

Uh, Sandy..it is NOT tolerated at all. But documentation of induced miscarriage by a sr. student at YALE is "ART".

Posted by: RSD at April 17, 2008 1:49 PM
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What's that Cali freshman student's name that the PL are all a twitter about? You know, that one that makes prank phone calls to women's clinics.

I doubt her parents will stick this "art project" on their fridge.

Let's talk about "art" - every human life is uniquely designed by the Artist of Artists! We are each the handiwork of a Master. People are beautiful (living people that is - the beauty leaves the moment the life leaves). People at whatever stage of development are beautiful because they are categorically different than anything else that breathes. Here's why… people are made in the image of God. This poor soul at Yale is destroying the image of God.

RSD,
I know. I was being facious. Just had to throw out the question.

Question-

Did she have her donors screened for this project?
Sounds like a great way to get HIV, hepatitis, etc...

As disgusting and reprehensible as this is, to me it seems like the logical extension of the pro-death mentality of abortion on demand. She is demanding abortions, what pro-choicer can say she's doing anything that doesn't fit the "choice" mantra?

Ok, so these apparent "pro-aborts" agree with everyone that this is disgusting, innapropriate and just wrong. And yet they're still getting scolded and accused of doing something wrong. Let's all hold hands and appreciate that this is sick and that sometimes art is weird and gross and we're all in agreement yAYYY!!

I can't hold hands with these people ali because their thinking is inconsistent.
Liberals are constantly telling us that a woman has a right to do what she wishes with her body and Shvartz has done this.
They have supported artificial semination, abortion, and RU-486.
Yet when a woman exercises her right to all these things, well now they are upset. Why?

"It's like that one artist who tied a dog to a wall and starved him...and that was "art."

I think that is just an urban legend because no one really seems to know any concrete facts about it. I also haven't seen anything on PETA about it, I'm assuming they would have checked this out.

I don't see a problem with this art exhibit. I do believe it is her body, and therefore her choice. I think it might be a hoax though. Whatever like I said it is her body.

And I think herbal abortions are a lot less effective then other kinds and I heard "a lot messier".

I think that is just an urban legend because no one really seems to know any concrete facts about it. I also haven't seen anything on PETA about it, I'm assuming they would have checked this out.

Jess,

I don't know...I saw some pictures on it and I asked my friend who posted the pictures..and from her knowledge, it is real.

I don't see a problem with this art exhibit. I do believe it is her body, and therefore her choice. I think it might be a hoax though. Whatever like I said it is her body.

How could it be a hoax if she is going to put on the display?

And I really don't see how you can reconcile this back to simply "Her body, her choice." While it's consistent with your stance, I would feel you, who got so outraged yesterday by the Pope thread would be a little bit sickened by this. It makes me a little disappointed and saddened for you, Jess.

It was a hoax:

http://www.yale.edu/opa/

The whole thing was faked.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/17/AR2008041702519.html?hpid=moreheadlines

The whole thing was faked.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/17/AR2008041702519.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Posted by: SoMG at April 17, 2008 6:54 PM

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Wow! She certainly had more than a few people 'performing' over her unseen art. I'm very interested to see her work.

From CNN on the story in this post:

"Had these acts been real they would have violated basic ethical standards and raised serious mental and physical health concerns."

Yeah, sure. Like a liberal university such as Yale would be concerned with this aspect! What a joke!!!

Sorry the above was from Fox.
Here's another quote:
"Had she impregnated herself, ob-gyn Dr. Manuel Alvarez said the young woman should have been worried because such actions are extremely unsafe. Alvarez, FOXNews.com's health managing editor, described forced miscarriages as "playing Russian roulette" with a pregnant woman's life."

Why? I thought abortion is safer than pregnancy? Isn't that the proabort liberal line these days.

This idiot should be expelled. And Yale considers itself an institution of higher learning? NOT!

http://www.yale.edu/opa/

New Haven, Conn. — April 17, 2008
Ms. Shvarts is engaged in performance art. Her art project includes visual representations, a press release and other narrative materials. She stated to three senior Yale University officials today, including two deans, that she did not impregnate herself and that she did not induce any miscarriages. The entire project is an art piece, a creative fiction designed to draw attention to the ambiguity surrounding form and function of a woman’s body.
She is an artist and has the right to express herself through performance art.
Had these acts been real, they would have violated basic ethical standards and raised serious mental and physical health concerns.

This is the goofiest thing I've seen in a loooong time! So now they are calling LIES, "art" and "creative fiction"?

What the hell does "ambiguity surrounding form and function of a woman’s body."?

You know they're right! I have no idea how the form and function of my female body relate. What mindless pap.

What the hell does "ambiguity surrounding form and function of a woman’s body."?

You know they're right! I have no idea how the form and function of my female body relate. What mindless pap.
Posted by: Patricia at April 17, 2008 7:49 PM
................

Putting together a Thomas Kinkade puzzle will not earn you an art degree Patricia. How would you artistically represent the concept of your body's form and function? She isn't representing a biology lesson.

Erin,
This young beast has done NOTHING that isn't outside of what proabort liberals believe in.
She's only shown it for what it really is. The liberal pap she's been fed through the media and in school made her what she is (and apparently, it's not much).

Safe and rare - yeah like steak. My foot.

Posted by: Patricia at April 17, 2008 12:12 PM
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Bullshit

Erin,
This young beast has done NOTHING that isn't outside of what proabort liberals believe in.
She's only shown it for what it really is. The liberal pap she's been fed through the media and in school made her what she is (and apparently, it's not much).

Safe and rare - yeah like steak. My foot.

Posted by: Patricia at April 17, 2008 12:12 PM
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Bullshit

Even if it was a hoax, I think someone is really desperate for people to pay attention to her.

I guess the Administration at yale university became worried concerning the effects of aborto-art on the volume of alumni contributions.

Patricia --

Liberals are constantly telling us that a woman has a right to do what she wishes with her body and Shvartz has done this.
They have supported artificial semination, abortion, and RU-486.
Yet when a woman exercises her right to all these things, well now they are upset. Why?

Hm. Well, I for one really hate killing roaches. It makes me sad to kill them, but it makes me sadder to have them in my kitchen hanging out in my sink. So I kill them, and I don't really feel too bad about it. I would, however, be horrified and frightened by someone who bred roaches in her apartment for the sole purpose of killing them. Do you not see a difference? REALLY? One action accepts the regrettable termination of life when necessary; another delights in creating life for the sole purpose of terminating it.

Notice that no one in this thread (or elsewhere, that I've heard) has questioned the young woman's right to do this (if she even did). So your argument about how "liberals are constantly telling us that a woman has a right to do what she wishes with her body" is a moot point, because pretty much everyone is still saying that she should have the right to do it. Again with the tired old "right to free speech means right to say awful things" argument -- I'll certainly speak out against the ideas espoused by KKK members, but that doesn't mean I've changed my opinion on the subject of free speech.

Wow - killing babies is the same as killing roaches?

And the wrongness of it all depends on how sad it makes someone? If it makes them sad to have roaches on the counter, bye bye roaches.

If it makes them sad that someone is alive... bye bye person?

Wow - killing babies is the same as killing roaches?

No. That's why it's called an analogy. An embryo is not the same as a roach, but both roach-killing and abortion are examples of people acting in ways they don't necessarily "want" to, because they want the alternative even less. Both, when done specifically because someone wants to for the sole purpose of doing it, are kind of creepy.

And the wrongness of it all depends on how sad it makes someone? If it makes them sad to have roaches on the counter, bye bye roaches.

Obviously we differ on whether bodily autonomy is a valid reason to abort; I don't really think that's a necessary debate to have right now. My point was that Patricia and many others keep saying that this woman's art project is the logical extension of everything pro-choicers stand for, when it isn't necessarily. It's perfectly valid for someone who's pro-choice to still be weirded out by this woman's project.

"Statement by Helaine S. Klasky — Yale University, Spokesperson
New Haven, Conn. — April 17, 2008

Ms. Shvarts is engaged in performance art. Her art project includes visual representations, a press release and other narrative materials. She stated to three senior Yale University officials today, including two deans, that she did not impregnate herself and that she did not induce any miscarriages. The entire project is an art piece, a creative fiction designed to draw attention to the ambiguity surrounding form and function of a woman’s body.

She is an artist and has the right to express herself through performance art.

Had these acts been real, they would have violated basic ethical standards and raised serious mental and physical health concerns."

The patients are in control of the asylum.

The patients are in control of the asylum.

It does seem like yllas has been online a lot lately.

There are no words to describe such an awful display of humanity. This woman does not deserve to have any children of her own in this life. She needs serious help!! What a freak of nature!