If people only laid eggs, abortion would be a whole hell of a lot easier...

Edyt - why do you have abortion on your mind? If people laid eggs they could easily give them away - right?

Aren't you the least bit curious about why your focus is almost solely on abortion?

3D and 4D Ultrasounds show the humanity of the unborn child. I think are what scare the abortion industry more than education and women changing their minds.

Oh, and when my sister was pregnant with my oldest niece (Who will be 9 this year), I felt my niece HICCUPING in the womb. 'Tissue' doesn't hiccup. Tissue doesn't kick, either.

Well, Chris, this being a pro-life blog and all, I pretty much spend a lot of time talking about abortion here!

Hey, anyone else read any of the articles about how that pregnancy pact thing may have all been a big lie?

See here and here.

Jill,

Good example of our corrupt MSM.

Some women should not be mothers. Perhaps some crocodiles do make better mothers than them.

All the more reason to leave abortion to be the decision of a woman and her doctor.

Margareta:

Huh?

Last time I checked women were human beings with minds, souls and free wills and crocdiles were vicious predatory animals who operate on instinct.

Are you saying you're a pro-abort because crocodiles take care of baby crocodiles better than some human mothers take care of their human babies? This logic justifies being able to kill an innocent baby in the womb because the moterh wants to and the "high priest" doctor yields his impramatur?

What if the doctor is an atheist and thinks that babies are persons who have invaded a woman's body and therefore are subject to being legally murdered? We have one such abortionist on this site and his name is SoMG. Read his diabolical posts sometimes.

Your reasonings and mindset are exactly why infanticidal organizations like Planned Parenthood can coin terms like "pro-choice" and "reporductive rights" and make abortion, the murder of an innocent child in the womb of it's mother, a seemingly amoral decision between a woman and her doctor, when in reality, it is one of the most heinous crimes being committed.

Right On, HisMan !!!

"Last time I checked women were human beings with minds, souls and free wills and crocodiles were vicious predatory animals who operate on instinct."

Hisman, I was under the impression you thought women should just follow their husbands and abandon their free will.

And way to insult crocodiles. I bet you've never even spent any time with them. They eat to live, like any living creature, and they would only attack when they feel threatened. All beings on this Earth deserve the same loving understanding that you and I would expect.

"All beings on this Earth deserve the same loving understanding that you and I would expect."

Really Jess? Good. Does that include unborn children too?

Yeah, Jess...aren't unborn babies also beings of this earth that deserve our loving, too?

Or is that statement only applicable to "wanted" babies and baby crocodiles?

Margareta: "Some women should not be mothers."

Assuming that is true, Margareta, what is your solution for such a woman who is already a mother? Should she kill her living child? Or would that just make her the mother of a dead child? Or should she give her living child up for adoption?

How about it Margareta, which is the more "compassionate" route for such a woman?

If people only laid eggs, abortion would be a whole hell of a lot easier...

I thought abortion was about getting an unwanted fetus out of mom's body. But here you've made clear what I've been saying for years -- that the goal isn't to restore the woman to the non-pregnant state. It's to achieve the death of the fetus.

If abortion was really about just letting the mother decide if her body should be nurturing this fetus or not, then humans laying eggs would END "abortion", not facilitate it, because the fetus in question would be in an egg outside the mother's body, and care for it would be easily achieved by anybody else.

Thank you for making it abundantly clear that the goal really is a dead baby, not a "free" mother.

All the more reason to leave abortion to be the decision of a woman and her doctor.

I love your logic: Some women want to kill their babies. All the more reason to have society help them kill their babies.

Isn't society's job to protect the vunlerable from those who want to kill them, rather than to side with the aggressor and make killing them easier?

Hisman, I was under the impression you thought women should just follow their husbands and abandon their free will.

So to tell women, "You may not kill that baby" is to tell women to follow their husbands and abandon free will?

Christina @ 7:33 AM

Exactly - but Edyt realizes it's about power.

I always thought Jeanne Kirkpatrick looked like a crocodile.

This is a comments post test

Christina @ 7:33am, Edyt was saying that abortion would be a whole lot easier if women laid eggs because then we wouldn't have abortion. The point of abortion is to end a pregnancy, if women weren't pregnant we wouldn't need abortion! Please don't play dumb it's counterproductive.
Hisman has often said in previous posts that the man was the head of the family and is supposed to make all the decisions.

Jasper and RSD, yes.

Chris @ 9:47am, You would use that argument.

"Jasper and RSD, yes."
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Well, Jess...then your stand on abortion CONTRADICTS what you just stated:

""All beings on this Earth deserve the same loving understanding that you and I would expect."

RSD, yes fetuses deserve loving understanding just the same as the women who are carrying them and sine the fetuses is attached to the woman's body, inside of her, she should be able to refuse to carry it if she thinks it is best for her, her child, or both.

As for me, I would not want to be a burden to anyone, ever.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, just to be sure it's common knowledge, I wouldn't want to live artificially in any way. Not even a feeding tube.

" she should be able to refuse to carry it if she thinks it is best for her, her child, or both. "
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First off..."refuse to carry it" Jess? Why don't we keep the terms simple..."kill the baby" is what you mean, right?

And...how is Killing the baby part of a "loving understanding" process?

Sorry...you pretend to care about life but it falls short....

Abortion doesn't always "kill a baby".

What do you mean, pretend to care about life? If you mean the pro-life movement, no I don't care much for it. It's just as corrupt as any pro-abortion stance. I'm pro-choice. I care about choice, making sure people have choice and hoping they take advantage of it and are aware of ALL their choices.

And why do you say baby? It's not a baby, it's a fetus. A human fetus. Why not call it an adult? Why not call it a toddler? Because it's not in that stage of development, it's a fetus.

You just don't want to accept that a fetus is a human being. That's insulting. A fetus is just as much a person as you or me.

RSD, yes fetuses deserve loving understanding just the same as the women who are carrying them and sine the fetuses is attached to the woman's body, inside of her, she should be able to refuse to carry it if she thinks it is best for her, her child, or both.
As for me, I would not want to be a burden to anyone, ever.

Is it loving and understanding to project your desires on your baby and decide for your child whether he should live or die?

By the way, using the term "baby" is correct in the English language. Check it out in the dictionary. The only place it is not proper usage of the term is strictly medically speaking, and I doubt we are all speaking as medical professionals in a cold, clinical environment.

I mean, even my doctor uses the term "baby" when I am pregnant... and she IS a medical professional.

"Is it loving and understanding to project your desires on your baby and decide for your child whether he should live or die?"

Yes. Well people decide all the time to make babies (have sex) and until the baby leaves the mothers body it is up to her to decide everything for it.

Saying baby just gets confusing though, fetus means the same thing only unborn.

Saying baby just gets confusing though, fetus means the same thing only unborn.

I have never once gotten confused by someone using the term "baby" for my unborn children. Funny thing also, while I was pregnant, I never saw anyone look at me, puzzled, when I told them that my *baby* kicked, or hiccuped. I can guarantee if I had said "fetus" I would have gotten some looks though. lol

Yes. Well people decide all the time to make babies (have sex) and until the baby leaves the mothers body it is up to her to decide everything for it.

Jess, I think you misunderstood me. I asked if it is loving and understanding towards the baby, to kill it, because you decided to make the choice for the baby, whether he gets to continue living?

I didn't ask if people do it. I already know the answer to that.

"You just don't want to accept that a fetus is a human being. That's insulting. A fetus is just as much a person as you or me."
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I'M the one who doesn't recognize the baby as a Human being????

I recognize it as a human being at the moment of conception...and I (nor anybody here) has the right to kill that tiny human being.

Your so-called defense of CHOICE defends those that do. In so doing, YOU are as guilty as those that butcher these tiny human beings in the name of CHOICE.

How can you sleep at night knowing you defend the brutal slaying of unborn babies, Jess??

..that should be: I (nor anybody here) DON"T have the right to kill that tiny human being...

Well RSD, women don't have to be pregnant if they don't want to be. That's more important then making sure every baby conceived is born. That's how I sleep at night : )

Well, Jess...good for you...but my consciene bugs me if (heaven forbid) I should ever be in your position...

I'm not the one who will answer the Just Judge at the moment of death that "women don't have to be pregnant if they don't want to be".

That's more important then making sure every baby conceived is born.

Why? Do babies magically conceive themselves?

"I'm not the one who will answer the Just Judge at the moment of death that "women don't have to be pregnant if they don't want to be"."

We all have to answer to him, what makes you so special?
Lol, if Jesus thinks like some of the pro-lifers here then I'll gladly go to hell : D

"Why? Do babies magically conceive themselves?"

Yes.

"Well RSD, women don't have to be pregnant if they don't want to be. That's more important then making sure every baby conceived is born."

Thank you, Jess. It's nice to see common sense.

In this case, "Common" sense was the least common of all the senses being displayed...

Christina, thank you for extrapolating on my statement and inferring things I never said.

Now, to clarify for those of you who don't seem to get it... abortion would be "easier" because all it would entail is abandoning the egg and leaving it to die on its own. Abortion would be "easier" because there would be no need to have a surgical procedure to extract the child. Abortion would be "easier" because it would not require cost, transportation, after-care, etc. And even if the child survived (and hatched somewhere), the mother would never need to know.

In this case, "Common" sense was the least common of all the senses being displayed...

Posted by: RSD at June 25, 2008 1:30 PM
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Funny that you should think that being 'common' is a groovy life goal. 'Common' women are women that will have sex with anyone that it is willing to pay the 'common' compensation.
Having 'common' sense isn't really something to brag about when attempting to pretend to be uncommon.