Jivin J's Life Links 2-12-09

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  • Glamour has a long piece on abortion entitled, "Abortion: The secret health decision women aren't talking about until now" and another piece where 8 women share their abortion stories. (The beginning lists resources for women who've had or are considering abortion - all of which are from pro-choice groups.) The first story is just an attack on crisis pregnancy centers and rest are from women who seem to have no regrets about their abortions. Here's an example from the last story:

    My abortion was not painful, but I am wistful about losing the physical sensation of being pregnant. I never realized how a baby could get into a woman's blood - I still feel a connection to that little lima bean.

  • Officials at St. Mary's University are working on their excuses for shutting down a pro-life presentation by JoJo Ruba. They apparently allowed the event to continue at a nearby church:

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    Chuck Bridges, vice-president of external affairs at Saint Mary's, said the university did let the presentation continue, it just took place at the nearby church instead.

    "It's important to clarify . . . that the lecture was not shut down," he said Wednesday.

    "When we saw the level of emotional engagement from those on both sides of the discussion, we felt it better that rather than having people face disciplinary action, that we would defuse the situation by allowing a bit of a cooling off and moving it to another location a building away," he said.

    "So those who were keenly interested in hearing that side of the discussion, they had that opportunity."

    So the answer to incredibly childish, unruly protestors is to give into the handful protesters and move the event off campus instead of removing the protesters or disciplining them?

  • A woman in Louisiana named Ciara Craig is in the process of being charged with first degree murder after admitting to throwing her newborn daughter into a lake:

    Craig, accompanied by relatives, surrendered to police Tuesday night, saying she threw her daughter into the lake that afternoon because she didn't want to raise a child and she didn't want her parents to know she had been pregnant, police said....

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    Craig told investigators the pregnancy resulted from a single incident with a man she doesn't know. At some point recently, she decided to abort her pregnancy but was told it was too advanced. She then investigated putting the baby up for adoption....

    After delivering the child at home, Craig gathered two plastic garbage bags and two bath towels and drove with the infant to Kenner's Laketown park, police said. Witnesses there saw a woman walk to the water's edge, throw something into the water, return to the car and drive away. A bag and a bloodied towel were found nearby.

  • CNN has an article on the experiment using the stem cells of man resistant to HIV to treat an HIV-positive patient with leukemia. The patient has no signs of HIV two years after the treatment. Unfortunately, this treatment isn't likely going to be for everyone:

    While promising, the treatment is unlikely to help the vast majority of people infected with HIV, said Dr. Jay Levy, a professor at the University of CA San Francisco, who wrote an editorial accompanying the study. A stem cell transplant is too extreme and too dangerous to be used as a routine treatment, he said.

    "About a third of the people die [during such transplants], so it's just too much of a risk," Levy said. To perform a stem cell transplant, doctors intentionally destroy a patient's immune system, leaving the patient vulnerable to infection, and then reintroduce a donor's stem cells (which are from either bone marrow or blood) in an effort to establish a new, healthy immune system.

    Levy also said it's unlikely that the transplant truly cured the patient in this study. HIV can infect many other types of cells and may be hiding out in the patient's body to resurface at a later time, he said.

    [Photo of Craig courtesy of Nola.com]


  • Comments:

    does Louisiana not have a Safe Haven law? Another child whose life was cut short because of the culture of death. So sad.

    Posted by: LizFromNebraska at February 12, 2009 4:19 PM


    Another child whose life was cut short because of the culture of death.

    She tried to go to an abortion clinic, but the pro-life laws stopped her. Seems like the culture of life is to blame for this one.

    Posted by: reality at February 12, 2009 4:59 PM


    Seems like the culture of life is to blame for this one.

    This mother could have dropped off her newborn at a safe haven with no questions asked. According to the article, she also explored adoption. But for whatever reason, she chose to kill her newborn daughter rather than take one of the other options. And for this you blame the culture of life?

    Sounds much more like the culture of death to kill outside the womb because it wasn't possible to kill in the womb late in the pregnancy.

    Posted by: Fed Up at February 12, 2009 5:34 PM


    I wonder if her parents would have helped her raise the baby had she told them she was pregnant?

    Posted by: LizFromNebraska at February 12, 2009 5:43 PM


    I wonder if her parents would have helped her

    Liz, even if her parents or extended family would not have been willing, she still had another option even if she didn't know about safe havens.

    She could have gone with the baby to the ER and told them she just had a baby and couldn't care for it. She'd have had the same patient confidentially rights that other patients have. Her family wouldn't have had to be notified. She'd have received the post partum care she needed. They would have called in social services to assist her in caring for the child or surrendering it.

    My heart aches for this woman as well as her dead daughter. Her life is ruined now because she bought into the culture of death.

    Posted by: Fed Up at February 12, 2009 6:04 PM


    This mother could have dropped off her newborn at a safe haven with no questions asked. According to the article, she also explored adoption. But for whatever reason, she chose to kill her newborn daughter rather than take one of the other options. And for this you blame the culture of life?

    Yes, I do. This woman obviously did not want to be a birth mother, but the "culture of life" gave her no legal and safe option to avoid it. So she did the only thing she could do.

    Like it or not, some pregnant women just do not want to have babies, and the government has no business trying to use them for breeding stock against their will. When it tries, this is what happens. Thanks a lot, "culture of life."

    Posted by: reality at February 12, 2009 7:02 PM


    The long Glamour article has more abortion stories in it, including the following:

    Monique, a 35-year-old mother of two, ages 9 and 11, found out she was pregnant last June. “I was recently divorced and had just started dating my boyfriend,” she says. “I didn’t feel ready for another child.” Still, the decision to have an abortion was difficult. “I felt so ashamed,” she says. “Physically I was fine, but I was sick emotionally for weeks.” The experience traumatized Lisa, 36, even more. She had her first abortion at the urging of her boyfriend when she was 19 and says it triggered depression that ultimately led to drug abuse. While addicted, she got pregnant again and had a second abortion. Years later, after Lisa joined Narcotics Anonymous, married her current husband and had two children, her regrets surfaced fully. “I was raised Christian, and had already asked God to forgive me, but I couldn’t forgive myself,” she says. Distraught, Lisa wrestled with her emotions and more depression until she found an abortion recovery bible study group. “I came to a place of acceptance,” she says. “I would give anything to go back, but I can’t. Instead, I choose to forgive myself and to move forward.”

    Anne Baker, who has counseled more than 25,000 women and is director of counseling at Hope Clinic in Granite City, Illinois, says many women spend so much time beating themselves up for getting pregnant that they don’t consider the full array of feelings they might have after the procedure. “Feeling rushed, or wanting to ‘get it over with,’ can be a cause for guilt or regret later,” she says. “It’s crucial to really think the issue through.” Some clinics offer in-depth counseling to explore these issues up front, but many don’t; if you or someone you love is feeling at all uncertain, Baker recommends seeking out counseling

    Posted by: Alexandra at February 12, 2009 7:02 PM


    Reality 7:02PM

    Please. Abortion is legal! How do you know this woman had no other options? Did it ever occur to you that maybe this woman has some serious mental health issues?

    Posted by: Mary at February 12, 2009 7:33 PM


    "So she did the only thing she could do. "

    This has been mentioned before, but it needs to be said again...She could have dropped her baby off at a fire station or hospital.

    Posted by: lauren at February 12, 2009 7:49 PM


    Lauren,

    Exactly. She could have had a social worker arrange an adoption while she was pregnant, with the understanding the adoptive parents would pay all expenses. I knew a college student who did just that, and her parents never knew a thing about it, which was what she wanted.

    Who was that college girl, Amy Grossberg, who along with her boyfriend killed their newborn son? She had no options? She most certainly did. She could have done the above mentioned.

    Posted by: Mary at February 12, 2009 8:15 PM


    This woman obviously did not want to be a birth mother, but the "culture of life" gave her no legal and safe option to avoid it

    She had the option to get an abortion earlier in her pregnancy, reality. What you are saying is that the baby girl had a duty to die, even past the age when she'd have been able to survive outside the womb. The article states that the mother's attempt to get an abortion was "recent."

    You prove my point that this poor mother succumbed to the culture of death, where life is disposable at any stage of pregnancy ... and beyond.

    Posted by: Fed Up at February 12, 2009 8:16 PM


    FedUp 8:16PM

    Excellent post.


    Posted by: Mary at February 12, 2009 8:21 PM


    That Glamour article is just the saddest thing ever.
    a woman comparing her aborted baby to a lima bean!
    another referred to using the "rhythm method" - oh please!
    3 got pregnant while using BC of some sort, the others didn't use anything.
    So basically the abortions were back up birth control.

    I think this is "choice's" attempt to counter the Silent No More campaign. Which means the SNM campaign is working and the proaborts don't like it because it shows the real face to abortion!

    Posted by: toostunnedtolaugh at February 12, 2009 9:48 PM


    Don't be too disappointed, Reality.

    At the end of the day, the woman got what she wanted.

    It just took her longer than most to get around to it.

    Posted by: carder at February 13, 2009 8:34 AM


    Childiish unruly protesters - you mean the ones that block health clinics and pathetically yell at women and "counsel" them are not childish. lol.

    Posted by: Yo La Tengo at February 13, 2009 9:09 AM


    the counselors I know are very kind. And protesters I am with are peaceful ones that pray for the women, especially for the ones that are most vulnerable with no support system at all.


    Posted by: LizFromNebraska at February 13, 2009 4:14 PM


    TSTL,
    I agree. The abortion stories of regret are very threatening to "the biz." I best keep yapping. :)

    Posted by: Carla at February 13, 2009 9:37 PM