Chris Matthews: Pro-lifers opposing Sebelius are "terrorists... verbal terrorists"

I previously referred to Chris Matthews' appalling reference last night on Hardball to pro-lifers opposing the Sebelius nomination for HHS Secretary as "terrorists... verbal terrorists." But Matthews' remark deserves its own spot in the sun.

Thanks to NewsBusters for posting the video on Eyeblast...

The story, per Geoffrey Dickens of Newsbusters...

On Monday night's Hardball, Chris Matthews feared KS Governor Kathleen Sebelius, in her nomination fight to head HHS, would be a target of "the terrorism of the, of the anti-abortion people." Then perhaps realizing he called all pro-lifers terrorists, Matthews feebly attempted to amend the statement, as he tried to clarify, "I mean verbal terrorism."

The following exchange was aired during the March 2, edition of Hardball:

Matthews: Let's talk about, let's get to something really tough.

Jonathan Martin, Politico: Sure.

Matthews: Kathleen Sebelius, very likeable, very impressive. I think of the woman who becomes the governor in Mr. Holland's Opus, remember the one who comes back?

Lois Romano, Washington Post: Right.

Matthews: Who becomes the governor, the woman governor. She looks like her, in fact. Is she gonna get through the, the terrorism of the, of the anti-abortion people?

Romano: Yeah I think she's gonna do that and I think they've got a clear shot.

Matthews: I mean verbal terrorism.

Romano: Yeah they're, she'll get through that.

Martin: I think she will, for one important reason. Sam Brownback, her home state senator, an ardent Catholic pro-lifer, Chris, has said kind things about her, signaling that he will not stand in her way. So if that's any, sort of indication I think that bodes well for Sebelius.

Matthews: But are we gonna have days and days of hearings about what she did about this guy who was a late-term abortion doctor?

Martin: I'm sure it'll come up.


Palpable fear on Matthews' part. Where's his tingle now?

Posted by: Chris Arsenault at March 3, 2009 11:38 AM

Seblius is a disgrace.

Remember a guy named Pontius Pilate?

He asked , "What is truth" with the Truth standing in front of him.

Sebelius has traded her soul for power and prestige, always a losing transaction.

What amazes me is how these so-called wise and intelligent people could make such stupid decsions regarding their own souls.

Posted by: HisMan at March 3, 2009 11:49 AM

If I was a woman I think I'd challenge Chris Matthews to a duel.

Posted by: HisMan at March 3, 2009 12:03 PM

@ His Man

What you fail to understand is Pontius Pilate saw the world from the powerful view of a Roman Prefect who had the might of Roman Legions behind him. You see the world through the view of a Theocrat in America whose religion binds together his worldview, lust for control over others, with joy in materialism and the belief that there is no chance that you can go to Hell coupled with the certainty that all of your enemies will the Eternally Damned.

Governor Sebelius [q c p n!] will be confirmed byt the Senate despite your meek protestations!

[q c p n!]

Posted by: Pain at March 3, 2009 12:15 PM

First I watched the video where "Lucky" got flushed, then I watched Chris Mathews, whose show should be flushed....

Posted by: Doyle at March 3, 2009 2:42 PM

Anti-choice laws are like Sharia Law. Sure its fine if its only applied to Muslims who hold to it, but for the rest of us it doesnt' make sense. Likewise, sure if you want to have a personal law against abortion, more power to ya, but for the rest of us who don't hold to the cosmology that a fetilized egg is human it makes no sense.

Posted by: Yo la Tengo at March 3, 2009 3:24 PM

"but for the rest of us who don't hold to the cosmology that a fetilized egg is human..."

I'd love to see some science that backs this statement up. Science, not philosophy BTW. In the meantime, here's some science which shows that that statement is completely incorrect.

"Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote). ... The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual." (Carlson, Bruce M., Patten's Foundations of Embryology, 6th edition. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1996, p.3.)

"The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote." [Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]

"Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm (Gr. zygtos, yoked together), represents the beginning of a human being." [Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1]

"Although human life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed. ... The combination of 23 chromosomes present in each pronucleus results in 46 chromosomes in the zygote. Thus the diploid number is restored and the embryonic genome is formed. The embryo now exists as a genetic unity." (O'Rahilly, Ronan and Müller, Fabiola. Human Embryology and Teratology, 2nd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 1996, pp. 8, 29).

"the term conception refers to the union of the male and female pronuclear elements of procreation from which a new living being develops. It is synonymous with the terms fecundation, impregnation and fertilization ... The zygote thus formed represents the beginning of a new life." (J.P. Greenhill and E.A. Freidman. Biological Principles and Modern Practice of Obstetrics. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Publishers, pages 17 and 23.)

"Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being." [Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]

"Embryo: An organism in the earliest stage of development; in a man, from the time of conception to the end of the second month in the uterus." (Dox, Ida G. et al. The Harper Collins Illustrated Medical Dictionary. New York: Harper Perennial, 1993, p. 146.

"every time a sperm cell and ovum unite, a new being is created which is alive and will continue to live unless its death is brought about by some specific condition." (E.L. Potter, M.D., and J.M. Craig, M.D. Pathology of the Fetus and the Infant (3rd Edition). Chicago: Year Book Medical Publishers, 1975, page vii.)

"Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism.... At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new life has begun.... The term embryo covers the several stages of early development from conception to the ninth or tenth week of life." [Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1976, p. 943]

Posted by: Bobby Bambino Author Profile Page at March 3, 2009 3:28 PM

Thanks Bobby. I will file it in my YLT file. :)

Posted by: Janet at March 3, 2009 4:27 PM

HM: "If I was a woman I think I'd challenge Chris Matthews to a duel."

Why "if you were a woman"?

Yo La Tengo (with apologies to the excellent band): "...but for the rest of us who don't hold to the cosmology that a fetilized egg is human it makes no sense."

I was going to correct you yet again on this, but I see Mr. Bambino has already taken the liberty of providing the science that demonstrates that you're a dolt.

Posted by: bmmg39 at March 3, 2009 5:38 PM

So Matthews thinks its "terrorism" to oppose a radical pro abort, but its not terrorism for the innocent unborn to be ripped apart in their mother's womb or left to die if they happen to survive the abortion?

Hasn't Sebelius friend Tiller admitted to aborting babies that were at full term? And hasnt Tiller given a lot of money to Sebelius campaigns? In fact I think PP has as well.

Posted by: Joanne at March 3, 2009 6:16 PM

Yola tengle and chris matthews are entitled to idolatry and obama worship

Pro deathers are terrorists. 3,500 killings a day.

Posted by: xppc at March 3, 2009 11:08 PM

On some of the message boards which I frequent, Sibelius is being ripped for her association with Tiller and her flaunting of the Church's commandments. So it is not just the pro-lifers who are upset with her.

One thing I heard on one of those boards is that her son invented a game called 'Prison Rape' or something of that nature. Does anyone know anything about this?

Posted by: Andy at March 4, 2009 5:23 PM

Andy, I just found this. He is her son and it is his game:

His site is:

Posted by: Luana at March 4, 2009 11:35 PM