Life Training Institute

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The Life Training Institute, a Christian pro-life apostolate featuring Scott Klusendorf and Dr. Julie Parton, is an invaluable resource for pro-lifers. Scott is a pro-life speaker who can be heard on YouTube here and here.

LTI distributes a wonderful podcast dealing with pro-life arguments and responses to pro-choice arguments. Some of the issues that they have
dealt with in detail are...

  • the bodily autonomy argument
  • an RH Reality Check Personhood argument, and
  • Obama's recent stem cell decision
  • At the end of each podcast, LTI member and medical doctor "Serge," reviews a different scientific paper publicized by the MSM to "spin" facts on such topics as, "abstinence education doesn't work," showing the problems and flaws in that paper.

    Episodes can be downloaded individually on the LTI blog (on the right sidebar under LTI Podcast) or one can subscribe via iTunes by searching "Life Training Institute Podcast." Information about the contents of each individual podcast may also be found on the blog.

    I cannot say enough about the quality and logic of the arguments that LTI presents on these podcasts. Pro-lifers need to internalize them and be ready to give a defense for the hope that lies within us (1 Peter 3:15).

    God love you.


    Comments:

    Thank you, Bobby! There's some good stuff on the LTI site. I appreciate the way they expose the self-defeating nature of a moral relativist's argument.

    Posted by: Fed Up at March 13, 2009 5:19 PM


    This site should be a must read for all pro lifers. I can attest that this stuff works and now more than ever there is a heightened interest in being trained to articulate your pro life views.

    Posted by: Maria at March 13, 2009 5:21 PM


    Scott Klusendorf just posted that his book: The Case for Life is now out.

    http://lti-blog.blogspot.com/2009/03/case-for-life-is-now-available-sk.html

    Anyone interested in a 3-part challenge?

    1. Let's read the book as an on-line book club.
    2. Cover/debate issues here - in a more formal sense than the usual debate.
    3. Each participant conduct an outside debate, video the debate and post the results on youtube.

    Thoughts?

    Posted by: Chris Arsenault at March 13, 2009 7:58 PM


    Is this the same Serge who had a series some time back about whether contraception was a likely enough abortifacent to expend significant energy opposing? I wish I could remember where that was.

    Posted by: Alexandra at March 13, 2009 8:09 PM


    These points are presented in a succinct manner. I really admire what theyve done here. It actually almost makes me want to not post anymore because these people make most of my points already and they do it better. Id like to see an article discussing how neglect functions into abortion, but otherwise this is all pretty solid.

    I did not see an article specifically addressing the concept of bodily domain. I may have overlooked something. Anyone care to link me?

    Posted by: Oliver at March 13, 2009 8:31 PM


    Right now I am reading Prolife Answers to ProChoice Arguments by Randy Alcorn. Has anyone else read that?

    Thanks Bobby for the awesome info!!

    Posted by: Carla at March 13, 2009 10:08 PM


    Posted by: Alexandra at March 13, 2009 8:09 PM
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    Alexandra - IIRC actually Serge made the case, that as it stands, the Pill couldn't be conclusively be called an abortifacient, using medical journals and sound reasoning.

    Posted by: Chris Arsenault at March 13, 2009 10:13 PM


    Posted by: Oliver at March 13, 2009 8:31 PM
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    Oliver - Francis Beckwith addresses Bodily Domain (responding to Thompson McDonaugh (sp?) and Boonin. TMB) the violinist argument. All the folks at LTI are well versed in that argument. Francis Beckwith used to work with Scott K. at Stand to Reason, along with Greg Koukl, who also has considerable skill when it comes to the abortion issue.

    http://www.str.org/

    Posted by: Chris Arsenault at March 13, 2009 10:18 PM


    "the violinist argument."

    I always wondered at how reasonable people could create this argument.

    Ill check out the site. Thanks!

    Posted by: Oliver at March 13, 2009 10:23 PM


    Hey Chris,
    I just finished a course called Tactics in Defending the Faith with Greg Koukl. Great stuff!!

    Posted by: Carla at March 13, 2009 10:34 PM


    Carla, I have read that book.

    Posted by: YCW at March 14, 2009 6:07 AM


    Oh okay, Chris, then it is the same Serge? I couldn't seem to find all of his great work on that, so I wasn't sure.

    Posted by: Alexandra at March 14, 2009 6:27 AM


    If a pro-choicer is still 'pro-choice' after seeing images of slaughtered unborn babies, what argument is going to change their minds..

    Posted by: Jasper at March 14, 2009 7:56 AM


    Jill,
    Thank you for the very kind remarks about my work with LTI and my new book, "The Case for Life." Rich Poupard (Serge) and Jay Watts are making a huge contribution on our podcast as well. (To give credit where it is due, Rich thought up the idea of the podcast and produces it each week. How he does it between surgeries, I'll never know.)

    You own work, Jill, is extremely helpful to the pro-life cause. You keep us informed about rumblings in the press and sound the alarm when abortion-choice politicians want to give us the shaft. Your blog deserves all the praise it gets!

    As for Serge and the abortifacient nature of EC, his point is very modest. He (rightly) points out that since we don't have certitude that the pills are abortifacient, we shouldn't overstate our case. Instead, we should wait for more evidence. While we wait, there is nothing wrong with stating that we should err on the side of caution and not use the pills because they may take a human life. After all, if you are driving home at night and see what looks like an old coat in the road, but it could be an old drunk, you err on the side of caution until the facts become clear. Sounds like good advice to me.

    Keep up the great work, Jill. And thank you!

    Posted by: Scott Klusendorf at March 14, 2009 8:57 AM


    Alexandra,

    "Is this the same Serge who had a series some time back about whether contraception was a likely enough abortifacent to expend significant energy opposing? I wish I could remember where that was."

    As Chris said above, yes. But if you want more information, Serge talks about this towards the last 10 or so minutes on the first (or second?) podcast. Check it out. God love you.

    Posted by: Bobby Bambino at March 14, 2009 9:24 AM


    Oliver,

    "It actually almost makes me want to not post anymore because these people make most of my points already and they do it better."

    I know! Isn't it ridiculous? It is nice to have people like LTI to humble me when I begin to think I have these great arguments.

    Posted by: Bobby Bambino at March 14, 2009 12:40 PM


    Thanks for this info, Bobby! I will be checking out the site when I have time. Sounds like a great one. :)

    Posted by: Kel at March 14, 2009 3:40 PM


    Posted by: Scott Klusendorf at March 14, 2009 8:57 AM
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    Scott proves once again why he's the master at debating this issue - and provides a great lesson in his response:

    - Keep to solid facts on refutations.
    - State counterpoint: (we should err on the side of caution).
    - Illustrate your counterpoint. ("what is it?" a drunk in road?)
    - Do so in a winsome manner.

    It'd be great if we all had that kind of humble, yet effective approach, because those who've spent time learning under Scott (such as Steve Wagner of JFA) are producing solid impacts:

    http://laurenjfa.blogspot.com/2009/03/university-of-texas-san-antonio.html

    Posted by: Chris Arsenault at March 14, 2009 4:05 PM