Healthcare fight "furious": today's the day to burn the phone lines

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The above Boston Globe photo is of TX Congressman John Culberson yesterday, tossing Pelosi's 2k page healthcare bill into an opposition crowd. Reports the Globe...

The sweeping health care overhaul package before Congress is under an 11th-hour attack over a pair of emotional issues, abortion and immigration, that are complicating Democrats' efforts to piece together the coalition they need to pass the bill.

Veteran lawmakers said they were confident they could add wording to ease the worries of colleagues and interest groups...

But with the House scheduled to vote on the health care package tomorrow, members of Congress are being inundated with complaints from constituents about hot-button social issues the lawmakers say are not even related to a bill that will affect 1/6 of the nation's economy. Thousands of protesters, many of them carrying signs against abortion or illegal immigrant health care coverage, gathered at the Capitol yesterday demanding that Congress "kill the bill,'' and many visited their congressmen's offices yesterday to voice the same opinion.

In an article entitled, "Temperatures rising on healthcare," The Hill reports this morning the pressure is INTENSE on pro-life Democrats to support Pelosi's healthcare bill:

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The abortion compromise was turning into a contest of wills, with the US Conference of Bishops on one side and Pelosi, a devout Catholic [?!] and a supporter of abortion rights, on the other.

Ellsworth said at least 3 Democratic abortion-rights opponents have agreed to support his language, but many others won't because the bishops don't support it.

"Other members felt like they needed the... blessing of the Catholic bishops," Ellsworth said.

And the bishops, whose representatives he met with Thursday morning, are insisting on an amendment authored weeks ago by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI), which would block any subsidies from paying for abortion....

Meanwhile the phony pro-life Ellsworth amendment "has sparked a furious backlash among national, state and local anti-abortion groups who typically support Ellsworth," according to the Courier Press, a paper in Brad Ellsworth's IN district. Here's a photo from the paper (click to enlarge)...

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The Hill is updating a list of Democrats moving from the no to yes to maybe column and back again on healthcare.

Today's the day to call. Tomorrow's the vote. We can do this. Call your congressperson at both his or her district and DC office. Use the online congressional directory to find your rep and phone numbers or call the Capitol Hill switchboard at 202-224-3121.


If you can get to the local office of your congressman/woman, do that! Pay a personal visit to the office to tell them in person that you oppose H.R.3962. A personal visit has even more impact!

Posted by: Eileen at November 6, 2009 8:09 AM

I just called my congressman.

Posted by: Lauren at November 6, 2009 8:22 AM

Posted by: Bystander at November 5, 2009 7:54 AM

"I understand Boo Hoo Beck is in the hospital and needs someone who is adept at paranoid crazy talk to take over his show. Ken should audition."


Just because quisling apologists and apathetic appeasers attempt to divert attention from the present reality by falsely saying I am paranoid does not mean, the Jew hating mass murderers and serial killers are not out to destroy all of us.

Ft. Hood suspect reportedly shouted `Allahu Akbar'

FORT HOOD, Texas – Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.

Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

"He said Muslims had a right to attack" the U.S., said Col. Terry Lee, who worked with Hasan at the Texas post, where the devout Sunni Muslim refused deployment. "He said Muslims shouldn't be fighting Muslims," he added. "He was very clear on that."

This summer, Lee says he overheard Hasan praise the Muslim who shot two soldiers at a military recruiting station in Little Rock, Ark.

"He was happy" about it, Lee said in an interview with Fox News. "He said 'Maybe we should have more of these people. Maybe people should strap [on] bombs and go into town squares.'"


It seems the conservative christians are not the only ones clinging to their God and their guns.

But the Jew hating mass murderers and serial killers are actually using their guns in the name of their god to kill indicriminately.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at November 6, 2009 8:25 AM

Posted by: kbhvac at November 6, 2009 8:29 AM

Lauren, great news! I made one of my calls, to my rep's DC office. My district office isn't open yet.r

Posted by: Jill Stanek Author Profile Page at November 6, 2009 8:38 AM

I called too, and urged passage of the strongest possible health care reform bill.

Posted by: Hal at November 6, 2009 9:07 AM

Hal, how do you define "strongest possible"? The one that gives government micromanaging jurisdiction over the most areas of your life? What has the government ever run that has not been riddled with corruption, fraud? Bureaucratic disputes and delays become deadly when government decides who will have what procedures/tests/surgeries and/or treatments.

Last night at the gas station, two customers in front of me pointed out to the clerk that the flavored tobacco products on display were now outlawed, and did she know that? They can sell what they have, but can't order any more. As one put it, "Yeah, Obama did that and they're trying to go after alcohol, too." Both of these gentlemen had an excess of pigmentation, as Ken would say, and their tone suggested this new legislation was going too far. I wonder if BO wanted to smoke flavored tobacco, it he would be exempt?

Posted by: klynn73 at November 6, 2009 9:19 AM

Oops, that's corruption *and fraud (I originally had more to the list, I wasn't calling you a fraud, Hal! LOL, the trouble typos can cause.

Posted by: klynn73 at November 6, 2009 9:22 AM

At this point, I almost want it to pass just so Hal can have to deal with the type of crap the poor unwashed masses like my husband and I get to with the bloated, wasteful, and incompetent Veteran's Affairs Dept.

Posted by: xalisae at November 6, 2009 9:57 AM


As an Army veteran whose been stationed overseas (even more limited options) I have firsthand knowledge of the system. Expecting my first, I never saw the same doctor twice (continuity of care is important) even after being hospitalized following a car accident at 7 months. You get whatever doctor is ready to see you and, as you likely know, there is no such thing as a malpractice suit, no matter the gross incompetence one may be subjected to! I don't think there'll be enough satisfaction in the told you so, Hal to make up for the havoc this "health care" bill will wreak on our country. Thanks to your hubby for his service, and you & your family's sacrifice, too.

Posted by: klynn73 at November 6, 2009 10:10 AM

Mike Soraghan at The Hillis woefully mistaken calling Ms. Pelosi a devout Catholic. The Church does not support abortion. There's a good chance (considering his last name) that he is Irish and was born Catholic. He should know better.

Posted by: Janet at November 6, 2009 10:13 AM

And thank you as well. He doesn't even want to watch the news anymore, seeing all the hard work he and his fellow soldiers did being undone by turning over the country to the Iraqis before they were fully prepared. He was becoming so proud of his service and his country, and now his reason for this pride is being slowly eroded every day. The Obama administration makes me sick in every aspect of their horrible performance. "Healthcare reform" is just the tip of my dissatisfied iceberg. At least I got to talk to the Gallup people last night for one of their polls. That was cool.

Posted by: xalisae at November 6, 2009 10:25 AM

Did you see the WHOLE statement about the Ft Hood shooting? Three minutes into his comments, a shout out & he THEN addresses it...

What a pathetic empty suit.

Posted by: klynn73 at November 6, 2009 10:42 AM

Am I ever glad Mr. Culberberson is my Representive. That picture is amazing-massive props to the photograper who took that picture.

Posted by: Stephanie at November 6, 2009 10:52 AM

I've emailed my rep with a couple of different pro life groups' messages. I may try to call his local office, too. I am sure I can count on him because unlike PELOSI, my rep is a Devout Catholic (and father of 5 daughters) and very pro life.

This health care bill would force those who take the government health care to pay an ABORTION PREMIUM even if they don't want to!

How do you think a post abortive woman would feel if she was forced to pay for abortions? And I mean one that DEEPLY regrets her abortion(s)?

The elderly, disabled and unborn are at risk even more so here if this bill passes.

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 6, 2009 11:07 AM

Hey Xalisae. How are you and your family doing? You have been in my prayers, I sincerely mean that. I did not know your husband had served in Iraq. Thanks for his and your service and sacrifice. I am sure then that you know all about "government-run healthcare" and could educate us on how "efficient" it is. Thanks for your post. I believe God wants to show his love to you and your family. Take care.

Posted by: Prolifer L at November 6, 2009 11:22 AM

I've called my rep. One of the first times in my life I've done so. I didn't rant, didn't rave, but respectfully requested that he not support it, and stated why. As a whole, I think he will ignore it. On the other hand, he is a freshman Dem from Virginia whose district just dumped out the incumbent Democrat in the State legislature.

Posted by: Michael at November 6, 2009 11:41 AM

Thank you so very much, L. He actually completed 2 tours in Iraq, he left for his second when I was about 8 months pregnant with our son, so he wasn't able to be here for his birth and it was very hard for us all. Things are not as bad as they were, but will get much better if the VA could ever get their act together. My experience with government-provided ANYTHING is 9 times out of 10 quite negative. I wish the people were better able and willing to solve problems themselves.

Like, with unemployment, I read an article yesterday that was about how many companies who are looking can't find people to fill positions yet there are so many people looking, and then when they got the actual quotes from the HR people whining about how they can't find people to fill their positions, all they can do is bellyache that nobody who applies for a position has experience in that position. WELL DUH, YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THEM FIRST AND TRAIN THEM, IDIOT! If they meet all other requirements, hire them and train them! You can't complain that nobody has experience when you won't let them get experience! UGH. Has everyone just lost their minds? I swear! They want the wheels greased for them so they don't have to do their jobs. This is a highly disturbing yet prominent pattern I've been noticing in just about everything lately. People have gotten so comfortable they think they can be picky about everything to the extreme, and I don't know how we're going to make it if these attitudes persist.

Posted by: xalisae at November 6, 2009 12:01 PM

I called my Rep's local office. I am pretty sure I can count on him, as he is an authentic Catholic, father of 5 daughters and pro life. Told the girl who answered the phone that I need him to vote NO on the closed rule and Yes to the Stupak-Pitts amendment. Also said to vote NO to the overall health care bill.

2000 pages is ridiculous. Forcing taxpayers to pay for abortions is ridiculous. How about pre natal care? Is there ANY mention of prenatal care?

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 6, 2009 12:03 PM

As a Canadian, I can't phone any congressman, but I do wish Americans all the best as they try to avoid a repeat of Canada's disaster.

Mark Steyn says that any country that starts a national health care system becomes permanently socialist. There is no going back. The Democrats are extremely far-sighted in this regard, not for the sake of Americans but for the sake of Democrats. If they succeed, they win big in the long term even if they lose big in the short term.

The health care bill is not really about health care. Ms. Pelosi is trying to do for the Democrat party what Prime Minister Joseph did for Pharaoh when he took over all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh. No wonder that Pharaoh was pleased with Joseph! One difference, however, is that Joseph created savings instead of debt. Another difference is that the property the Democrats are seizing control of is the American's body, not his real estate. (A later Pharaoh would make Joseph's descendants his slaves, anyway.) Obamacare is really a form of slavery, something even worse than a forced wealth share system.

Of course, pro-lifers already know that no health care system deserves to be called such if it allows forced abortion. Many Democrats are willing to steal, lie, and even KILL! (premeditated murder)--and all to further the ambitions of the Democrat party. Pilate thought he could wash his hands in innocence, but Ms. Pelosi's Democrats say, "The children's blood be on YOU! (through your taxes). And on your surviving children." Democracy--we get the leaders that we deserve. And now even the United States of America, still leaders in the free world, are implementing hell care.

One congressman yesterday related the anecdote about Mr. Reagan's famous demand: "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" He then concluded, "Ms. Pelosi, tear up this bill!" And, as many Americans have said, men as well as women, "Ms. Pelosi, keep your hands off our bodies!" And, as prolifers here will add, "Ms. Pelosi, keep Planned Parenthood's hands off our children's bodies!"

Posted by: Jon at November 6, 2009 12:15 PM

Thank you Jon for your comments, I appreciate you giving us your perspective as a Canadian and what this so called "healthcare reform really means. I think I like what you said about "hell care", it really fits this bill.
My husband called our representative to ask him to vote no on Obama-Pelosicare and yes to the Stupak amendment. They would not take his name and I emailed our representative as well.

Xalisae thanks for your info on VA healthcare, it helps to know what would happen to us if this terrible government takeover happens. I truly pray it will not pass.

Posted by: Prolifer L at November 6, 2009 12:43 PM

L, it's not just timely and adequate healthcare at which the VA fails. They are inept in everything they do, but what more would you expect from something run by the government?

Posted by: xalisae at November 6, 2009 12:59 PM

X, yep. Between my husband and me, we've had 3 grandfathers almost killed or actually killed by a VA hospital.

Beyond frustrating!

Posted by: Lauren at November 6, 2009 1:16 PM

I agree Xalisae, the government take over is not the solution. They aren't even capable of taking care of the federally run programs they have now, which you know from first hand experience at the VA. Like I said this is really not about healthcare, it is not about taking care of the poor or the uninsured it is about POWER, CONTROL, TRANSFORMING AMERICA, the POWER of LIFE AND DEATH and ABORTION ON DEMAND. This nation can find solutions to helping those who need it without complete government take-over of 1/6th of the US economy, dismantling the entire healthcare system and the government having the power of life and death over our citizens.

Posted by: Prolifer L at November 6, 2009 8:08 PM