The arrest of James O'Keefe

UPDATE, 1/29, 12:46p: James O'Keefe has issued a statement with a great last line: "The public will judge whether reporters who can't get their facts straight have the credibility to question my integrity as a journalist."

UPDATE, 1/29, 7:20a: You gotta watch the explosive interview yesterday about James O'Keefe between MSNBC's clearly biased reporter (as evidenced by his tweets) David Shuster and Big Journalism's Andrew Breitbart. Breitbart shepherded O'Keefe on the release of his ACORN videos and hired him as well. Also at the link is Breitbart's post, "How David Shuster lied to get me to appear on MSNBC." (Video of interview comes at end of post.)

UPDATE, 1/28, 8:20a: Donald Douglas at the American Power blog has more info this morning.

james o'keefe mug shot.jpg1/27, 9:31p: I was shocked yesterday to read pro-life friend James O'Keefe had been apprehended as part of a ring apparently attempting a wiretap LA Senator Mary Landrieu's New Orleans office.

The news was so surreal, indicating such stupidity, frankly, I had trouble believing it. I didn't want to believe it.

And now as the dust begins to settle the 1st version of story appears to have been inaccurate. According to the Washington Post this afternoon...

An earlier Washington Post story incorrectly reported that O'Keefe and his partners were charged with entering the building under false pretenses as part of a plot to bug Landrieu's phone. They are charged with entering the building under false pretenses to commit a felony, but as part of a plot to tamper with Landrieu's phone.

O'Keefe et al are still in very serious trouble, having allegedly committed a crime with a maximum penalty of a $250k and 10 years in prison. But the emerging story makes more sense. Again, per WaPo:

Conservative supporters of O'Keefe claim he and 2 others entered Landrieu's office in an effort to conduct another undercover video sting - to show on video that citizens trying to call the senator's phones to complain could not get through.

james o'keefe short shot.jpg

Two of O'Keefe's partners, prosecutors allege, pretended they were telephone repair workers to get access to the office receptionist's phone, while O'Keefe was inside the office and using a cellphone to record them trying to call the line.

Opponents of the health-care reform legislation had complained earlier this year that they repeatedly heard busy signals when they tried to call Landrieu's office to register their views. In the recent incident, prosecutors allege, both of the men impersonating repair technicians, Joseph Basel and Robert Flanagan, tried to call the unused telephone with their cellphones and Basel stated that he could not get through....

From the Wall Street Journal tonight:

Mr. O'Keefe's father, Jim O'Keefe of Westwood, NJ, said he didn't know what to make of the situation and was looking for more information. "I believe in him. He's an honest kid, a good kid, and he's trying to uncover the facts," Mr. O'Keefe's father said.

People who know the accused men describe them as earnest in their convictions and honest in pursuing them. But some suggested that, if the allegations are true, they might have gone too far Monday.

That's where I'm at on this. I'm still James' friend and am standing by him unless he is proven not to deserve my support.

UPDATE, 9:58p: Actually, I agree with how Andy Moore put it in a comment: "I'll stand by him (not necessarily his actions) even if is proven not to deserve my support. We can all slip up from time to time...." Amen.

[Bottom photo via USA Today]


Comments:

I'll stand by him (not necessarily his actions) even if is proven not to deserve my support. We can all slip up from time to time...

Posted by: Andy Moore at January 27, 2010 9:51 PM


Andy, very well said, and I agree with how you put that.

Posted by: Jill Stanek Author Profile Page at January 27, 2010 9:55 PM


James has more backbone, than some people in Washington! He was doing investagation work, and Since NBC, CBS, and ABC are Obama lovers and to chicken to disobay their god, James has decided to do something, and expose these libs for who they really are!

Posted by: RJ Sandefur at January 27, 2010 9:57 PM


You said some one was video taping? Well, if the video shows him not doing anything wrong, and James is found not guilty, then what? RJ

Posted by: RJ Sandefur at January 27, 2010 10:01 PM


Too bad Mr O'Keefe didn't teach his kid better - trying to uncover the truth is a good thing - but to break the law and lie in the process can't be tolerated, and it is surprising to see folks on this board okay with it. To say that Obama lovers disobay their god, but then say it is okay for somebody to lie (which last I checked is not obeying god) - just doesn't make sense.

Kid did a stupid thing and should get punished. To say anything less is cowardly in my book.

Posted by: Ex-GOP Voter at January 27, 2010 10:03 PM


thanks Jill :)

Posted by: Andy Moore at January 27, 2010 10:03 PM


EGV,

I do not support his attempt at wire tapping but it doesn't change the facts where ACORN is concerned.
Yes he should be punished for illegal wire-tapping if he is indeed found guilty. ACORN should still remain under investigation and denied federal funds.

Posted by: Mary at January 27, 2010 10:25 PM


And I didn't bring up ACORN, nor do I see it as an issue right now. What I see as an issue is that a citizen broke a law. Maybe Mr O'Keefe says he's an "honest kid and a good kid" - and I don't know the guy, maybe he is honest and good. I suppose though if somebody broke into my house or committed a major crime against my family, I wouldn't give a rip if they were "honest and good". You break the law, you pay the price. If he's "honest and good", well, let's change the rules and say you can commit crimes if your parents and various blogs say that you are a good person.

Posted by: Ex-GOP Voter at January 27, 2010 10:31 PM


I too was very shocked!! I was just thinking Oh, wait until Acorn gets a load of this and just as I said that I saw the CEO of Acorn, with a huge smile on her face, saying "Now I want the money that was suppose to go to us". Are you kidding me? What James uncovered, now goes away to never never land?
No,what they uncovered was truth. I agree with Jill, I stand with him(not actions). We all make HUGE mistakes.

Posted by: Pati Adams at January 27, 2010 10:36 PM



ROFLMAO,

Chris Matthews stated tonite that he forgot Obama was black for an hour! These liberals just get more funny. And I thought the MSNBC commentator's remark that the black tea party demonstrators should have been put in front of the TV cameras was a knee slapper.

Well Massa Chris, that was mighty white of you.

Posted by: Mary at January 27, 2010 10:37 PM


EGV,

I do not advocate his breaking the law. I only wish there was this much concern over what ACORN was doing with taxpayer dollars. I hope there is as much call to punish ACORN as there is to punish O'Keefe.

Posted by: Mary at January 27, 2010 10:41 PM


Posted by: Ex-GOP Voter at January 27, 2010 10:03 PM


"To say that Obama lovers disobay their god, but then say it is okay for somebody to lie (which last I checked is not obeying god) - just doesn't make sense."

Kid did a stupid thing and should get punished. To say anything less is cowardly in my book."

----------------------------------------------------

RINO

The jury is still out on James O'Keefe.

O'Keefe only stands accused.

It is not out on you.

If you are striving to be a 'good' christian then I suggest you peruse the 'book' just a tad bit more.

Do a word search on Shiphrah and Puah and let us know what you find.

"Two of O'Keefe's partners, prosecutors allege, pretended they were telephone repair workers to get access to the office receptionist's phone, while O'Keefe was inside the office and using a cellphone to record them trying to call the line."

Remember this is the story as reported in the Washington Post.

It does not say that the men who were pretending to be phone repair men were attempting to tap the phone or bug the office only that they were using the receptionists phone to try and call Landrieu's office and O'Keefe was attempting to film or record their conversation with his cell phone.

I do not know if any of this is 'illegal'. D.C. prosecutors probably go for overkill when they believe the sanctity of a Senators office has been violated, even if it is just the 'outer court'.

I would not be surprised to see that the charges are quietly dropped or reduced to some violation of a vague innocuous city code.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 27, 2010 10:53 PM


Ken:

And let's not forget about Rahab's lie to protect God's chosen ones.

Posted by: Phil Schembri HisMan at January 27, 2010 11:00 PM


We all know that RINO has never exceeded the speed limit, failed to comply with a traffic control device, parked in a handicapped space, driven in the HOV lane when he was the only one in his vehicle, crossed the double white line, changed lanes without first using his turn indicator or failed to wear his seatbelt.

Because to do any of these things would be to violate the 'law' and RINO would never violate the 'law' because the 'law' is sacred and then RINO would have to rat on himself.

I bet RINO tears those tags off pillows and mattresses and he burns his own cd's and downloads copywrite material to his mp3 player.

RINO probably even provides descriptions of professional football games even thought he knows it is strictly prohibited withour the prior written consent of the NFL.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 27, 2010 11:05 PM


Everyone,

Go to the Drudgereport.com to see the Chris Matthews video. Just when you think he couldn't shove his foot any farther into his mouth he does, right up to his knee.

Rush and Sean will have a field day with this one!

Posted by: Mary at January 27, 2010 11:11 PM


Reality Check!

James O'Keefe is

accused

by the lame scream lap dog 'LIBERAL' media.


Take a deep breath and wait for the truth to out.

Reserve judgement, until the evidence supports a verdict.

Think about it. O'Keefe has been around the block a few times.

Do you think he would be stupid enough to knowingly risk his freedom and his reputation just to get another 'gotcha' story?

Do you think James may have done a little due diligence and determined what he could and could not legally do in a U.S. Senator's Washington, D.C. office BEFORE he took action?

Don't fall prey to the insidious ploys of the enemy?

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 27, 2010 11:18 PM


"Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections," Obama said. "Well I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities."

TOTUS from the dire straights of the Union speech

B.O.

Just who exactly funded your presidential campaign?

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 27, 2010 11:27 PM


Jill,

I think Jim and Lila did an outstanding job of outing PP. However, they really need to speak with an attorney before they engage in their stings.

When O'Keefe made his calls from California, was he aware that California is one of the few states in the Union that requires BOTH parties to consent to a taped conversation? Most only require one party consent. This is why YouTube dropped several of their videos, precisely because most of those taped calls were taped illegally.

Also, with his notoriety, he is going to have a harder time pulling off face-to-face sting operations, and actually needlessly puts his life in jeopardy.

Any pro-life attorneys out there want to pitch in and help this kid??

Posted by: Gerard Nadal at January 27, 2010 11:33 PM


@EGV: You're dead right that O'Keefe shouldn't be lying or, even worse, breaking the law in order to uncover things. But at this point, we don't know for sure that his actions were illegal. He's not been convicted.

@Phil: The end doesn't justify the means. Sure, Rahab ended up saving the spies' lives, but that doesn't make the lie itself okay. O'Keefe was already on questionable moral ground when he lied during the ACORN videos. (Although I'm very glad that the information he gathered has been used to expose ACORN.)

Posted by: Courtney at January 27, 2010 11:36 PM


Mary,

Are you aware of any previous President 'beyatch slapin' the SCOTUS in a public forumm, much less a nationally televised address?

Is it too much to speculate that B.O.'s behavior is 'unprecedented'?

B.O. has lost it and he continues to lose it at an alarming rate.

I expect B.O.to pitch a tantrum, gather up his kit and hole up in the oval office and pout like a petulent child.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 27, 2010 11:41 PM


Courtney:

Did I say the end justifies the means? Please don't put words in my mouth, ever.

God allowed what Rahab did to be forever memorialized in the Bible. He must have been pleased with her judgment to honor her faith in a time of great inner turmoil. He also wanted to teach us all a lesson. Why don't you study that scripture in great detail and see what you can glean from it?

She obviously did the right thing in God's eyes, no? Or, I guess He would have preferred that his chosen ones to be murdered by evil people? Please.

Posted by: Phil Schembri HisMan at January 27, 2010 11:49 PM


Posted by: Courtney at January 27, 2010 11:36 PM

I will resist the urge to do an exergesis.

There is an exhortation in the 'book' to expose wickedness.

If an investigative reporter goes underground to get a story is he/she supposed to answer every query by his subject truthfully if doing so will put him/her at risk and prevent him/her from getting the story?

Sometimes you have get down and dirty with the bad guys to win the war.

If we as nation eschew deception as a means to gather information on and from our enemies we will put our not only our saftey and security at risk, but also our very existence.

Making false accusations/perjury is what the ten commandments forbids, not lying.

Murder is what the ten commandments forbids, not killing.

These are distinctions with differences.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 27, 2010 11:54 PM


Yeah, what Ken said.

Posted by: Phil Schembri HisMan at January 28, 2010 1:12 AM


The people defending the jerk's action well you all very sad people and I bet you are all Pro Lifers that just makes me laugh

There is a right wing agenda to all of this and to me you are all nothing better than Nazis

"If there is a gag order against accused phone tamperer James O'Keefe then the once-celebrated conservative activist/journalist/prankster/defendant just might have broken it Wednesday night.

"Govt official concedes no attempt to wiretap," O'Keefe Tweeted a half-hour before midnight.

Wednesday afternoon, NBC News reported that the judge had instructed O'Keefe not to talk about the case."

Posted by: Gerald Horgan at January 28, 2010 3:57 AM


Praying that a positive resolution comes of this for O'Keefe.

Posted by: Janet at January 28, 2010 6:21 AM


I don't get what they were trying to prove. That there was a magical phone that somehow knew whether a conservative was calling? That conservatives were given a bogus phone number? And how can you prove anything by videotaping a phone not ringing while somebody is purportedly calling it? You can't video tape what the number is for that phone.

Posted by: Christina at January 28, 2010 6:44 AM


If O'Keefe's name were Abdul and he were a Muslim who tampered with phones in a Republican's office, I suspect that you O'Keefe defenders would be singing a different tune. Landrieu's office is federal property and if you mess with that, it's a federal offense. She also sits on the Homeland Security Committee and if it can be proven that he intended to tap her phones, there's that aspect to the situation. I'm not suprised that "pro-lifers" would justify breaking the law (rather radical of you!) if it's a pro-lifer who is doing it as many of you actually believe that killing abortion doctors is "justifiable homicide."

"Sometimes you have get down and dirty with the bad guys to win the war"

So Ken supports domestic terrorism. Wonder how much he's kicked into the Scott Roeder defense fund and if he supported Eric Rudolph.

Posted by: Artemis at January 28, 2010 6:58 AM


BTW, I've been searching, on the net, for O'Keefe's expose of gays in the priesthood. I can't seem to find it. Can you provide me a link? Thanks

Posted by: Artemis at January 28, 2010 7:00 AM


"BTW, I've been searching, on the net, for O'Keefe's expose of gays in the priesthood. I can't seem to find it. Can you provide me a link?"

He had plans for that for his next sting operation, Artemis, but now he's arrested so he won't be able to. Too bad.

"Thanks."

You're welcome.

Posted by: Bobby Bambino Author Profile Page at January 28, 2010 7:17 AM


He is inacent until proven guilty! Obama has no respect for the US supreme, because he thinks he's god, and every one should just hand him his cake and eat it to! Hey President Abortion, I mean Obama, That was the most borrowing lame speach you've given to date! RJ

Posted by: RJ Sandefur at January 28, 2010 9:12 AM


News articles mention wiretapping.

Who would shoot video of his pals committing a crime?

Duh.

Bet its a prank for the purpose of bringing media attention.

How best to get the mainstream media to explain the ACORN sting? O'Keefe has huge success in getting his work exposed to people who would have otherwise never heard of his work to bust the polluted ACORN.

Posted by: Pharmer at January 28, 2010 9:41 AM


Posted by: Artemis at January 28, 2010 6:58 AM


"So Ken supports domestic terrorism."

-----------------------------------------------------

arttheemiserly,

I suggest you consult an on-line dictionary and cut and paste and post on this thread the definition of 'domestic', 'terrorism' and 'domestic terrorism'.

This is for your elucidation, not mine/ours.

You are not the first lame leftist lunatic to attempt to associate me with 'terrorism'.

Some thoroughly spiteful feministas in Canada labled me an 'international terrorist' because I had the temerity to cross the border and instruct social activists in Vancouver in the tactics of passive non-violent direct action. (You progressives would know it as a 'sit in'.)

Leo Tolstoy wrote he discoverd the principles of passive resistance in the 'bible'.

Mahatma Ghanda bororowed Tolstoys methods and empolyed them in India against the Brits.

The Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. taught the same methods to civil rights workers in their struggle against bigots in America.

I would lie, deceive, and steal to save an inocent person form being murdered.

I would do so to save one as misguided as you.

I will leave it to the ONE who gives us all life and breath to judge both my motives and my methods and mete to me the justice HE determines.

I have no illusions about some great reward that I might 'earn' awaiting me in the hereafter.

That vain imagining does nothing to constrain or restrain me in the here and now.

I could never possibly do enough good to offset the evil I have already done and neither could you.

But thankfully for me and hopefully someday for you, all my former crimes have been forgiven.

yor bro ken


Posted by: kbhvac at January 28, 2010 11:48 AM


This just in from Thursday, Jan.11, 2010 Dallas Morning News.

page 4A

4 Shared Conservative Views

Suspects in 'Louisiana Watergate' had each written on ideology.

"All four [suspects] were charged with entering federal property under false pretenses [democRATs do this every day] for the purpose of committing a felony."

---------------------------------------------------

Didn't democRAT Senator Mary Landrieu just take a much publicized bribe of 100's of millions of dollars to buy her vote for B.O.'s 'hellth scare' scam?

The article indicates that one suspect was apprehended four blocks away with a listening device that could pick up transmissions.

On Star Trek they were known as 'communicators'.

We know them today as 'cell phones'.

So my question is how did the police locate this one suspect four blocks away?

Maybe it was one the random result of those 'roving wiretaps' designed to protect us from Jew hating mass murdrers.

Or maybe, just maybe, O'Keefe got a little too overconfident and said just enough prior to this under cover operation to bring him to the attention of democRAT operatives in the B.O. administration and they used the resources of the federal government to unlawfully monitor Mr. O'Keefes electronic conversations.

Unless one of the three other suspects immediately rolled over and ratted out the fourth fellow, then how did the police locate this guy four blocks away if he was just operating a remote listening device.

One would have to hope O'Keefe and company would have the good sense to have made some contingencies in the event they were discovered.

One contingency should have been to remain silent and lawyer up.

This all reminds me of a headline I once read:

'Federal Agents Raid Gun Store, Discover Stock Pile of Weapons'

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 28, 2010 12:20 PM


Is this Timothy McVeigh's little brother?

Posted by: Gene Rubin at January 28, 2010 12:33 PM



MSNBC's Chris Matthews: 'I Forgot He [B.O.] Was Black Tonight'...

Chris is probably shocked every morning when he looks in the mirror and sees his pasty white face staring back at him.

I do believe Matthews has a 'male crush' on B.O.

The ms-nbc talk show hosts giddy behavior towards his 'oneness' is more akin to a enfatuated and drunk teenage girl or whitehouse intern.

[Apologies to drunks and teenage girls everywhere. Whitehouse interns,....not so much.]

Chris, is that a banana in your diaper or are you just happy to see B.O.?!?

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 28, 2010 12:38 PM


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/obama_answer_for_america_more_of_1IboSZ3t6WFW12qZnpv10J

Obama's Aswer For America: more of ME

Jonah Goldberg

"There's a story of an ex hausted tenor at La Scala who, facing repeated cries of "Encore," responded that he couldn't go on. A man rose in the audience to say, "You'll keep singing until you get it right."

"That seems to be the defining principle of the Obama administration -- whose response to every problem, every setback, every hiccup and challenge has been, simply, "more Obama."

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 28, 2010 12:43 PM


Let’s face it, all charges will be dropped, because he is poor white trash. This Tuesday, James O’Keefe was arrested by the FBI, for entering a federal property under false pretenses with the intent to commit a felony and maliciously interfering with a telephone system operated and controlled by the United States of America. They were dressed up as telephone company employees with tool belts and fluorescent jackets. It appears to be a bungled attempt to wiretap the office of Democratic Senator Mary Landrieu, in Louisiana and paid by Andrew Breitbart.

Posted by: Milton at January 28, 2010 1:08 PM


So is O'Keefe more or less "dangerous" than that couple who crashed Obama's party and even shook hands with him?

Posted by: Hello at January 28, 2010 2:53 PM


Hello,

I don't believe for a minute this couple "crashed" the WH party any more than I believe some low level flunky in the WH ordered Air Force 1 to joyride over Manhattan.

These people were allowed to bypass the Secret Service,etc. because some higher up, maybe the Obamas or a flunky gave the order. When this serious breach was discovered it spelled trouble. Best strategy is to find another flunky to blame and they will.

Posted by: Mary at January 28, 2010 4:06 PM


Ken 12:38PM

Come on, you gotta admit it was might white of massa Chris to forget Obama's being black. Only a liberal would understand how one forgets someone is black or why this is particularly complimentary, but then I don't understand why being a light skinned Negro who only uses a Negro dialect when necessary makes one a better political candidate either.

Posted by: Mary at January 28, 2010 4:13 PM


"We can all slip up from time to time..."

Intentionally committing a felony is no slip-up. It was a crime, it was dishonest, and most of all, it was a sin.

We went to a) shut off the phone system, or b) wiretap the phones, of a sitting United States Senator, depending on which story turns out to be true.

For shame. And people are calling this a "prank."

Do the crime, serve the time. Looks like it'll be a dime. Oh, I forgive James for this, but breaking the law deserves proper punishment.

Posted by: Jon Quimbly at January 28, 2010 7:33 PM


Posted by: Jon Quimbly at January 28, 2010 7:33 PM


"Do the crime, serve the time. Looks like it'll be a dime. Oh, I forgive James for this, but breaking the law deserves proper punishment."

----------------------------------------------------

Jon,

IF O'Keefe committed a crime and a jury of his peers finds him guilty then he will do the time.

You are jumping to a conclusion based on the ever changing story you read, hear and see.

Tap the breaks on the 'judgement' juggernaut and save yourself some time and engery picking the crow from between your pearly whites.

You are entitled to your almost baseless opinion, but you do not yet have the advantage of all the available facts.

Stay tuned. There is more to come in this little saga.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 28, 2010 8:49 PM


24 year old Robert Flanagan, son of the acting US Attorney for Western LA, William Flanagan (Senator Vitter Held Up Acting U.S. Attorney Flanagan’s Replacement) will more than likely get a plea deal and turn on The other three, too bad.

Posted by: Milton at January 28, 2010 8:55 PM


I do enjoy the restraint - don't judge to judgment until we see if he is guilty in court.

Were the ACORN workers given that same treatment on this board? Just wondering if things were consistent - I wasn't on this board back then.

Posted by: Ex-GOP Voter at January 28, 2010 8:56 PM


Posted by: Ex-GOP Voter at January 28, 2010 8:56 PM

"I do enjoy the restraint - don't [rush] to judgment until we see if he is guilty in court.

Were the ACORN workers given that same treatment on this board? Just wondering if things were consistent - I wasn't on this board back then."

--------------------------------------------------
RINO,

The big difference is O'Keefe provided us with the videotaped conversations with multiple ACORN staffers from mulitiple locations across the country.

The ACORN personel were conistent in their disregard for the law.

We made our judgements based on what the ACORN folks said and did those video tapes.

As one who has had some first hand experience with the liberal/progressives populating the lame scream lap dog media today, I am urging my fellow pro-lifers to reserve judgement til we have some verifiable facts dealing with what O'Keefe and company did or did not do.

Or you can follow RINO's lead and lynch em at sunrise and then give em all a fair trial when you get around to it.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 28, 2010 9:24 PM


"You are entitled to your almost baseless opinion"

Not a bit. It's based entirely on the fact that these boys *confessed* to their crime.

Did you even bother to read the federal agent's *sworn affidavit*, attesting to these facts? It's very damning, precisely because they confessed to felonies.

End of story. There is no more. The pimp-hero has fallen by his own sword. The only way they're getting off is by prosecutorial failure or political favor.

Posted by: Jon Quimbly at January 28, 2010 10:19 PM


Jon Quimbly, from what I've heard, all these four guys did was pretend to be telephone repairmen when in fact they were not. It was a small crime. Apparently they only wanted to know the truth about Ms. Landrieu's phone system.

They didn't blaspheme. They didn't kill anyone (or incite any girlfriend to abort). They didn't rape, sleep with any other man's wife, or otherwise fornicate. They didn't steal anything. The extent of their deception (and it wasn't false witness in a court of law) was a temporary disguise. By slandering them, you are maybe breaking the Ninth Commandment more seriously than they did.

If they did do something more serious, then we do not yet know it. Americans don't assume a man to be guilty until proven innocent, do they?

Posted by: Jon at January 29, 2010 8:32 AM


http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/29/statement-from-james-okeefe/

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2010 11:02 AM


Carol,

For as much as I love the work O'Keefe has done, we in the pro-life community are not a law unto ourselves. This crew has violated a small mountain of laws.

Wiretap laws have been broken.
Privacy laws have been broken.
Government has been obstructed.
Conspiracy has been committed.
Unlawful entry to restricted government property...

The list goes on.

These are all VERY serious crimes. Committed as they were in an environment sensitized to domestic and foreign terrorism, under an administration with a virulent hatred for the pro-life movement, these crimes do not bode well for these young men.

There are intelligent and legal means of accomplishing an investigative sting operation. These young men should have consulted an attorney to ascertain how.

This isn't a bunch of Planned Parenthood coconuts these guys were attempting to nail. This was a United States Senator. This was a transition from sand lot to major league in one jump.

They fell short.

I fear that the Government will stop at nothing to make a severe example of these young men.

Posted by: Gerard Nadal at January 29, 2010 11:35 AM


Jill,

Thank you for posting O'Keefe's comment. He deserves to be heard. What a joke of an interview by David Schuster at MSNBC with Breitbart. MSNBC really blew that one BIG TIME.

Posted by: Janet at January 29, 2010 1:34 PM


Jon and rest of lynch mob

Even if a defendant stipulates to the facts in the case against them, it does not necessarily mean that he/she has actually committed a crime/broken the law.

Sometimes a judge will still dismiss the charges because a necessary element is missing or the law itself was flawed or misapplied. A judge may even dismiss a the charges with prejudice, meaning the prosecution cannot have another bite at the apple.

If the case proceeds to trial, the jurors after hearing all the evidence may find that prosecution did not make their case or that the defendants was not only 'NOT GUILTY', he/she was innocent.

This case is going nowhere or it would have already gone there.

The prosecutors will make these guys lives as miserable as they can for as long as they can, cause they want to deter other like minded citizen journalistsfo from desecrating the sanctity of a Senators office in Washington D.C. and the prosecutors may even have political agenda.

O'Keefe and his band of merry men will be out some money for legal fees and it will take a while to repair their reputation with their base.

You liberal/progressive folks were never going to like them any way.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 29, 2010 2:20 PM


Thanks Carol.

From James O'Keefes latest press release:

"On reflection, I could have used a different approach to this investigation, particularly given the sensitivities that people understandably have about security in a federal building. The sole intent of our investigation was to determine whether or not Senator Landrieu was purposely trying to avoid constituents who were calling to register their views to her as their Senator. We video taped the entire visit, the government has those tapes, and I’m eager for them to be released because they refute the false claims being repeated by much of the mainstream media.

It has been amazing to witness the journalistic malpractice committed by many of the organizations covering this story. MSNBC falsely claimed that I violated a non-existent “gag order.” The Associated Press incorrectly reported that I “broke in” to an office which is open to the public. The Washington Post has now had to print corrections in two stories on me. And these are just a few examples of inaccurate and false reporting. The public will judge whether reporters who can’t get their facts straight have the credibility to question my integrity as a journalist."

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 29, 2010 2:27 PM


I simply shared a link to update the story. I didn't express an opinion at all, so I'm confused by the comment directed at me.

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2010 2:29 PM


Posted by: Gerard Nadal at January 29, 2010 11:35 AM

This isn't a bunch of Planned Parenthood coconuts these guys were attempting to nail. This was a United States Senator. This was a transition from sand lot to major league in one jump.

They fell short.

I fear that the Government will stop at nothing to make a severe example of these young men.

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Gerard,

On this we agree, The government agents will go out of their way to inconvience these young men.

It has more to do with 'messin wit de man', than it does with partisan politics, though I am not excluding the possibiliy that partisan politics may come into play.

You are also making the mistake of assuming that O'Keefe and company did not consult with a lawyer before they embarked on this little adventure.

That is one of many questions that have yet to be answered.

I respectfully suggest you apply some of the same scholarly discipline which you have already demonstrated in your previous postings about subjects with which you are thoroughly familiar.

We are all woefully lacking in facts in this case.

Caution is warranted.

In time the 'truth' will out.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 29, 2010 2:41 PM


Carol,

Don't fret.

To some of our more refined and erudite fellow pro-lifers O'Keefe is like old uncle bob who shows up at funerals, weddings and family reunions and says outlandish things like, "Pull my finger."

In their eyes O'Keefe is an embarassment to them personally and to the whole family.

They just want to shuttle him off to the back room as quickly as possible.

We all need uncles like O'Keefe to keep us from taking ourselves, our reputations, and our movements too seriously.

yor bro ken

ps: Do NOT pull uncle Bob's finger.

Posted by: kbhvac at January 29, 2010 2:51 PM


Thanks. :-)

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2010 3:09 PM


Ken,

If they did consult with an attorney, then it's far worse than if they hadn't. I simply cannot imagine an attorney not running down a laundry list of laws such a plan would involve violating.

That they have not been charged with all of the violations does not mean several laws were not broken. Prosecutors often try a suspect on some charges, waiting to see what kind of verdict is returned. They can always try the remaining charges in case of an acquittal. This allows the prosecutor to:

1. Learn from the jurors the weakness in how the prosecution presented its case.

2. Get a new Jury.

3. Bankrupt the defendant, maybe even assuring that a defendant of more modest means may not be able to aford quality representation the next time around.

I like O'Keefe and what he has done to date. However, I simply cannot fathom that he received legal counsel before proceeding. So many laws were broken here that it's frightening to contemplate.

Then there is the political calculus: Going after a swing Democrat Senator and having to deal with an Obama Justice Department if caught.

These aren't PP coconuts. This was a United States Senator in the age of domestic and foreign terrorism, in a Democrat administration known for literally changing the locks on conference room doors to keep Republicans out.

I should think that an attorney might have pointed this out, followed by suggesting that the phone circuits would be zealously guarded in such a climate.

If they did receive this advice, and proceeded anyway, then they were truly reckless with their futures. They had a better chance of breaking the bank at Monte Carlo.

Posted by: Gerard Nadal at January 29, 2010 3:38 PM


Gerard,

You are basing your belief that O'Keefe violated the law/committed a felony on what you have read, heard and seen in the 'news' or on the 'net'.

You may be correct in your 'opinion' but you may also be just as wrong.

I assure you, you do not yet possess all the facts.

Prov 18:17The first to present his case seems right, till another comes forward and questions him. NIV

The jury is still out literally and figuretively.

Wisdom would advise caution and to wait and watch.

Suggest reading 'Witness' by Whitaker Chambers.

He lays out the game plan pretty well from the whistle blowers point of view.

When you gore the sacred golden calf of the 'establishment' you wake up all kinds of sleeping dogs in the good ole boys/gals club.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 29, 2010 7:45 PM


Gerard,

For a more recent and probably more universally respected perspective and a lot shorter read see:

The Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.'s 'Letter from the Birmingham Jail.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 29, 2010 7:48 PM


Hi Ken,

Funny you should mention that letter, I just posted extensively from it yesterday on my blog in a piece on Mother Teresa.

I'll wait for all of the facts, but this business of dressing up as telephone repairmen while O'Keefe tries to film...It's pretty bad for him legally.

God Bless,

Gerry

Posted by: Gerard Nadal at January 30, 2010 12:09 AM


Lots of backpedaling not only in the press, but from people who support his work, too. Lesson for everyone - just because we *can* say something within seconds of an event (thanks to the internet), doesn't mean that we should.

Posted by: Monica Rafie at January 30, 2010 9:03 AM


Ultimately, Breitbart predicted "there will be tape to vindicate these four pranksters." Yep, the man who previously said O'Keefe deserved a Pulitzer is now calling him a "prankster." How's that for spin?

Enough said

Posted by: Gerald Horgan at January 30, 2010 11:01 AM



NYT Jumps on Arrest of ACORN 'Pimp' - Yet Waited 6 Days to Report ACORN Revelations

By Clay Waters | Thu, 01/28/2010 - 08:52

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs?page=2#ixzz0e81xkOaJ


Are you now beginning to understand the lack of journalistic integrity not only in how they report the 'news', but when or even IF.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 30, 2010 2:15 PM


Posted by: Gerard Nadal at January 30, 2010 12:09 AM


Hi Ken,

Funny you should mention that letter, I just posted extensively from it yesterday on my blog in a piece on Mother Teresa.

I'll wait for all of the facts, but this business of dressing up as telephone repairmen while O'Keefe tries to film...It's pretty bad for him legally.
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Gerard,

We can armchair quarteback in retrosopect but even if they had gone into that office in plain clothes and attempted to do the same thing, the outcome would have been the same once they were discovered.

If they had entered federal property under 'false pretenses', would wearing of the disguises in and of itself constititute the actual criminal act and then satisfy all the elements required to not only justify the charges, but also convince a jury to bring in a guilty verdict?

I just wonder if they hadn't already been in there to get some 'business as usual' video of the phone answering techniques, a 'control' so to speak, and then went back to record how business was actually conducted when they staff thought no one was watching.

People make plans then life happens.

I am just curious to find out how the police located that fellow in the car several blocks away if none of his cohorts rolled over like a whupped dog and ratted him out.

That little tid bit could raise some serious questions about the fed's practices of random monitoring of private electronic communications.

A listening device is passive.

It receives a signal but it probably does not radiate any signal unless it is designed to be turned on and off or change frequencies remotely to avoid security sweeps.

All that aside you do have to see the inherent humor in the wording of the charges as reported in the press: Entering federal property under false pretenses...[What politician, particularly liberal politicians has not done that?]
to commit a criminal act. [Same question.]

Maybe I have watche 200 too many episodes of Law and Order in one of its sundrie permutations.

I guess I may have misunderstood at least one aspect of this case. I mistakenly thought they were in Landrieu's D.C. office.

Turns out they were in Louisianna. That may have some influence as well in how things go.

Lousianna is like another country in some respects.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at January 30, 2010 5:28 PM


Aw, c'mon! These are just a bunch of kids! This is just a harmless school boy prank! You know what they say, don'cha? Boys will be boys!

No doubt about it. It'll be amusing to watch the right wing media trying to spin this latest debacle. Yesterday O'Keefe was the newest Fascist poster boy. Today he is a man looking at a nice stint in federal prison. The Republicans are once again experiencing the kind of OOPS moment for which they have become famous for in recent years. It really is quite touching when you think about it.

Is this merely the tip of a nasty iceberg? Will O'Keefe "cooperate" with federal investigators in order to reduce his sentence? Are there bigger fish that are due some serious frying?

To be continued....

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

Tom Degan

Posted by: Tom Degan at February 1, 2010 5:09 AM


You'd probably get more traffic to your site if you scrawled the url on the nearest bathroom stall wall. I don't think any of us would be interested in the crap you're peddling.

Know your audience, Tom.

Posted by: xalisae at February 1, 2010 1:53 PM


"You'd probably get more traffic to your site if you scrawled the url on the nearest bathroom stall wall. I don't think any of us would be interested in the crap you're peddling."

Dear xalisae,

Very nice comment indeed . I guess you do not believe in free speech or debate on certain topics.

In relation Andrew Breitbart - a hero to the Pro Lifers? Give me a break . Did you know one his 'heroes' Pat Dollard is a drug addict , into making porn videos with himself in them etc. And his friend Matt Drudge who has referred to himself as "Matt Drudge's bitch and of course Andrew Breitbart himself who called the White Supremacist who shot up the Holocaust Museum a "multiculturalist just like the black studies and the lesbian studies majors on college campuses."

Nice guy to have at a dinner party I guess.

Last comment if James O'Keefe is a professional journalist with ethics then I am the Wizard of Oz.
What about the guys that were with him when he got arrested who have connections to the CIA community.

Look forward to your reply

Posted by: Gerald Horgan at February 1, 2010 5:52 PM


Apparently, you have no sense of humor nor do you have a mind capable of processing political satire.

Real people don't have dinner parties, btw. We're too busy doing productive things.

What I object to is a left wing partisan coming here to smear someone from the other side of the isle at a site full of many people from that side of the isle while whoring out his blog to all the other trolls that frequently indulge in their juvenile antics here.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with someone trying to grease the wheels of democracy, since it would appear many on the other side has been enjoying the downtime of the screeching halt they'd been put to last year. It still doesn't change what he uncovered about ACORN. ^_^

Posted by: xalisae at February 1, 2010 6:39 PM


Speaking of ACORN, here's an article about the precedent they have set about the offense of "entering a government building under false pretenses":

biggovernment.com/2010/02/01/possible-okeefe-explanation-he-was-an-acorn-secret-shopper/

If no punishment is good enough for ACORN, it should be good enough for O'Keefe.

Posted by: xalisae at February 1, 2010 6:47 PM


"Real people don't have dinner parties, btw. We're too busy doing productive things."

That's a classic, xalisae! LOL.:)

Posted by: Janet at February 1, 2010 7:29 PM


The truth is slowly coming out .........


Brad Blog (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7675)has been chronicling alleged falsehoods regarding O'Keefe's exposes on ACORN.

You folks do realize that James O'Keefe never actually wore his ridiculous pimp costume into those ACORN offices on those doctored and illegally recorded video tapes, right? But, rather, he was filmed outside of the offices wearing his get-up, while appearing as the conservatively dressed boyfriend of a hooker trying to escape an abusive pimp when the cameras were rolling inside the offices. That's just one of many deceptions O'Keefe carried out."

"Although Mr. O'Keefe appeared in all videos dressed as a pimp, in fact, when he appeared at each and every office, he was dressed like a college student - in slacks and a button down shirt," former MA Attorney General Scott Harshbarger wrote in his ACORN-sanctioned internal review (PDF link - http://www.proskauer.com/files/uploads/report2.pdf)

Posted by: Gerald Horgan at February 3, 2010 1:33 PM


And sadly it gets better and better. James O'Keefe now has racist feelings towards other fellow humans. If you go to bed with the Devil , you too will be tarnished with evil

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/james-okeefe-just-really-likes-white-people

Over on Salon, Max Blumenthal has a nice rundown of ACORN pimp turned failed eavesdropper James O'Keefe and his history of racially-hostile conservative activism. Below are a few highlights

Now an activist organization that monitors hate groups has produced a photo of O'Keefe at a 2006 conference on "Race and Conservatism" that featured leading white nationalists. The photo, first published Jan. 30 on the website of the anti-racism group One Peoples Project shows O’Keefe at the gathering, which was so controversial even the ultra-right Leadership Institute, which employed O'Keefe at the time, withdrew its backing. But O'Keefe and fellow young conservative provocateur Marcus Epstein soldiered on to give anti-Semites, professional racists and proponents of Aryanism an opportunity to share their grievances and plans to make inroads in the GOP.

A bit more

By O’Keefe’s own account, his racial troubles became acute when he entered the multicultural atmosphere of Rutgers University’s dormitory system. In an online diary that has since been scrubbed from the Web (but not before being captured on Daily Kos), he wrote that he was forced to live on an all-black dormitory floor after refusing to live with the gay roommate he was initially assigned. O’Keefe claimed his next roommate was “an Indian midget…who smelled like shit.” The roommate left, however, and was replaced by “a greek kid.” The new roommate complained to a residential administrator that O’Keefe had called his neighbors “niggers,” prompting the school to expel him from the dorm. He rejected the accusation as a “complete lie,” writing, “I was lead out of the room crying and screaming at him and my situation, no friends, no one one [sic] to talk to, forced to go in front of a black man, Dean Tolbert, to defend myself and help explain that I did not call anyone any names.”

Posted by: Gerald Horgan at February 3, 2010 2:39 PM


Racist! Gerald Horgan says O'Keefe is a racist! If all else fails, call your enemy a racist.

Supposing the charge of racism is true--Mr. Horgan doesn't provide much evidence--then were all the videotapes about ACORN a massive deception? Strain out a gnat and swallow a camel.

And shoot the messenger. Hey, Gerald, aren't you a racist?

Posted by: Jon at February 5, 2010 11:04 AM