Many clever political cartoons related to our issues this week...
by Henry Payne of Townhall.com...
by Gary Varvel of Townhall.com...
by John Deering of GoComics.com...
by Jerry Holbert of the Boston Herald...
by Steve Sack of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune...
by Brian Farrington of Townhall.com...
They're all good, but I LOVE the last one, especially. Hypocrisy looks the same no matter what self righteous radical is wearing it.Posted by: Doyle Chadwick at August 30, 2009 7:48 AM
Posted by: Mary
at August 30, 2009 9:17 AM
It looks like that washed up Snow White, Olympia Snow, may again sell out Republicans like she did on the "stimulus package".
The comparison between what Michael Vick did to abortion is not only disingenuous, but ridiculous. Those poor dogs went through prolonged suffering, yet the vast majority of abortions occur in the first trimester ,when the fetus cannot even feel pain yet,because the nervous system is not developed yet.
Abortions take a few minutes at most, while torture, whether animal or human,is prolonged.
And it's far better to go through a brief abortion than to be born into a world of misery, where you will never get decent food,shelter, education or health care. That's what already happens to countless poor children who have been born already. The real hypocrites are thae anti-choicers who care about the fetus only until it's born.
And please don't give me all this garbage about how much conservatives contribute to charities. That's a blatant lie. No anti-choicer has ever improved the lives of poor preganat women .
The late senator Kennedy did more to help the poor in one week of his life than all of you whining anti-choicers have ever done in your lifetimes or ever will.
And if not for his tireless efforts, there would have been an even greater number of abortions in America than there have been since Roe v Wade, which must NEVER be overturned if we are to save the lives of poor women.
"The late senator Kennedy did more to help the poor in one week of his life than all of you whining anti-choicers have ever done in your lifetimes or ever will."
Robert, remember last week when you made a similar ridiculous claim and I asked you for evidence of these and you provided nothing? How about some evidence of this claim? In fact, tell me how one quantifies how much a single person does for the poor so that you can compare quantities. How do you estimate how much an "anti-choicer" does in a lifetime in a reasonable way? How many lifetimes of anti-choicer have been studied so that we know such an estimate is reasonable? I assume these studies that you have in mind have been going on for several generations in order to have any sort of reasonableness to them.Posted by: Bobby Bambino at August 30, 2009 10:59 AM
I know what I did to save a poor person from the evils of abortion-
When I was at my most destitute, I didn't abort/kill my daughter who was also poor by proxy.
What have YOU done, Mr. Berger?Posted by: xalisae at August 30, 2009 11:56 AM
I nominate you the 'drive-by commenter', you come in, spray a bunch of lies, then leave so the rest of us can clean up the mess you made.Posted by: Jasper at August 30, 2009 12:14 PM
Posted by: Robert Berger at August 30, 2009 10:43 AM
"... it's far better to go through a brief abortion than to be born into a world of misery, where you will never get decent food,shelter, education or health care."
Have you ever had an original thought?
Please invest in a thesuarurs find some new synonyms before you post your cut and paste comments.
If the coup de gras is administered quickly and painlessly, without the intended victim being aware in the next moment they will be dead, then it is completely acceptable to murder someone.
So if a some gangbanger sneaks up behind you unoticed with the pistol cocked and blows your brains out thats OK with you.
He will have ensured that you never suffer from lack of "decent food, shelter, education or health care."
Therefore, would his abritrary and capricious act of compassion towards you, been not only acceptable, but gratefully welcomed by you?
yor bro kenPosted by: kbhvac at August 30, 2009 12:18 PM
Would you be in favor of dog owners aborting certain breeds of fighting dogs in order to save them from a life of misery?
If abortion "saves" poor women, are the ones who don't abort STUPID?
Posted by: Robert Berger at August 30, 2009 10:43 AM
"Those poor dogs went through prolonged suffering, yet the vast majority of abortions occur in the first trimester ,when the fetus cannot even feel pain yet,because the nervous system is not developed yet. "
WRONG. Emphasis mine in:
Dr. Sanjay Gupta, director of the Atlantic Pain and Wellness Institute in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, says evidence from neonatal studies shows brain circuits start developing before 29 weeks of age. "It is possible that they are not complete before 29 weeks of age," he explains, "but an incomplete circuit may cause more pain than a complete circuit."...Based on the evidence, Gupta says, "I think it is a wrong presumption that the fetus does not feel pain." And since it is possible that the pain inflicted on an unborn baby during an abortion could actually be worse before the child's brain circuits have completely developed, he contends, "If we have to make an error, we should make an error on the more safe side."
And to err on the safe side, the doctor insists, "would be to try to control the pain -- to presume that they feel pain rather than presuming they don't feel pain -- and try to take precautions. It's as simple as that." There is no reason simply to presume that fetuses don't feel pain before 29 weeks of gestation and therefore "to let them suffer," he says.
Gupta points out that the JAMA article in question was not based on research but was simply an opinion from pro-abortion activists, including one involved with an abortion clinic.
Another poster here has already gone into this about the preemies she cares for in her job. Arguing first trimester abortions are the most common and not prolonged torture does not justify the horrific barbarity abortionists visit upon these little ones who have measurable brain waves at 6 weeks and will respond to a touch on the face at 7. All reflexes? Watch Baby George "test driving" her (turned out George was a girl all along) skeletal muscles at 10 weeks:
unborn.com/footage.html Baby George at 10 weeks
You express compassion for prolonged suffering of dogs. Would that you could find it in your heart to give all humans even half that consideration.
Robert, I challenge you to contact any Pregnancy Resource center at random (there are thousands to choose from) and ask if they have anyone who's availed of their services that would be willing to talk to you. Interview her away from the "evil anti-choicers" if you prefer, and find out what is really being done to help women and children well past birth.Posted by: klynn73 at August 30, 2009 2:09 PM
For the moment, Berger Boy, I'm going to take off the semi-polite moderator hat and call your cowardly bluff:
Bambino said it charitably, but the truth is you have yet to back up any of your claims with unbiased, reliable sources. So who's spreading the lies?
Each time you post your outrageous fantasies, I challenge you to provide evidence, and what? Berger is nowhere to be found. Way to go, marine.
How in your population-controlled mind can anyone with a shred of objectivity take you seriously?
Here's a good one:
"No anti-choicer has ever improved the lives of poor preganat women".
Ever heard of Mother Theresa, champ? How about Fr. Pavone? If you would get off your ego-maniacal high horse and actually do some RESEARCH, you'll find that there are plenty of pro-lifers who DO help poor, pregnant women without resorting to shredding their young, you luminous bulb, you.
Here's one to smoke your pipe on:
My friend Mark has spent the last fifteen years praying in front of abortion facilities. He is godfather to six children that he saved from certain death. Two of those kids, a set of twins, he saved from a drug-addicted mother. He assisted her in relocating up North, helped her with her needs and not her greeds, and today she is clean, has changed her life completely, seeks to live with Our Lord, AND has two gorgeous children to boot. With no assistance from you, thank you very much.
And you want to know something, Berger? Mark continues to sponsor women like her. He refers to them as his "little sisters". He literally begs for donations to help these women, and here's the High Priest of Hypocrisy pontificating to the rest of us that we don't help poor pregnant women.
I had a good mind to remove your juvenile posts, but then I thought the rest of the world needs to read depravity/idiocy in full plumage.
The Berger piece is just a grocery list of pro-choice cliches to designed to bait pro-life folks into wasting their time responding. No one could possibly be as stupid as Mr. Berger pretends to be.Posted by: Joe Stephens at August 30, 2009 5:56 PM
"...far better to go through a brief abortion..." Really, Mr Berger? As a MAN, how many 'brief abortions' have YOU gone through?Posted by: Pamela at August 30, 2009 6:15 PM
I've donated diapers and other baby items to pregnancy centers. I've sent a donation to my local right to life group to help young mothers who need help with rent, etc.
many pregnancy centers have parenting classes. Plus, I am pretty darn sure that those centers who have ultrasound machines NEVER turn the screen AWAY from the mother.Posted by: LizFromNebraska at August 30, 2009 6:24 PM
Maybe you and my husband should sit down for a little chat about how my brief abortion caused my prolonged suffering. How he witnessed YEARS and YEARS of anguish, Mr. Berger.
You have dismissed my grief and pain and said that my child's life meant nothing. My child didn't even mean as much as a dog?! And you claim that WE don't care about women? Look in the mirror, buddy.
You are a troll.Posted by: carla at August 30, 2009 7:42 PM
Are you sure you don't mean "tool," Carla? ;-) As in he's a tool of the pro-choice movement and their half-truths and lies.Posted by: Rachael C. at August 30, 2009 11:56 PM
That's the way! Mr. Berger is a temporary troll in our midst. He showed up recently, comments once or twice and runs away as soon as we request sources. We all know that science is *not* on his side. We know that his words aren't from the Holy Spirit. So, religious or not, Mr. Berger has no solid ground. He is standing on quicksand provided him by such organizations as Planned Parenthood. He is, perhaps, a subscriber to Askmen.com ... But not one of his sources is unbiased or even accurate.
We have seen and debated with those who are using their own brains, who are seeking TRUTH and not convenience. Mr. Berger has proven himself beyond doubt not to be one of these individuals.
Don't allow his hurtful, disingenuous comments to cut through to you. They are lies. They are objectifying lies, created for the purpose of belittling all humans.
Love from our home,
MR :)Posted by: MaryRose at August 31, 2009 12:22 AM
My love to you, MaryRose!
I will stand up for all of my friends that regret their abortions and their children that died by
I find Robert to be completely uneducated about what abortion is really like and how it affects women and men. It is ignorant to think abortion is simple, painless and risk free and that the 3,000 children that die each day mean nothing. Robert has a lot to learn.Posted by: carla at August 31, 2009 5:31 AM
Yes. Tool, Rachael!!! :)Posted by: carla at August 31, 2009 5:32 AM
Robert Berger: "And it's far better to go through a brief abortion than to be born into a world of misery, where you will never get decent food,shelter, education or health care. That's what already happens to countless poor children who have been born already."
...so then, we take it that you favor killing any child currently living in poverty or hunger, as long as it's all over in three minutes? This is not a rhetorical question.
"The real hypocrites are thae anti-choicers who care about the fetus only until it's born."
Nonsense. You can make this claim if and ONLY if pro-lifers favored making the killing of the unborn illegal AND making the killing of born children legal.Posted by: bmmg39 at August 31, 2009 11:11 AM
You know, in a strange way, I find Mr. Berger's nonsense to be comforting. I often wonder how our culture can support the disgusting injustice of abortion. It's become such an institution. At times, it's overwhelming to think about, and I feel so helpless. It's like a gigantic entanglement of deception, confusion, money, half-truths, and politics, and I don't know which knot to try to untie first.
But then Mr. Berger comes along and makes me realize, oh. A lot of people are genuinely walking around with their fingers in their ears, regurgitating dishonest talking ponts and spewing out insults, then shouting "lalala I can't hear you!" when they are confronted with the truth.
Willfull ignorance, that's all it is. And bigotry gets tiresome, and people get curious, and they take their fingers out of their ears and start to listen, then they start to read, and they finally accept the facts. That doesn't seem so impossible to accomplish.
Wow, you accidentally did something kind of productive, Mr. Berger! I'm shocked.Posted by: Janette at August 31, 2009 1:25 PM
We're already seeing the backlash on the abortion industry of years and years of lies. XDPosted by: MaryRose at August 31, 2009 3:35 PM
Agreed. The lies of the abortion industry have been pounded into some heads. It will take some time until it all unravels and people realize they fell hook, line and sinker.Posted by: carla at August 31, 2009 4:18 PM
FYI to pro-lifers and pro-choicers:
A NEW, FREE counseling center, Waterleaf Women's Center, is opening in Aurora, Il in just a few weeks. It's a block away from the Aurora Planned Parenthood abortuary. Counselors at Waterleaf will work closely with Project Gabriel in the area. Their goal is to prevent one abortion per week. Please pray for all those involved and support them if you can!Posted by: Janet at August 31, 2009 4:38 PM
"Their goal is to prevent one abortion per week"
Contraceptives might help with that.Posted by: Hal at August 31, 2009 6:25 PM
You think so, eh? Despite all the substantial evidence to the contrary?Posted by: MaryRose at August 31, 2009 6:28 PM
A woman that is four months pregnant and considering an abortion hardly needs contraception, Hal. :)Posted by: carla at August 31, 2009 8:24 PM
Such great news!! I will be praying that they help spare many women and children!!
Yeah, the point of contraception seems kind of mute when a woman's already pregnant and considering her options. While the pro-choice movement advocates for more contraception to prevent unplanned pregnancies, they fail to address the needs of women who are already pregnant, other than offering them a "quick" an' "easy" abortion.
Posted by: Rachael C.
at August 31, 2009 11:03 PM
Lol Carla! :)Posted by: MaryRose at September 1, 2009 1:11 AM