Re: first comic

So true. The Democrats' plan to make health care affordable for everyone will save hundreds of babies from needless neonatal death. Anyone who loves babies should vote for Obama.

Rally Congress around Philip Berg

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/

WWW.OBAMACRIMES.COM

Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court as Obama is "NOT" qualified to be President of the United States Lawsuit Against Obama Dismissed from Philadelphia Federal Court

For Immediate Release: - 10/25/08 - Contact Info at end.
UPDATE: Ruling attached at end. It's a really poor copy, but it is all we have for the moment. Willl put up a better copy when we get one.

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/25/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that he is immediately appealing the dismissal of his case to the United States Supreme Court. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.

We must legally prevent Obama, the unqualified candidate, from taking the Office of the Presidency of the United States,” Berg said.

Our website obamacrimes.com now has 71.8 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website – and forward to your local newspapers and radio and TV stations.

Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.

8 States Threatening To Remove Obama From Ballot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPG8bZ8rZmI
WWW.OBAMACRIMES.COM

Yes, reality - when the entire nation is one big slum just like every Democrat-controlled city in America, we'll save a lot of babies. "Save" them from the hard life they would have had to live. Isn't that how you pro-aborts usually phrase it?

FLOOD GRETA's AND HANNITY'S EMAIL.

THEY MUST INTERVIEW PHILIP BERG NOW!!!!

THIS STORY MUST BE BROKEN TO THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA!!!!

IT IS TIME FOR ALL GOOD AMERICANS TO COME TOGETHER TO PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTION!!!!

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SEND 100,000 EMAILS!!!

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Re: second comic.

Indeed, but Repubicans are by no means different. Deficit financing, which the Republicans have been the kings of lately, results in the devaluation of the Dollar, higher interest rates, "bracket creep" for taxes, and higher costs for us all, which combine into a massive indirect tax.

"Yes, reality - when the entire nation is one big slum just like every Democrat-controlled city in America,"

What Democrat controlled city is one big slum? Was this country one big slum during the Clinton administration? Well whatever, I live in the woods, we don't have slums there. Opossums, but no slums.

Plus I'm poor. What can anyone tax me on?

"Yes, reality - when the entire nation is one big slum just like every Democrat-controlled city in America,"

What Democrat controlled city is one big slum? Was this country one big slum during the Clinton administration? Well whatever, I live in the woods, we don't have slums there. Opossums, but no slums.

Plus I'm poor. What can anyone tax me on?

John do you know why there are slums to begin with?

Doug:

You miss the point totally by forgetting something that happened on September 11, 2001. Bush inherited a Bill Clinton recession, and then we were attacked by terrorosits that were emboldened by an immoral leader in Billy boy. Should Bush have done what BO now wants to do? Retreat, tax, spend, gut the military, promote welfare, ad infinitum? This will create more terror and wreak more havoc on our country. Yes, an Obama preidency will cause God to lift his hand of protection from this country. For once, Joe Biden was right about what would happen during a BO administration.

Had Geroge Bush simply been a Democrat and the current Congress GOP controlled, you and the media would be saying how great George Bush was for bringing us out of that dark day, how he kept us safe for 7 years, how we were winning the war in Irag and that the Republican controlled Congress was at fault for everything.

It is so hyprocritical it makes me want to puke.

And if Obama didn't have the socialist media on his side and if the media was doing it's acred duty, Obama wouldn't even be a factor.

"The Democrats' plan to make health care affordable for everyone will save hundreds of babies from needless neonatal death"

That's great, reality. But how will it help those who have already been killed in the womb?

Reality:

Affordable Healthcare is an oxymoron.

Tell me where exactly do you cut costs?

Pay doctors less? Lower malpractice insurance premiums? Reduce the cost of maintenance and construction of medical facilities? Pay nurses less? Have drug companies reduce the cost of medication? How do you do this except by dictatorial power? Who then will stay in the medical profession, build hospitals, insure doctors, invest in drug research? I'll tell you who....nobody.

As is so typcial of all your posts they are anything but reality. These things only exist in your mind. The sad part of this is that Democrats, even though they know what they say is bogus, are willing to tell you what you want to hear so that you, an unthinking person, will vote for them, when they know they can't do a thing to lower health care costs.

So, while health care may be a challenge for some, in the Liberal way of thinking, let's make it miserable for everyone, of course, instead of the super rich.

Perhaps someday when you grow up you will realize this or, become so cynical, that you cave completley to Liberalism and becomes just like them, willing to exchange truth for lies because you won't be able to discern the difference.

It is so hyprocritical it makes me want to puke.

And if Obama didn't have the socialist media on his side and if the media was doing it's acred duty, Obama wouldn't even be a factor.
Posted by: HisMan at October 26, 2008 9:58 AM

Oh brother. The corporate media is, for once, acting in the best interest of the country and supporting the one man who can really help us. That's not bias, that's patriotism.

Well gee HisMan, since you're such a bastion of intelligence and wisdom, how do you propose fixing the way healthcare is done in the US? Obviously it's not working well because many Americans are not getting the care they need due to lack of preventative care. This is evidenced by the ridiculously high charges for ER visits that are given to those WITH insurance because ERs need to get the money they aren't getting from uninsured patients who go to ERs to get medical care?

I'm still on my parents' insurance and I had an accident nearly 3 months ago which entailed me going to the ER and it cost nearly $6000.00. I had surgery 2 years ago which involved an overnight stay in the hospital, general anesthesia, and the surgery itself which cost ~$10,000. I was in the ER for 6 hours for nothing more than a dislocated elbow and it cost $6000, where as my surgery was a reconstructive procedure required an overnight stay and was $10,000.

How do you propose we fix the healthcare crisis?

Jess:

I love animals too.

However, your views are extremely unhealthy and unbiblical.

Stop obsessing on animals will you and get some help.

Matthew 15:10-11 "10Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. 11What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' "

Rae,

Are you saying your parents insurance didn't cover the trips to the ER? or the hospital stays? not even 80%... sounds like you have a bad insurance plan.

whoa, those costs are insane!

$6000 for a dislocated elbow?

My concern with "universal health care" is that those who REALLY need care (for example: cancer patients or families with children that have special medical needs) will not be given the care they need. My doctor's office copay is currently $10. It could go up to more than that. I wear eyeglasses and my yearly visit still costs me w/ insurance, at least $90.

There has got to be a BETTER solution than 'universal health care'.

I also don't want universal health care to refuse to help pay for a cancer drug or chemo, but offer to pay for physician assisted suicide. That's what's happening in OREGON, folks.

And Hawaii dropped their children's universal health care which was meant to help poor families, because those who could afford insurance were taking advantage of it.

@Jasper: No, I actually have very good insurance (Blue Cross/Blue Shield) but I saw the bills that were sent to my insurance and for my accident I got the bills directly from the hospital- it was an accident that occurred at work and was therefore covered under worker's compensation but I didn't have my worker's compensation information at the time of my accident and subsequent hospital stay.

Well Gee Rae, thanks for asking. Is this the frist time you visited this site because we have been telling you pro-abort Liberals how to fix just about everyhitng is this country.

Proverbs 14:33-35 "33 Wisdom reposes in the heart of the discerning and even among fools she lets herself be known. 34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.
35 A king delights in a wise servant, but a shameful servant incurs his wrath." (like in one Barack Obama).

Here's a solution, not only to curing healthcare, but the whole country. I say we start obeying God and let him worry about he results. This takes great faith though and it's up to people of faith to shout this from the rooftops.

1. Eliminate legalized abortion.
2. Eliminate the 501c3 muzzle on churches.
3. Put God back in schools.
4. Put homosexaulity back where it belongs, it the garbage dump.
5. Start telling the truth that sin leads to death but God leads to life.
6. Eliminate all government welfare.
7. Shift the social challenges of poverty, drug abuse, prostitution and homelessness to the church and away from the government.
8. Strengthen the military to the point whre no godless nation of Islam will ever threaten us again.
9. Eliminate income taxes and institute a consumption tax.
10. Encourage individual saving.
11. Encourage tithing to the church and synagogues.
12. Eliminate taxpayer fnding of all organizations like NARAL, NOW, and the ALCU and Planned Parenthood.
13. Define consitutionally marriage as between a man and a woman only.
14. Make the press accountable for the lies they tell.

You get the picture don't you?

Actually, we are near the end of Liberalsm in this country as it's destructive effects are now being reaped. When the pain fo bearing Liberalism exceeds the pain of changing, guess what, we will cahnge. People are being forced to their knees in repentance as we speak and this will become a flood as the economic collapse of 2009 intensifies.

@HisMan: You did not answer my question. At all.

HisMan: You miss the point totally by forgetting something that happened on September 11, 2001. Bush inherited a Bill Clinton recession, and then we were attacked by terrorosits that were emboldened by an immoral leader in Billy boy.

The economic effects of the 9/11 attack are small potatoes, tiny, in fact, compared to the red ink run up by Republican administrations going back to Reagan (Ford didn't do too bad).

It wasn't a "Clinton recession" any more than Bush Jr. is simplistically "to blame" for our current downturn.
.....

Should Bush have done what BO now wants to do? Retreat, tax, spend, gut the military, promote welfare, ad infinitum? This will create more terror and wreak more havoc on our country. Yes, an Obama preidency will cause God to lift his hand of protection from this country. For once, Joe Biden was right about what would happen during a BO administration.

That's a mixture of speculation and your unprovable beliefs.

Contrast that with the fact of the incredible, heinous Republican fiscal irresponsibility of the last almost 30 years.

I am not saying the Democrats are blameless, nor that "taxing," per se, is any necessary answer. Yet spending without taxing is often worse than taxing and spending, and that has been a Republican penchant of late.
.....

Had Geroge Bush simply been a Democrat and the current Congress GOP controlled, you and the media would be saying how great George Bush was for bringing us out of that dark day, how he kept us safe for 7 years, how we were winning the war in Irag and that the Republican controlled Congress was at fault for everything.

No, I'd be noting that the President is not all-powerful and far from the "controller" that some people seem to think, as far as being "blamed" for stuff. There is Congress, and both parties have done badly, there. Reagan, to his credit, did well for the first two years, trying to slow the growth of gov't, though after that he totally caved in and the national debt ran up as never before.

The truth is that neither Obama or McCain can do much about the current fiscal mess.

Yeah HisMan I love babies but I don't have a problem aborting them. And maybe you should should get some help, the way you obsess over everyone's hymen.

Here read your Bible:
Job Chapter 12 verse 7 and Plasm 137:9.

And Hisman I think it's more unhealthy to eat something that has lived it's whole life in its own urine and feces. Of course you have no idea where the meat you eat comes from.

I'll post this anyways even though I know you won't watch it. You're too "macho" for the truth right?
http://www.meat.org/
And about factory farms, I'm sure Jesus would give a big thumbs up to sexually assaulting pigs and then eating them. Yep. That's what Jesus was all about.

"· A supervisor sexually assaulted a sow with a cane and told an investigator to assault a pig with his fingers or male organ to make her move. That supervisor admitted that he jams rods into pigs' rectums."

http://getactive.PETA.org/campaign/iowa_pigfarm_abuse

Really healthy and biblical there Hisman. Is this what you do Saturday nights?

Lol, after Hisman was done with his "date" Jasper ate it.

Geez.... Jess, don't you think that's a bit much?

Agreed that the meat industry has some nasty stuff in it, but why so personal?

Well Doug, since Amanda isn't here right now : )

HisMan,

This morning, a priest on Relevant Radio used a term I haven't heard before - "holy boldness" - preaching the truth however unpopular it might be. God bless you for your "holy boldness".

Do I have "holy boldness" too Janet?

Jess,

That's not meant to be a joke, dear.

HisMan,

Rae isn't a pro-abort. Liberal, maybe...but pro-abort..I'd say no.

And really..you still didn't answer her question. Just pray about it everybody and God will take care of your healthcare. Are you SERIOUS?

What does homosexuality have to do with HEALTHCARE? What does the definition of marriage have to do with HEALTHCARE?

I think you just must put your fingers in your ears, and yell really loud, "La la la, I can't hear you!!!"

That must be the only way you get through the day.

Well Doug, since Amanda isn't here right now : )

:: laughing ::

Oh Jess...

P.S. Do beer and viagra mix?

Doug, I figure you'll like this one:
http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?src=rss&id=823

From this week's "Pittsburgh Catholic", which is one of the oldest Catholic newspapers in America. This is part of the "voting guide" they publish before every election. I think you all might like to see what they have to say about Obama on three particular issues:

SEN. BARACK OBAMA
2008 DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE

ABORTION

Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign Web site says he is “a consistent champion of reproductive choice and will make preserving women’s rights under Roe v. Wade a priority as president.” In the Illinois State Senate, he opposed SB 1082 which would have granted that “a live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law.” www.ilga.gov

He also co-sponsored the federal Freedom of Choice Act, a bill that would make partial-birth abortion legal again, provide for taxpayer funding of abortion, and invalidate every state and federal limitation on abortion. www.barackobama.com

EDUCATION/SCHOOL CHOICE

“Sen. Obama has always been a critic of vouchers… Throughout his career, he has voted against voucher proposals and voiced concern for siphoning off resources from our public schools.” Obama’s education agenda “does not include vouchers, in any shape or form.” Statement to Education Week, Feb. 20, 2008

RELIGIOUS LIBERTY

At a speech to the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, Sen. Obama said, “the first thing I’d do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.” July 17, 2007, www.imoneinamillion.com (One Million for Planned Parenthood)

The National Organization for Women Web site says the bill “would sweep away hundreds of anti-abortion laws” including “conscience” laws that allow health care providers to decline to provide or perform abortions. www.now.org

The bill (S. 1173) would invalidate every state and federal limitation on abortion.

I know Janet I wasn't joking.

Hello all. GOOOOOOO McCain and Palin!!

NEEEEERRRRRRR Hi Heather!

I had to give a shout out to the winners to be!

Hi Jess!! How goes it?? No fighting today:}

oops...that was me.

It goes well considering I had to walk a mile and a half with 20 lbs of groceries to the bus stop : ) Ugh now laundry and cleaning the apartment! How are you?

And I could never be mad at you Heather : ) I mean I could get into a disagreement pretty easily but... lol.

Jess, back at you;} BTW, this is a great time for the bus!! {gas prices, you know}:/

Elizabeth:

Just read and study and learn God's word and maybe your sour thinking will be transformed by God's power.

God's principles of governing are the solution. He always makes a way if we are trying to obey Him. If we rebel He let's us have our way which always leads to destruction.

The only thing I can do is obey and God will provide the solution. He commands me to speak truth so that's what I do.

Obama is simply a result of the immorality we have sowed in this country over 35 years. I know this for sure, Obama will reap more destruction on this country which perhaps may be irrecoverable. If that's the kind of legacy you want o leave to your children, go ahead. They will curse your memory.

Trust and Obey, for there's no other way. Do you have the faith to believe that? Do you love Him enough to believe that? I do. If you don't, just ask Him to help you and He will, I have no doubt.

Jess:

I could care less about anyone's hymen and I am not for cruelty to animals. However, I do like a good steak, pork chops and fried chicken.

Let me ask you this. Would you eat meat if cattle, pigs and chickens were treated better during their short stay here on earth?

If you are a constitutional lawyer and you know what you are doing, do your fellow citizens a favor and file a lawsuit in your state court system asking the secretary of state to require Barack Obama to prove he is a natural born citizen or be thrown off the ballot in your state.

Then you aren't the same Hisman as before. You are a new Hisman. The old Hisman wrote a huge post about how we will all be shamed before Jesus on judgment day when he asks us how we lost ours (which is strange since I lost mine playing volleyball and we had a few who lost theirs horseback riding).

And I never really ate meat, I recently became involved in animal rights about a year or two ago. I stopped completely when I was seven but my parents tell me they were hardly ever able to get me to eat meat. I am a vegetarian. It's my nature.

When my parents did get me to eat meat I would usually throw up or break out in hives.

That's not bias, that's patriotism.
Posted by: hal at October 26, 2008 11:04 AM

Hey Hal.... do you consider this patriotic too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwog6E08CFU

Oh and here is one more Hal. Please explain how this makes Nobama patriotic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rONpjqImLio

Just an FYI -

Universal Healthcare leads to more death.

From "Britain’s leading moral philosopher", Baroness Mary Helen Warnock:

"If you’re demented, you’re wasting people’s lives - your family’s lives - and you’re wasting the resources of the National Health Service."

www.digitaljournal.com/article/260039

She believes that we should be allowed to "put down" people who are burdens to our families and our government.

Then there is the Groningen Protocol in the Netherlands which allows doctors to euthenize infants who are "seriously ill" or "extremely premature". The BBC reported in January 2005 that there had been 15 -20 "mercy killings" a year in the Netherlands. Most of the cases involve spina bifida - for the most part this is not a life threatening condition.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4198993.stm

The list of "unofficial" rules is: 1) the child's medical team and independent doctors must agree
2)there is no prospect of improvement and the pain cannot be eased
3)parents give their consent
4)the life must be ended in the correct medical way

In this definition, infants with Down's Syndrome, cerial palsy, and a multitude of other conditions would fall in this. None of these have any "prospect of improvement" and there is no definition of "pain". We've all seen how "health" of people can be manipulated.

In the Netherlands anyone over the age of 12 can be euthenized. And they have universal healthcare long before euthenasia became legal.

And then there is the state of Oregon who passed the Death with Dignity act in 1997. In 2007 none of 46 people who used the physician assisted suicide were evaluated by a phsychiatrist or pschologist.

health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2008/10/08/oregons-assisted-suicide-law-may-overlook.html

"For the new study, researchers at Oregon Health and Sciences University checked for depression or anxiety in 58 terminally ill patients who'd requested physician-assisted suicide or had contacted an assisted death organization. Fifteen of the patients met the criteria for depression and 13 for anxiety.

By the end of the study, 42 patients had died."

Not one referred for mental health treatment.

Oregon has a "lottery" for healthcare insurance now. For people who don't have insurance, they have to wait until there names are pulled to get assistance.

From the NYTimes: www.nytimes.com/2008/03/13/us/13bend.html

"It has been more than a decade since the innovative Oregon Health Plan became a forerunner of state health care reform as it pursued universal health coverage. ...
the program had by 1996 reduced the number of the uninsured to about 11 percent of all residents, down from more than 18 percent in 1992. But then, early in this decade, the state endured a wrenching recession.

“Oregon was way ahead of everyone else,” said Charla DeHate, the interim executive director of Ochoco Health Systems. “And then we went broke.”

hmm..universal healthcare system, to legal Euthenasia, to healthcare lottery.....

Countries that have euthenasia legal:

The Netherlands.
Belgium.
Switzerland.

and Luxenburg and England are pushing for it.

All of these have some sort of Government health care plan. And the government healthcare came first.

And then there is this, straight from the Barack Obama website:

"Establish a National Health Insurance Exchange with a range of private insurance options as well as a new public plan based on benefits available to members of Congress that will allow individuals and small businesses to buy affordable health coverage."

You have to read very carefully on this one. You may be asking yourself what is an Insurance Exchange?

"If you do not have insurance you can choose to enroll in the new public plan,
which will offer benefits similar to what every federal employee and member of
Congress gets. Or you can choose private plan options through the national health
exchange."

So, you can have what the government offers (don't you just love the word "similar"? Which part will be similar?) OR you can pay for your own. Exactly who does this health plan benefit? It sure isn't the poor who can't afford the private insurance is it?

Joanne it's only traditional that you place your hand over your heart during the pledge of allegiance, not the national anthem.

And yeah it's too bad that poor kid didn't get the attention he wanted. Maybe he should go on American Idol?

Jess:

I don't think you've got that quite right. I know you really have a tough time telling the truth however, doing so really helps the anxious and neurotic feelings.

I believe the post was about the sanctity of marriage and how God views marriage as a blood covenant and not how I am concerned about everyone's hymen.

I think the post was way over your head as you've totally mischaracterized what I wrote. I am not surprised.

Since you have such a great memory I suggest you re-post it yourself. Frankly, it's not worth the time of day to find it. However, if you do find it and post it, I would be happy to debate the theology.

Nice try Jess. It may be "traditional" but I sure dont think anyone who is candidate for President omits it, not until Nobama.

And the point of the second video is NO national anthem before a Nobama rally, the excuse being they addded another speaker. Exactly how long is the national anthem? A couple of minutes? And they didnt have time for it?

You know I didnt like John Kerry much but sure didnt question his patriotism and love for America. Cant say the same about Nobama.

Hal:

You call the very media patriotic that lied incessantly about the progress we have been making in Irag, dissing the military, etc.?

You are a socialist Hal.

And if you call an unfair media patriotic again I will have to call into question your IQ.

Doug, I figure you'll like this one:

http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?src=rss&id=823

Ha! Bethany - awesome.

When my parents did get me to eat meat I would usually throw up or break out in hives.

Jess, not to make any bones about it - I'm a "carnivore." I like my chicken wings, my ribeyes, my filet mignons, my turkey breasts, my prime rib, pork chops, tenderloins, etc, and once (half my life ago - maybe before you were born) I ate a six pound steak in 19 minutes, along with a salad and a baked potato, not only thus getting it for free but setting the speed record for that establishment.

However, biologically we humans are not really designed to eat meat, as are cats and dogs. Our alimentary tracts are much longer, much better suited to consuming fruits and nuts, etc.

Hi Heather!

Hope things have been going well for you.

@HisMan: Thanks for not answering my question. Speaks volumes.

Hi Doug! *waves*....

Does anyone remember this post?
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2007/04/the_new_undergr.html
All of Hisman's crazy comments were removed : (

"I ate a six pound steak in 19 minutes, along with a salad and a baked potato, not only thus getting it for free but setting the speed record for that establishment."

Doug- you are seriously my hero for that. I hope someday I can fill your shoes in a steak eating competition much like that.

Oh no! I found it!
“Because of the seriousness and gravity of this custom in those days, women probably took better care of their hymens, I guess in direct contradiction to what's done today as stated by the rather glib and unshameful description of events in which Amanda, Joy, Danielle, Samantha, Ashlee, and Stephanie explained how they broke theirs. Wow, I can see them turning pale white when they face the thone of Christ to give an account of their indiscretion. But that's not the point."
This is what Hisman said before all his crazy posts were deleted!

Hi Doug! *waves*....

Oh Honey, here's a great big hug for you:

(((((((((((((((Heather}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

We have our differences, but you have never been anything but genuine.

Lol Rae, I don't even know why you bother. Or why I do for that matter. Maybe for our own amusement? Lol..

Doug, thanks! Still in Youngstown??

M E R I D I A N M A G A Z I N E
Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?
By Orson Scott Card
Editor's note: Orson Scott Card is a Democrat and a newspaper columnist, and in this opinion piece he takes on both while lamenting the current state of journalism.
An open letter to the local daily paper — almost every local daily paper in America:
I remember reading All the President's Men and thinking: That's journalism. You do what it takes to get the truth and you lay it before the public,
because the public has a right to know. This housing crisis didn't come out of nowhere. It was not a vague emanation of the evil Bush administration.
It was a direct result of the political decision, back in the late 1990s, to loosen the rules of lending so that home loans would be more accessible to poor people.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were authorized to approve risky loans. What is a risky loan? It's a loan that the recipient is likely not to be able to repay.
The goal of this rule change was to help the poor — which especially would help members of minority groups. But how does it help these people to give them a
loan that they can't repay? They get into a house, yes, but when they can't make the payments, they lose the house — along with their credit rating.
They end up worse off than before. This was completely foreseeable and in fact many people did foresee it. One political party, in Congress and in the executive
branch, tried repeatedly to tighten up the rules. The other party blocked every such attempt and tried to loosen them. Furthermore, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
were making political contributions to the very members of Congress who were allowing them to make irresponsible loans. (Though why quasi-federal agencies were
allowed to do so baffles me. It's as if the Pentagon were allowed to contribute to the political campaigns of Congressmen who support increasing their budget.)
Isn't there a story here? Doesn't journalism require that you who produce our daily paper tell the truth about who brought us to a position where the only way to keep
confidence in our economy was a $700 billion bailout? Aren't you supposed to follow the money and see which politicians were benefiting personally from the deregulation
of mortgage lending?
I have no doubt that if these facts had pointed to the Republican Party or to John McCain as the guilty parties, you would be treating it as a vast scandal. "Housing-gate,"
no doubt. Or "Fannie-gate." Instead, it was Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, both Democrats, who denied that there were any problems, who
refused Bush administration requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and who were still pushing for these agencies to go even
further in promoting sub-prime mortgage loans almost up to the minute they failed.
As Thomas Sowell points out in a TownHall.com essay entitled "Do Facts Matter?" ( http://snipurl.com/457townhall_com] ): "Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago.
So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush's Secretary of the Treasury."
These are facts. This financial crisis was completely preventable. The party that blocked any attempt to prevent it was ... the Democratic Party. The party that tried to
prevent it was ... the Republican Party. Yet when Nancy Pelosi accused the Bush administration and Republican deregulation of causing the crisis, you in the press did not
hold her to account for her lie. Instead, you criticized Republicans who took offense at this lie and refused to vote for the bailout! What? It's not the liar, but the victims of the
lie who are to blame?
Now let's follow the money ... right to the presidential candidate who is the number-two recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.
And after Freddie Raines, the CEO of Fannie Mae who made $90 million while running it into the ground, was fired for his incompetence, one presidential candidate's campaign
actually consulted him for advice on housing. If that presidential candidate had been John McCain, you would have called it a major scandal and we would be getting stories
in your paper every day about how incompetent and corrupt he was. But instead, that candidate was Barack Obama, and so you have buried this story, and when the
McCain campaign dared to call Raines an "adviser" to the Obama campaign — because that campaign had sought his advice — you actually let Obama's people get away
with accusing McCain of lying, merely because Raines wasn't listed as an official adviser to the Obama campaign. You would never tolerate such weasely nit-picking from a Republican.
If you who produce our local daily paper actually had any principles, you would be pounding this story, because the prosperity of all Americans was put at risk by the foolish,
short-sighted, politically selfish, and possibly corrupt actions of leading Democrats, including Obama. If you who produce our local daily paper had any personal honor, you would
find it unbearable to let the American people believe that somehow Republicans were to blame for this crisis. There are precedents. Even though President Bush and his
administration never said that Iraq sponsored or was linked to 9/11, you could not stand the fact that Americans had that misapprehension — so you pounded us with the fact that
there was no such link. (Along the way, you created the false impression that Bush had lied to them and said that there was a connection.)
If you had any principles, then surely right now, when the American people are set to blame President Bush and John McCain for a crisis they tried to prevent, and are actually
shifting to approve of Barack Obama because of a crisis he helped cause, you would be laboring at least as hard to correct that false impression. Your job, as journalists, is to
tell the truth. That's what you claim you do, when you accept people's money to buy or subscribe to your paper. But right now, you are consenting to or actively promoting a
big fat lie — that the housing crisis should somehow be blamed on Bush, McCain, and the Republicans. You have trained the American people to blame everything bad — even
bad weather — on Bush, and they are responding as you have taught them to. If you had any personal honor, each reporter and editor would be insisting on telling the truth —
even if it hurts the election chances of your favorite candidate. Because that's what honorable people do. Honest people tell the truth even when they don't like the probable
consequences. That's what honesty means . That's how trust is earned.
Barack Obama is just another politician, and not a very wise one. He has revealed his ignorance and naivete time after time — and you have swept it under the rug, treated it
as nothing. Meanwhile, you have participated in the borking of Sarah Palin, reporting savage attacks on her for the pregnancy of her unmarried daughter — while you ignored
the story of John Edwards's own adultery for many months. So I ask you now: Do you have any standards at all? Do you even know what honesty means?
Is getting people to vote for Barack Obama so important that you will throw away everything that journalism is supposed to stand for?
You might want to remember the way the National Organization of Women threw away their integrity by supporting Bill Clinton despite his well-known pattern of sexual exploitation
of powerless women. Who listens to NOW anymore? We know they stand for nothing; they have no principles.
That's where you are right now.
It's not too late. You know that if the situation were reversed, and the truth would damage McCain and help Obama, you would be moving heaven and earth to get the true
story out there. If you want to redeem your honor, you will swallow hard and make a list of all the stories you would print if it were McCain who had been getting money from
Fannie Mae, McCain whose campaign had consulted with its discredited former CEO, McCain who had voted against tightening its lending practices.
Then you will print them, even though every one of those true stories will point the finger of blame at the reckless Democratic Party, which put our nation's prosperity at risk so
they could feel good about helping the poor, and lay a fair share of the blame at Obama's door. You will also tell the truth about John McCain: that he tried, as a Senator, to do
what it took to prevent this crisis. You will tell the truth about President Bush: that his administration tried more than once to get Congress to regulate lending in a responsible way.
This was a Congress-caused crisis, beginning during the Clinton administration, with Democrats leading the way into the crisis and blocking every effort to get out of it in a timely fashion.
If you at our local daily newspaper continue to let Americans believe — and vote as if — President Bush and the Republicans caused the crisis, then you are joining in that lie.
If you do not tell the truth about the Democrats — including Barack Obama — and do so with the same energy you would use if the miscreants were Republicans — then you are not
journalists by any standard. You're just the public relations machine of the Democratic Party, and it's time you were all fired and real journalists brought in, so that we can actually
have a news paper in our city.
This article first appeared in The Rhinoceros Times of Greensboro, North Carolina, and is used here by permission.

you are seriously my hero for that. I hope someday I can fill your shoes in a steak eating competition much like that.

Geez, Rae, you're so far beyond what I was in college.

I don't really recommend such - it was really just greed and wanting to show off and knowing I was "good" at something; however, by the same token it's pretty much just having fun.

What I think you should do - well, that's a complex thing.

I may be wrong, but I think I "know" you on some level. I appreciate the power of your mind and the power of your passion.

When I was 18 or 21, there was nothing anybody could have said to me that would really have "made a difference." Yet, as time went on and I gained control of my life, things did change a lot, and that's what I think will happen for you.

Heather, ain't lived in Youngstown since I was 13, but have speant a good bit of time in NE Ohio since.

Life goes on...

Rae:

Oh you mean I didn't tell you what you wanted to hear?

Sorry, but I tell the truth.

@Doug...Sorry. Thought you still lived there.------ My bad.

You didn't answer my questions Hisman. You said you did not say we (some of the women on this site) would be held accountable before Jesus about how we lost our hymens. I showed you the post where you said just that. Now what?

Doug, you aren't missing much. Cept Dick Goddard and Wilma Smith. lol!

@HisMan: You completely dodged my question. You didn't even ANSWER my question, you answered a question YOU felt like asking. Seriously dude- it was a pretty obvious question, and I'm astounded that you couldn't even get over yourself long enough to answer the question.

Hey, I just realized another Obama lie.

Obama says that he would support a ban on partial-birth abortion if it has enough loopholes in it to make it meaningless. But Obama would not support any such law. How do I know? Because he told Planned Parenthood that the first thing he would do as president is sign the FOCA into law. And the FOCA would legalize partial-birth abortion and invalidate any other anti-abortion legislation.

But, it's not as if Obama supporters care that their guy is a lying piece of trash. They only care that he's a pro-abortion socialist. Everything else is just details.

Doug, you aren't missing much. Cept Dick Goddard and Wilma Smith. lol!

Heather, they both must be getting up in years, especially Dick. I still have a place down by Canton, though I'm very rarely there. Still get channel 8, I think it was....

Used to watch Houlihan and Big Chuck, later Big Chuck and Little John.

Hey, I just realized another Obama lie.

Well, John, your creativity is undiminished, anyway.

@ Jess 5:28pm
Do you simply copy every comment from all the posts on this blog or WHAT?
I find it really quite amazing.
I think HisMan's point was that we are all accountable for our actions - every single one of them, before God.
Of course, if you don't believe in God, then you don't believe you are accountable for any of your actions and you will behave accordingly.

Patricia I just don't think God will damn you to hell if you tore your hymen playing sports. Unless you think girls playing sports is evil. And no I remember his comment because it was SO absurd someone put it on a facebook group.

I agree that is NOT a reason to go to hell Jess. lol
Although the Taliban might not agree with you!!

Doug, I wasn't talking to you. I know you don't care about Obama's lies.

Jess, how do you function in society?

Lot's of females play sports John.
They can actually compete in the Olympics now!

My eighth grade history teacher (whom everyone loved) and a friend of my grandfather passed away recently. I was hoping you all would keep him in your thoughts/prayers/what have you.

Thank you all.

This is the job the media should be doing:

"WFTV-Channel 9's Barbara West conducted a satellite interview with Sen. Joe Biden on Thursday. A friend says it's some of the best entertainment he's seen recently. What do you think?

West wondered about Sen. Barack Obama's comment, to Joe the Plumber, about spreading the wealth. She quoted Karl Marx and asked how Obama isn't being a Marxist with the "spreading the wealth" comment.

"Are you joking?" said Biden, who is Obama's running mate. "No," West said.

West later asked Biden about his comments that Obama could be tested early on as president. She wondered if the Delaware senator was saying America's days as the world's leading power were over.
"I don't know who's writing your questions," Biden shot back.

Biden so disliked West's line of questioning that the Obama campaign canceled a WFTV interview with Jill Biden, the candidate's wife.

"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign.

McGinnis said the Biden cancellation was "a result of her husband's experience yesterday during the satellite interview with Barbara West."

Here's a link to the interview: http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html
.
WFTV news director Bob Jordan said, "When you get a shot to ask these candidates, you want to make the most of it. They usually give you five
minutes."

Jordan said political campaigns in general pick and choose the stations they like. And stations often pose softball questions during the satellite interviews.

"Mr. Biden didn't like the questions," Jordan said. "We choose not to ask softball questions."
Jordan added, "I'm crying foul on this one.""

Jess:

Publish the entire post instead of taking one part of it out of context and then I'll re-comment on it.

If you continue to slander me and continue to misquote me so as to discredit me I will ask that Jill ban you.

John L: Doug, I wasn't talking to you. I know you don't care about Obama's lies.

Most of the country is seeing who the real liars are, and they will vote accordingly.

They can actually compete in the Olympics now!

Jess, if they eat lots of 'Wheaties' - like 3 boxes a day, I heard they don't even have to train. Do you think that's true? ; )

And this too Jess:

I don't spend all my time on this blog like you do so EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE if I didn't answer your question right away.

I happened to be with my family and yes I did go to church tonight and just got back.

So now, repost the entire comment and then we'll talk, otherwise, keep your running moouth quiet.

My eighth grade history teacher (whom everyone loved) and a friend of my grandfather passed away recently.

Dan, great mention. Sounds like a really good guy.

HisMan: running moouth

What a grouch... And is that like a cow's mouth?

Jess is a vegetarian, remember.

Father John Corapi's call to Novena:

No other issue, not all other issues taken together, can constitute a proportionate reason for voting for candidates that intend to preserve and defend this holocaust of innocent human life that is abortion.

I strongly urge every one of you to make a Novena and pray the Rosary to Our Lady of Victory between October 27th and Election Day, November 4th. Pray that God’s will be done and the most innocent and utterly vulnerable of our brothers and sisters will be protected from this barbaric and grossly sinful blight on society that is abortion. No woman, and no man, has the right to choose to murder an innocent human being.

http://www.fathercorapi.com/PDF/ElectionNovena.pdf

In 2001, Barack Obama admitted to being a socialist. He called for "redistribution of wealth":

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/26/obama-in-2001-how-to-bring-about-redistributive-change/

Yep, America is starting to realize who the real liars are. Hopefully it's not too late.

Most of the country is seeing who the real liars are, and they will vote accordingly.

Posted by: Doug at October 26, 2008 11:13 PM

If you think this is true you have no idea of how most people vote. Most people don't even know for sure what each candidate's view on various issues are. Most suck up the MSM's portrayal of candidates unquestioningly, which is what MSM and liberals want. The fact that many are blaming the Bush administration for the current financial crisis when in fact it was the democrats were initiated these policies is proof of this.
And our educational system trains people to be followers and not thinkers.

"Most of the country is seeing who the real liars are, and they will vote accordingly."

Patricia: If you think this is true you have no idea of how most people vote.

P, I was replying to John's claims of "lies." Take a look around, like at the silly stuff "James" posts - that kind of stuff does more to harm the poster's candidate than the intended target.
.....

Most people don't even know for sure what each candidate's view on various issues are.

Well look at that - we agree, there.
.....

Most suck up the MSM's portrayal of candidates unquestioningly, which is what MSM and liberals want. The fact that many are blaming the Bush administration for the current financial crisis when in fact it was the democrats were initiated these policies is proof of this.

No, not the "Democrats" - both parties have done terribly in the US on financial matters. Some of the harshest criticism of the Bush Jr. admistration of late comes from McCain himself, though he neglects to mention that he favored almost evreything Bush proposed.

Dan,
I am sorry for the losses of very special people. I am praying.

This is not directly related to the cartoon but I feel it very important to spread the word. It is suspected that a murder mill is about to set up shop in Fayetville, NC. Please see this article and do all you can to help this pastor and the pro-life cause. Jill and moderators...do you have any new information on this? Thank you!
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/501738410.html

Dan,
I will keep your loved ones in my prayers. God bless you.

a.t.m. @ 8:52,

It looks like another round with Planned Parenthood in NC.
That's terrible news for them. All the more reason to vote for John McCain, the anti-abortion candidate.

Hisman what else can I do I posted a link to the ENTIRE topic. It's not my fault almost all of your posts were deleted. I just remembered that one because someone thought it was so outrageous they put it on a facebook group I am a member of.

Do you want me banned because I quoted you? I have shown EVERYTHING you wrote. It's not out of context, unless you expect us to also communicate telepathically.

And also, I don't need to discredit you, you discredit yourself. I don't spend all of my time on this blog I just show up at exactly the right moments.

His Man, if what you propose for America actually happens, I fear for this nation.
This would be the very thing that the founding fathers in their wisdom wanted to avoid at all costs -a THEOCRACY.
The very thing that so many have come here to avoid.
This country would be a fascist police state. And you're worried about Obama and his alleged"socialism"?
Abortions will still be very common and many women will die or be seriously harmed, while wealthy women will easily fly off to Europe,Canada, or Japan for safe, legal ones. Those poor unwanted children who ARE born will never get decent food, shelter, clothing,education and medical care, leading to a vicious cycle of more poverty,misery, unemployment,
crime, teenage pregnancy and a MUCH HIGHER abortion rate.
The poor will be left to their own devices and those out of work and down on their luck will be told to eat cake.
Homosexulas will not only lose their civil rights but be persecuted, arrested, imprisoned, even executed.
Students will be forced to pray in school even if they are atheists and agnostics. Creationism, which is nothing but a fairy tale, will be taught in schools as established scientific fact.
Vital medical and scientific reasearch will be thwarted because of obscurantism.
Non-christians will be second-class citizens.
There will be no financial aid for college students, or prospective ones, or for graduate,law and medical school.
The government will pry into our bedrooms and arbitrarily censor and ban any film, television program, book, magazine or website etc those in charge consider "indecent", even though not every one agrees on what is indecent.
Contraception will be illegal, yet abortions will only INCREASE, and a black market in contraceptives will emerge.
Abstinence only sex education will NOT lower the rates of teenage pregnancies and STDs.
This will be hell on earth, not an earthly paradise.

FYI, Phil Berg, the lawyer who sued claiming Obama's not US-born, is a "911-Truther" who has argued ON AL-JAZEERA that Osama bin Laden was not behind 911, and filed a racketeering suit against the Federal Government on behalf of one of the 911 victims.

And his suit against Obama was dismissed.

The 2nd cartoon has nothing to do with the pro-life cause. Neither does Jill's earlier blog touting a pharmicist's crusade against contraception.

Right wingers might enjoy being on the fringe, but such foolishness doesn't help the pro-life movement.

Jess,

What facebook group is that? I think I might have to join hehehe.

@Elizabeth: It's Support a Woman's Right to Choose (SAWRTC). I kinda doubt you'd want to join that one...

A theocracy?

It'll never happen.

Yes Robert:

Your post is ludicrous. This country became the great country that is was because it was founded on Judeo-Christian principles not on Gay-Lesbian-Pro-Abortion principles. Now that the country has departed from those original principles it has precipitously declined and will be detroyed.

You are saying you don't want the country the Founding Fathers envisioned. No you want a totally secular state with no limits, no boundaries, where godnlessness and debauchery prevail. You took God and prayer out of schools. You legalized the murder of innocent children in the womb. You want to shove homosexual marriage down our throats. What kind of peron are you to deny that this is absolute evil at work?

You want a government where there are all kinds of laws against religion and the practice thereof when the Consitution says just the eopposite. You want a government that says "In Us We Trust", instead of "In God We Trust".

Yes you want an Atheocracy because to you there is no God, according to you He has no say in the affairs of men, and if He does exists what He commands means nothing. This is the height if human stupidity; to ignore a holy and loving God whose purposes are only for man's good.

Yes Robert, you will likewise perish in your foolishness because when you live like there is no God, you will also die like there is no God. And the hereafter without God is called hell.

The tragedy of this is it doesn't have to be this way at all.

No, the country could ALSO be a theocracy, where you're forced to participate in a religion you disagree with, women are second class citizens, the church controls the government and tax money goes towards spreading misinformation about sex.

THAT sure sounds fun!

You never did answer Rae's question, HisMan. How would healthcare work in this theocracy of yours? Just pray about that broken leg, and it'll get better, that sort of thing?

Too crude, Fabulous.

HisMan, you used to make me angry. Now, you just make me giggle.

I've begun to wonder if HisMan might in fact be a Poe. It would make SO much more sense than him actually being as lolo as he seems.

"No you want a totally secular state with no limits, no boundaries, where godnlessness and debauchery prevail. You took God and prayer out of schools. You legalized the murder of innocent children in the womb. You want to shove homosexual marriage down our throats. What kind of peron are you to deny that this is absolute evil at work?"

This sounds good to me. I'll deny it's evil. It's progress. Thank God.

Rae,

Not join it in an I support it kind of way. But in a to laugh at other people kind of way, sure! I'm all about it!

Erin,11:14 a.m.

I couldn't agree more. I frequently get a good chuckle out of his posts.

Elizabeth do you want to join the group to see Hisman's posts or to laugh at pro-choice people who disagree with you?

So it's agreed? We laugh at HisMan rather than take his ravings seriously.

Either/or Jess. However it works out is fine for me. I'm sure some pro-choice people say some equally ridiculous things that would make me giggle. Just like HisMan.

Hal,

If I actually took HisMan's posts seriously, I would probably be angrier a lot more than I actually am.

His Man, I'm NOT an atheist and I'm not anti-religion. I have no problem with any one following this or that religion.
What I'm opposed to is religion, or any particular faith, getting too much power in this country. I don't condemn you or any one else for your religious beliefs.
I just don't want you or any one else trying to impose or force your religious beliefs and social agenda on any one else.
We already have theocracy in iran and Saudi Arabia, and things aren't so great in Afghanistan,either. Homosexuals risk being executed, and not in a humane way.
Women's rights are non-existent. Those who convert to Islam to any other religion risk execution. I don't want anything like this in America.
If you believe that the earth is only 6.000 years old, and that dinosaurs existed along with humans, that's your right. But don't try to force creationism on any one, especially kids in school. Let them make up their own minds.
If you don't like Playboy or penthouse magazine, and mildy bawdy films and television, don't watch those things or buy those magazines. But please don't try to make it illegal for others to purchase these magazines and see these films and TV shows. If you don't like homosexuality and gay people, that's your right. But please don't try to take away the rights of gays,and persecute them. Please mind you own damn business.No gay person has ever hurt me or tried to force me to be gay. I'm a heterosexual. The vast majority are just ordinary people who mind their own business and bother or threaten nobody. Only a tiny minority molest children, and many child molesters are heterosexual.
And what right do you think you have to tell women what to do with their bodies? Let's just live our own lives, mind our own business, and let GOD and only GOD, judge others.

I enjoy reading Hisman's posts outloud in the voice of Sauron from Lord of the Rings.

Try it sometime, it's hilarious.

Also, the founding fathers were not religious in the way you and many other Americans are. They did not want any one faith to have all the power, and oppress those who did not subscribe to it.
They believed that no individual religious faith, even the majority one, had the right to be the basis of law.
To them, religion was a private affair, and no business of the government's.

HisMan- I'm still waiting for a proper answer to my question. The nonsense you posted on October 26 at 11:49AM doesn't even begin to answer how we can fix our healthcare system without resorting to socialized healthcare.

Now, you can either bravely admit that you do not know the answer but give me your best guess or you can be a useless coward and just throw Bible quotations at me and another completely irrelevant answer that answers a question YOU want asked instead of the question I am asking.

Ahahaha Bilbo! It's wonderful!

Robert @ 5:09,

"The government" is made of people who have a right to express their religious beliefs. Religion has never been a "private affair", nor should it be, for those who are believers.

Rae 6:38PM

Socialized healthcare is not the answer. Keep in mind the gov't can't even run an efficient post office.
Competition and capitalism. When services have to compete, prices come down and quality goes up.
You won't succeed if you don't provide a competitive service and price.
Also, personal responsibility. People take NO responsiblity for their health. We have morbid obesity and its resulting health problems. Drunk drivers and the people they put in the hospital and nursing homes.
A local doctor volunteered his services in a low income community, offering free prenatal care. The women didn't come in.
People abuse their bodies with drugs, alcohol, and cigarettes.
I often make the fire dept. analogy. Yes we have fire depts. But we also have to take responsiblity for protecting our homes from fire i.e. using smoke alarms and extinguishing candles. We can't expect the fire dept. to be solely responsible for our homes and safety.
The same is true where our health and health care providers are concerned.

@Mary: Please point out where I said "socialized healthcare is the answer".

Please also note my question was not addressed to you but to HisMan because of his comment at 10:56AM on October 26th 2008. I want *his* response because he seems to have all the answers to everything.

Rae,

find new health-care, that's the beauty of it not being run by the government, you can find another plan.

Even where I work, there are multiple plans to choose from.

Rae,

I didn't say you said socialized health care was the answer. You said in your 6:38PM post that Hisman did not begin to answer how to fix our healthcare system without resorting to socialized healthcare.

My post was just meant as a general commentary on socialized as opposed to competition driven health care.

I'm aware your question was not addressed to me but this is an open forum and I was giving an opinion on something you mentioned in your post.

As for Hisman I would also be interested in his opinion and await it. I was just giving my perspective.

@Jasper: You're still misunderstanding me. My insurance is excellent- it covered ALL of my expenses. The reason I know how much this stuff cost is because I got bills from the hospital because my accident was a worker's compensation issue- I was hurt while working.

However- had I not been insured and I wasn't at work when I had my accident and hurt my arm I would have been out nearly $6000, BUT that was not the case because I had my private insurance courtesy of my dad (which I lose in May if I graduate and hopefully I'll have a job by then with benefits) AND it was a worker's compensation thingie.

@Mary: I understand now. Sorry for being snippy. I'll expound on my opinion as soon as HisMan writes...but if he doesn't respond within the next day or so I'll just assume he doesn't give a rat's arse and doesn't have the decency to respond- then I'll say my opinion on the matter. ^_^

Rae,

Not a problem. :)