Everyone's invited to my place for tubs and tubs of Orville Redenbacher.Posted by: carder at September 16, 2009 9:06 PM
Hey, you can't make me believe that Barry and Co. would lie about something.... well, maybe just one little lie... or two... or a few hundred.. maybe...Posted by: Doyle Chadwick at September 16, 2009 9:06 PM
I can't wait to see if any liberals try to tackle this question.Posted by: Bethany at September 16, 2009 9:21 PM
Carder, lol, am on my way!Posted by: Jill Stanek at September 16, 2009 9:38 PM
To quote Congressman Joe Wilson....... to Obama..... "you lie!"Posted by: Joanne at September 16, 2009 9:53 PM
Got a chance to listen to Jay Sekulow Live today and the ACLJ's lawyers pointed out bills' provisions for PP to get into the schools
AND wording that Sebelius will ensure that each state offers at least one plan with abortion coverage i.e. state monies paying for abortions.Posted by: klynn73 at September 16, 2009 10:11 PM
I hate how they're framing this as a gender issue...Posted by: Vannah at September 16, 2009 11:51 PM
I don't care who you are, noone owes anything for elective procedures, government or no. Insurance companies can come and go as they please, but as long as there is a public option and tax money is going there, elective procedures should not be covered. And in fact if these are the reasons the blue dogs oppose the bill, just give it to them. It can only bolster support but of course that would require pro-choice people to compromise on the issue which they have no desire to do.Posted by: prettyinpink at September 17, 2009 12:40 AM
Could it be because some women currently have coverage for abortion through their private insurance and there is concern from NARAL that abortion coverage would be lost in the reform?Posted by: nine at September 17, 2009 1:17 AM
Ok then, nine, either they are lying about abortion being covered in the healthcare bill, OR they are lying about people being able to keep their current coverage.
Lying is lying, and abortion being covered in a public plan of any stripe is 100% unacceptable.Posted by: xalisae at September 17, 2009 1:34 AM
Women's health services. They don't use the "abortion" word.Posted by: xppc at September 17, 2009 10:13 AM
Pass the popcorn. This is getting good.Posted by: carla at September 17, 2009 10:15 AM
Yes, Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and a blogger. But she is also a republica, a Fix News Contributor, a pharisee, and a liar. I am a senior citizen with a government run health care plan that we call MEDICARE. I am also a member of AARP. AARP just cleared the myth and scare tactics of these individuals that are trying to protect big insurance companies using all kind of falacies. Abortion is a personal issue. Just teach your children respect for God and life and they will learn how to make the right decision. In the meantime lets take on big pharmas and the health care insurance companies that are driving so many people to the land of no-where. By the way according to Billy Krystal the republican conservative, the best health care plan besides Medicare is managed by the Veterans Administration (VA Health Care ). Like Medicare the VA health care plan is a government plan.Posted by: Joe Popeta at September 17, 2009 12:43 PM
Back up your assertion that Jill Stanek is a liar, "Joe". What exactly did she lie about?
When we call Obama a liar, at least we have something to back those words up with.Posted by: bethany at September 17, 2009 1:23 PM
"AARP just cleared the myth and scare tactics "
Hmmm...I'd like to get a copy of that, Joe...can you provide a link to what they supposedly "cleared"??Posted by: RSD at September 17, 2009 2:10 PM
Joe: AARP's "clarification" was simply a warmed over version of White House talking points. Their comments cannot be considered either objective or credible.
Curiously, AARP, who purports to represent the interests of their members, did not address the matter of abortion funding. One would think that most seniors would not take well to paying for the destruction of innocent unborn babies, much less the possibility of their taxes being used to abort their own grandchildren.
On this the AARP is a fraud.Posted by: Jerry at September 17, 2009 4:27 PM
The VA is a joke! How quickly we forget the outrage over our vetran's healthcare. It seems some are only outraged about subpar care when a Republican is in the whitehouse.
VA hospitals have either killed, or nearly killed, both of my grandfathers and my husband's grandfather.
Come back to me when a VA hospital actually gives a damn.Posted by: Lauren at September 17, 2009 9:52 PM