Planned Parenthood to offer "insemination services," marketing lesbians

Just spotted this announcement on Twitter by Planned Parenthood St. Louis Region:

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The link takes you to PPSLR's Facebook page, and the announcement is this...

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As far as I can tell - after checking PP Federation's site and then PP Golden Gate, which would seem the 1st logical PP to offer stud services - this is the only PP nationwide offering this service so far.

Lovely. PP now specializes in aborting natural pregnancies and inseminating unnatural pregnancies - breaking up natural families and bonding unnatural families.


Comments:

Planned Parenthood never had much use for men other than to be chewed up and spit out, used for sex and then told to shut the he** up unless they're gonna pay for the abortion.

And now, when you WANT to conceive, you don't have to worry about having to deal with an icky, useless man getting in the way of your plans.

Ah, modern feminism.

Posted by: Kel at June 22, 2010 3:05 PM


That's an inseminated child's dream, right? To grow up wondering who ejaculated into a cup and became her father?

Real dignified.

http://www.familyscholars.org/assets/Donor_FINAL.pdf

Posted by: Cranky Catholic at June 22, 2010 3:36 PM


I think this somewhat ties into our discussion in the previous thread about adoption. Adult children born from AI often have the same sorts of questions as adoptees.

Posted by: Lauren at June 22, 2010 3:37 PM


With a name like "Planned Parenthood," you would think that helping people conceive would be their first priority. It's almost like, all these decades later, they feel that they need to live up to truth in advertising!

By the way, I'm curious as to exactly what the happy lesbian couple is expecting. Would that be a BABY, or a clump of cells? PP is going to have a hard time reconciling this with their aboriton "services," for the same reasons we discussed with the NYT "abortionists discovering adoption" piece.

Posted by: Kelsey at June 22, 2010 4:19 PM


The devil is hard at work, indeed :(

Sick.

Posted by: Becca at June 22, 2010 4:24 PM


Insemination services? PP will need REAL doctors who are specialized to do that. What if they can't find any REAL doctors who want to work for them?


Posted by: Janet at June 22, 2010 4:37 PM


Janet, your comment gave me the hilarious mental image of a telemedicine scheme in which the doctor on the screen explains the use of a turkey baster, after which the machine dispenses vials of sperm.

Jill, I do have to take issue with your statement that this creates "unnatural" families. Many people, despite a homosexual orientation, maintain a natural desire to be parents. Long before the practice was medicalized and formalized, lesbians conceived children by getting male friends to serve as donors.

Posted by: Kelsey at June 22, 2010 4:54 PM


@Kelsey. We're talking about artificial insemination I thought. By definition, "artificial" means "unnatural". I don't understand why the fact that the practice of A.I. might have been used by lesbians to conceive previously, makes it any more natural. A natural family is one man and one woman coming together in the sexual union to bring about a child. There's not a whole lot of nature involved in being put together in a petri dish, right? What am I missing?

Posted by: Elizabeth Shearer at June 22, 2010 5:07 PM


I thought that Jill's point was that it was unnatural because the parents are gay. Some straight couples use artificial insemination with donor sperm (if the husband carries a serious genetic disease, for example) and I've never heard them be condemned for it. Yes, a conception may be artificial, assisted by doctors, or what have you, and of course that isn't the "natural way." But going from that to calling the whole family "unnatural" bothers me.

P.S.-- Artificial insemination doesn't involve a petri dish. You're thinking of in vitro fertilization.

Posted by: Kelsey at June 22, 2010 5:18 PM


Kelsey, a lesbian couple connotates the primary participants in an "unnatural" family. Homosexuality is an abnormal sexual behavior. It is not an "orientation," as if one is born a homosexual. It is learned, often the result of a childhood trauma or abnormal parenting.

Posted by: Jill Stanek Author Profile Page at June 22, 2010 5:19 PM


Okay. I disagree, but we've had the gay conversation before and there's no need to rehash it.

Posted by: Kelsey at June 22, 2010 5:25 PM


Kelsey @ 4:54,
Yes! Telemed-insemination will be interesting!

Posted by: Janet at June 22, 2010 5:34 PM


What I find curious is the PP marketing campaignd appears to be targeting homosexuals, before heterosexuals.

I do not understand teh economics of this approach.

Surely the market demand for heterosexuals desiring artificial insemination is much greater than for homosexuals.

It does not take a rocket scientist to calculate/determine when ovulation is about to occur and it is not a high tech process to procure the sperm and deliver it in close proximity to the cervix.

This is just 'queer' as in odd, strange, bizarre.

There must be more to this story.

Maybe it has to do with the b.o. hellth scare scam.

Posted by: yor bro ken at June 22, 2010 5:37 PM


Maybe PP is sowing the seeds for a bumper crop of female homosexuals.

They tend to be liberal, humanistic and predisposed to membership in the 'dead babies r us' club.

Posted by: yor bro ken at June 22, 2010 5:41 PM


@Janet: "Now, be sure to open the drawer on the RIGHT. You don't want the abortion pills. YOUR right."

Posted by: Kelsey at June 22, 2010 5:44 PM


Kelsey wrote:
With a name like "Planned Parenthood," you would think that helping people conceive would be their first priority. It's almost like, all these decades later, they feel that they need to live up to truth in advertising!

I agree! Now I wonder if they will expand their services to include infertility testing and treatments as well as IVF and artificial insemination as well as expanding their prenatal care services.

Posted by: Rachael C. at June 22, 2010 5:46 PM


The name "Planned Parenthood" is disingenuous and misleading. When they say "family planning" or "planned parenthood" they only mean pregnancy prevention. Their prenatal care, obstetric care, and infertility testing/treatment as well as parenting services and adoption services are very limited in scope or referred out. When there's all this fuss about CPCs being misleading about what services they offer, what about Planned Parenthood being truthful in their advertising?

Posted by: Rachael C. at June 22, 2010 6:21 PM


"Some straight couples use artificial insemination with donor sperm (if the husband carries a serious genetic disease, for example) and I've never heard them be condemned for it." Posted by: Kelsey at June 22, 2010 5:18 PM

Hi Kelsey, the Catechism of the Catholic Church states:

"2376 Techniques that entail the dissociation of husband and wife, by the intrusion of a person other than the couple (donation of sperm or ovum, surrogate uterus), are gravely immoral. These techniques (heterologous artificial insemination and fertilization) infringe the child's right to be born of a father and mother known to him and bound to each other by marriage. They betray the spouses' "right to become a father and mother only through each other.""

Posted by: Praxedes at June 22, 2010 6:26 PM


Praxedes,
That may be all fine and well for those who are practicing Catholics, however for those who are not and are unable to conceive on their own, I feel that artificial inseminiation and IVF should be an available option and practiced responsibly.

Posted by: Rachael C. at June 22, 2010 6:30 PM


yor bro ken,

Perhaps PP is looking to polarize the American people public to advance their own agenda. Progressives have a way of doing that (in a Salinskian sort of way).

Posted by: Janet at June 22, 2010 6:37 PM


oops, "people public"

- eliminate the word "public" from that sentence.

Posted by: Janet at June 22, 2010 6:38 PM


Just think what this child will tell his/her classmates.

"I was conceived at an abortion clinic."

Posted by: Paul at June 22, 2010 7:14 PM


You know, as someone who was raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools, with a boyfriend who graduated from a Catholic boys' school, etc (we've been over this)--sometimes I feel the entire religion is just an excuse to be a hater.

What's wrong with AI, really? It gives us more children. Isn't that a good thing? A study just came out saying lesbians raise healthier children than straight couples.

Honestly, this isn't the Catholic church I grew up with. I remember my teachers and priests being REALLY liberal, yet pro-life. I think that's a good way to be.

Posted by: Ashley Herzog at June 22, 2010 7:27 PM


Ugh, I made the mistake of reading this post today.

Jill, homosexuality is NOT a choice. It is NOT a learned behavior. My cousin is gay---he was gay from the day he came out of the womb. His mother is a devout Christian who adores her son, did not abuse him, and there is no trauma or abnormal parenting in his history. My best gay friend has excellent parents, and comes from an upper middle class suburban neighborhood. None of my gay friends--except for one--had any abuse in their childhood, and the one that was abused suffered BECAUSE she was gay.

Christian pro-lifers claim the Bible says homosexuality is a sin, and then quote Leviticus and St. Paul. Well, gosh, the same passage in Leviticus tells you how to sell your daughter as a slave, and also says not to eat pork. St. Paul was an amazing writer, but he was hardly even in favor of marriage (except where it helped on "avoid sin")....It's possible that we simply have never understood homosexuality, and because it is different and because we don't understand it, we condemn it and judge it and treat gay people as if they're less than human. It's really, really sick. What is an abomination, I should think, is the pride of those who judge others so harshly.

If the pro-life community can please, please stop the homophobia, and stop equating gay rights and homosexuality as the equivalent to abortion, then we're never going to get anywhere. They are two very separate issues.

Posted by: MaryLee at June 22, 2010 7:30 PM


Rachael,

Praxedes was simply pointing out that there are many who hold that artificial insemination is inappropriate even when used by a married couple. Kelsey said she wasn't aware of anyone who held such a position.

Posted by: Courtney at June 22, 2010 7:30 PM


What is an abomination, I should think, is the pride of those who judge others so harshly.

Posted by: MaryLee at June 22, 2010 7:30 PM
----

MaryLee - if one sex is not necessary for reproduction, then neither is the other. Humans become products. Planned Parenthood is not providing abortion nor insemination for free.


As for judging harshly - go ahead and tell God he's proud. It's His book and his Word. Jesus talked considerably about the fires of Hell - what do you think He was referring to?

Posted by: Chris Arsenault at June 22, 2010 8:09 PM


"Honestly, this isn't the Catholic church I grew up with."

Thank God, hopefully the heretics are being weened out..

"I remember my teachers and priests being REALLY liberal"

That's where they failed you Ashley.

Posted by: Jasper at June 22, 2010 8:41 PM


"You know, as someone who was raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools, with a boyfriend who graduated from a Catholic boys' school, etc (we've been over this)--sometimes I feel the entire religion is just an excuse to be a hater."

If you wants kids who will defend Catholic teaching, send them to Public school, if you wants kids to bash Catholic teaching, send them to Catholic school.

..I think Bishop Fulton Sheen said this..

Posted by: Jasper at June 22, 2010 8:47 PM


I totally agree with you Jill. We will be maligned for "speaking the truth in love". No hate, no "homophobia", not politically correct but the "truth will set you free". Babies are "naturally" the product of 2 parents of 2 distinctly different reproductive systems that unite together anatomically, physiologically, emotionally, hormonally, mentally and spiritually (at least that is what God intended) to reproduce and create a unique, separate, NEW human being.

Love your post Paul, "I was conceived at an abortion clinic". What an unbelievable thing for a child to be able say.

The tragic irony of this is, what if the genetic testing comes back and the baby is not "perfect" or he/she is the "wrong gender", the baby's 2 mommies (I refer to PP's ad), or 2 daddies (via a surrogate mom) or Mom and Dad (whatever the case may be) can just return to PP to abort the life of their "baby", (oops, I forgot to say "product of conception") that they conceived there. Talk about double dipping, they can make bank either way. Cha-ching!!! BTW do the 2 mommies or 2 daddies or mom and dad get to sue for "wrongful life" if the baby is not what the couple wanted?

Posted by: Prolifer L at June 22, 2010 9:22 PM


Looking at that picture, can someone tell me which one is the husband?

Posted by: carder at June 22, 2010 9:30 PM


Ah--the happy couple! My first reaction was to wonder if the picture was a marketing tool--nice looking people (perhaps actors) on a bright sunny day. How "tweet".

That reaction is followed by: Exhibit "A" on how far astray we have gone as a culture in the post-Christian West. Can we still reclaim even a small portion of sanity or is it lost forever?

Posted by: Jerry at June 22, 2010 10:35 PM


I couldn't help but notice that the two lesbians in the photo add are white. Does this mean PP is all for elimninating other races and only promoting whites? Is that racist? Just wondering.

Posted by: divacallas at June 22, 2010 10:42 PM


Carder, my heart breaks but my guess would be the jeans and the polo indicate the "male" and the tank top with cleavage and white slacks indicate the "female".


1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that your body is God's temple... Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishnesss in God's sight.

1Cor. 6:13b The body is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord...vs.18 Flee sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit...You are not your own but you were bought at a great price. Therefore honor God with your body.

These scriptures refer to all of us, myself included, no matter our sexual orientation, none of us gets a pass. God loves you and me.

He did not give us:
Rules to spoil our fun but He wants to give us a Relationship with His Son to
Restore us to our
Rightful place in His family.

Posted by: Prolifer L at June 22, 2010 10:42 PM


"What is an abomination, I should think, is the pride of those who judge others so harshly."
Posted by: MaryLee at June 22, 2010 7:30 PM

MaryLee, With all due respect, this is what the pro-aborts say to the pro-lifers. Some 'prolifers' think we should remain silent about abortion altogether.

"--sometimes I feel the entire religion is just an excuse to be a hater." Posted by: Ashley Herzog at June 22, 2010 7:27 PM

There is that word (hater) that I've stated here in the past that has become popular to call Catholics who follow all the teachings of their faith. It may be used towards others as well but I hear it often used by young people towards those who are Catholic.

Ashley, I'd be interested in specifically why you believe your Catholic teachers and priests were 'liberal'.


Posted by: Praxedes at June 22, 2010 10:54 PM


I have a funny feeling all the babies are gonna end up looking like the male abortionist.

Posted by: Sydney M. at June 22, 2010 11:28 PM


And Courtney, I was simply sharing my views as a more liberal pro-lifer and agnostic among the more traditional, religious views here.

Posted by: Rachael C. at June 22, 2010 11:52 PM


I think some of you (Sydney, yor broken) get your kicks by conjuring up these Sweeney Todd-esque abortion clinic scenarios. From the PP's I've seen, the facilities are sanitary. The physicians are licensed. And their employees--even senior staffers--aren't exactly rolling in dough (verifiable by a quick check of their irs statement). So much for the Abortion Barons.

Yes, PP provides abortions, which many of you find objectionable. Okay. But seriously, gross mischaracterizations and flimsy conspiracy theories don't help your cause. 3% of PP's services are abortion-related. PP's Title X funding can't be used for abortion, so if you want to take issue with funding sources, don't attack the govt--go after the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. Also, outright condemntation of PP implies that you would deny so many American women crucial healthcare services, like breast exams, Pap smears, HIV testing, etc etc. Did you know that, for many adult women, the point of entry into the health care system is the Title X clinic?

Posted by: Megan at June 23, 2010 1:07 AM


Hi, Ashley. I have a more positive impression of Catholism on the whole than you do, but as someone who was conceived through artificial insemination by my parents, I agree with you to an extent. For those who oppose artificial insemination no matter what the circumstances are, my parents were married for ten years before they were able to conceive me. (They're still married, by the way. Happily.) I am the biological child of both of them. They didn't create any embryos and then kill them or leave them frozen forever. They were just having problems getting the sperm to the egg the regular way, so without killing any human beings, they got it there a different way. It doesn't make me artificial or unnatural.

"It is learned, often the result of a childhood trauma or abnormal parenting."

Sorry, Jill, but that doesn't work with me. I'm bisexual and have never had a relationship with a woman, though I've been strongly attracted to many. I met my boyfriend early in life and fell in love with him, and seeing as he makes me blissfully happy, I'm not about to have a relationship with a woman. How can something be a learned behavior without the behavior?

My only childhood trauma was that a bunch of kids bullied me in fifth grade, for reasons that had nothing to do with sexuality. My mom was a stay-at-home mom for my whole childhood; she and my dad sent me to Catholic school from kindergarten through twelfth grade and we went to church every week. We still go to church every week. I have never been beaten, abused, molested or raped. I could make you my official biographer with access to all my stuff and everyone who knows me and you still wouldn't find any childhood trauma or abnormal parenting. I wasn't even allowed to watch violent TV shows or movies. On the other hand, my boyfriend's parents got divorced when he was two because his father is an alcoholic, and my boyfriend is straight.

Posted by: Marauder at June 23, 2010 7:36 AM


Whatever Megan. I live near Philly. It was in my area that an abortionist's clinic was recently raided and they found fetuses stored all over the place and dirt and grime. the police called it a "shop of horrors". He killed a couple patients and butchered other women during his 30 something year reign of terror. Abortionists are the bottom of the medical barrel no matter who owns the clinic.

Posted by: Sydney M. at June 23, 2010 8:52 AM


Haha right, I'm a heretic. Haven't heard that word in a while. Wasn't there a big thing with that--the Spanish Inquisition or something?

We had two types of teachers at Catholic school. We had the hippie-like, anti-war, "God loves all people, including unborn babies," types who were all about stuff like feeding the poor. Then we had the cranky old hags who told us laughing in church was a sin--when we were about 7.

Posted by: Ashley Herzog at June 23, 2010 8:54 AM


Ashely,

I didn't say you were a heretic, re-read my comment. I was referring to some Catholic teachers, etc..

Posted by: jasper Author Profile Page at June 23, 2010 9:01 AM


"We had the hippie-like, anti-war, God loves all people, including unborn babies"

Yea riiight, these are the same people who gave us Roe. V Wade and 50 million dead children. These are the same people who distorted Vatican2.

Ashley,

The liberals in the church failed you, and thats how you ended up being a Mother of a dead baby. You should've listened to the 'cranky old hags'.

Posted by: jasper Author Profile Page at June 23, 2010 9:09 AM


"This is why I stopped going to church."

Ashley,
I thought you stopped going to church because of the nun that excommunicated herself and before that you only went because the parents made you. Now you say you've stopped going to church because of people like Jasper, who you believe is a F.A.

I don't know if you realize it or not, but the Catholic church as well as all churches are filled with imperfection and sinners which includes hippies and cranky old hags (I'm kinda a combo of the two). If you were there on Sunday, one more sinner would join us for the Eucharist. Jesus came to save us sinners.

Please stop blaming others for your not attending Mass. The fact is, you don't attend because you don't want to. It is that simple.

I recently read a book called 201 Inspirational Stories of the Eucharist by Sister Patricia Proctor that includes real life experiences surrounding the Eucharist. It was inspirational to me and I really believe you would enjoy it too.

Peace.

Jasper, I disagree that you are anything near what Ashley called you. I do though think that many "hippie-like, anti-war, God loves all people, including unborn babies" were strictly opposed to Roe v. Wade, including my own mother.

Posted by: Praxedes at June 23, 2010 10:45 AM



If anyone is curious, my above post is in response to Ashley's post (that has since been deleted because of potty language) where she blamed Jasper for her not attending church anymore.

Posted by: Praxedes at June 23, 2010 10:54 AM


Praxedes, I have Sr Proctor's book too. Haven't finished it yet. I find receiving more inspirational than reading :)

Posted by: Fed Up at June 23, 2010 11:07 AM


Posted by: Megan at June 23, 2010 1:07 AM

Sweeny Todd aside, PP is a business, purportedly a 'non-profit' business. But that does not mean that PP is unprofitable or charitable.

'Non-profit' means that dividends cannot be paid to the owners. 'Non-profit' organizations like PP are often very profitable.

Whatever beneficial and therapeutic services PP may provide to her clients, she does so with tax dollars.

Any money from paying customers is laundered and funneled into all kinds of partisan political purposes.

There is little or no accounting of how this whore house of the left allocates and re-distributes the monies that pass through her blood stained hands.

www.jillstanek.com/political-antilife-bias/1-billion-federal-funding-give.html#comments

You are pleased with the 'status quo' because PP funds candidates and policies that harmonize with your amoral worldview.

A billion dollars can buy a lot of lipstick, but
if PP were dis-established and defunded today, she would be exposed and quickly wither and die like the decadent ugly whore that she really is.

Posted by: yor bro ken at June 24, 2010 6:55 PM


Planned parenthood started with information about ovalation so women could choose when to have sex. They could either avoid or presue pregancy. Planned Parenthood has focused on avoiding pregancy and now is trying help people get pregant. They got back to their roots.

Posted by: Ren at June 27, 2010 6:21 PM


"Planned Parenthood has focused on avoiding pregancy"

Planned Parenthood has focused on terminating pregnancy AKA killing human beings.

Posted by: Praxedes at June 27, 2010 9:47 PM



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