OctoMom and Mom brawl on tape Part I

On February 23, 2009, Radaronline.com caught OctoMom Nadya Suleman and her mother Angela on video arguing about Nadya's decision to have so many embryos implanted.

The spat isn't pretty. Nadya is overbearing despite making solid pro-life arguments with a woman she should treat with much more respect: the grandmother caring for her 6 older children. Meanwhile that grandmother coldly argues the new babies shouldn't be here.

These women both have issues, the first being that they're foolish enough to air family disputes on camera, a la Jerry Springer.



Comments:

The real brwal is over on the Sunday Funnies post. Jasper is on a comment deleting rampage! seriously. He started deleting comments without justification and then when called on it he went beserk.

Posted by: asitis at February 23, 2009 5:58 PM


No one made any solid points about anything. These women were having a hissy fit. She's too immature for 14 kids, that much is sure. What is she doing on TV? Shouldn't she be supporting her babies?...oh, and her six other children?

Posted by: Leah at February 23, 2009 6:34 PM


I just pray that those precious babies are going to be ok.

Posted by: Sandy at February 23, 2009 7:06 PM


Asitis, grow up and stop dragging things from one thread to another.

I'm very glad the babies seem to be in good health. I think that her mother makes some very valid points, seeing as she's the one doing the raising.

While I am pleased that she "chose life", I think the truly responsible decision needed to be made long before the point at which these 8 babies were implanted.

Posted by: Elisabeth at February 23, 2009 7:11 PM


"Grow up" Elisabeth???? Oh, I think you should be advising Jasper of that. He's the one who threw the tantrum.

Posted by: asitis at February 23, 2009 7:14 PM


Yes, Asitis, grow up.

Unless you intend to start whining, "Bbbbbbut... but he STARTED it!!!"

At which point I will still say... grow up.

Posted by: Elisabeth at February 23, 2009 7:38 PM


I'll pass your message on to Jasper Elisabeth. Thanks.

Posted by: asitis at February 23, 2009 7:49 PM


I wish Nadya wasn't so aggressive in this discussion because she did make some very good pro-life points...she just used them in a very, very disrespectful manner and made herself look bad.

Posted by: Bethany at February 23, 2009 8:25 PM


One need not be a shrink to understand that this "mother" has serious metal problems. She has a clearly pathological need to be depended on and "loved." Look at the ages of here kids. Mark this. Save a copy. Within two years she will be hunting for a new "doctor" to get her pregnant again.
I pray that the babies stay healthy. But the odds are against them.
No income. No father.
Pray for a miracle.

Posted by: Mark at February 23, 2009 9:02 PM


Asitis,

I think it best to leave your brawl with Jasper on the other thread. This is another place and time.

Posted by: Mary at February 23, 2009 9:58 PM


Mark,

You're so right. On a previous thread I compared this woman to the eccentric who fulfills some emotional need by collecting cats until there is a houseful of cats completely out of control.
These children are objects that fulfill some emotional need of hers.
She's trying to look like Angeline Jolie, has attempted to contact her, and fantasizes about a household of children like her. Obviously this woman has some serious issues.
This has nothing to do with motherly love and devotion and everything to do with a sick obsession.

Posted by: Mary at February 23, 2009 10:04 PM


OT here, but can't the DOCTOR who did the transplants be held responsible for some form of financial support for these kids?

He knew her situation and went ahead and "impregnated" her anyway, so doesn't that make him somewhat "responsible" for these babies ???

How do we know that HE isn't the sperm donor ?

Posted by: Mike at February 23, 2009 10:17 PM


Thanks Mary. I know. I was actually alerting the other mods if they were listening.

Posted by: asitis at February 24, 2009 6:29 AM


If you would like to let the other mods know of something going on then email all of us at once, please. Click on it in the Moderators box.

Posted by: Carla at February 24, 2009 6:57 AM


I know that Carla, but I wanted to keep a degree of anonymity. I'm suer you can appreciate that.

Were you aware of what was going on yesterday?

Posted by: asitis at February 24, 2009 6:59 AM


I'm giving Nadya the benefit of the doubt here. She's been so trashed in the media I'd be a little ticked off too. And while we've never been on national TV my mom and I have had worse rows than this.

Now I hear her father is supposed to be on Oprah - Oy Vey! Give the girl a break!

Posted by: Kristen at February 24, 2009 7:39 AM


OMG! I just heard Nadya's mother say something like you could thaw them, or whatever they do, and then "put them up for adoption when they're HUMAN." Nice, really nice.

Posted by: Kristen at February 24, 2009 7:43 AM


this woman nadya is trying so hard to get her 15 minutes of fame and it is being handed to her on a silver platter! everyone is buying into all of her gimmicks. i for one am sick of the way everyone is clammoring to her to get exclusive interviews and pictures. the paparazzi are following her around like she is brittany spears. it is sickening. she is using her children because it she thinks it will give her fame and fortune. anyone that would use their children in that way should be charged with child abuse!

Posted by: becky at February 24, 2009 8:14 AM


too much to comment on.
the daughter is sef indulgent and tells mom to "let go" She wants money but not advice. Todays cuklture claims giving advice is a sin.

the next rant part is over use of the word acceptance. We do have the right to express things that are totally un acceptible. Younger generatians creat a lot of pain intentionally for them selves when they disregard advice that prevents problems.

On a positive note. We will need several hundred new tax payers to pay off the pork payments.

Posted by: xppc at February 24, 2009 8:22 AM


OctoMom us just unbelievable. She doesn't work, lives in her mother's house, has no father of the children present, and uses her own mother as "help"...yet has no respect for her and talks down to her. Yeah, she's a real prize.

No doubt, the court will step in at some point and take the kids away from her and place them where they will be properly cared for individually. She can't possibly care for 14 kids in her current situation.

The only good thing she's done is not to have aborted the 8. This woman has some serious issues going on. She will only be able to exploit the kindness of others for so long.

Posted by: Mike at February 24, 2009 9:41 AM


Yup, when the media is bored with her she will be on her own. I wouldn't blame her mom for ditching her either, her daughter is acting so ungrateful and disrespectful.

Posted by: Leah at February 24, 2009 9:56 AM


These people make me tired.

Posted by: Pansy Moss at February 24, 2009 10:15 AM


I wonder how many donations she's received. I do care for welfare of her babies and other children as everyone else does, but part of me feels like donating is just validating her ridiculous, irresponsible past choices. It's just sad that there aren't more options for her kids. I am certainly not in favor of separating them to different adoptive homes/foster care. But I really wonder how they're going to live this way. Diapers don't come cheap. And love doesn't pay the bills.

Posted by: AM at February 24, 2009 11:15 AM


I know that Carla, but I wanted to keep a degree of anonymity. I'm suer you can appreciate that.

Were you aware of what was going on yesterday?

Posted by: asitis at February 24, 2009 6:59 AM

Carla, that shouldn't be a tough question to answer

Posted by: asitis at February 24, 2009 11:30 AM


No I was not aware of what was going on until after the fact.
Continue with your snarkiness. Without me.

Posted by: Carla at February 24, 2009 11:56 AM


I think that referring to Nadya Suleman as "Octomom" is degrading and insulting. Regardless of what you may think of her choices, she doesn't deserve an epithet that reduces her to nothing more than a circus freak.

Posted by: Name calling isn't nice at February 24, 2009 12:51 PM


No I was not aware of what was going on until after the fact.
Continue with your snarkiness. Without me.

Posted by: Carla at February 24, 2009 11:56 AM

Snarkiness?

Well, I'm sorry I had to drag it into another post yesterday to get someone to act on it. But apparently it did the trick.

Have a good afternoon Carla.

Posted by: asitis at February 24, 2009 12:56 PM


We just saw on the news that a Dr Rand Pink is sold a OCTOMOM Doll to a toy company in Japan. The doll has.a zipper on its belly so 8 Octobabies come out. They mentioned they're going to have an Octobaby cartoon in Japan too.

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2009 1:23 PM


Yes. Continue the thread hopping, V. Have a good one.

Posted by: Carla at February 24, 2009 1:51 PM


Sorry Carla, I'm not sure I understand. You are saying in the future that's a good way to let you know when something is amiss?

Posted by: asitis at February 24, 2009 2:11 PM


Or are you saying people should only comment on one thread at a time even if something in another thread interests them???? I don't really know what you are saying.

Posted by: asitis at February 24, 2009 2:12 PM


The best way is to pick a mod and email them. I am sorry about your concerns about anonymity but not all mods are on at the same time. Nor do we go back to the threads with 300+ comments. Read your first comment on this thread again. If you want help from a mod, just ask.

I am saying that you hop from thread to thread to stir people up. That is your job.

Posted by: Carla at February 24, 2009 2:28 PM


hmmmm.... Or could it just be that I have something to say carla? I'll answer that for you: Yes.

Posted by: asitis at February 24, 2009 3:10 PM


V,
Yes. We all have things to say. Tis true.

Please forgive me. I have been cranky all day and this is not the place to be when that happens.

You can absolutely email me. Completely confidential. I am being sincere. I have had many commenters email me. Bethany would say the same thing. :)

Ok. Going to go find my happy place.

Posted by: Carla at February 24, 2009 5:15 PM


Hey Carla,

Can I join you? :)

Posted by: Janet at February 24, 2009 5:33 PM


Carla, thank you.

Posted by: asitis at February 24, 2009 7:25 PM


Janet,
Yes!! Please!! We will share a cup of cyber coffee and laugh about the good ol days.....


V,
You are very welcome. I meant every word.

Posted by: Carla at February 24, 2009 8:22 PM


Asitis, also you can always set up a google or yahoo email account and be completely anonymous. Register as asitis@yahoo.com or something like that.

We mods just can't read every line of every post and it helps to have someone let us know by email if we miss something.

I've had many, many people email me when they noticed something wrong on the blog. And I'm usually pretty quick to respond to emails- I check it every day.

Posted by: Bethany at February 24, 2009 9:27 PM


Hey Bethany,
Janet dropped by!! :)

Before I head to bed I must say that I don't like that Youtube stops a video in some of the most unfortunate places. Or should I say unfortunate faces? Wow. Nadya's mom.

Posted by: Carla at February 24, 2009 9:38 PM


Janet! Good to see you! :)

LOL, Carla, about the face. It's so true.

Posted by: Bethany at February 24, 2009 10:12 PM


Humans are stupid!

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at February 25, 2009 9:20 AM


Carla,
Do you have hazelnut? Mmmmm...

Bethany,
Good to see you too! I hope you are well.

kbhvac,
I guess that's why we're called "human".
:)

Posted by: Janet at February 25, 2009 1:33 PM


I will get some!! :)
French Vanilla. Mmmmm....

Posted by: Carla at February 25, 2009 1:53 PM


Oh, hey. Something just dawned on me. :)

Posted by: asitis at February 25, 2009 4:39 PM


Hi Janet! I have been wondering where you have been!

Posted by: Eileen #2 at February 25, 2009 6:35 PM


Janet,

So good to see you!!!!!! Its been what....forever?

Posted by: Mary at February 25, 2009 7:01 PM


Eileen #2, and Mary,

Thanks to you both! I needed a break after the election. Ugh.

Posted by: Janet at February 26, 2009 11:15 AM


She never listens and never shuts up.

A shame.

Her mother is losing her home from caring for her and she has does not care at all.

Forgive the comparison but she seems the same type of person as that girl from Florida in the news, who is on trial for murdering her daughter.

Posted by: Ellen at March 6, 2009 6:47 AM