luv it!!!! where do you get this stuff?

People like you send it to me, in this case one of my site's two wonderful moderators, Bethany!

No fetus would sign. Too bad they don't have a choice.* sad face*

i wonder of the millions of babies that are aborted, what the percentage is of them that would sign? :)

ROFLMAO

9 month waiting period... that was fabulous.

Thanks for sharing Jill!

LOLLL..

I'd have consented, if my mother had wanted to abort me. I'd rather not be alive than have forced my mom to have me.

"I'd have consented, if my mother had wanted to abort me. I'd rather not be alive than have forced my mom to have me."

bulls***

jasper, sweety, you don't know me. You have no idea whether or not it's BS, and I can assure that it's quite true.

No one has the right to "consent" to the death
of another human being.

"I'd have consented, if my mother had wanted to abort me. I'd rather not be alive than have forced my mom to have me."

That is honestly, without question, the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. I tend to agree with Jasper's analysis.

I wonder if Less have rather her mother killed her as a toddler, rather than having to be "forced" to deal with tanrums and the stress of raising a young child who is strong willed?

Because who would want to force their mother to go through so much "heartache" and "misery"?

Obviously , in Less's opinion, her worth as a human being on this earth completely depends on how her mother felt about her.

Somehow I find it hard to believe though. She completely resents her mother's right to control her sex life as a minor, when she was living under her roof...why would she respect her mother's right to kill her?

Wow... I didn't expect an argument coming from this one.

I would prefet this had gone on with some more humor... other ridiculous laws. e.g. Minors don't have to tell their parents but can only be turned over to the care of guardian after being released from clinic maybe. Not that funny i know... just trying to get things back on track.

If my mom had honestly not wanted to have me, I would have completely supported her decision to abort me. If my mom had not wanted to deal with me as a toddler, I would have absolutely supported her decision to give me up for adoption. I would never want to be a child that was forced upon someone: that would be cruel. If my mom hadn’t wanted me while she was pregnant, I would have supported her decision to abort me or adopt me out, and if she hadn’t wanted me as a child, I would have fully supported her decision to adopt me out.

Obviously , in Less's opinion, her worth as a human being on this earth completely depends on how her mother felt about her.

No, I just have more compassion than to suggest that someone should be forced to go through a pregnancy.

No, I just have more compassion than to suggest that someone should be forced to go through a pregnancy.

Less, that's not compassion. That's regarding one human's convenience over another human's life. Maybe one day you will understand. I realize you disagree.

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I realize this is not on topic, but I wanted to let you know, I am very sorry for the way your parents treated you when you were living with them. I realize they did some rotten things to betray your confidence, and things that disgusted you...things that you saw as very hypocritical.

I'm sorry they were like that, and I think I understand where you're coming from, (except, with a pro-life perspective). If you think your parents limited you in what you could and couldn't do, you should meet my parents. You don't know the meaning of not being able to do anything till you've met them! No kidding. My parents were extremely hypocritical at times, and I really resented it, horribly. For years. I resented them for a very, very long time, and there was a time that it consumed me so much that all I would do day and night was to dwell on all the horrible stuff I had to deal with, and focus on my misery.

And at times, I admit, I still have those scars opened up again. But I have healed so much over the years and have come to an understanding about much of it. Sorry I'm being really vague here, but I dont really want to go into much detail on this public forum.

Just wanted to let you know I actually can relate to you in some ways, and I understand somewhat where you're coming from. I see it this way. I understand that you don't want to end up exactly like your parents. When you have kids, you want to make sure that you don't make the same mistakes they made. You want your kids to like you. Am I wrong in assuming this?

That's understandable...just try to keep it in moderation...if you get too fanatical either way, you'll end up making your own really awful mistakes that you never even realized you would make, and the kids will resent you regardless.

I learned a lot in the first few years of actually being a parent...I still have much more to learn, of course. A few things that I was soooooo irritated about before I got married, and now, I sort of understand, from the parents view instead of the child's. I probably would never have realized it if I hadn't become a parent though. Not all of what my parents did is understandable, mind you, but a lot of it is.

If it wasn't for my husband, I'd probably be an emotional wreck now, because it wasn't until after I met him, that I learned of better ways to deal with my emotions.

I hope you don't get offended with what I've said, just wanted to try to come to an understanding. Hope you see where I'm coming from on this.

Bethany, I found it refreshing that you pointed out that sometimes parents aren't so great. People have always told me that parenting doesn't come with a manual. Some kids out there really don't have it easy. My parents divorced, so there are some awful memories that I carry too. [won't get into it] but I have been through some major bouts of depression and despair in my life as well. However, I know that each one of us has a purpose on this earth. Use your time here wisely all, because it's going to go fast.

I think we’d all be surprised by how much we have in common with each other. I know that despite the differing political ideals, I see pieces of myself in most of the people on this site, on both sides.

I remember going through that miserable stage of resentment. I dealt with it, and I’m a stronger person now; I know that. Now that I’ve moved out, spent some time away from my parents, we get along loads better. We won’t ever be buddy-buddy happy family, but we get along, and we accept each other, for the most part.

I agree: those scars never do quite go away. I know that mine likely never will. You’re also right in that you have to take what you learned from your own parents, both good and bad, and strike a balance with your own kids. If you’re too lax, they walk all over you…too strict, and they resent you. I think the balance is different for each family, to be honest: with my fiance’s family, I believe the balance was usually helped along by religion, for example.

I also agree that finding someone who actually understands you emotionally is incredibly important. My fiance has done that for me. I’m not always easy to love or to be with: I have my share of issues, and I’m aware of that, but he tries. And I try, and we work so well together. The best relationship is the one you work hardest for, I’d say.

Don’t worry, you didn’t offend me at all. I think it’s important to recognize the similarities on both sides of the fence.

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