NARAL accuses pregnancy care centers of "misleading" Yellow Pages ads, but what about abortion clinics?

The title of NARAL president Nancy Keenan's email this afternoon piqued my interest, "An ad no woman should see."

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What would that be? Egad!...

... an ad for a pregnancy care center, horrors! Click to enlarge...

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I check and can find no ad for "Problem Pregnancy Inc." on YellowPages.com or SuperPages.com. Nevertheless, it is perfectly legitimate and advisable to post a prc ad under the "Abortion Information and Referral Services" category. This is not a listing under "abortion services," as Keenan states.

The word "feminism" is much in the news these days, and Keenan's email is a caricature for liberal feminist hysteria. How embarrassing. We're talking about organizations that help mothers in crisis pregnancies carry their babies to term in every way imaginable - and FREE. What truly "pro-choice" group wouldn't support that?

NARAL's letter to Yellow Pages and Super Pages states:

To date, we have identified approximately 112 anti-choice organizations advertising under "Abortion Services" on SuperPages.com and YellowPages.com, even though the directories have a category called "Abortion Alternatives." We have verified that none of the 112 anti-choice organizations provides or refers for abortion services.

Egad again! 112 out of 4,000 - throughout the entire United States! And I'd like to see Keenan's list. Don't trust and verify.

And does Keenan mean to say abortion mills don't belong in the "Abortion Alternatives" category? Well, looky what I found in the span of 5 minutes:

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I don't think it would take that much longer to find 109 more abortion mills posing as "Abortion Alternatives" if we want to play that game. (I confirmed that all 3 listings committed abortions, fyi.) I'll support all prcs listed under "Abortion Services" moving to "Abortion Alternatives" if Keenan supports moving all abortion mills doing vice versa.

And "unregulated storefronts"? Do you really want to go there, Nancy? Are you saying you support regulation? Let's start here in IL, where nail salons and roofers are more regulated than abortion mills.


Comments:

I checked too- no such ad in SuperPages. Yellowpages requires you to enter a location, which NARAL conveniently omitted, if there was such an ad at all. I highly doubt it.

Might I propose a counterattack? Superpages counts on its own users to recommend businesses for the Super Guarantee. We should get every mother, father, ob/gyn, volunteer, etc. to vote for their local PRC. http://yellowpages.superpages.com/reviews/info_page.jsp?src=rev_week

Posted by: Kelsey at June 15, 2010 5:37 PM


An ad no woman should see, huh? Talk about "trying to force your morality onto other people" - and, what, the poor fragile things are so weak they just can't handle it?

There's nothing to stop anyone from walking into a CPC, asking if they do abortions or refer for them, and walking right back out when they hear the answer is no.

Just out of curiousity, has anyone ever placed a baby for adoption with help from Planned Parenthood? Has Planned Parenthood ever referred women and girls who don't want an abortion to somewhere that can help them? WHAT "abortion alternatives" does Planned Parenthood offer? What do they say when a teenage girl comes in sobbing, "Oh my God, I'm pregnant and I'm so scared and I don't know what to do"?

Posted by: Marauder at June 15, 2010 5:57 PM


Posted by: Marauder at June 15, 2010 5:57 PM

Planned Parenthood provides an array of women's gynecological services. It provides abortions for those seeking them so why would they assist in adoption services? If you want to know what their policy is regarding somebody who hasn't made up their minds about abortion, why don't you contact them and ask? And if would be irresponsible, in my opinion, to refer to a "crisis" pregnancy center because they appear to dissuade women from abortions and as the law stands, abortion is still a legal option. Baltimore now requires that these centers post a notice stating that abortion is not considered an option and that seems to make sense but the courts will sort that out.

Posted by: Vanessa at June 15, 2010 6:19 PM


"It provides abortions for those seeking them so why would they assist in adoption services?"

Why is it advertising itself under Abortion Alternatives?

"If you want to know what their policy is regarding somebody who hasn't made up their minds about abortion, why don't you contact them and ask?"

Because there's a large and growing amount of evidence that some of them can't be trusted to tell the truth.

"And if would be irresponsible, in my opinion, to refer to a "crisis" pregnancy center because they appear to dissuade women from abortions and as the law stands, abortion is still a legal option."

Yeah, and women have no problem discovering how to go about getting an abortion. Some of them don't even KNOW there are organizations that will help them get the things they need to have a healthy pregnancy and raise a baby.

Posted by: Marauder at June 15, 2010 6:38 PM


Jill,
I found Problem Pregnancy Inc in yellowpages.com after googling them and finding that they're in Worcester, MA. However, I didn't see Abortion Services tagged to them anywhere. I did see them listed as abortion alternatives. That tag also pulled up several prcs. Interesting

Posted by: Kate S at June 15, 2010 7:04 PM


Heh heh, I have a parody to this letter in mind. do you think there might be copyright issues if I were to parody it on my blog?

Posted by: Rachael C. at June 15, 2010 7:37 PM


This pisses me off. It's not ILLEGAL to own a place that doesn't provide abortions, and it' not illegal to not refer to them. I swear with these kind of people its like there is no other choice out there. They can't imagine an agency existing that doesn't (!!) offer services to kill your child.

Posted by: prettyinpink at June 15, 2010 7:56 PM


Planned Parenthood and other healthcare centers offer abortions and alternatives to abortions, where as CPCs only offer alternatives to abortions.

It makes sense for PP and other clinics to be listed under both categories if they offer both services. It does not make sense for a CPC to be listed under both categories if they only offer one service.

Posted by: KushielsMoon at June 15, 2010 8:22 PM


AWESOME JILL! They are such hypocrites! They also are getting laws forcing CPC's to have signs saying they don't do abortions...How about signs out in front of every mill w/ how many women are dead or maimed or the side effects...Not holding my breath for that!

Posted by: Mary at June 15, 2010 8:24 PM


Marauder -

As for what Planned Parenthood says when a girl comes in sobbing, it's probably along the lines of "Calm down. We can help you. Let's take a blood sample to confirm if you're pregnant or not. then we can talk about if you want to adopt, abort, or carry to term and keep the baby."

Planned Parenthood does offer prenatal care at some of it's clinics. I have a friend who was pregnant at 15, and got all her prenatal care from Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: KushielsMoon at June 15, 2010 8:28 PM



I think the laws that require CPC's to post a sign that they provide no abortion services is beneficial to women who have no desire to set foot in an abortuary but need to find help to make a pregnancy plan. I really see little problem with that type of law. The pro-aborts don't realize it, but it may be hurting their own businesses. Less walk-in traffic for them by unsuspecting pro-lifers....

The continued complaining about CPC's by NARAL will probably help increase awareness of the good works that CPC's actually do and emphasize the contempt pro-aborts have for babies. It's a no win situation for NARAL but they don't see it.

Posted by: Janet at June 15, 2010 8:46 PM


Yeah, "The ad no woman should see" lest we lose abortion revenues.

How respectful of women are they really, with their "They're too dumb to tell the difference between an abortion mill."

Posted by: Christina at June 15, 2010 9:27 PM


"Calm down. We can help you. Let's take a blood sample to confirm if you're pregnant or not. then we can talk about if you want to adopt, abort, or carry to term and keep the baby."

I can't stop laughing!! Kushiels Moon you are joking right??

Posted by: carla Author Profile Page at June 15, 2010 10:05 PM


Kushielsmoon...I have quite a few friends who aborted at PP. NONE of those PP's even OFFERED any support when my friends said they really didn't want to abort. My friends didn't know about CPC's so feeling that abortion was their ONLY choice because that is what PP told them, they aborted. And it messed their lives up emotionally and in some cases physically. Future pregnancies had complications because of it.

So much for PP offering help to carry to term. Whatever.

Posted by: Sydney M. at June 15, 2010 10:13 PM


KushielsMoon, I was foolish enough to think that maybe Planned Barrenhood would provide prenatal services when I got pregnant with my first. I was informed point-blank that they couldn't provide those services by a phone operator but that they would be able to help me if I wanted to end the pregnancy.

And I live in a large liberal city that is not lacking for PP "clinics". I'm pretty confident that my story is far from unusual.

Posted by: MaryRose at June 16, 2010 12:46 AM


You'd better pick our choice..or else!

Posted by: ninek at June 16, 2010 1:37 AM


Sounds like the typical disinformation campaign that precedes legislative proposals. New restrictions on the way for CPC's?

Posted by: Gerard Nadal at June 16, 2010 2:28 AM


I am a "CPC" advocate, and when women call and ask for an abortion (despite the fact that we are ONLY listed under abortion alternatives, not services, etc.) the first thing out of my mouth is, "Our center does not provide or refer for abortions."
Then, since we are interested in her as a person- and not just making a quick buck like a mill typically does - it's "It sounds like you think you might be pregnant. Have you had a positive test?" And we go from there. Ladies, I have not in ten years had someone "end up at the wrong place" because of our misinformation.
A CPC should be straightforward about what they do or don't do, but if you really want to treat women with decency let THEM ask the questions. Guess what? Not every woman calling for an abortion actually WANTS one. And it is primarily those women that we serve. Keenan, if you're so concerned about "choice" than you should be thrilled every time a woman who (VOLUNTARILY) sees an ultrasound, and was only going to choose abortion because of pressure or ignorance, chooses to carry the pregnancy. And if they don't, we are still there for them, months or years later. It's a mission of love ladies.

Posted by: Anna at June 16, 2010 7:37 AM


I was talking with a friend who operates a ChickFilA in our community.

I asked her/him if he knew how his gross sales compared with the nearby McDonalds which has slightly more floor space and is open 24/7.

(ChickFilA's are not open on Sunday's and generally only operate 16 hours a day.)

He/she said he did not have access to the exact dollar amount differenc between the his store and the adjacent McDonalds, but he did know that when his store opened the gross sales at the McDonalds dropped 40%.

GOD honors those who honor HIM.

(I'm not dissin' Mickey D's. 'Eat more cows' if that satisfies your cravings.)

The 'dead babies r us' mob are as jealous of the success of the Crisis Pregnancy Centers as much as they are upset about the lost revenue.

The CPC's are a constant reminder that the liberal feminazi'a and feministas do not represent all women.

That is a bee constanly buzzing in their bonnets that annoys them to no end.

Posted by: yor bro ken at June 16, 2010 7:38 AM


Anna,
Thank you so much for all of the help and support and care that you give to women! It is all about love. God bless you!

Under Abortion Alternatives in my phone book it says

Businesses appearing at this heading provide assistance and/or information on abortion alternatives. They do not provide abortion services or information on obtaining an abortion.

I had a friend that became pregnant and didn't know what to do. She did not want an abortion but was told that her local PP could help. The only thing they offered her was ABORTION! Big surprise there! She left and 9 months later had a baby girl.

Posted by: carla Author Profile Page at June 16, 2010 7:56 AM


In many states abortion clinics advertise under "B" for "Birth Control", under "G" for gynecology, under "A" for abortion and so on. I did a little research years ago, when I lived in a county with 19 abortion clinics. I Wrote the names , phone numbers, and addresses of each advertised abortion clinic from the yellow pages. Then I did the same for clinics advertising under "Birth Control" , etc. Guess what turned up? They had the same address and phone # but different names, depending on the Ad. One might be (Not the real names - examples only) "A Choice for Woman" or "Abortion Consultation Center" so that they come up early under "A", then that same clinic might advertise as "Birth Control Center" to come up under "B" or "Birth Control" , that same abortion clinic might then advertise as
"Gynecology Services for Women" to appear under "G" or "Gynecological services" and again as "Women's Clinic". You see- the deception, the profit driven abortion industry wants to capture each woman no matter where her eyes land on the page. In fact, I also went to the white pages where these false names were listed as well - even more numerous than in the yellow pages. Another way of falsely advertising is that they will state the "Doctor" is "Board Certified" - when he isn't - and often when no doctor is even on staff. Speaking of Doctors, look up the abortionists names under "Gynecology, Birth Control, Physicians, etc" and the ads for the same "Abortion clinic" location appear only they mislead by not mentioning abortion, isn't that fraud as well? The clinics will advertise, "Safe, Legal" abortions in their ads when they know that abortion is NOT always safe (Just read the consent forms). I Can recall one instance where I held state records of a criminal charge against an abortionist who claimed they were a NAF member. So , I called NAF to verify they were a member. When I mentioned I had copies of where this "Doc" had been arrested they told me that I had bad information being passed around by "Ant-choicers". They denied this man had done anything wrong despite the facts that he made the local TV News and newspapers and was disciplined by the state medical board. NOPE - Blame the anti-choicers and send the poor unsuspecting woman into that mill. Jill- keep on this - NARAL, NAF and these people need to be exposed ! Maybe they will stir the hornets nest and awaken all pro-lifers to file complaints about their "misleading" ways. I hope so !

Posted by: Anonymous at June 16, 2010 8:40 AM


You will not see the word Abortion written on a University of Wisconsin Health site where it lists procedures done by abortionist Caryn R. Dutton (who thankfully is leaving my state but unfortunately for MA will be joining theirs).

Abortionists should be required by law to put the word 'Abortion' in any advertisement that lists their name because many patients would not go to these butchers for anything if they knew everything about them.

Proaborts complaining about CPC ads is just a ruse to keep people from focusing on the "doctors" they have working on their side. These "docs" and their clinics know that associating themselves with the A-word is not a positive.

http://findadoctor.uwhealth.org/findadoctor/profile.jsp?provider=5913

Posted by: Praxedes at June 16, 2010 9:24 AM


Praxedes,
We are both in WI!! Are you on facebook?

Posted by: carla Author Profile Page at June 16, 2010 9:28 AM


An ad no woman should see, huh? Talk about "trying to force your morality onto other people" - and, what, the poor fragile things are so weak they just can't handle it?

You're right, Maurauder, we're accused of "not trusting women", but yet NARAL, etc. have to be "protected" from the e-vell CPC's. Give me a break!

I used to work on a hotline for Catholic Social Services and I would say UPFRONT that the organization did not offer abortions (I would assume that people would know that an organization with "Catholic" in its name would be prolife, but I just wanted to make things clear).

Posted by: phillymiss at June 16, 2010 10:03 AM


Excellent post! I agree with what others have said about the "trust women" mantra of the pro-aborts. How can this be taken seriously if, in the next breath, they claim women would be confused so easily about what center to go to and what to do with the information they receive. The pro-aborts seem to only want 1 option for women (so much for choice!)

Posted by: laura29 at June 16, 2010 10:31 AM


As for what Planned Parenthood says when a girl comes in sobbing, it's probably along the lines of "Calm down. We can help you. Let's take a blood sample to confirm if you're pregnant or not. then we can talk about if you want to adopt, abort, or carry to term and keep the baby."


For real Kushiels???? I would like to start calling these clinics and crying to them on the phone.....I don't think "adopt" is even in their vocabulary. I'd assume it's on a list of "what not to say." How naive to even think they'd say such a thing.

Posted by: luvmy6kids at June 16, 2010 11:48 AM


And if would be irresponsible, in my opinion, to refer to a "crisis" pregnancy center because they appear to dissuade women from abortions and as the law stands, abortion is still a legal option.
Posted by: Vanessa at June 15, 2010 6:19 PM

Is it "irresponsible" for substance abuse outreach programs to address alcohol use because it's legally permissible for adults to drink?

Posted by: Fed Up at June 16, 2010 12:24 PM


Perfect, Fed Up!

Posted by: luvmy6kids at June 16, 2010 12:26 PM


The whole email sounds so desperate and histerical... I'm wondering - do pro-aborts feel their grip on womens choices is slipping? It seems like they're clutching at straws here... Is CPC a competition to them? Please.... And really, they should stop calling themselves pro-choice, as most don't really support any choice except abortion. And if the whole choice is 1, it's not really a choice.

Posted by: Vita at June 16, 2010 12:37 PM


Amen, Vita!!
They are absolutely losing their grip.

Posted by: carla Author Profile Page at June 16, 2010 1:05 PM


Posted by: KushielsMoon at June 15, 2010 8:28 PM

"I have a friend who was pregnant at 15, and got all her prenatal care from Planned Parenthood."

--------------------------------------------------

And I have a friend whos says former philanderer in chief Billy Boy Clinton did not have sex with that woman......Monica Lewinsky.

Posted by: yor bro ken at June 16, 2010 1:44 PM


Kushiels Moon,
Your assignment is to call a PP sobbing and tell them you are pregnant and don't know what to do. Report your findings. You go, girl.

Posted by: carla Author Profile Page at June 16, 2010 3:27 PM


Anti-abortion lawmakers in Congress have determined that federal taxpayers poured at least $967 million into family planning organizations such as Planned Parenthood over the last eight years —

www.mysanantonio.com/news/politics/family_planning_groups_use_of_us_tax_money_is_targeted_96432969.html

Let see now b.o. has only been undocumented alien in chief for a year and a half.

But he was in the U.S. Senate for at least a year before that so b.o. was involved for at least 3 or 4 of the 8 years.

Mary,

How long have the democRATS controlled both houses of Congress.

Then there is the question: How come George W. Bush did not veto any of the spending bills that authorized this expenditure of federal funds?

Posted by: yor bro ken at June 16, 2010 7:25 PM


Praxedes - I was under the impression that the University of Wisconsin Health was not yet offering abortions. Why would they list abortions on their site if they do not yet offer them?

Carla- Sorry, I can't fake tears and I don't feel the need to prove something I already believe to be truth.

Posted by: KushielsMoon at June 16, 2010 7:39 PM


KM,
You believe to be true that PP offers everything from A to Z when you aren't sure that every PP offers everything from A to Z?

I have a mind to start calling them myself. :)

Posted by: carla Author Profile Page at June 16, 2010 7:47 PM


Carla, I will call my local one tomorrow and let you know what I find out.

Posted by: Sydney M. at June 16, 2010 8:51 PM


"I was under the impression that the University of Wisconsin Health was not yet offering abortions."

Who knows? They are sneaky and lie so darn much it's hard to say what is really going on.

I'm under the impression they can't be trusted.

Posted by: Praxedes at June 16, 2010 9:11 PM


"It sounds horrific."

Oh, yeah. A desperate woman being comforted and offered extensive (How many abortion centers offer free baby clothes, ultrasounds, adoption help, and so on?) FREE support so that her and her baby can live.

A baby is saved! How TERRIBLE!

Posted by: Nulono at June 17, 2010 8:01 AM


Rachael C., go ahead and parody away! Parody is "fair use" under U.S. copyright law.

Posted by: Nulono at June 17, 2010 8:15 AM



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