Dear Jill,

Merck started making their polio vaccine from foetal cells in the early 1960s and other vaccines also included them before 1988.

Most of us who have been involved in this movement have seen regressive autism after vaccines since the 1950’s and none of them had foetal cells in them. Even today, we see regressive autism in children who have had vaccines which do not have any foetal cells in them.

When the anti-vaccine movement swings from one branch to another, grasping at one straw, dropping it, and then picking up another one, is it any wonder that Dr Paul Offit considers them to be indulging in pseudo-science?

People who speculate on this, are doing themselves and the rest of us responsible writers not good at all.

Cheers.

Hilary,

The polio vaccine of which you speak was introduced in the UK and other European countries beginning in 1979, right at the time the first autism rise became apparent.

In the US that polio vaccine was approved but never sold. The US only began using it later in a combination vaccine. Interestingly oral polio vaccines using aborted fetal cells don't seem to be associated with a subsequent rise in autism. Residual DNA wouldn't cross the digestive tract.

As you can see, the situation is very complicated, and each country has to be investigated.

Thanks.

Jill,

You've got me stymied here. I detest the use of cell lines from aborted fetuses for any use at all, and I love the article. However, a mechanistic problem that I have with the timelines as presented is this:

Prior to 1990, the diagnosis of autism wasn't usually made until a child was around 7 years old. Thus, we would see a lag of about 7-8 years from the introduction of the vaccine in question until the rise in diagnoses in the earlier days.

A further complicating factor is that prior to 1990, most states had very uneven laws regarding mandatory vaccination. It's hard to see where the connections could be made in that environment, where the cases came from regarding vaccinations.

Still, we have been lied to by the National Cancer Institute regarding the link between abortion and breast cancer. We have been lied to about condom efficacy by CDC. So now we have a huge vaccine industry and a rise in autism to frightening levels, from 1:10,000 children a generation ago to 1:140 today, my son included.

It's pure BS to suggest we are better at diagnosing it today. These children present with starkly frightening symptoms that are not easily missed. A two-order of magnitude jump in two decades is a serious, serious, serious problem.

The multi-valent shots, seven diseases in one visit at two months of age may well be behind some of this, as it produces a tidal wave of chemicals from the white blood cells that go to the brain to do things like induce malaise and fever. Swamping such an immature brain like that borders on criminal. This may explain the mitochondrial DNA defects being discovered in autistic children.

If some of the vaccines are contaminated with cellular debris, who's to say...

Great article Jill. You've managed to do what great scientists are supposed to do:

Shed light on suspicions, promote debate and further inquiry. Too bad if the pro-aborts can't handle it.

I'm in a little over my head here, so I apologize for the stupid question. I understand that the original vaccines were developed using DNA from intentionally aborted fetuses. Are additional fetal cells used in the mass production of the vaccine? How many aborted fetuses are involved here - the original two or more? (Not that "only" two lives is unimportant). Again, I just want to understand. Thanks.

Here it is, straight from Merck's web site:

Merck Vaccines, M-M-R II
http://www.merck.com/product/vaccines/home.html

Patient Product Information
http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

Reference Footnote #1 on Page 10
(referred to from Paragraph 2 on Page 1)
http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf#page=10

Hi Jill and Gerard,

We have also seen an increase in the routine use of ultrasound. I am convinced this could well be a factor.

Also, for how many years were children misdiagnosed or not diagnosed at all? "Quirky" "loner" "nerdy" problems with social interactions could all well have been undiagnosed autism.

I don't rule out the vaccines certainly, I just think there are so many factors its hard to draw much of any conclusion.

A fascinating study in autistic savants was shown on I believe, TLC TV. It was a set of identical autistic savant twins in their 50's with the exact same abilities to give a day to any date going back hundreds of years and with an incredible memory for music. They shared an obsession with Dick Clark, and could tell you what suit the man wore on what day. As children they were diagnosed as "retarded". Also, special education was certainly not what it is today so whatever potential these women was never realized.
They do function at a 6th grade level however even without special schooling so I question how "retarded" they really are.

This would certainly suggest a genetic factor.

The more answers we have the more questions we have to ask.

Gerard Nadal at April 28, 2010 5:08 AM

"Swamping such an immature brain like that borders on criminal."

I totally agree. Babies need to be protected from getting several shots at once. I think that it's patently obvious that it's too much. Would you want to get seven shots at once? I wouldn't! If a person researches how many vaccines were administered to children when he/she was a child, you'd be surprised how many more vaccines babies/toddlers are given these days. These days, I think that parents can work with doctors to at least stagger the administration of the vaccines. It's certainly worth considering.

Fifteen years ago, my family pediatrician recommended staggering vaccinations, in the same way that a parent introduces new foods to their babies, one at a time, so they can identify allergies should they arise. It only makes sense to do it that way.

This company uses fetal cells in the beauty products. This is horrific.

http://www.neocutis.com/categories.php?catid=91

Get the word out and boycott them.

This web site has an article directly related to this post. It is chilling to think of the demonic forces that are now being released against the unborn.

Please read:

http://parablesblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/hells-pharmacy.html

Hi folks,

I really do think this whole area should be revisited and a newer/far-better strategy than vaccination be employed. Our almost total reliance on vaccination to improve immune function is highly problematic.

Newborns have no immunity at all because an active immune system would reject their own womb as being 'foreign' tissue. Colostrum initiates several processes, immunity is one of them. This type of formation is without any kind of vaccine, but it can be improved to incorporate polio, etc. This kind of immunity is multidimensional and attacks problem microbes from many standpoints eg. many microbes have a very narrow temperature range of survival.. So once found, a troubling microbe will often be killed by an immune-induced fever.

There are several things we can do to greatly lessen our reliance on this questionable practice (vaccination). A) promote the use of colostrum/first breast-milk ; b) improve the disease-fighting capacities of colostrum. [Colostrum's effects are often cross-species AND can be taken by folks at any age and even those with milk intolerance.]

[For my friends who have seen my posts on a zinc-deficiency induced depression(maternal) linked to human-fetal development, should realize that zinc usage is also critical to proper immune function. Please note, the vast increase in zits during puberty. There are many mood swings here even without the physical burdens of teen-pregnancy (with periods of high-zinc-use for the developing baby.]

There are of course simple strategies to overcome almost all bacterial/fungal assaults. Try some oil-pulling (find on Internet). To the oil add 2-3 drops of wild oregano or clove, or thyme.

Who funds that idiot loud mouth Marcotte?

I remember reading of a study discussing the correlation between rising cancer rates and vaccines.

I chose to have my children vaccinated but if I had to do it over again I would pass on vaccination.