UPDATE, 3:40p: Just received a link to this very disrespectful April 14 letter to the editor by Terry against Bishop D'Arcy. Am adding that to my list of grievances against him.
Ah, gee. I frankly wish Randall Terry would go away. Most of the pro-life community has shunned him for lots of reasons. My biggie is he's lowdown suing Troy Newman for Operation Rescue's name, such a pathetic waste of energy and money.
Recently I added to my list Terry's disrespect of and subsequent disavowal by Archbishop Raymond Burke.
So Terry has a penchant for getting arrested... thinks it's the way to go... so 1990s. There are noble reasons to get arrested (Pastor Hoye), and then there is Terry's reason: attention. He gives pro-lifers a bad name when he pulls stunts like this.
From WSBT.com, this afternoon:
Anti-abortion activist Randall Terry bonded out of the St. Joseph County Jail Friday afternoon after being arrrested earlier in the day for trespassing on the University of Notre Dame campus....
Terry posted a $250 bond, a jail spokesman said. He is scheduled to appear in court at 8 a.m. May 19.
Terry was arrested about 12:20 p.m. near Notre Dame Law School for violating a campus no-trespass order Notre Dame had issued him earlier in the day, university spokesman Dennis Brown said.
Notre Dame Security Police placed him in a security vehicle and delivered him to the jail.
Terry and some followers were protesting President Barack Obama's upcoming commencement visit to the Catholic university. Group members were pushing baby strollers containing dolls covered in fake blood when the arrest occurred.
Terry, a Catholic convert, has been in South Bend since late March to protest Obama's planned visit and acceptance of a Notre Dame honorary degree. Because of Obama's pro-choice stance regarding abortion and his support for fetal stem-cell research, opponents say the university shouldn't be honoring the president.
Randall and some followers conducted a similar protest with the dolls in baby strollers Thursday.
I don't like the dolls and fake blood business either. The reality of abortion is bad enough. There's no need for visual hyperbolics.
[HT: Arina; photo courtesy of the Tribune]
I soooo agree with you!Posted by: WI Catholic at May 1, 2009 3:33 PM
I do have some sympathy with Terry. He has been in this for so long. WRT the arrest, I have often imagined that 300 Catholic Bishops bite the bullet and call their flocks to just shut down the killing industry. Imagine their 'letters from a xxx jail'. I would not allow them to go alone - I promise, if they shut down the killing centers, I would go with them. If we believe that abortion and slavery are equally a violation of human rights, can we do less?
God bless you,
Dave, I appreciate your sentiment, but Terry hasn't "been in this for so long." He was in a long time ago and then got out for good reasons. He may have decided to get back in but is out of touch and has burned a lot of people.Posted by: Jill Stanek at May 1, 2009 3:43 PM
Ive never been fond of his tactics either Jill. his statement regarding Bishop D'Arcy was way out of line. Bishop D'Arcy is a shepherd and a GOOD one at that, to publicly rebuke him like that is an act of disobedience. Something that RT knows A LOT about.
RT is full of anger and rage- and IMHO a very dangerous man, not only to the PL cause, but to himself and those around him. Its about conversion of heart and helping those who need help. He lost his humility and he lost my support.
Randall Terry gives Pro Lifers a BAD NAME. Unfortunately, its people like him who make Janet Napotalanio (sp?) put pro lifers on terrorist watch lists and have the media paint the peaceful protesters as radical crazies.
Violent anti-Obama groups arriving in South Bend
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer
May 1, 2009, 00:18
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(WMR) -- According to sources with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the U.S. Army, and the White House, a number of members of violent pro-life groups are streaming into South Bend in anticipation of protests during the commencement address of President Barack Obama at Notre Dame. Obama is scheduled to give his address at Notre Dame on May 17.
In anticipation of Obama’s address and his being awarded an honorary degree from Notre Dame, a number of right-wing groups, including Catholic anti-abortion and anti-stem cell research groups, are ratcheting up tensions in South Bend, according to our sources.
WMR has learned from FEMA sources that the city of South Bend has indicated that due to its severe financial situation, it is unable to provide the necessary police security for Obama’s speech. Notre Dame campus security has apparently accepted responsibility for Obama’s security during his visit to the campus, although primary presidential security will be in the hands of the Secret Service.
What is worrying to some federal law enforcement and emergency preparedness officials is the violent groups that will be present both within South Bend and on the campus of Notre Dame during the president’s address to graduating students. And these groups are being egged on by well-financed conservative groups, including the Cardinal Newman Society and Brent Bozell’s Media Research Center. However, the real fear of federal security agencies is the rhetoric being voiced by professional troublemaker Randall Terry and perennial political candidate Alan Keyes. Terry and Keyes are both right-wing Catholics.
Terry has threatened to make Obama’s speech into a “circus” and a “mud pit.” Keyes has called Obama a “radical communist” and has vowed that he and his allies are “going to stop him.”
The anti-Obama rhetoric, coupled with the decision of former George W. Bush ambassador to the Vatican, Mary Ann Glendon, to refuse to share the stage with Obama to receive the university’s Laetare Medal, has alarmed those concerned with Obama’s security. Glendon has rejected the medal that was previously awarded to President John F. Kennedy and actor Martin Sheen.
Newt Gingrich, a recent convert to Catholicism, is also stirring up anti-Obama feelings among Catholics who are opposed to Obama’s speech at Notre Dame. A taste of what is to come at Notre Dame was seen in anti-Obama rhetoric being stoked by Catholics upset that the Jesus “IHS” letters were covered up during Obama’s speech at Georgetown University, which is, like Notre Dame, a Catholic university. The anti-Obama activists are already suggesting that Mary’s statue on the Notre Dame campus will be covered by a tarp during Obama’s visit, further inflaming passions.
WMR has learned that the official who has been put in charge of coordinating Obama’s security at Notre Dame is his deputy national security adviser, John O. Brennan, the former CIA official who helped craft the agency’s torture program for detainees and the head of the firm, The Analysis Corporation, whose State Department contract employee was discovered accessing Obama’s passport file during last year’s presidential campaign. However, the bottom line is that federal security agencies are worried that with the lack of support from the South Bend police and Indiana Republican Governor Mitch Daniel’s state police, there are real security problems surrounding Obama’s speech at Notre Dame.
Obama narrowly carried Indiana over John McCain and Obama bested the GOP candidate in St. Joseph County, the county seat of which is South Bend.
Many FEMA and Army officials have privately expressed the opinion that Obama should cancel his trip to Notre Dame. However, that would also be a victory for the violent anti-abortion groups that want Notre Dame to rescind its invitation to the president.
Obama is reportedly furious that he was not made aware of plans to fly one of his Air Force One Boeing 747s over New York and New Jersey for a “photo op” that was classified by the Pentagon. Our sources in lower Manhattan report that the plane flew dangerously close to a number of high-rise buildings during its classified “joy ride” and panicked thousands of people on both sides of the Hudson River. If the president cannot be assured of control over his presidential aircraft, how can he be assured of his security at Notre Dame?
Story developing.Posted by: Yvonne at May 1, 2009 4:07 PM
Thank you all for your comments. I do not disagree with your sentiments and judgments about Terry. But I still sense the need in me for more action. I have been in the PL movement for 35 years. I really do appreciate all you do. But I search for a new approach- prayer is a great weapon and I do so as often as I can. The more I am down on my knees the more I have in me the need to make a difference. God bless you all.
As you can tell I am Catholic -
OMG. This paragraph is chilling.
" What is worrying to some federal law enforcement and emergency preparedness officials is the violent groups that will be present both within South Bend and on the campus of Notre Dame during the president’s address to graduating students. And these groups are being egged on by well-financed conservative groups, including the Cardinal Newman Society and Brent Bozell’s Media Research Center. However, the real fear of federal security agencies is the rhetoric being voiced by professional troublemaker Randall Terry and perennial political candidate Alan Keyes. Terry and Keyes are both right-wing Catholics."
There is ZERO indication that any of these groups are in any way a threat to the presidents safety. Nor is there any indication of violence. I am going to go out on a limb her and say that Mr. Madsen will be hearing from some lawyers.Posted by: Lauren at May 1, 2009 4:12 PM
You are so right - this crap about the threat is just a way to attack peaceful protest - that the Obama administration would like to STOP - Does anyone think, really, that the Cardinal Newman Society is violent? This is typical of the pro-death left. What is a right-wing Catholic anyway? I guess its me - no compromise on abortion on its philosophical cousin slavery. Let's have it out.
God bless you,
WMR has learned that the official who has been put in charge of coordinating Obama’s security at Notre Dame is his deputy national security adviser, John O. Brennan, the former CIA official who helped craft the agency’s torture program for detainees and the head of the firm, The Analysis Corporation, whose State Department contract employee was discovered "accessing Obama’s passport file during last year’s presidential campaign." However, the bottom line is that federal security agencies are worried that with the lack of support from the South Bend police and Indiana Republican Governor Mitch Daniel’s state police, there are real security problems surrounding Obama’s speech at Notre Dame.
Oops, What is left out? One of the people that accessed Obama's passport file was shot to death. Now who is in danger? Shot in cold blood in front of his church in his car.Posted by: xppc at May 1, 2009 4:55 PM
Who the heck are you and what is WMR? You are esentailly incoherent. Ya know, you who support torture and terrorism in the womb are in denial of reality. I will pray for you.
Is Wayne Madsen such a chump that he believes Obama had no knowledge of AF One's's joyride in Manhattan?
If he can't be assured of control over his aircraft how can he be assured of his safety?
Oh please Wayne. Do your job and find out the process, procedure, and planning to even fly AF One.
Obama is either a terrible manager or one incredible liar. Which is it???Posted by: Mary at May 1, 2009 5:24 PM
A committed and devout christian would not let fear and a few thousand angry white voters, right wing extremists, terrorist fundamentalists and anti-choice misogynistic homophobes clinging to their God, their guns and their tea bags keep him from receiving an honorary degree from a christian college. A bonafide christian like pbho knows there is no safer place to be than in Allah's will.
Maybe cicbho will order the USAF pilot of Scareforce One to engage the Cesna towing the pro-life banners in a Portugeese Water Dog fight or bomb and strafe the assembled masses below with water filled condoms.
Guerilla theatre on display for the nation and world and all the dictators and fun loving terrorists to see. al Quaida and the Taliban will be selling tickets.
And the first lady said, Let them eat government cheesecake!
I would not want to be in charge of security for this circus.
I am really starting to sympathize with the grads.
They can all rest in knowing, This too shall pass.'
yor bro kenPosted by: kbhvac at May 1, 2009 5:34 PM
xppc was quoting from the article by Madsen.
I met a pro-life Hollywood actor a few weeks ago. Knowing very little about pro-life activists he asked me, "Do you know Randall Terry?"
I told him I know who he is, I never met him, I don't want to meet him, and me and everyone else know he's a kook.
He was relieved because having not known any pro-life activists himself, the Hollywood Guy thought pro-life activists were just like Randall Terry.Posted by: Cranky Catholic at May 1, 2009 6:33 PM
And yet Jill Stanek goes against the bishop's wishes and encourages people to protest at a university whose faith she is not. Very disrespectful - and sticking one's nose where it doesn't belong. MYOB Ms. Stanek.Posted by: sb res at May 1, 2009 7:26 PM
So protest should only occur where it is welcome and only if the participants are the "right" religion, race, gender or ethnicity?
Seems that when animal wackos protest what fur stores sell they are also sticking their noses where they don't belong and protesting where they are not welcome. Very disrespectful.Posted by: Mary at May 1, 2009 7:30 PM
sb res - Apparently Jill doesn't like Randall's goofy publicity stunt overshadowing her goofy publicity stunt.Posted by: Bystander at May 1, 2009 7:48 PM
I do not believe Obama will show up at Notre Dame on the 17th, he will cancel the morning off the commencement. Pay attention, he will not show.Posted by: s at May 1, 2009 9:39 PM
Excuse me.. Bishop D'Arcy WAS misquoted.. I in fact spoke with him last week at my sons' Confirmation He very much encourages PEACEFUL and RESPECTFUL protests.
and in Defense of Jill... she is the MOST Catholic, non-Catholic I have EVER known! luv you girl!Posted by: Yvonne at May 1, 2009 9:41 PM
Randall Terry lost me when he started going after photographers with the same zeal he had once reserved for rescuing the unborn.Posted by: bmmg39 at May 1, 2009 10:47 PM
Its good to know that Randall Terry and his ilk are still the face of the anti-choice movement. Thank God for Terry and Limbaugh.Posted by: Yo La Tengo at May 2, 2009 12:42 AM
Yvonne, 9:41p: I've heard that before and consider it a high compliment. Thanks for the trust.Posted by: Jill Stanek at May 2, 2009 7:43 AM
"sticking one's nose where it doesn't belong. MYOB Ms. Stanek. "
Excellent advice, sb res. Now follow your own advice and MYOB.Posted by: Bobby Bambino at May 2, 2009 9:09 AM
And yet Jill Stanek goes against the bishop's wishes
How so? The Bishop was opposed to a protest scheduled for Good Friday because that is a holy day set apart for prayer, fasting, and worship. You are twisting his statement to imply that he opposes all protest.
and encourages people to protest at a university whose faith she is not.
That statement makes sense only if you mean to suggest that Jill isn't a Christian or that Catholics aren't Christians. Your statement also shows ignorance of the Catholic perspective on our protestant brethren.
According to 1267 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, "Baptism incorporates us into the Church. From the baptismal fonts is born the one People of God of the New Covenant..."
According to 1271 of the CCC, "Baptism constitutes the foundation of communion among all Christians, including those who are not yet in full communion with the Catholic Church: 'For men who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in some, though imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church. Justified by faith in Baptism, [they] are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church.' "
So if Jill's baptized, she's a member of the same Body of Christ to which Catholics belong. And, even if she isn't baptized, she's more Catholic in her pro-life commitment than the majority of those who have full membership in the Catholic Church. She's a sister in Christ whom I as a Catholic very much appreciate and she'd be welcome at my Church any time.
Posted by: Fed Up
at May 2, 2009 9:30 AM
Good Morning Fed Up,
You certainly make valid points in your post.
However, its irrelevant what Jill or anyone else's religion is. Protest is a right and the only time the left has any qualms or "sensitivity" on this subject is when its their ox being gored.
The abortion advocates on the left had no trouble targetting the Catholic Church when they needed a common enemy around whom they could rally their supporters. Even Dr.Bernard Nathanson was appalled at the blatant bigotry.
They can dispense with their sanctamonious claptrap about being respectful and highly selective "sensitivity".Posted by: Mary at May 2, 2009 9:45 AM
However, its irrelevant what Jill or anyone else's religion is.
Hi Mary, I totally agree. I quoted from the CCC only because the Church is sometimes misunderstood as less inclusive than she really is.
I like that. I think that'll be my phrase of the day :)
Hi Fed Up,
I understand. I was saying that more as a general comment, not directed at your post specifically. Sometimes things don't come across the internet quite the way you meant to say them :).
All this sudden "concern" by the left is laughable, given their own history of protest and disrespect.
I'm glad you like my phrase! I always thought that just about summed it up.
Free speech is another issue. Who are the people, viewing themselves as bastions of tolerance, who will defend free speech when it consists of pornography, obscene "art", foul mouthed movies, and offensive disc jockeys, but will scream for "fairness" in broadcasting when Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Michael Savage have millions of listeners while liberal talk radio falters?
Again, the real issue is who's ox is being gored.Posted by: Mary at May 2, 2009 10:33 AM
Randall Terry needs a muzzle. He is not behaving in a respectable manner. His over the top antics are not helpful. He is a trouble maker and frankly not helping in the battle of ideas. He is wasting the time and energy of many good people and making it more difficult for Pro Life Advocates to be taken seriously. I think he is being selfish and trying to grab as much attention for himself as possible. He doesn't play nice with others, and makes it more difficult for Pro Life advocates to work effectively. He needs to take a class in learning how to treat others with respect and common decency.Posted by: Matt Helgeson at May 2, 2009 1:44 PM
That Randall Terry showed up with some bloody dolls shouldn't matter a fig to you, Jill. Don't you think Notre Dame (Our Mother) at least appreciated the effort behind the "visual hyperbolics"? I don't think Randall Terry has any more of an inflated ego than any of the other pro-life "stars," and although his ways may not be like yours, I've heard he truly cares ... just like you do ... about the children and their mothers. It is the devil that wishes to separate those who work to end abortion from one another. Not God. I'm certain it wasn't He who had you start off your post with, "Ah, gee. I frankly wish Randall Terry would go away."Posted by: maggielee at May 2, 2009 4:03 PM
If "Yo La Tengo" (again, apologies to the actual band) is the face of the pro-choice movement, the other side will be in pretty good shape.
Pedro the Lion
bmmg39, Wow, Pedro the Lion. That takes me back to Highschool!Posted by: Lauren at May 2, 2009 11:27 PM
Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but these "stunts" are all you folks have left.
People are tired of the side show..the little dramas...the screaming objections to world class health care.
You're like the tourist who finds themselves trying to speak to a foreigner. You're not understood, so you speak louder. It's comical.
The nation is moving forward...away from this issue.
"People are tired of the side show..the little dramas...the screaming objections to world class health care. "
We already have "world class health" care in our country. You must mean "socialized medicine".Posted by: Janet at May 3, 2009 4:12 PM
I suppose you could call it "socialized medicine" if that makes you feel less uncomfortable with the truth. It's medicine for our society...all of our society.
And no, we don't have world class health care. Unless you're rich.
It's coming soon though. We are going to catch up to the rest of the developed world on this issue. It's well over due.
Do you realize the wealthy in these socialized medicine countries use their wealth to buy better care or simply travel elsewhere, like to the United States?
Now, if they have such "world class health care" in their countries, why pray tell do they come here? Also, do the low income people of these countries have the same option?Posted by: Mary at May 3, 2009 5:19 PM
Farslowe said, "[Socialized medicine is] medicine for our society...all of our society. "
Ha, ha, ha! Well, laughter's free, and they do say that laughter's the best medicine.
Under President Obama, liberal socialists, even the lazy ones, may eventually get a dose of their own medicine. They will eventually be unable to find someone else to force to pay for their expenses. The children of conservatives can only do so much before they collapse under the debt that socialists are heaping up for them. What about the children of socialists? Big-government liberals don't have many--or they do, even prolifically, but force abortions. They conscript the children of conservatives and subject them to socialist propaganda in the schools.
Under communism (extreme socialism?), everybody is equally poor and equally brainwashed. Why can't we be pro-choice like the capitalists? Whoever would force giving is actually taking, really stealing, and causing misgivings (to say the least). Conservative Americans have a long record of generous donation. Unlike the socialists, they give from their hearts, with themselves, for others.
The leech has two daughters, "Give," "Give." (ancient proverb)Posted by: Jon at May 4, 2009 3:17 AM
Farlowe said, "[Socialized world class health care is] coming soon though. We are going to catch up to the rest of the developed world on this issue. It's well over due."
But is it sustainable?
The May 1 edition of California's Orange County's Register included "Obama Looks Moderate, Acts Radical" by Mark Steyn. Here are two excerpts.
Thirty years ago this month, a grocer's daughter from the English Midlands became Britain's female prime minister – not because the electorate was interested in making (Obama-style) history, but just because nothing worked any more. The post-1945 socialist settlement – government health care, government automobile industry, government everything – had broken down: Inflation over 25 percent, marginal taxes rates over 90 percent, mass unemployment, permanent strikes. The country's union leaders were household names, mainly because they were responsible for everything your household lacked. Even moving around was hard: The nationalized rail network was invariably on strike, and you had to put your name on a waiting list months in advance for one of the "new" car models. The evening news was an endless parade of big beefy burly blokes picketing some plant for the right to continue enjoying the soft pampering workweek of the more effete Ottoman sultans.
Margaret Thatcher was a great leader, who reversed her country's decline – to the point where, two decades later, the electorate felt it was safe to vote the Labour Party back into office. And yet, in the greater scheme of things, the Thatcher interlude seems just that: a temporary respite from a remorseless descent into the abyss. In its boundless ambition, the Left understands that the character of a people can be transformed: British, Canadian and European elections are now about which party can deliver "better services," as if the nation is a hotel, and the government could use some spritelier bellhops. Socialized health care in particular changes the nature of the relationship between citizen and state into something closer to junkie and pusher.
Mark Steyn then goes on to give the example of "Phil from Cathedral City, Ca." who was enraptured by the president's "bold initiatives" for health care. But Phil or his children will eventually have to be disillusioned:
The problem in the Western world is that governments are spending money faster than their citizenry or economies can generate it. As Gerald Ford liked to say, "A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have." And that's true. But there's an intermediate stage: A government big enough to give Phil from Cathedral City everything he wants isn't big enough to get Phil to give any of it back. That's the stage the Europeans are at: Their electorates are hooked on unsustainable levels of "services," but no longer can conceive of life without them.
Farslowe says, "We are going to catch up to the rest of the developed world on this issue." How about some of that sustainable development that liberals are so fond of touting? Do we really want "to catch up to the rest of the developed world"?Posted by: Jon at May 4, 2009 5:48 AM
Lauren: "bmmg39, Wow, Pedro the Lion. That takes me back to Highschool!"
I assume Pedro the Lion was a fictional character of some type. My reference is to the college-rock band of the same name. If "YLT" can impersonate indie-rock bands and pretend to speak for them, then I figure so can I.
No no, I'm talking about the band too. I was a fan in highschool.Posted by: Lauren at May 4, 2009 11:06 AM
Farslowe, how dare you state that only rich people get good health care in this country? I work at an inner-city county hospital that takes care of ANYONE regardless of ability to pay. We also have the largest and most respected burn center west of the Rockies. You get burned, you want to be at my hospital... and we don't require ability to pay in order to receive our high level of quality care.
In fact, many of my patients families are refugees from third world countries. And we have had many families who DO have money remark on how surprised and pleased they were with the level of care received at our hospital.
So, you can keep believing the propagandist lies about the American medical system.
I'm going to keep spending my nights giving the best quality care to the children of immigrants, refugees, the indigent, the poor, the homeless, the middle class, in fact, any child who shows up at our facility in need of medical care.Posted by: Elisabeth at May 4, 2009 11:36 AM
You're saying that every American, regardless of social or economic situation, has access to high quality, free health care ?
Can you give me the number of your supplier ?
I definitely need some of what you're smoking !
Posted by: bmmg39 at May 4, 2009 10:48 AM
Posted by: Yo La Tengo
at May 5, 2009 1:42 AM
Pretending to speak for a band? Jeez, man ... you take this so seriously. It's just the internet. Thanks for the laugh though. i would have called myself Sleater-Kinney but that would be dating myself - no one remembers Riot Grrls anymore.
Jill, the first word that comes to mind is hypocrite. You ask people to donate money for the plane (a very noble cause I may add) then below that you trash Randall Terry for the visual use of bloody dolls. At least he approaches the issue as a matter of life and death as it is. I can truly say that he is doing what he is because he genuinely is trying to save the babies. We need more people like him, not less, and supposed pro life people like you who criticize make it less likely and futher divide our movement.Posted by: Kathy at May 5, 2009 7:22 PM
Everybody likes to pile on Randall Terry. The guy's doing a fine job. As regards the Archbishop Burke flap, Terry did nothing more than show the interview video to the public. What else was he supposed to do with it? Archbishop Burke just felt embarrassed before the US bishops for his forthright condemnation of abortion. Embarrassed! Now you'll have to go into an industrious tapdance in order to hammer out distinctions between Terry's arrest at Notre Dame and that of Alan Keyes (see http://www.cfnews.org/keyes-arrested.htm). Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander. Since when do feminists have the moxie of a Terry or a Keyes?Posted by: Rick Holly at May 9, 2009 6:39 PM
Excuse me I was an unwanted unborn from the New York Catholic Church in 1951....so I "know" from "in the womb"...this nurse person, this 'jill' is a fraud and worse than men on both sides of the issue church and state. Please so what you held a baby for one hour. Give me a break!!!!! You need to search your soul. What is stopping you from adopting a child. Any child. An 'hour' and you're broadcasting your 'selfless and saintly act everywhere'. When God wants life delivered. Life is delivered. I suggest you either nurse or not or politick or not.... but promoting yourself and your own agenda insults my womanhood my motherhood my catholicism and definitely insults by unwanted roots in my mother's womb. Lady, my daughter is receiving an MA from a Catholic College today and we've CHOSEN not to go to the commencement. However, if Kathleen Sebelius were to be the speaker, nothing would stop me and the fruits of my womb from being there. As for Bill O'Reilly marketing you, all New Yorkers know too much time around low tide got to the brain of those brats from Levittown!!!!!!Posted by: patricia obrien at May 17, 2009 11:41 AM
Why are you so angry, Patricia? Why do you call Mrs. Stanek a fraud? The baby that she held for an hour died. Mrs. Stanek gave it some motherly attention before it died, and I'm sure she wished that she could have saved it. But then she did try to save many more babies like it! She was influential in the Illinois BAIPA and continues to work to save babies today, also through adoption. Some of the moderators on this site, like Bethany, have expressed their willingness to adopt. They obviously don't have to adopt, but they will if their adoption means that a baby can live.
Kathleen Sebelius, on the other hand, advocates death for unwanted children. Do you really want her to be the role model for your daughter? Why? If you are a Roman Catholic, then you will follow Roman Catholic teaching. Roman Catholic teaching is very pro-life! You're not a fraud, are you?Posted by: Jon at May 21, 2009 7:59 AM