Pro-aborts speculate on Obama's cabinet picks

After lamenting President Bush's various pro-life cabinet picks - such as Tommy Thompson at Dept. of Health and Human Services followed by Michael Leavitt, Eric Keroack at Population Affairs (family planning) followed by Susan Orr, Andrew von Eschenbach at the Food & Drug Administration, and John Ashcroft as Attorney General - Kay Steiger at (Ted Turner-funded) RH Reality Check yesterday listed names being speculated to head President-elect Obama's cabinet.

sebelius tiller 2.jpgDept. of Health and Human Services

[F]ormer SD Sen. Tom Daschle, National Democratic Committee Chairman Howard Dean, and KS Gov. Kathleen Sebelius [pictured right with late-term abortionist George Tiller at a party she hosted in his honor at the guv's mansion].

All 3 are whopping pro-aborts. Dean interned at a Planned Parenthood. Sebelius has been late-term abortionist George Tiller's biggest protectioner. Daschle, Steiger wrote, is the favorite.

Secretary of State...

Two of those Obama is said to be considering are Sen. Richard Lugar and Sen. Chuck Hagel. Both are Republicans that have earned a 0% rating from NARAL.... Democrats... Obama is likely considering are Sen. John Kerry and NM Gov. Bill Richardson, who both ran on pro-choice platforms during their presidential campaigns. Kerry seems to be a leading candidate to fill the position.

Lugar has a 75% rating from National Right to Life. Hagel earned 100%.

Attorney General

Those considered for attorney general are former Clinton Attorney General Eric Holder, Rep. Artur Davis, a socially conservative and anti-choice Southern Democrat, and Gov. Janet Napolitano, who has been congratulated by NARAL for protecting access to birth control in AZ.

Food and Drug Administration

This quote comes from Bloomberg, not RH:

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Susan Wood [pictured left at an October 2006 Planned Parenthood of North TX event with its board chair Naomi Aberly on right], co-chairman of Obama's advisory committee for women's health... resigned as the top U.S. regulator for women's health in 2005 in protest of the FDA's delay in clearing over-the-counter sales of the "morning after'' emergency contraceptive. Sale of the pill, called Plan B, without a prescription was held up for more than two years....

Critics of the FDA have named Wood as among candidates they would like Obama to consider for the agency's next commissioner.

More on Susan Wood from Family Research Council:

Wood, who is vehemently pro-abortion, is rumored to be the next commissioner of the FDA. Three years ago, Wood was at that very agency, heading the Office of Women's Health. When her boss postponed a plan to make "emergency contraception" available to teen girls over the counter, Wood resigned in protest. She was outraged that the FDA wanted to delay sales until they could ensure that children under 16 could not access the drug without medical supervision. Under Wood's authority, the FDA would err as she does-on the side of abortion advocacy, not American safety.

Her influence in the Obama administration could also mean the end of pro-life measures in our global AIDS policy. In a speech, Wood claims the U.S. has been "going in the wrong direction" on PEPFAR. While leaders in Africa have universally praised Bush's emphasis on abstinence and monogamy, Wood hints that the new president will implement a condom-based approach "not just this narrow, political ideology." That would be bad news for Africans.


Comments:

Obama has always been interested in Lincoln's cabinet. Lincoln surrounded himself with people with opposing view points so he could better understand issues by hearing different views.

A famous quote from Lincoln was, "Better to have your rivals inside your tent pissing out then outside your tent pissing in."

Posted by: Jess at November 12, 2008 10:08 AM


Then he should appoint at least one PRO LIFE cabinet member if he wants to have the same sort of cabinet as Lincoln, if Lincoln had OPPOSING views in his cabinet. Obama is so far to the left, its scary.

Chuck Hagel is one of Nebraska's former
senators. :)

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 12, 2008 10:14 AM


Daschle! South Dakota REPRESENT!

Posted by: Rae at November 12, 2008 10:23 AM


I don't think abortion and "life" issues will be on the radar of the Obama Cabinet. As far as I'm concerned, he can put a few pro lifers on there.
As I said before, I imgaine Obama is satisfied with the status quo, he'd be crazy to stir the pot for no reason.


Posted by: Hal at November 12, 2008 10:48 AM


you all need to read your history.. Obama is far left for "today"---but 30 yrs ago, he would not of been considered as far "left"-- True leftists would not be in the same catagory as Obama...

We had a SUPER far Right administration for so long, that anything towards the "left" seems intimidating or out of the ordinary... When really.. even Clinton wasn't a "true leftist"--

Posted by: Anonymous at November 12, 2008 10:54 AM


It seems to be an unhappy aspect of the human condition that vast numbers of human beings who spend nine months of their lives in their mothers' wombs, are lucky enough not to be destroyed by abortion violence during that very vulnerable period, are born and grow up to reach adulthood. Once they become adults (or even earlier when they reach adolescence) they turn back toward the young unborn generation and start supporting unlimited ruthless violence toward their fellow human beings who are coming after them. They do this awful thing apparently to satisfy deep-seated psychological needs.

It would appear that we humans as living beings have some deeply entrenched, severe and innate psychological, moral and spiritual defects. These spiritual and moral defects may never be able to be eradicated from the human psyche.

This is the rather unhappy nature of the reality that we face when we try to end abortion criminal violence in this or any other society.

Posted by: Joe at November 12, 2008 11:02 AM


The governor actually had an event in honor of Tiller? He's responsible for thousands and thousands of deaths! That ought to get her front runner status for a job with the new culture of death administration.

And does anyone believe for one second that NObama will pick a Republican for a cabinet position? Not a chance!


Speaking of Tiller, recently I googled to get his web site and I was totally shocked at this.

http://www.drtiller.com/chap.html

They actually have a "chaplain" on staff and "blessings" for the baby they have just killed? That would be like the Nazis "blessing" the people they had gassed.

I always knew abortion was evil, but only recently have I discovered just how evil. And things are about to get much, much worse.

Posted by: Joanne at November 12, 2008 11:21 AM


Hal,
As far as I'm concerned, he can put a few pro lifers on there.

Are you turning pro-life now that your buddy is in office?

Posted by: Janet at November 12, 2008 12:12 PM


Hi Janet, not pro life, but "tolerant" of pro life views. Plus, with Obama in office I don't see a danger of moving backwards, so I see no need to move at all. I think the election of Obama takes abortion off the table as an issue. Which, I understand, is why so many here are so upset.


Posted by: Hal at November 12, 2008 12:16 PM


Hal,
How can you say abortion is off the table as an issue when Obama is planning to turn back the clock to 1973? Will you not believe it until you see it, oh doubting Thomas?

Posted by: Janet at November 12, 2008 12:31 PM


I suspect Planned Parenthood will select an abortion proponent. They own the Whitehouse.

Posted by: xppc at November 12, 2008 12:35 PM


We'll see Janet. I'd be surprised, but it could happen. I'm only predicting with no real insight.

Posted by: Hal at November 12, 2008 12:36 PM


Hal,

If the abortion debate stays where it is, even for 4 years of Obama, I would be very happy honestly. Obama is poised to make some radical changes. Im hoping he does nothing, as he has for the better part of his short career in politics, but Im afraid that he will almost have to considering that he owes a good portion of his election to abortion proponents.

Posted by: Oliver at November 12, 2008 1:10 PM


Abortion proponents should be happy the way things are. Is there a woman out there who wants an abortion but can't get one?

Posted by: Hal at November 12, 2008 1:13 PM


Hal you know that very few women TRULY WANT an abortion. Many are coerced into the abortion by their parents or the father of the child or even their employer. Many are EXPECTED by society to abort. Many fall for the old tale "you can't raise a baby" right now.

Very few women WANT abortions. What they are lacking, but very much need is LOVE and Support, financial and emotional specifically.


Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 12, 2008 1:18 PM


I'm not sure about that Liz. A woman with an unwanted pregancy may indeed want an abortion. Others, I'm sure, feel pressured to have one. I'm with you on the need to help support those who don't want an abortion find another way. Maybe Obama's administration can help with that.


Posted by: Hal at November 12, 2008 1:23 PM


Unplanned Pregnancy can bring Unplanned Joy.

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 12, 2008 1:38 PM


Liz, i agree. It can.

Posted by: Hal at November 12, 2008 1:57 PM


if it weren't for two "unplanned pregnancies" I would probably not have two of my cousins; both of them are adopted.

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 12, 2008 2:20 PM


My husband wouldn't be here. Well, I wouldn't have a husband then would I?

Posted by: Carla at November 12, 2008 3:33 PM


If the abortion debate stays where it is, even for 4 years of Obama, I would be very happy honestly. Obama is poised to make some radical changes. Im hoping he does nothing, as he has for the better part of his short career in politics, but Im afraid that he will almost have to considering that he owes a good portion of his election to abortion proponents.

Oliver, I think Hal is right - most people are good with the way things are now, and there's no great pressure to change much.

FOCA would codify the Roe decision into law, and most people want Roe to remain in force, as well.

Some of the restrictions from the states have found to be unconstitutional along the way, and some have passed muster. The ones that are in line with the Roe decision would not be negated by FOCA, so no big change.

The main thing FOCA would do would be to stop a good bit of the attempts at chipping away at women's rights.

Posted by: Doug at November 12, 2008 7:08 PM


You mean FOCA would take away the right to vote for women? The right to go to a CO-ED college?

Killing an unborn child is NOT and SHOULD NOT be a right.

How many couples in the USA can't have children and would gladly adopt a baby from a crisis pregnancy? Quite a few I suspect.

How many couples are forced to go overseas for adoption because of poor adoption laws here? Many!

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 12, 2008 7:19 PM


Doug,
Are we on the same blog?
Have we taught you nothing? :)

FOCA wipes out ALL of the prolife legislation in every state!!! My abortion story helped to pass many of those laws.

End rant.

Have you watched my abortion story yet on Youtube, Doug?

Posted by: Carla at November 12, 2008 7:49 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLUadlbAuI

Posted by: Carla at November 12, 2008 7:55 PM


((((((Carla))))))

I just watched your testimony. You are brave. I'm sending you big, huge, cyber hugs and a round of applause.

:-)

angele

Posted by: JAN at November 12, 2008 8:43 PM


Oh, thank you Angele!!! Thank you for watching. It means a lot to me. Hugs right back to you.

Posted by: Carla at November 12, 2008 8:57 PM


Doug,

Some of the restrictions from the states have found to be unconstitutional along the way, and some have passed muster. The ones that are in line with the Roe decision would not be negated by FOCA, so no big change.

This is false. Where do you come up with this explanation?


Posted by: Janet at November 12, 2008 9:36 PM


Doug, Are we on the same blog?

Yes, Carla.
.....


Have we taught you nothing? :)

No, you've taught me some things. I've also seen people pretend that more is there in a document than what really is the truth.
....


FOCA wipes out ALL of the prolife legislation in every state!!! My abortion story helped to pass many of those laws. End rant.

No, if you read it, you'll see that's not true.
.....


Have you watched my abortion story yet on Youtube, Doug?

Yes, Ma'am I sure did, not long after you asked me to, and I replied:

C: Please watch my abortion testimony. We'll have coffee and talk.

"Carla, I watched it, and I think you did a good job. As with your blog, you were quite straightforward, I think.

I don't deny any of your experience, and the only thing I take issue with is the generalization that "abortion hurts women."

Posted by: Doug at November 11, 2008 10:23 PM

Posted by: Doug at November 12, 2008 10:05 PM


"Some of the restrictions from the states have found to be unconstitutional along the way, and some have passed muster. The ones that are in line with the Roe decision would not be negated by FOCA, so no big change."

This is false. Where do you come up with this explanation?

Not false, Janet, and we've had this exact same conversation before. Tell you what - read the text of the proposed FOCA, and explain how it would "wipe out all pro-life legislation" etc.

Posted by: Doug at November 12, 2008 10:07 PM


Doug

Abortion DOES hurt women. There was a woman who had to have an emergency hysterectomy following a botched abortion a year ago in Nebraska.

Then there was the black woman who nearly died from Sespis infection after an abortion at Tiller's infamous abortion mill.

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 12, 2008 10:12 PM


"Abortion DOES hurt women. There was a woman who had to have an emergency hysterectomy following a botched abortion a year ago in Nebraska. Then there was the black woman who nearly died from Sespis infection after an abortion at Tiller's infamous abortion mill.
-Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 12, 2008 10:12 PM

Liz, two examples are not justification for claiming that all abortions hurt women. I know that there are several other instances of death or medical injury, but it does not happen in the MAJORITY of circumstances. ALL medical procedures incur potential harm. That doesn't mean it should be banned.

You can find other reasons to protest abortion, but 'women die and get infections' is not one of them because its rare. Just say, "I think it's immoral." Good enough.

Posted by: Danielle at November 12, 2008 10:28 PM


Then he should appoint at least one PRO LIFE cabinet member if he wants to have the same sort of cabinet as Lincoln, if Lincoln had OPPOSING views in his cabinet. Obama is so far to the left, its scary.

Chuck Hagel is one of Nebraska's former
senators. :)

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 12, 2008 10:14 AM


Why should Obama appoint the opposition when he won more states than Bush in in his last term when Bush claimed he had "a mandate"? Democrats won in the former confederacy for the first time since Civil Rights. The republican party is now a rural backwater party. The Democrats owe them nothing less than disdain.

Posted by: Yo La Tengo at November 12, 2008 10:29 PM


*shakes head*

I am sure there were people that thought slavery wasn't evil, back in the day. They probably tried to use the same arguments.

Those who defend abortion remind me of Holocaust Denials: They can't HANDLE THE TRUTH.

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 12, 2008 10:42 PM


re: LizFromNebraska at November 12, 2008 10:42 PM

Tell that to the southern states which held onto segregation. It was those laws, opposed by LBJ that delt the final blow to the democratic party, as the republicans became the standard barer party for "states rights". Oh, and playing the nazi card only diminishes the actual horror inflicted by the nazis by your overuse of the non-apt comparison. It's even more diminished when it is done in caps.

Posted by: Yo La Tengo at November 13, 2008 12:42 AM


Abortion hurts women. Abortion hurts men. Abortion kills a growing child. I will say it until the day I die.

Not 2 stories Danielle. Thousands. Operation Outcry has the largest body of evidence in the world. Thousands upon thousands of declarations that are used in prolife legislation.

Abortion Changes You, Silent No More, Operation Outcry...google em. We are growing in number and will continue to speak out.

Posted by: Carla at November 13, 2008 5:46 AM


Dear women who are hurting from abortion,
You are not alone although it may feel like it. You have been told to move on, get on with it, forget about it. But you can't. When you have an abortion part of your soul dies, your baby dies and you have to shove it all somewhere.

The Dougs(hi Doug)of this world have not been through what you have been through. Your story is important. Your child is important. You can find recovery.

Please reach out for help. Please call the National Helpline for Abortion Recovery 1-866-482-LIFE. You will be heard. There is help and hope and healing for you.

You can reach me as well. I have prayed for the day when I can link arms with all of the women who have gone through what I have gone through. Today is the day.

Posted by: Carla at November 13, 2008 6:59 AM


Women are not a monolith. What is bad for one women may help many more.

Posted by: Wichita Linewoman at November 13, 2008 7:05 AM


Thank God that women are a monolith! He wants hearts of flesh.

A good mother welcomes all her children. A bad woman welcomes all her men.

Posted by: Jon at November 13, 2008 10:43 AM


correction:

Thank God that women are not a monolith! He wants hearts of flesh.

A good mother welcomes all her children. A bad woman welcomes all her men.

Posted by: Jon at November 13, 2008 10:44 AM


The Dougs (hi Doug) of this world have not been through what you have been through.

Well Carla, that's certainly true. Haven't experienced what all the women who are glad they had abortions, on balance, did, either.

Posted by: Doug at November 14, 2008 12:01 AM


Still waiting for someone, anyone to tell me how abortion helps women. Empowers them. Solves their problem. Gladdens them.

Posted by: Carla at November 14, 2008 7:05 AM


OH and Doug,
That heart felt letter was to those that regret their abortions. The ones that are contemplating suicide, having nightmares, drinking heavily, depressed, alone and anxious because they had an abortion.

The ones that are glad they had abortions can keep walking on sunshine. One day if they ever feel regret I will be there for them too.

Posted by: Carla at November 14, 2008 7:11 AM


Carla,
God bless you for your patience.

Posted by: Janet at November 14, 2008 10:37 AM


Daschle! South Dakota, REPENT!!!

Great comments, Carla; and let's not forget the women who would have regretted their abortions but could not because they died from them too soon; so their survivors got to do that regretting for them.

YLT, downplaying the Nazi "card" diminishes (in perception, not in reality) the horror of the slaughter of the unborn...but that is what you lying proaborts intend, isn't it? The fact is, the whole deck is stacked in favor of prolife comparisons between the Nazi holocaust and the abortion holocaust.

Both holocausts were preceded by propaganda campaigns intended to dehumanize (again, in perception, not in reality) the targeted victims. Both Jews, the handicapped, and others killed in Nazi death camps were referenced as "human weeds", "useless eaters", "parasites", "diseases", "lice" and other mere animals (in today's present death culture, even animals are treated with more respect than unborn, or disabled, human beings). Disease metaphors were especially useful since they actually painted the execution of the victims as a "service to humanity", and whitewashed the Jekyll-Hyde, government authorized transformation of the medical community into a gang of hired contract killers.

The Nazi's victims were not given the dignity of a burial until after the end of WWII, when Allied troops forced many surviving Germans to see, smell, touch, and bury mountains of decaying human flesh. There was also a considerable market for the victims' body parts; hair was woven into rugs and other items; shrunken heads made convenient paper weights, etc. Many of the Nazi victims were killed in medically worthless or counter-productive, bogus "medical experiments": There is a considerable market for the bodies/ parts of aborted children for various medically worthless experiments/projects; in parts of the orient, they are actually canned, sold and eaten. Many embryonic human beings have been created just for purpose of harvesting their stem cells for experiments which have proven to be medically counterproductive. Other parts have been harvested for use in cosmetics.

Twice in the history of western civilization has the Hippocratic Oath, with it's clause prohibiting any harm to unborn humanity, been discarded for a "quality of life" anti-ethic; the first was right before Hitler's rise to power; the second surrounded the passing of Roe v. Wade. Both these holocausts were based on eugenics/social Darwinist idiology.

I could go on and on and on with these parallels, but will have to save that for another post. But do at least try and get your facts straight before you make another post, if simply for the sheer novelty of the experience.
It'll do you good.

Posted by: Wachet Auf! at November 14, 2008 11:03 AM


That heart felt letter was to those that regret their abortions. The ones that are contemplating suicide, having nightmares, drinking heavily, depressed, alone and anxious because they had an abortion.

The ones that are glad they had abortions can keep walking on sunshine. One day if they ever feel regret I will be there for them too.

((((Carla))))

That was a great answer.

Posted by: Doug at November 14, 2008 1:31 PM


Right back atcha, (((Doug))).

Posted by: Carla at November 14, 2008 2:26 PM