Eliot Spitzer unzipped

I feel as I did the day pro-abort KS Attorney General Paul Morrison was caught in an affair and forced to resign: vindicated.

spitzer%20and%20wife.jpgIt has been on the news all afternoon. NY Gov. Eliot Spitzer has been caught on tape arranging a liaison with a prostitute. He hasn't resigned yet, but that should come soon. He came clean at a short news conference, pathetically propping wife at side.

Spitzer, a rabid pro-abort, is infamous in pro-life circles....

As attorney general in 2002, Spitzer tried to scare crisis pregnancy centers out of business by launching a very public investigation accusing them of "misleading advertising and inappropriate medical counseling." Spitzer's crusade, however, was a public relations nightmare from which he quickly retreated.

Most recently Spitzer has been pushing a bill he introduced last April - at a NY NARAL luncheon, of course - called the Reproductive Health and Privacy Protection Act.

This radical bill would wipe out all abortion restrictions in NY. It would force doctors to commit abortions, force all hospitals - even Catholic - to commit abortion, force insurance companies to cover abortion, force employers to purchase abortion coverage, authorize late-term abortions for "health" reasons, authorize non-doctors to commit abortions, allow the over-the-counter sale of the morning-after pill to minors, and more.

And today, in honor of the National Day of Appreciation for Abortion Providers, Spitzer was scheduled to meet with Family Planning Advocates of New York State to promote this heinous legislation. (Click on image to enlarge.)

But alas, prevailing prostitution problems forced Spitzer to cancel.

We can only now hope Spitzer's bill peters out like he did, indeed a fitting day for that.

If Spitzer falls, the NY abortion cartel will also take a tumble.

[Photo of Spitzer and wife courtesy of Reuters]


Comments:

Wasn't this guy on the Colbert Report one time? I can't wait to see what Colbert says about this!

Posted by: prettyinpink at March 10, 2008 6:51 PM


I don't think it's very nice to call his wife pathetic. I mean this is obviously embarrassing for her, and she didn't do anything wrong that we know of.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 7:10 PM


Jess, I didn't mean it that way. I meant he was pathetic to do that to her... "wife pathetically at side?"

Posted by: Jill Stanek at March 10, 2008 7:25 PM


Given his secret hobby as a professional pimp, it is no surprise that he would also be an ardent promoter of abortion.

Posted by: TonyM at March 10, 2008 7:26 PM


"pathetically propping wife at side." Better?

Posted by: Jill Stanek at March 10, 2008 7:27 PM


How "pro-woman" of you to call his wife pathetic.

Posted by: reality at March 10, 2008 7:30 PM


Eliot Spitzer, yes, this guy is a rabid pro-abort, very tight with the abortion industry. He's quite arrogant too, once implying he was smarter than all of the other governors. Kinda like Morrison.

Posted by: Jasper at March 10, 2008 7:30 PM


Jess, I didn't mean it that way. I meant he was pathetic to do that to her... "wife pathetically at side?"

Posted by: Jill Stanek at March 10, 2008 7:25 PM
......................................................

She couldn't have possibly chosen to stand by him. Any women that forgives her husband for something like this is pathetic? Would you like to force her to divorce him?

Posted by: Sally at March 10, 2008 7:31 PM


"pathetically propping wife at side." Better?

Yes better thank you.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 7:33 PM


"Eliot Spitzer, yes, this guy is a rabid pro-abort, very tight with the abortion industry. He's quite arrogant too, once implying he was smarter than all of the other governors. Kinda like Morrison."

@Jasper: Naaaaaaaah. We all know Gov. Pawlenty is the smartest governor of them all!

RE: The topic at hand

What a tool.

Posted by: Ari-chan at March 10, 2008 7:35 PM


Apparently the Pope's releasing a new list of sins. Let's pray for another John Paul.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 7:36 PM


Actually having his wife at his side makes him seem all the worse to me. It's one thing if you're having dangerous illegal sex with someone, but it's even worse when you're involving another presumably innocent woman in it, one who you vowed to honor and cherish.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 7:46 PM


@Jess: A new list of sins? I wonder what that will contain... and I wonder how many of them I've probably committed...

Posted by: Ari-chan at March 10, 2008 7:48 PM


Jess,

have you been going back church? thats good news if you are.

God-Bless.

Posted by: Jasper at March 10, 2008 7:54 PM


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23557650/
"In olden days, the deadly sins included lust, gluttony and greed. Now, the Catholic Church says pollution, mind-damaging drugs and genetic experiments are on its updated thou-shalt-not list."
paranoidNo way am I given up my anti-depressents. I don't know if that's what they mean, but I definitely can't be myself without them. Without them I'm just so hopeless and paranoid.

@jasper
I haven't started yet, but I'm going to the Easter vigil with my parents.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 7:59 PM


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23557650/
"In olden days, the deadly sins included lust, gluttony and greed. Now, the Catholic Church says pollution, mind-damaging drugs and genetic experiments are on its updated thou-shalt-not list."
paranoidNo way am I given up my anti-depressents. I don't know if that's what they mean, but I definitely can't be myself without them. Without them I'm just so hopeless and paranoid.

@jasper
I haven't started yet, but I'm going to the Easter vigil with my parents.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 7:59 PM


Sorry that first paranoid wasn't supposed to be there. Ehn : /

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 8:00 PM


Jess, when it comes to religion, the mainstream media has an IQ of zero. I would completely blow off the msnbc article.

Posted by: Bobby Bambino at March 10, 2008 8:05 PM


OMG CNN is talking about this guy and his wife right now! Quick turn it on!

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 8:07 PM


It's on Fox News too. This guy has daughters.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 8:09 PM


Well crap, I am sinning then. I do genetic experiments on bacteria.


Oh well...

Posted by: Ari-chan at March 10, 2008 8:10 PM


"In olden days, the deadly sins included lust, gluttony and greed. Now, the Catholic Church says pollution, mind-damaging drugs and genetic experiments are on its updated thou-shalt-not list."

Confession booths getting a bit lonely these days?


http://thericatholic.com/stories/895.html
One of the sad developments in the recent history of the Church is the demise of the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Catholics don’t go to confession nearly as often as they used to. Monthly confessions are a thing of the past. Some Catholics hardly ever go. And some have abandoned the sacrament altogether. What a sad loss for the Church and its members, and just the time when we need it most!


I guess we can postulate many reasons for the decrease in confessions.


It begins, I believe, with the failure to recognize the reality of sin and the harm it creates in the world and in our lives.


Perhaps it involves a lack of understanding about the role of the Church and its sacramental life. How often have we heard someone ask, “Why do I have to tell my sins to a priest? I confess directly to God.”


Maybe the Church hasn’t emphasized enough the necessity of sacramental confession. (When was the last time you heard a homily about the need for confession?)


Maybe there’s been some misunderstanding about the various forms of the Sacrament, and some Catholics may be confused about “how to make a good confession.”


Perhaps Catholics are just too busy in their daily lives to practice their faith, a reality that affects Sunday Mass attendance as well as confession.


Whatever the reasons for the decline in the Sacrament of Reconciliation it’s high time we rediscover its usefulness in our lives,

Posted by: JLM at March 10, 2008 8:11 PM


But Jill, since Spitzer is a Democrat, isn't this just "personal, private behavior"? Shouldn't Spitzer be lauded for his honesty? After all, all he really did was help to "employ minorities", plus he proved how committed he is to the idea that "women have the right to do whatever they want with their bodies".

And I have to wonder how correct the media is about "the pope" talking about these "new sins". Usually the media lapses into a PVS when they talk about the Catholic Church. They can't seem to tell the difference between "the pope", "the Vatican", "some bishop at the Vatican" and "an official document from the pope/Vatican". An analogous situation would be them thinking that if George Bush scribbled something on a napkin, that's the same as him signing a bill into law.

Anyway, from what I've read, these "new sins" are not really new sins. It's sinful to destroy the Earth? It's sinful to abuse drugs? It's sinful to mess around with human life? Wow, talk about shockers. I'm almost certain that the media is being stupid again in this situation.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 10, 2008 8:11 PM


Bobby said: "Jess, when it comes to religion, the mainstream media has an IQ of zero. I would completely blow off the msnbc article."

Bobby, you beat me to it!

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 10, 2008 8:13 PM


Jill, how "vindicated" does it make you feel that Republican Larry Craig is still a sitting US senator despite being cited for soliciting gay sex in an airport bathroom?

For whatever vitriol you might have felt toward Spitzer for his abortion stance, his downfall is a loss to all of us. He has spent the bulk of his career crusading for citizens, consumers, and other living people, not large corporations.

Posted by: Ray at March 10, 2008 8:13 PM


Ari-chan said: "Well crap, I am sinning then. I do genetic experiments on bacteria."

Ari-chan, please tell me you're joking. I just want to hear it from you.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 10, 2008 8:15 PM


JLM, ok, just for you I'll go to confession as soon as possible. I have to find a strange priest, I don't want one I'm going to see all the time. I wish you could do this online : (

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 8:16 PM


Ray said: "He has spent the bulk of his career crusading for citizens, consumers, and other living people, not large corporations."

Just Planned Parenthood. But, that's right, Planned Parenthood, NARAL, NOW, etc are "the people", not special interests.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 10, 2008 8:17 PM


...and lest you get overly high-nosed about family values among conservative politicians, I give you:

http://fromtheleft.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/the-top-10-republican-adulterers/

The Top Ten Republican Adulterers!

Posted by: Ray at March 10, 2008 8:17 PM


I'll watch Raymong Arroyo on the "world over" (EWTN) to the correct information about the new sins....

Posted by: Jasper at March 10, 2008 8:18 PM


Ray, I don't know why you libs are so obsessed with Republican adulterers. Your least favorite Republicans are all faithful husbands. George Bush, Dick Cheney and Rick Santorum are probably the three you find most loathsome, and yet none of them have committed adultery. So please, spare us your phony outrage.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 10, 2008 8:23 PM


"Ari-chan, please tell me you're joking. I just want to hear it from you."

What do you think I'm joking about? Doing genetic experiments on bacteria or the sinning because I do said genetic experiments?

Posted by: Ari-chan at March 10, 2008 8:25 PM


Why do so many married people cheat? Why when they're supposed to be good Christians and conservative?

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 8:28 PM


Jess,
LOL!

Posted by: JLM at March 10, 2008 8:29 PM


While I would never celebrate sin, I can't help but think God's timing in exposing this was providential! Go God!

Although, I don't see what the big deal is. Sex is good, and healthy right? Why should it be confined to marriage? I'm thinking his wife needs to get with the times. It's not like he was having an emotional affair with someone. Just a little roll in the hay...Our tax dollars didn't pay for it tho, did they?

Posted by: mk at March 10, 2008 8:29 PM


Jess,
(LOL on the 8:16 PM post)

....just to clarify!

Posted by: JLM at March 10, 2008 8:30 PM


JLM,


Whatever the reasons for the decline in the Sacrament of Reconciliation it’s high time we rediscover its usefulness in our lives,
Posted by: JLM at March 10, 2008 8:11 PM

Did you say "we"?

Posted by: mk at March 10, 2008 8:32 PM


Ari-chan, I want to know if you were joking when you implied that the Vatican has just declared that genetic experiments on bacteria are sinful.

Genetic experiments on humans are sinful, but not genetic experiments on bacteria. But if you were serious, I wonder how many other people got the same wrong idea out of that article.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 10, 2008 8:33 PM


"Our tax dollars didn't pay for it tho, did they?"

yes, they did MK.

Posted by: Jasper at March 10, 2008 8:34 PM


What outrage, John? That was sarcasm!

You know what does piss me off, though? Hypocrisy!

So if you are going to talk about Eliot Spitzer, then I am going to talk about Larry Craig. If you are going to talk about Paul Morrison, I am going to talk about Homewrecker Hyde. In each case, there is a huge difference between the former and the latter. Know what it is? In each case, the former, aka the Democrat, left office after his indiscretions had been revealed, while the latter aka the Republican stayed in office. Would you care to express some pride in that set of facts?

Posted by: Ray at March 10, 2008 8:35 PM


Jess,

I have emailed you a couple of times but the emails come back undeliverable...have you changed your email?

Posted by: mk at March 10, 2008 8:36 PM


(LOL on the 8:16 PM post)

....just to clarify!
-----------------
Good for a second I thought you were just laughing at me : )

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 8:37 PM


"Although, I don't see what the big deal is. Sex is good, and healthy right? Why should it be confined to marriage? I'm thinking his wife needs to get with the times. It's not like he was having an emotional affair with someone. Just a little roll in the hay"

yea, whats the big deal.

Posted by: Jasper at March 10, 2008 8:37 PM


@John: I didn't even read the article, I just heard from somebody on here "genetic experiments" were on here...didn't know the content of said genetic experiments. :)

Needless to say I was being sarcastic anyway, if that helps you feel any better.

Posted by: Ari-chan at March 10, 2008 8:38 PM


No it should be the same... I'll add it to the email address in the post. Tell me if you get it.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 8:39 PM


Jasper,

"Our tax dollars didn't pay for it tho, did they?"
*
yes, they did MK.

Well that's different....now I'm ticked! lol

Seriously tho, I'm sorry to see his wife and kids hurt, and I'm thrilled that it means he can't go through with his proposal...but I must agree, the actual prostitute thing is pretty mainstream at this point. After Bill in the Oval Office, this is pretty tame.

Sad, but tame.

Just reconfirms that I am truly counterculture!!!

Posted by: mk at March 10, 2008 8:39 PM


Ray, yes, that's right. Hypocrisy - that's one of the two sins you liberals believe in, right? The other one is judgementalism. That's why liberals have no standards; if you have no standards, you can neither be a hypocrite nor can be you judgemental. Anyone with standards is automatically judgemental and has the potential for hypocrisy. Talk about "new sins"...

Oh, and yes, I noticed how Bill Clinton resigned after his affair.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 10, 2008 8:41 PM


Wow, that was really bad grammar:

"I didn't even read the article, I just heard somebody on here say "genetic experiments" were on the list. I didn't know what kinds of genetic experiments were considered 'sinful'."

That's what it should have said. Pardon the convolution.

Posted by: Ari-chan at March 10, 2008 8:43 PM


I feel so sorry for Spitzer's wife. She looks so terribly sad. And the daughters, what do you tell the daughters???
What a total cad this guy is but I suspect she's known that for some time now.
Been there, done that....

Posted by: Patricia at March 10, 2008 8:44 PM


"Seriously tho, I'm sorry to see his wife and kids hurt"

Yes, I agree MK, I wish him and his family no pain. I just would rather see him hold no position of authority.

Posted by: Jasper at March 10, 2008 8:45 PM


Ah but John, Bill didn't have sex, remember?

Posted by: Patricia at March 10, 2008 8:45 PM


Patricia, maybe she thinks she can still change him? Maybe she doesn't believe in divorce? Isn't this ground for an annulment though? I wish we knew more.

Um Jill, we want MORE. Please : )

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 8:46 PM


Jill: Love the post title - I didn't even look at it when it came up!!

Posted by: Patricia at March 10, 2008 8:47 PM


Adultery is not grounds for annulment in the Catholic Church.
However, this is a huge issue of trust.
This man has serious problems.

Posted by: Patricia at March 10, 2008 8:49 PM


further information:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/nyregion/11reax.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html?hp

Posted by: Patricia at March 10, 2008 8:56 PM


MK, you are definitely counterculture! I feel like the king of counterculture when I go into Mass and I'm one of the few late-twenty-somethings in there. At least, one of the few unmarried ones.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 10, 2008 8:57 PM


Good for a second I thought you were just laughing at me : )

I know, right? When I was writing it, I thought it would fall under the right post....but, when I saw where it landed, well....I'm just glad I posted a clarification QUICKLY!!!

:)

mk,

The "we" was a quote from the man who wrote the article. (the story started under the web address)

Posted by: JLM at March 10, 2008 9:01 PM


counterculture is a good thing these days.

Posted by: Jasper at March 10, 2008 9:01 PM


Ray, 8:35PM

Did Democrat Bill Clinton leave office? I recall Larry Flynt, you know, the Hustler Magazine editor who had a cover picture on his magazine of a woman in a meatgrinder, expressed his love and admiration for Clinton. That certainly spoke volumes.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 9:04 PM


MK you never answered me is that a no :(

Posted by: prettyinpink at March 10, 2008 9:09 PM


This story totally reminds me of the birdcage.

Posted by: prettyinpink at March 10, 2008 9:10 PM


Jess 7:46PM

One can only imagine the humiliation, as well as the devastation, his wife must feel. She has her three children to think about as well and has to keep up a strong front for them.
Keep in mind its never the man's fault. If a woman can just be the kind of wife she should be, then something like this won't happen. I'm being facetious!

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 9:23 PM


Right Mary!
I got the bad wife speech from my ex's mom.
If only you were more submissive.....


as they say in LA, "gag me with a spoon"....
My heart goes out to Mrs. Spitzer.

Posted by: Patricia at March 10, 2008 9:30 PM


That's really interesting, after researching, some of the stuff he did in office was pretty cool.

Posted by: prettyinpink at March 10, 2008 9:32 PM


OK, I did a little reading on this case. This isn't like a guy with beer goggles going off with a prostitute while his upper head has insufficient circulation. According to the FBI affidavit, the Guv Spitzer planned this thing and arranged for cash transfers over many communications, and it was for several thousand dollars. Plus he flew her from one state to another (getting into extra troubles with laws prohibiting sex slave trade). So his most well documented meeting is a thoroughly planned business transaction. The person who booked the prostitutes indicated that Client 9 = Spitzer might be the kind to ask the prostitute to do things she might not consider "Safe". The prostitute "Kristen" was OK with this. I wonder how Spitzer's family feels about that. Extra lysol and bleach isn't gonna repair this.


In my view, this finding about Spitzer is no surprise. What would you expect from a guy who fights so hard for unlimited, legalized killing as the means to conceal illicit or illegal sex activities?

Posted by: KB at March 10, 2008 9:34 PM


Mary, I have a friend who slept with a guy who was going out with another girl. She said if his girlfriend was "doing her job" he wouldn't look elsewhere. What is wrong with these men!? Why would you be in a relationship with someone if you weren't satisfied?

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 9:35 PM


"I got the bad wife speech from my ex's mom.
If only you were more submissive....."

AHHH! Arrgh that woman must have had some SERIOUS problems. Good thing you got away from that family.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 9:38 PM


Patricia 9:30PM

And she's so certain her husband never strayed? Its been my experience that women like your ex's mom should keep a closer eye on their own husbands or boyfriends. They may be in for a very rude awakening.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 9:40 PM


Jess 9:38PM

I would suspect that by blaming the girlfriend, they could both "justify" their actions. He wanted some fun on the side, she wanted to "justify" herself.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 9:43 PM


KB, that's soo disgusting.

Let's hope this creep resigns. I read that he might resign tonight!

Posted by: Patricia at March 10, 2008 9:45 PM


Irony? He pursued cases against other prostitution rings before!

Posted by: prettyinpink at March 10, 2008 9:46 PM


What is wrong with these men!? Why would you be in a relationship with someone if you weren't satisfied?


Well, I could tell you what is wrong with these men, but you may get irritated about what I have to say. The reason men do this and feel okay doing it is because there are huge numbers of women who excuse the behavior and ALLOW it. It's a pattern, it happens once, and the gf lets it go and doesn't kick his ass to the curb, he thinks it's okay...then let's say THEY break up..he does it to another girl, because it was no big deal the first time he did it. It's a PATTERN, a LEARNED behavior, an ACCEPTED behavior by women who just want to be "loved" by loser men.

If it destroys a relationship that you have...I think it makes it less likely you'll risk the same kind of thing again. That is, if you have a conscience.

But women excuse it, so the behavior is deemed okay and repeatable.

Posted by: Elizabeth at March 10, 2008 9:46 PM


Well Mary, my poor ex-mother-in-law has suffered quite alot.
They had almost a non-existent family life and really neither of them were capable of raising children.
I think she was at the stage where they were trying to figure out things and finally it was just easier to blame the wife (me).
At the time I was furious and really devastated. It took not a few friends to talk me out of the trees that day.

Posted by: Patricia at March 10, 2008 9:48 PM


Elizabeth I think your comment has some merit. However I would say that these men lack a formed conscience. This man is a predator.

Posted by: Patricia at March 10, 2008 9:52 PM


Yes, Patricia, I have no doubt that there are men who are like that as well...but I think the larger majority of men who exhibit this kind of behavior, do so because they don't have to face any real consequences because of it.

Posted by: Elizabeth at March 10, 2008 9:55 PM


Elizabeth, let's stop excusing it then. If my boyfriend ever did that I would dump him in a second and tell everyone, his family friends, co-workers exactly what he did.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 9:55 PM


Exactly Jess. As would I.

There is a website called dontdatehimgirl.com

Posted by: Elizabeth at March 10, 2008 9:59 PM


I dunno, he may not resign, Republicans have survived worse, as have other Dems, its come to a matter of politics ridiculously enough. He may not resign if its "only" the prostitute, but if public funds etc come into the picture hes done.

Posted by: Dan at March 10, 2008 10:02 PM


Patricia 9:48PM

It was also easier to blame you than hold her darling son in any way responsible.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 10:05 PM


Dan,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there's also the issue of asking the woman to come across state lines to Washington, which made this a federal offense.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 10:09 PM


Mary, that is the speculation I heard on the news: He's holding on to his job at the moment as a chip to the feds.

Posted by: Jill Stanek at March 10, 2008 10:11 PM


Heh, in that picture, Spitzer looks like he's trying to suck his whole body into his mouth and disappear. :)

Posted by: Tony at March 10, 2008 10:21 PM


Patricia, it won't be any residual sense of decency causing Spitzer to resign, but maybe something like illegal funds transfers and interstate trafficking of sex slaves.

And yeah, to Elizabeth. Women need to quit shooting themselves and their sisters in the foot. What woman could support Hillary-for-prez who stood by her serially abusive husband Bill, and enabled him?

Watching the karma ....... and laughing at the visual enhancement from Tony.

Posted by: kb at March 10, 2008 10:33 PM


Uh, David Vitter is still a Republican Senator.
Remember when his Washington hooker and his Louisiana hooker were in a big tussle over who was his primary recreation?
Best part? The man is not only anti-abortion, he's all about abstinence education.

"D.C. Madam controversy
In early July 2007, Vitter's phone number was included in a published list of phone records of Pamela Martin and Associates, a company owned and run by Deborah Jeane Palfrey, also known as the "D.C. Madam", which is accused by the U.S. government of being a prostitution service. Hustler magazine identified the phone number and contacted Vitter's office to ask about his connection to Palfrey.[89] The following day, Vitter issued a written statement:

This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible. Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there - with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way.[90]

The statement containing Vitter's apology said his telephone number was included in phone records dating from his days as a member of the House of Representatives.[3] Phone records show that Vitter's number was called by Palfrey's service five times, the first on October 12, 1999, and the last on February 27, 2001.[91] Two calls were placed while House roll call votes were in progress.[92]

As background, several news outlets reported that in May 1999, Vitter replaced Congressman Bob Livingston after Livingston resigned due to an adultery scandal.[1][93][43] Vitter said about Livingston's decision to resign, "It's obviously a tremendous loss for the state. I think Livingston's stepping down makes a very powerful argument that Clinton should resign as well and move beyond this mess", referring to the Monica Lewinsky scandal of President Bill Clinton.[94] In 2000, his wife, Wendy Vitter, commenting on the same scandal, said, "I'm a lot more like Lorena Bobbitt than Hillary. If he [Vitter] does something like that, I'm walking away with one thing, and it's not alimony, trust me," referring to the incident of Lorena Bobbitt severing the penis of her husband and to Clinton's wife, Hillary Clinton.[93]

On July 10, 2007, Jeanette Maier, the "Canal Street Madam", alleged that Vitter was a customer on more than one occasion in the 1990s, when Maier was identified by federal prosecutors as operating a $300 per hour brothel.[95] The Times-Picayune reported that "Maier offered no evidence or documents to support her claim."[96] Maier said that Vitter "was not a freak. He was not into anything unusual or kinky or weird," and that he favored one prostitute in particular, Wendy Cortez,[97][98][99][100], the name of the prostitute with whom Vitter had been accused, during his 2004 campaign, of having had a lengthy affair. Vitter denied that allegation during the campaign.[101] On July 12, Cortez told The Times-Picayune that Vitter was "a regular customer" during his time in the state legislature, but that they "did not have a romantic relationship." [102] On September 12, 2007, The Times-Picayune reported that the woman, whose real name was Wendy Ellis, had passed a lie detector exam.[103]

Vitter is unlikely to face criminal charges due to the statute of limitations.[104] Vitter apologized to GOP senate colleagues but avoided the press who repeatedly attempted to talk to him. [105]

On November 13, 2007, the attorney for Palfrey served Vitter with a subpoena to force him to testify at a November 28, 2007 hearing about whether an act of prostitution occurred with a Palfrey escort and when.[106][107] The following week, the judge in the case canceled the hearing.[108] Palfrey's attorney indicated he planned to subpoena Vitter to testify at her 2008 criminal trial.[109]

After Senator Larry Craig was admonished by the Senate Ethics Committee for acting improperly after his arrest for lewd contact in an airport bathroom in February 2008, the watchdog group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington questioned why the committee had not taken similar action against Vitter.[110]


[edit] Reaction
While the Louisiana state Republican Party offered guarded support,[111] national Republicans offered forgiveness.[112] The liberal magazine, The Nation, predicted that the Republican Party would be in a "forgiving mood" pointing out if Vitter did step down, Democratic Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco would likely appoint a Democrat to take Vitter's place until a special election took place, thus increasing Democratic control over the Senate.[113][114][115] Margaret Carlson of Bloomberg News agreed, saying that since there is a Democratic governor in Louisiana, "they were afraid if they slapped around Vitter too much, that seat would go Democratic."[116]

Marianne Means, a syndicated columnist for Hearst Newspapers, reported that Republican senators gave Vitter a "loud standing ovation" which she characterized as hypocritical by contrasting this with the Republican attitude toward President Clinton's marital infidelity.[117] The applause came after Vitter privately apologized to his colleagues.[28]

Republican Senator Sam Brownback told Bloomberg Television on October 5, 2007 that Vitter should be censured by the Senate. He said, "I think you could see something like that taking place. If you look at the actual crime itself and the discussion across the country — and as a Republican — this is bad."[118]

Vitter was also criticized by the University of New Orleans College Republicans for holding a second press conference about the scandal at the same time that fellow Republican Bobby Jindal formally kicked off his campaign for governor. They called on Vitter to resign after that action, accusing him of putting himself before the good of the party.[119]

Pro-life stance
Vitter has won praise from pro-life groups for his stance against abortion.[9] In 2001, he co-authored legislation to restrict the number of physicians allowed to prescribe RU-486, a drug used in medical abortions. Vitter said, "The legislation is about protecting women's health" and criticized the FDA for "hurriedly" approving the drug. Several Democratic politicians and pro-choice groups condemned the bill, characterizing Vitter as an "antichoice extremist". The bill died in committee.[10][11]

In January 2008, Vitter proposed an amendment to prohibit the funding of abortions with Indian Health Service funds except in the case of rape, incest or the life of the mother is at risk. These funds were already administratively prohibited since 1982; Vitter's bill would make the restriction federal law.[12][13] Vitter's amendment passed the Senate. If enacted into law, it will hold future presidential administrations to an executive principle first crafted by the Ronald Reagan White House. [14]

[edit] Abstinence education
Vitter advocated abstinence-only sex education, emphasizing abstinence while excluding issues involving birth control and safe sex.[36] He said, "Abstinence education is a public health strategy focused on risk avoidance that aims to help young people avoid exposure to harm...by teaching teenagers that saving sex until marriage and remaining faithful afterwards is the best choice for health and happiness."[37] According to Focus on the Family, Vitter was one of three conservative senators that convinced Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg to withdraw an amendment that would have restricted abstinence education to programs deemed to be "medically accurate".[38][39]

[edit] Same-sex marriage
Vitter believes strongly that marriage is a sacred vow between a man and a woman. In 2003, Vitter proposed to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban same sex marriages.[40] In 2004, he said, "This is a real outrage. The Hollywood left is redefining the most basic institution in human history...We need a U.S. Senator who will stand up for Louisiana values, not Massachusetts’s values."[41] In June 2006, he said "I don't believe there's any issue that's more important than this one ... I think this debate is very healthy, and it's winning a lot of hearts and minds. I think we're going to show real progress."[42] In 2006, he told The Times-Picayune, “I’m a conservative who opposes radically redefining marriage, the most important social institution in human history.”[43]

In October 2005, at a Lafayette Parish Republican Executive Committee luncheon, Vitter compared gay marriage to hurricanes Katrina and Rita, which came through the same geographical areas. Vitter said "It's the crossroads where Katrina meets Rita. I always knew I was against same-sex unions." [44]


[edit] Louisiana Family Forum earmark
Wikinews has related news:
Senator David Vitter to earmark $100,000 for creationist groupIn September, 2007, Vitter earmarked $100,000 in federal money for a Christian group, the Louisiana Family Forum,[63] known for challenging evolution by means of "teaching the controversy" which promotes intelligent design while discrediting evolution.[64] According to Vitter, the earmark was "to develop a plan to promote better science education".[63] Though the Louisiana Family Forum is largely forbidden from political activity due to its non-profit status,[65] The Times-Picayune alleged the group had close ties with Vitter.[63] However, they have criticized Vitter for his support of Rudy Giuliani.[66]

On October 17, 2007, the liberal organization People For the American Way, along with several other groups asked the Senate to remove the earmark.[67][68] Vitter later withdrew it.[69][70]


[edit] Family planning funding
In October 2007, Vitter introduced an amendment[79] barring all funds to health care providers and Planned Parenthood that provide health services (such as contraceptives, Pap smears, breast exams and tests for STDs) in addition to abortions. Federal law bars any funding to directly finance abortions. Vitter argued that the funds are used for overhead costs that benefit the abortion services. The amendment failed to pass.[80][81] Following the rejection, Vitter and others urged the Senate to pass a similar bill[82] introduced by Vitter in January 2007.[83]

Posted by: FetusFascist at March 10, 2008 10:40 PM


Uh, David Vitter... ...blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...

I'm not going to engage you right now, Laura, I'm just going to sit back, with an imported beer in one hand, a fine cigar in the other, with a huge SEG on my face, and bask in the schadenfreude of the moment.

Ahhhhhhh... Sweet.

We can talk about this after I take a day or two to enjoy how this particular turn of events is going to benefit the unborn in New York state, and how the "Sheriff of Wall Street"'s self inflicted political wound is going to splatter every Democrat supporter associated with him, including you. :)

So none of your hateful banter is going to affect me negatively, at least for the next few days.

I hope that Governor Paterson and acting Lt. Governor Bruno - (R) Rensselear can do a better job than Gov. Spitzer has.

Posted by: Tony at March 10, 2008 10:55 PM


From the "do not's" section of the rules of discussion:
"Do not write inflammatory comments just to wind people up."
Boo, you whore.


Lol, seriously I was just crying and that made my day : )

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 10:59 PM


What makes Spitzer a very special pro-abort is that he wants to coerce the unwilling into participation and has taken many political steps to do just that. This leads me to wonder if he also feels that way about sex, (as so many women have charged against former-prez-Bill, for example.)

As so many have already recognized, it's the illegal funds transfers and the interstate trafficking which constitute the legal trouble for Spitzer.

Yawns at Fetus fascist. We're used to most of the politicians behaving like trash.

Posted by: KB at March 10, 2008 11:00 PM


FF,

Bill Clinton, accused of everything from exposing himself to rape, and idol of Larry Flynt, porn king extraordinnaire who has been called the "Josef Goebbels in the war against women" by none other than Gloria Steinem, is a supporter of abortion, funding of abortion here and abroad, PP, and got RU486 sanctioned by the FDA. He also had the support of NARAL and NOW, who remained silent when the women accusing Clinton were attacked as liars, psychotics, bimboes and trailer trash.
A man FF, that I have seen you express your admiration for on this blog.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 11:03 PM


kb, 10:33PM

How true, women do need to stop shooting their sisters and themselves in the foot.
Its been my sad experience though that no one is more vicious to women than other women.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 11:08 PM


I notice on the news when a Democrat is in a scandel, they never disclose their party affiliation, but if it's a Republican they always do.

Posted by: Jasper at March 10, 2008 11:09 PM


Jasper, 11:09PM

I noticed that too. CNN must have repeated the story 100 times and not once did I hear it mentioned that Spitzer was a Democrat.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 11:12 PM


Want more madness...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFxk7glmMbo

Posted by: prettyinpink at March 10, 2008 11:16 PM


Spritzer doesn't surprise me at all, ditto for pro-aborts.

Their support of choice is a cover for wanting to live life their own way, accountable to no one.

They hide behind political correctness, caring for live women, etc., etc., when really they are ravenous wolves inside.

You see, you can't care too much for live women when you're so ready to kill unborn women. Spritzer, I mean, Spitter, is simply reaping what he sowed.

As the Bible says, your sins will find you out. Nothing, and I mean nothing is hidden from God. None of us is going to get away with anything, including me. Confess and confess often. I confess that I am a sinner and in need of forgiveness.

Posted by: HisMan at March 10, 2008 11:24 PM


This guy was angling for the prez job one day. Guess that's not a career option anymore. Amazing how quickly everything can go up in smoke that was so carefully planned. I definitely think hiding behind his wife is a lame move.

Posted by: Allan at March 10, 2008 11:24 PM


I notice on the news when a Democrat is in a scandel, they never disclose their party affiliation, but if it's a Republican they always do.

Posted by: Jasper at March 10, 2008 11:09 PM
......................................................

There was a news flash on ABC this afternoon that mentioned his party affiliation. The CBS news story mentions it. The fact is in the CNN story. Fox mentions it. BCC does to. Perhaps your hearing and reading is selective?

Posted by: Sally at March 10, 2008 11:39 PM


Lol PIP, I'm pretty sure the Greeks fully accepted and even encouraged homosexuality. They lasted longer then a few decades.

Posted by: Jess at March 10, 2008 11:43 PM


HisMan,

I just think there are men on both sides of the abortion issue who, for whatever reason, are willing to risk losing everything for a thrill.
The risk is what makes the illicit sexual encounter all that more exciting.
Look at Jimmy Swaggert, sanctimoniously spouting at Jim Bakker for his illicit romp while he's running in "disguise" for his rendezvous with a $10.00 streetwalker.
I'm sorry to say HisMan, but this behavior covers both ends, and everything in between, of the political spectrum.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 11:44 PM


PIP:

I could care less about who's listening. The real question is who's speaking. God couldn't be more clear when He says this is Romans, Chapter 1:

"18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."

Posted by: HisMan at March 10, 2008 11:47 PM


Sally,

Jasper's hearing isn't selective. After a few hours of watching CNN repeat the same story while at the airport, it wasn't until I got home and switched to Fox news that I found out Spitzer was a Democrat.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 11:48 PM


Excuse me Mary:

Yes we are all sinners, however, I can't excuse what pro-aborts do becasue we all sin.

What Swaggert did was deplorable, however, did he repent?

In a way Splitter kind of confessed, however, do you think he will always be a ravebous pro-abort? Yes, and I will vehemently oppose him and all like him.

Posted by: HisMan at March 10, 2008 11:51 PM


LOL Jess I know!

HisMan, you are entitled to your opinion.

Posted by: prettyinpink at March 10, 2008 11:55 PM


@PiP: I'm about ready to spit fireballs after watching that.

I hope that bigoted old hag's political career is over.

Posted by: Ari-chan at March 11, 2008 12:04 AM


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Homosexuality

When in Rome...

Posted by: Jess at March 11, 2008 12:07 AM


This entire issue of political sex scandals could be solved very easily: Forced castration.

Posted by: Mike at March 11, 2008 12:19 AM


Me too, Ari- but I wouldn't keep my hopes up. I mean Tom Coburn is still alive and well and he once said that lesbianism was the greatest threat to Oklahoma schools. Let's just say I don't plan on going back.

lol Jess we did talk about that when we discussed Lysistrata in lit class!

Posted by: prettyinpink at March 11, 2008 12:19 AM


Mike,

When in Iran..

Posted by: prettyinpink at March 11, 2008 12:22 AM


The Devil is a busy man. This man could still will find refuge in the Sacred Heart of Jesus if
prays to the Lord with his wife and children on a daily basis.

Posted by: truthseeker at March 11, 2008 12:26 AM


The Devil is a busy man. This man could still find refuge in the Sacred Heart of Jesus if
prays to the Lord with his wife and children on a daily basis.

Posted by: truthseeker at March 11, 2008 12:26 AM


The lives of many of these politicians lead to this deviant behaviour because he seperates a man from his family. Fidelity is a practiced behaviour and needs to be tended and strengthened
by spending as much time as possible with your spouse.

Posted by: truthseeker at March 11, 2008 12:32 AM


Holy Spirit shelter us, and guide us on the path.

Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen

Posted by: truthseeker at March 11, 2008 1:05 AM


Proof that the it's a baby and not a blob. And it's hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xF6rWBD85o

Posted by: truthseeker at March 11, 2008 1:43 AM


Given that whore-client Senator David Vitter didn't resign, why should Spitzer resign?

Posted by: SoMG at March 11, 2008 3:33 AM


SoMG, Spitzer shouldn't resign. He should be promoted to a position of high honor within the Democratic Party. After all, he is "the man" because "he made it with a chick". Plus he's a hero, since he "empowered women" by helping them "choose what to do with their bodies". Spitzer should be praised and lauded by the Democratic Party, and should probably be chosen as the Vice Presidential candidate. Just look at Bill Clinton - he seduced a subordinate employee in the Oval Office, rewarded her sex acts with gifts and a promotion, and yet Democrat women fawn all over him. He's like a "rock star" to them, and many of them probably wish that they had been Monica.

But you're right, Vitter should resign. He's a Republican, after all. They've supposed to have standards.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 11, 2008 6:30 AM


Hisman, I just adore you! Your posts are always so awesome:] Thank you for always pointing out that baby "women" are killed in abortion.

Posted by: heather at March 11, 2008 6:58 AM


Its been my sad experience though that no one is more vicious to women than other women.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 11:08 PM************* Mary, how true. It's difficult to form friendships with women. I have more male friends, but I would love to have more lady friends. Some women are cut throat.

Posted by: heather at March 11, 2008 7:05 AM


I don't know why you libs are so obsessed with Republican adulterers. Your least favorite Republicans are all faithful husbands. George Bush, Dick Cheney and Rick Santorum are probably the three you find most loathsome, and yet none of them have committed adultery.

Nice fantasy but let's just look at George W. Bush.

The wingnuts want to believe he's a clean as a newborn puppy but this requires a leap of faith and whole lot of revisionist history.

FACT: Jeff Gannon, AKA, M4M Military Stud for Hire, the infamous male prostitute, spent more than 200 nights sleeping over at the White House. Now, I'll save the denialists the energy, but the Secret Service entrance logs don't lie, so let's not have any lies here.

FACT: When these 200+ sleep overs took place, Laura Bush was safely out of town, either at the Crawford, TX pig farm or at the Bush family coop on Park Avenue in New York City.

Some will believe that Jeff Gannon and George W. Bush just watched old movies on TCM and played poker but let's be serious for a moment. When Bush attended Yale, he was known by members of his fraternity as "Lips Bush." I won't explain the details but if you think real hard, I think you can figure out how and why he earned this moniker.

People in Texas who have known the Bush dynasty and George W. Bush for decades are well aware that his marriage to Laura was arranged by his worried parents who knew their son's future political career would be hampered if the truth about his sexuality became known. Laura became George's "beard."

Posted by: Christopher at March 11, 2008 8:21 AM


The NY tabloids have clever headlines this morning: "Luv Gov" and "Ho No".

Posted by: Carrie at March 11, 2008 8:25 AM


Christopher: Just writing the word fact in bold letters doesn't make the sentence that follows a FACT.

Posted by: Carrie at March 11, 2008 8:29 AM


FACT: Christopher has no proof. (well, maybe it does work, at least in this case)

Posted by: Carrie at March 11, 2008 8:33 AM


HisMan,

My only point is this romping knows no political or religious boundaries. Sure Swaggert repented, and got caught with another hooker.
Spitzer sounded real repentent as well. So did Jesse Jackson. They always are when they've been caught.

The only one I recall as not being particularly repentent was the late Democrat Congressman Jerry Studds, who had sex with a 17y/o congressional male page. I recall he received only a congressional censure and maintained his status in the Congress.

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 8:37 AM


Heather,

I hope you saw my post to you and Sandy on the KKK cartoon thread. It was last nite.

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 8:50 AM


Are you awarw that centuries ago,many
popes had mistresses and illegitimate
children?They gave their sons cushy jobs and
called them their"nephews".That's where
the term nepotism comes from.
Also,some popes were gay,and quite
promiscuous.

Posted by: robert berger at March 11, 2008 9:00 AM


Mary, I did. Thank you:]

Posted by: heather at March 11, 2008 9:00 AM


Vindicated? Really Jill? Thats so kind of you to say, when he has a wife and 3 teenager daughters who's lives have just been turned upside down through absolutely no fault of their own. It's pretty disgusting of you to find ANY kind of satisfaction in this.

You know perfectly well in the long run, his stance on abortion is completely irrelevent. He is just another in a LONG and ENDLESS line of scumbags who abuse their power- from priests to politicians, televangelists to lobbyists, it crosses party lines, it crosses the lines of liberal or conservative, pro life or pro choice, it crosses racial lines, religious lines - so on and so forth.

1 in 5 American men cheat on their wives. Do you feel vindicated in each one of them who may happen to be pro choice, regardless of the people who's lives are destroyed by his actions? Who cares about them, as long as it makes pro choice look bad right?

Nice.

Posted by: Amanda at March 11, 2008 9:01 AM


John Lewandowski, 6:30am,

He "empowered" women? According to an earlier post, a call girl was warned he may ask her to do things she doesn't consider safe. Does this champion of women's empowerment have fantasies of inflicting harm and indignities on women?

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 9:01 AM


FACT: Christopher has no proof. (well, maybe it does work, at least in this case)

Go back and slowly reread my post.

As I stated, the Secret Service entrance logs are indeed, factual and Jeff Gannon, AKA, M4M Military Stud for Hire, slept over at the White House while Laura was away, more than 200 times.

I know some still believe the world is flat, but it ain't.

Posted by: Christopher at March 11, 2008 9:02 AM


Robert Berger,

In college, I read the "edited" edition of the Canterbury Tales and my jaw dropped. There is absolutely nothing new under the sun.

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 9:05 AM


Amanda,

Sadly, there are any number of people who Spitzer went after, including many on Wall Street, who are feeling very vindicated, and very smugly satisfied. You'd think a very brilliant man, who himself resorted to wire tapping, would be only too aware of how easy it is to get caught.
Yes this is very tragic for Mrs. Spitzer and her children, the most important people the governor should have considered in the first place.

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 9:13 AM


Amanda,

we don't wish any bad for his family, not at all, I take no joy in it. However, I do hope this rabid pro-abort is not in a position of authority.

read the QoTD

Posted by: jasper at March 11, 2008 9:18 AM


Christopher: Provide proof that a reputable reporter has seen these logs. You just stating that they exist isn't exactly proof, is it? I am sure you can provide a link to an unbiased source. For instance, CNN would cover a story like this. NY Times isn't exactly Bush friendly so I am sure the you will be willing to provide us with a link to their story on this.

Posted by: Carrie at March 11, 2008 9:22 AM


Well, look at Chelse Clinton. She had a perverted father to deal with.

Posted by: heather at March 11, 2008 9:29 AM


Christopher -

Let's say the logs are fact? What else about your post would you consider fact? In one sentence you say that Bush had the nickname "Lips Bush" which I can only guess meant he was well liked by the ladies at school. You also imply that Bush slept with call-girls at the White House provided by his guest, but then say Laura is his "beard."

Which is it? Is Bush gay or not? Please, next time, put a little more thought into your accusations so you aren't contradicting yourself in your own post.

Posted by: Kristen at March 11, 2008 9:39 AM


That's naaaasty! (reference to Spitzer).

Clearly, his wife can handle this as she sees fit, and if she forgives him, then she's a bigger person than me!

If I were her, I would be at my doctor's office having a battery of medical testing and a course of antibiotics!

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 11, 2008 10:25 AM


"Apparently the Pope's releasing a new list of sins. Let's pray for another John Paul."

???

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 11, 2008 10:26 AM


"I'm going to the Easter vigil with my parents."

excellent! I hope you enjoy it! I'm planning on going to Easter Vigil this year too - in 41 years, I've never been!

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 11, 2008 10:28 AM


"He has spent the bulk of his career crusading for citizens, consumers, and other living people, not large corporations."

Ray - that's exactly part of the problem. Spitzer has made a career of prosecuting people for the same behaviors that he himself has apparently been taking part in all along.

Craig, to some extent, did as well; however, tapping your foot in a public restroom, while it may be immoral, isn't a violation of federal law.

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 11, 2008 10:31 AM


"JLM, ok, just for you I'll go to confession as soon as possible. I have to find a strange priest, I don't want one I'm going to see all the time. I wish you could do this online : ("

Jess - you can still go to anonymous confessions behind the screen. Most confessionals have both... just don't walk in too far, or you will find yourself standing face to face with the priest! (I did that on my first confession back at church - then I had twenty years' worth of confessions to make, face to face!)_

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 11, 2008 10:33 AM


"Why do so many married people cheat? Why when they're supposed to be good Christians and conservative?"

I think Spitzer is Jewish, and liberal, isn't he?

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 11, 2008 10:35 AM


"Are you awarw that centuries ago,many
popes had mistresses and illegitimate
children?They gave their sons cushy jobs and
called them their"nephews".That's where
the term nepotism comes from.
Also,some popes were gay,and quite
promiscuous."

And this is relevant to.... what? Is one of the Borgias running for president?

S.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 11, 2008 10:42 AM


Jess,
Or you could just pray to God and ask for forgiveness. He hears you.

Posted by: Carla at March 11, 2008 11:06 AM


"Jess,
Or you could just pray to God and ask for forgiveness. He hears you."

Aren't we supposed to wait until we're on our deathbed for this?

Posted by: Hal at March 11, 2008 11:29 AM


Sally,

Jasper's hearing isn't selective. After a few hours of watching CNN repeat the same story while at the airport, it wasn't until I got home and switched to Fox news that I found out Spitzer was a Democrat.

Posted by: Mary at March 10, 2008 11:48 PM
........................................................................

The political affiliation is not the story Mary. The illegal activity of a public official is. A good journalist presents the facts about the illegal activity before adding information not germane to the story about that illegal activity. You can find his political affiliation mentioned in every news account if you care to read. If Style does news pieces, they may have mentioned what color tie he was wearing at the news conference.
Do you feel it necessary to mention that Bush is a Republican every time the news has a story involving him?

Posted by: Sally at March 11, 2008 11:53 AM


Hmmmmm, Christopher hasn't returned with his links to unbiased sources.

Posted by: Carrie at March 11, 2008 11:59 AM


Now that I've covered George W. Bush and his relationship with male prostitute, Jeff Gannon, AKA, M4M Military Stud for Hire, I will move onto Vice President Dick Cheney.

The scandal involving the DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey, surprised even me. I long ago grew accustomed to the staggering, towering hypocrisy in the rightwing. But even I was surprised to learn none other than Dick Cheney's name appeared in Ms. Palfrey's client book.

Now, before anyone stands up to defend Cheney with claims that the story is false, please consider that if the story was fabricated, then why didn't Cheney, who is estimated to be worth $450 million dollars, begin libel and slander lawsuits against the news sites and news organizations that initially reported the story? Instead, there was a deafening silence from the Executive Office Building.

So, this takes care of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. Who was the last standard bearer for devoted marital bliss? Oh yes, Rick Santorum. I'll address this winger hypocrite a bit later.

Posted by: Christopher at March 11, 2008 12:15 PM


FACT: I weigh 120 lbs. I could get used to this. Thanks for introducing me to your alternative universe Christopher. :)

Posted by: Carrie at March 11, 2008 12:28 PM


Sally,

I'm aware the political affiliation is not the story. I'm backing up what Jasper said, that from what I observed, the political affiliation of Spitzer was not being mentioned on CNN. I know what good journalists do, but good journalism for the most part does not predominate and all too often bias stands in the way of good and accurate reporting, such as whether or not a political affiliation is mentioned.

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 12:42 PM


Sally,

I'm aware the political affiliation is not the story. I'm backing up what Jasper said, that from what I observed, the political affiliation of Spitzer was not being mentioned on CNN. I know what good journalists do, but good journalism for the most part does not predominate and all too often bias stands in the way of good and accurate reporting, such as whether or not a political affiliation is mentioned.

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 12:42 PM
.................................................

Especially if you are looking for bias. If you need all of your news spoon fed to you, you aren't going to get all the facts. Jasper said that no news source mentioned political affiliation and he is wrong.

Posted by: Sally at March 11, 2008 12:53 PM


Another proud "pro-life" lawmaker's record is tarnished:

http://abcnews.go.com/blotter/Story?id=4408794&page=2

Enjoy!

Posted by: Ray at March 11, 2008 12:55 PM


Sally,

Its been my experience that I haven't had to look too hard for bias. I've taken more than a few magazine editors to task for very obvious bias, sometimes downright bigotry.
Its possible the sources Jasper saw did not mention affiliation, or did not do so immedediately. I can't speak for Jasper, I just know what CNN, a major news outlet, was not reporting.

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 1:01 PM


Ray,

I almost confused Renzi with Rezko, about whom there is some speculation of scandal involving "pro-choice" Barack Obama. If you google "Rezko" you'll find some articles about this. Enjoy!

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 1:15 PM


I have no official comment at this time, but I will say this:

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Posted by: Jacqueline at March 11, 2008 1:25 PM


Mary, RE: Rezko and Obama

Rezko has contributed to multiple politicians; yes typically they are democrats, but not all are there are repubs who he has contributed to as well. He used his money to support politicians period.

As for the "scandal" it involves land deals where Obama bought the land for his house at lower than normal price and Rezko's wife bought a patch for full price, a piece of which Obama later bought. Was it stupid? Yeah, particularly scandalous? Not really, there are far worse things out there. Obama got the worst of the dirt on him out already, the drug use, etc.

Point being that the Rezko scandal for Obama is far more Rezko than scandal.

Posted by: Dan at March 11, 2008 1:56 PM


As for someone saying CNN didnt mention he's a Democrat- thats funny. Thats basically the only story they were covering and repeatedly they were saying that Republicans had already responding and that "fellow Democrats" had yet to say anything. They kept saying "Democrats are waiting to see" etc etc, it was mentioned multiple times if you listened

Posted by: Dan at March 11, 2008 1:59 PM


More on this and Jill quoted at http://www.lifenews.com/state3002.html

Posted by: Steven Ertelt at March 11, 2008 2:04 PM


Dan,

As far as I'm concerned, Obama is innocent until proven guilty, as is Renzi. There are varying opinions as to how serious these accusations are. I always keep in mind, and always urge others to as well, that people can make any kind of accusations. We never know until the facts are in and the accused have their day in court. That applies equally for both Renzi and Obama.

While listening to CNN, I was at the airport and had little else to do while waiting, I heard some Republican governors organization called for his resignation, which made me think he was Republican. I also heard Democrats were waiting to see, which could mean they were ready to pounce on a Republican scandal. I never heard anything about "fellow Democrats" and I was listening carefully since I really wanted to know.
Maybe we were watching at different times, but until I got home and turned on Fox, I had not heard what his party affiliation was.

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 2:20 PM


Right Mary. Like this for instance...

"Top aides to Governor Eliot Spitzer of New York said Tuesday that they expected the governor to resign his office..."

I just pulled this off the internet. How do we know he's Democrat? Because the story didn't read like this...

"Tope aides to the Republican Governor Eliot Spitzer of New York said Tuesday that they expected the Republican governor to resign his office..."

Posted by: Kristen at March 11, 2008 3:34 PM


Mary-

Obama isnt charged with anything, I dont know if that was where you were going with it or not, but just thought I'd throw that out there.

As for the bit about not hearing, I dont know if that was in the original post or not, my fault. I was simply skimming comments on my way down and hit two that happened to be yours, lol.

Posted by: Dan at March 11, 2008 5:05 PM


Dan,

Obama certainly hasn't been charged and until he is and found guilty I view these only as accusations, which anyone can make. I was just pointing out to Ray, who seemed to get some satisfaction from the Renzi indictment, that these situations go for both sides, just as I pointed out to another poster that illicit romping is a thrill not limited to men of any particular religious or political persausion.

Not a problem. I do that often enough myself:)

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 5:31 PM


Christopher, we aren't interested in your dishonest innuendo. You can go away now.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 11, 2008 5:40 PM


Mary said: "He "empowered" women? According to an earlier post, a call girl was warned he may ask her to do things she doesn't consider safe. Does this champion of women's empowerment have fantasies of inflicting harm and indignities on women?"

Mary, I was joking. I was applying pro-choice logic to the situation.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 11, 2008 5:42 PM


What I want to know is, does Spitzer's behavior indicate a national "Democratic Culture of Corruption", or is that only true when a Republican breaks the law or cheats on his wife?

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 11, 2008 5:49 PM


John 5:42PM,

I know. Sometimes things don't come across quite right on the internet. I was just commenting on the irony of your statement concerning a man who sounds like he may have some very sick fantasies about abusing and degrading women. When even the call girls are wary you have to wonder!

Posted by: Mary at March 11, 2008 6:13 PM


You're right, Mary. It's kind of interesting, though, that the two likely interpretations of Spitzer wanting to do something that wasn't safe are either that he wanted to do something truly perverse like you've said, or that he didn't want to use a condom. And the latter would really be a riot.

Either way, I'm pretty sure that the pro-abort feminists will forgive the man. After all, he fought for a woman's right to kill her babies, and that makes it OK for him to pay women for sex.

Posted by: John Lewandowski at March 11, 2008 9:48 PM


The NY Post has been having a Spitzer feeding frenzy for a couple of days now. One interesting detail reported is that the unsafe practice favored by Spitzer was to avoid using condoms.
A NY doctor has offered free, and practical advice for Mrs. Spitzer. And the Governor, who discouraged abstinence programs, and encouraged the use of condoms for others, appears to think his standards need not apply to himself.
I don't think this guy likes women at all. Prayers for his daughters, whose lives must be really terrible right now.

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