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I have a new poll question up:

Do you think Fr. John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame University, should disinvite President Barack Obama to be this year's commencement speaker?

Here are the results of my previous poll. Over 80% thought Obama stepped into the presidency and delivered exactly the agenda at exactly the speed you thought he would...

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Here were your votes. Click to enlarge to find your own brightly colored flag. Interestingly, our friends from around the globe were in complete agreement...

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As always, make comments to either this or last week's poll here, not on the Vizu website.


Comments:

I believe Father Jenkins should take a leave of absence to re-consider........everything.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at March 28, 2009 12:20 PM


I will give FJ this bit of credit:

The decision to both invite PBHO to speak and to confer on PBHO an honorary law degree, if it indeed comes to pass, will make this years commencement exercises at Notre Dame the most watched in the history of the university.

And appropriately enough 'history' will judge whether it brings notariety to Notre Dame or it makes Notre Dame notorious.

Maybe next year FJ will invite Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. He is the president of Iran. I am sure the interaction will be beneficial to some one. Care to guess who that might be, FJ?

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at March 28, 2009 12:30 PM


President Obama will be the 9th sitting US president to give a commencement address at ND, and I hope everyone enjoys his speech. Best wishes to the graduates and their families (including some personal friends).

Posted by: Bystander at March 28, 2009 12:55 PM


I could not find a button to click for the poll.
But I will answer, Yes, I think Father Jenkins
should rescind his invitation to Barack Obama.
The invitation should never have been given in the first place. I am thinking that Fr. Jenkins must have learned his theology from Fr. Richard McBrien.
Two peas in a pod.

Sincerely,
Joan Haselman

Posted by: Joan at March 28, 2009 1:14 PM


Posted by: Bystander at March 28, 2009 12:55 PM

"President Obama will be the 9th sitting US president to give a commencement address at ND, and I hope everyone enjoys his speech. Best wishes to the graduates and their families (including some personal friends).

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PBHO will be the first of nine sitting presidents to give a commencement address at Notre Dame, who has actively and aggressively resisted attempts to ensure equal rights to medical care for premature infants born alive as the result of an attempted abortion.

PBHO will be the first of nine sitting presidents to give a commencement address at Notre Dame, who has defended the practice of partial birth abortion.

PBHO will be the first of nine sitting presidents to give a commencement address at Notre Dame, who has publicly stated that he does not want his daughter to be punished with a baby.

PBHO will be the first of nine sitting presidents to give a commencement address at Notre Dame, who when asked, "In your view when does a baby gets human rights?", responded by saying the answer is above his pay grade.

That is the answer of a coward, or a fool, or a liar, or all three. It is not the answer of a man who should be afforded the privilege or honor of speaking to the graduating class of a nursery school, much less Notre Dame.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at March 28, 2009 2:57 PM


kbhvac- another victim of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

ND will give your opinion the weight it deserves.

yor bor ing

Posted by: Bystander at March 28, 2009 3:12 PM


He won't.

Posted by: reality at March 28, 2009 3:14 PM


President Obama will be the 9th sitting US president to give a commencement address at ND

But the FIRST to give it while threatening the religious freedoms of the church and its members. Big difference, not that I expect Obama Adoration Syndromers to admit it.

Posted by: Fed Up at March 28, 2009 3:29 PM


Umm...80% lack of surprise does NOT mean 80% lack of support. Maybe we're all unsurprised and pleased!

Posted by: Pamela at March 28, 2009 3:35 PM


I am just one of 185,000 other whom FJ and ND will give the weight our individual and combined opinions deserve.

Actually only the last comment in my post was an 'opinion'. (I would prefer 'conclusion'. It implies some applied thought.)

The first four were documented fact.

Just like your 'weighty' contribution.

Keep listening for the 'pop'. Your ears will hear it first.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at March 28, 2009 3:39 PM


Pamela, for the sake of our country I hope that the 80% are not pleased with our rapid descent into a fascist state.

Of course, I am part of that 80% and I know that I am about as "displeased" as possible.

Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2009 3:42 PM


Bystander,

I just completed a routine scheduled self diagnostic and I am free of any mental or emotional disorders or defects.

But even an insane person knows a fool when he sees one. Insane people are not necessarily stupid, they are just crazy.

What is your excuse for your slavish, fawning, sychophantic devotion to a man who does not have the sense or the courage to answer a simple question honestly.

Maybe you can answer it for him.

In your view, when does a baby get human rights?

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at March 28, 2009 3:50 PM


Reality,

Do you want to see if you can answer the question for your 'god'?

He seems to be indisposed. I believe he must be taking a nap or he went behind a tree to relieve himself,

or to use a colloqualism,

he is covering his feet.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at March 28, 2009 3:57 PM


kbhvac 3:50 I recommend you obtain a second opinion from a qualified professional.

Posted by: Bystander at March 28, 2009 6:36 PM


I would be careful questioning the mental capacity of another considering your track record here so far, what with all your fallacies and such.

Posted by: Oliver at March 28, 2009 7:57 PM


Father Jenkins needs to think seriously about the consequences of his invitation.

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at March 28, 2009 8:42 PM


"Do you think Fr. John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame University, should disinvite President Barack Obama to be this year's commencement speaker?"

Yes. Then Fr. Jenkins should be dismissed.


Posted by: Jasper at March 28, 2009 8:50 PM


As a Christian, who stands for life, I am indeed saddened by the choice of a Catholic institution having President Obama who is the antithesis of "the right to life" be their commencement speaker at Notre Dame. The name "Notre Dame" honors Mary, the virgin mother of Jesus, which I think represents the sanctity and holiness of the life of my Lord and Savior who was carried in the womb of a teenage, unwed mother. This same Jesus was hunted down by Herod, a king or ruler, who had all the babies killed by the midwives from the age of 2 and under. Isn't it sad that a Black man raised by a single mother, who is now President that there is NOT any type of abortion that he does not like or at least justify (PBA included) and even if a newborn survives a botched abortion he has no problem with that child being left to die in a soiled utility room of a hospital. How ironic and tragic that a hospital named after "Christ" and a university named "Notre Dame" have desecrated their names by their actions. I have been so burdened for this country that I have been praying and fasting. I believe that our Lord must be coming soon because he is allowing events that I never imagined to unfold for his purposes. Continue to pray believers.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 28, 2009 9:20 PM


Sorry Anonymous was me.

Posted by: Choose Life at March 28, 2009 9:22 PM


Oliver,

I do not believe Bystander was questioning my intelligence, she was insinuating that my dislike of PBHO was evidence of some sort of psychological disorder and she ignored the evidence I presented for my distaste of all things Obama.

But neither Bystander or Reality would make an attempt at answering the simple question:

In your view at one point does a baby get human rights?

The answer must be above their pay grade as well.

The answer will come to them soon after they hear the 'pop'.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at March 28, 2009 11:21 PM


Posted by: Bystander at March 28, 2009 6:36 PM

kbhvac 3:50 I recommend you obtain a second opinion from a qualified professional.
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Reminds me of a joke:

Lady goes to the doctor.

The drunken doctor tells her she is exceedingly short for her weight.

She says to the doc, "I want a second opinion".

The doc says," You're ugly too!"

The lady says, "You are just a druk."

The doc says, "You're right, but I could be sober in the morning."

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at March 28, 2009 11:56 PM


"Do you think Fr. John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame University, should disinvite President Barack Obama to be this year's commencement speaker?"

Yes. Then Fr. Jenkins should be dismissed.


Posted by: Jasper at March 28, 2009 8:50 PM

totally agree.
However, it won't happen because Fr. Jenkins is not alone either at ND nor within his order.

Posted by: angel at March 29, 2009 7:51 AM


You know why people say you should not discuss politics and religion?

They do not want you to find out how 'political' organized religion is.

yor bro ken

Posted by: kbhvac at March 29, 2009 3:32 PM


Pamela, for the sake of our country I hope that the 80% are not pleased with our rapid descent into a fascist state.

Of course, I am part of that 80% and I know that I am about as "displeased" as possible.
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2009 3:42 PM

I'm part of the 80% and I'm pleased.

Posted by: Hal at March 29, 2009 4:51 PM


I am extremely displeased that tax dollars are going to forced abortion (UNFPA) and more tax $ are going to Banned Parenthood.

How about investing in the nation's future? Don't destroy the future of this country before they are born!


I was listening to the World Over (EWTN program) on the Catholic radio station and one of the guests was talking about this Notre Dame scandal and how Father Jenkins was appointed by a Board, so the Bishops in Indiana just can't dismiss him, unfortunately.

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at March 29, 2009 9:12 PM


Instead of an honorary degree, they should present him with a graphic picture of an 8-month old aborted baby.

Posted by: ferventservent at March 30, 2009 9:04 AM


Liz: I am willing to bet that the Bishops can at least take away the title of Father.

Posted by: YCW at March 30, 2009 9:35 AM


You mean defrock him, YCW?

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at March 30, 2009 2:18 PM


Yes.

Posted by: YCW at March 31, 2009 3:38 PM