I said the other day I wasn't vouching, just reporting, on an August 26 Times Online article that reported Amnesty International may have "duped" some stars who sang on a recent fundraising album after which AI added abortion as a "human right." Specifically, the article tagged two potentially "duped" singers:
[Christina] Aguilera, 26, is a devout American Catholic. She is reportedly expecting her first child and has taken part in a television show in which she interviewed a teenager who had kept her baby rather than have an abortion.[Avril] Lavigne, 22, is a French-Canadian from a tight-knit Christian family. Her song Keep Holding On is the backing track to a pro-life video on YouTube that declares "abortion is murder."...
Pro-life bloggers have been running with this while pro-aborts desperate for it not to be so have found Aguilera to have a pro-abort history. Whew, although they'd better stand guard. Who knows if she'll rethink things if indeed pregnant?
And if that's all there is, it is weak to conclude Lavigne is pro-life because one of her songs was used in a YouTube video. But here 'tis, at any rate.
[Photo of Aguilera, supposed evidence she is sporting a "baby bump," is courtesy of Waleg.com, August 24]
Comments:
I thought Christina was PC.
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 10:46 AMFunny.
Check out the second name on the roster:
The March for Women’s Lives Celebrity Coalition includes:
Margie Adam, Christina Aguilera, Jennifer Aniston, Curtis Armstrong, Elaine Aronson, Bea Arthur, Ed Asner, Kevin Bacon, Alec Baldwin, William Baldwin, Meredith Baxter, Shari Belafonte, Maria Bello, Polly Bergen, Thora Birch, Amy Brenneman, Betty Buckley, Jessica Capshaw, Lynda Carter, Stockard Channing, Jill Clayburgh, Kate Clinton, Glenn Close, Cindy Crawford, Sheryl Crow, Alan Cumming, Tyne Daly, Blythe Danner, Kristin Davis, Ossie Davis, Dana Delany, Laura Dern, Ellen DeGeneres, Ani DiFranco, Illeana Douglas, Denise Dowse, Fran Drescher, Kirsten Dunst, David Eigenberg, Hector Elizondo, Emme, Eve Ensler, Giancarlo Esposito, Melissa Etheridge, Morgan Fairchild, Edie Falco, Frances Fisher, Calista Flockhart, Jane Fonda, Bonnie Franklin, Janeane Garofalo, Ana Gasteyer, Indigo Girls, Annabeth Gish, Whoopi Goldberg, Lauren Graham, Maggie Gyllenhaal, LisaGay Hamilton, Ben Harper, Ed Harris, Salma Hayek, Marg Helgenberger, Isabella Hofmann, Helen Hunt, Amy Jo Johnson, Kathryn Joosten, Ashley Judd, Catherine Keener, Carole King, Swoosie Kurt, Christine Lahti, Sanaa Lathan, Sharon Lawrence, Lisa Loeb, Amy Madigan, Natalie Maines, Wendie Malick, Joshua Malina, Camryn Manheim, Frances McDormand, Ewan McGregor, Marilyn McIntyre, Sarah McLachlan, Moby, Demi Moore, Julianne Moore, Alanis Morissette, Kathy Najimy, Alyson Palmer, Joe Pantoliano, Mary-Louise Parker, Adrian Pasdar, Pink, Martha Plimpton, Doris Roberts, Paul Rudd, Susan Sarandon, Campbell Scott, Kyra Sedgwick, Cybill Shepherd, SONiA, Fisher Stevens, Gloria Steinem, Julia Stiles, Corky and Mike Stoller, Sharon Stone, Amber Tamblyn, Mary Testa, Charlize Theron, Uma Thurman, Heather Tom, Stanley Tucci, Kathleen Turner, Ted Turner, Sarah Weddington, Audrey Wells, Bradley Whitford, Thom Yorke, Amy Ziff, Elizabeth Ziff
Alan Cummings. AND Ewan McGregor. In the same place.
It will probably explode from the sexiness.
Posted by: Erin at August 30, 2007 11:09 AMYeah, I know I get all hot and bothered by men who join together and fight for the right to kill children.
Posted by: lauren at August 30, 2007 11:19 AMI have seen that list of famous pro choicers before..............So?
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 11:21 AMOn Sunday, August 26th the London Sunday Times published an article (Pro-life rockers clash with Amnesty) that has been misleading many people. In it the writers say that Christina Aguilera and Avril Lavigne have "both made statements against abortion." This statement immediately follows this; "The group (Amnesty International) has been accused of 'duping' the singers Christina Aguilera and Avril Lavigne," which has been leading many to believe that we, Rock for Life believe that these two artists are pro-life.
We did not make any statement saying that these two artists were pro-life. We know for sure Christina Aguilera isn't since she was a March for Women's Lives Celebrity Coalition member in support of the March for Women's Lives, a pro-abortion rally in Washington, D.C. that took place April 25, 2004.
The London Sunday Times used questionable logic coming to the conclusion that Aguilera and Lavigne are pro-life. Check this out:
But Aguilera, 26, is a devout American Catholic. She is reportedly expecting her first child and has taken part in a television show in which she interviewed a teenager who had kept her baby rather than have an abortion.
Lavigne, 22, is a French-Canadian from a tight-knit Christian family. Her song Keep Holding On is the backing track to a pro-life video on YouTube that declares “abortion is murder”.
Obviously this is not enough information to tell what one's stance is regarding abortion.
Then...
An aide to Lavigne said: “I don’t think she would want to comment on this. But what has abortion to do with Amnesty? It’s for a lot of different things such as prisoners of conscience and human rights.”
Umm, aide to Lavigne, EVERYTHING! How can you be for human rights while supporting the killing (via abortion) of the most innocent and defenseless among us, preborn human persons?
Unfortunately the London Sunday Time's faulty logic has other publications quoting Rock for Life as saying Aguilera and Lavigne are pro-life:
Pro-life rock stars 'duped' by Amnesty, WorldNetDaily.com
Pro-Life Group Says Amnesty International Mislead Musicians on Abortion, LifeNews.com
Cardinal resigns from Amnesty in abortion row, Scotsman.com
If you read the article very carefully I am never quoted directly with saying that these artists are pro-life but it journalist definitely implies. Very unfortunate but hey that's one reason to have a blog, to clear things up.
Posted by: Erik Whittington at August 30, 2007 11:22 AMCheryl[one piece of TP] Crow.
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 11:23 AMKathy Najimy....She signed the Ms. Magazine "WE HAD ABORTIONS" petition. Hahahaha..her career is washed up. She's a real has been!
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 11:28 AMI think I've read before that Avril is PC. She lives in Canada, so the American press doesn't have all that much access to her sometimes.
Lauren- those are two men with the most incredible voices in the generation. Add Chip Zein and I would probably pass out from all the drooling I'd be doing. They're both very big names in the Big Apple, though I think Ewan has done more with films as of late. But did anyone see Alan Cummings in Threepenny Opera? AMAZING.
Posted by: Erin at August 30, 2007 11:30 AM Excerpt from Sharon: The rock of the Osbournes unXpurgated
By JENNY JOHNSTON
The Daily Mail
Brutally Honest
You can level many charges at Sharon Osbourne, but she is brutally honest, and it is her vulnerability that makes her likeable.
"Everybody has something in the closet, and I reckon the best policy is always to be honest, then it can't come back to haunt you," she says. And she holds her hands up to her own "big mistakes". The biggest brings her to tears. "I had an abortion at 17 and it was the worst thing I ever did. It was the first time I'd had sex, and that was rotten. I'd always thought it was going to be all violins, and it was just awful.
"I was two months gone when I realised. I went to my mum and she said, without pausing for breath: 'You have to get rid of it.'
"She told me where the clinic was, then virtually pushed me off. She was so angry. She said I'd got myself in this mess, now she had to get me out.
"But she didn't come. I went alone. I was terrified. It was full of other young girls, and we were all terrified and looking at each other and nobody was saying a bloody word. I howled my way through it, and it was horrible.
"I would never recommend it to anyone because it comes back to haunt you. When I tried to have children, I lost three - I think it was because something had happened to my cervix during the abortion. After three miscarriages, they had to put a stitch in it.
"In life, whatever it is, you pay somewhere down the line. You have to be accountable."
"I Killed a part of myself..." Actress Bette Davis speaking about her abortion in Vanity Fair, March 2006
After abortion “my marriage was never the same. Something was gone. It broke my heart.” -- Judie Garland
“The abortion itself was painful, and there was nothing to ease the pain. The procedure is demeaning; the poor woman lies flat on her back, legs up in those hateful stirrups with an impersonal tool ready to enter her body and remove something very personal. After it was over, I went in and sat in a chair and sobbed -- partly from physical pain, partly because I felt totally devastated. Since then, I’ve wondered how well a man could endure such an experience.” -- Gennifer Flowers (had an abortion with Bill Clinton)
“I sat in the women’s clinic waiting room, wondering what was going on just three rooms away as doctors (were) tearing out the brains of our child with a pair of forceps.” -- Marilyn Manson
See more testimonies at the Priests for Life website.
Testimonies Home
There's nothing unsexier than a pro-abort man. Essentially, his pick-up line is, "Hey, baby. I want to have sex with you and take absolutely no responsibility for any consquences."
I want to be treated like a person, a partner--- not a warm sex doll that can be shipped off to be scraped out and left bleeding if impregnated.
Posted by: Jacqueline at August 30, 2007 11:40 AMI remember a large group of young pro-life activists sidewalk chalking the route that the celebrity contingent would take after breaking away from the main march (at the March for Women's Lives). Many of the chalked statements were calling out the celebrities by name. One that I wrote...."Whoopi and Kathy Najimy - nuns are supposed to be pro-life!" (in jest of their Sister Act roles).
I didn't have a chance to tell Kathy N that I was a fan of King of the Hill, as she passed through our picket line on the way to a Big Abortion fundraiser.
Posted by: Phil at August 30, 2007 11:42 AMFor every pro choice celebrity who agrees with abortion [probably haven't ever had one themselves] here are some who say that abortion was the WRONG thing to do.
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 11:42 AMI didn't have a chance to tell Kathy N that I was a fan of King of the Hill, as she passed through our picket line on the way to a Big Abortion fundraiser.
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I love her. She has a regular role on the show "NUMB3RS," and just finished filming a movie that should be released around Christmas.
Posted by: Laura at August 30, 2007 11:49 AMSome pro life celebrities..... Brooke Sheilds, Kathy Ireland, Kim Alexis, Patricia Heaton.
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 12:41 PMChris Rock is also PC. He stated "I love going to PC rallies." "It's a great place to meet women."
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 12:46 PMErin, do you really find Ewan McGregor hot? EEWWW.
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 12:48 PMJacqueline, Amen to that! That's the message pro abort men help send. These females just get their undies in a knot over it too. SICK! Birds of a feather flock together. In this crowd, nobody is responsible.
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 12:52 PMErin, oops. Sorry. I was thinking that he was the blond guy with curly hair. Wrong guy. My bad.
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 12:59 PMAs far as celebs. I wonder how many of them have ever actually HAD abortions. I just love it when they say "I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ABORTION, BUT...... then they get into why they want it to remain legal. If you're so dang proud of your position, then why make it so clear that you've never had one. Wouldn't it be irrelevant?
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 1:24 PMHeather- I love that Chris Rock quote. It reminds me of Jay and Silent Bob saying they love to hang around abortion clinics (because the women are easy).
Also, good point about people being so quick to announce that they've never aborted before declaring their support for abortion and how it shouldn't be stigmatized. If there's nothing wrong with it, why the need to tell everyone that you haven't had one?
Posted by: Jacqueline at August 30, 2007 2:41 PMJacqueline, yes. Pro choice men really don't help their case at all.
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 2:49 PMErik, 11:22a: Thanks for coming on and clarifying. Note I never pointed the finger back to Rock for Life because I analyzed the article and concluded the authors used shaky logic that didn't sound like it came from RFL.
I am concerned pro-life blogs are running with it, however, which doesn't make us look good.
Heather, Jacqueline: Chris Rock made that string of jokes in total jest of pro-abort women, fyi. Not sure whether you got that.
Posted by: Jill Stanek at August 30, 2007 5:37 PMYeah, I know I get all hot and bothered by men who join together and fight for the right to kill children.
Posted by: lauren at August 30, 2007 11:19 AM
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Killing children is against the law. Why are people just too dense to comprehend that?
See more testimonies at the Priests for Life website.
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Im amazed that anyone is really stupid enough to try to use that lying garbage web page as a 'reference'
Jacqueline, Amen to that! That's the message pro abort men help send. These females just get their undies in a knot over it too. SICK! Birds of a feather flock together. In this crowd, nobody is responsible.
Posted by: Heather at August 30, 2007 12:52 PM
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One more incredibly stupid comment. But I guess someone with a simple mind has to see everything in very simple terms. Having the intellectual capacity of a trout seems to be a positive among anti choicers.
Heather- I love that Chris Rock quote. It reminds me of Jay and Silent Bob saying they love to hang around abortion clinics (because the women are easy).
Also, good point about people being so quick to announce that they've never aborted before declaring their support for abortion and how it shouldn't be stigmatized. If there's nothing wrong with it, why the need to tell everyone that you haven't had one?
Posted by: Jacqueline at August 30, 2007 2:41 PM
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Because you have judgmental self righteous chiennes who try to pretend that if someone HAS had an abortion then they are just trying to rationalize THEIR behavior and find excuses for what they did.
Also, good point about people being so quick to announce that they've never aborted before declaring their support for abortion and how it shouldn't be stigmatized. If there's nothing wrong with it, why the need to tell everyone that you haven't had one?
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I don't worship magic invisible sky fairies as many on the pro-life side do, but I would kill and die to protect your right to do so.
See how that works?
Posted by: Laura at August 30, 2007 6:30 PMTexas,
*Sound of Buzzer*
minus three points for repetitive insults...
Psssst...remember when I gave you a list of synonyms for idiot...well here's one for stupid...
See also
# anserine
# blockheaded
# boneheaded
# brainless
# cloddish
# confused
# dense
# dim
# doltish
# dopey
# dopy
# dull
# dumb
# fatheaded
# feebleminded
# foolish
# gaumless
# gooselike
# goosey
# goosy
# gormless
# half-witted
# headless
# idiotic
# imbecile
# imbecilic
# jerky
# loggerheaded
# lumpen
# lumpish
# moronic
# nitwitted
# obtuse
# retarded
# senseless
# slow
# slow-witted
# soft-witted
# stupid
# thick
# thick-skulled
# thick-witted
# thickheaded
# unintelligent
# unthinking
# weak
# witless
# wooden-headed
# yokel-like
Texas Red, child killing is not against the law. As long as said child is within your womb that is.
From American Heritage Dictionary-
A person between birth and puberty.
An unborn infant; a fetus.
An infant; a baby.
One who is childish or immature.
A son or daughter; an offspring.
Wow, look TX Red...multiple definitions.
So, according to the AHD, it is legal to kill a child as long as you haven't yet birthed it. I wonder why some people are too dense to understand that?
Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2007 6:42 PMLauren,
Because to understand it would be to admit you'd been wrong. And that would rock their little, teeny, tiny worlds...
Posted by: mk at August 30, 2007 6:54 PMI have to say, I love Ewan McGregor. I couldn't care less if he was pro-life or pro-choice, that little tidbit is not very important to me, to be honest. I would probably marry a pro-life guy if he treated me well enough (considering I can't have kids anyway, so it would never matter). I would also vote for a pro-life politician vs a pro-choice politician if the pro-life politician had a stronger platform that was more agreeable to me.
But yeah...Ewan McGregor is a gorgeous man...especially in "Moulin Rouge".
Posted by: Rae at August 30, 2007 7:20 PMHeather:“I sat in the women’s clinic waiting room, wondering what was going on just three rooms away as doctors (were) tearing out the brains of our child with a pair of forceps.” -- Marilyn Manson
See more testimonies at the Priests for Life website.
First of all, how weird is it that Priests for Life have a quote from "satan's minion" Marilyn Manson on their website. Second of all, I'm willing to bet he found it erotic instead of horrific because he's just uberly strange like that.
MK, "Psssst...remember when I gave you a list of synonyms for idiot...well here's one for stupid..."
LOL... and
BTW... Thanks for the kind words about my write up MK. You too jasper.
J Kellar, I realize this is "Marylin Manson". My husband interviewed him , Brian Warner, for a magazine. He is very much as human as you and I. I believe he was saddened. I couldn't imagine that you thought that he would find an abortion "erotic." That's sick!
Posted by: Heather at August 31, 2007 1:36 AMTexas Red, you need to think before you type. You really do. You are so repetitive. I think you're the self righteous one here.
Posted by: Heather at August 31, 2007 1:38 AMminus three points for repetitive insults...
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Why dont you try throwing yourself onto the floor, drumming your heels into the carpet and threatening to hold your breath until your face turns blue? Its just as effective.
Because to understand it would be to admit you'd been wrong. And that would rock their little, teeny, tiny worlds...
Posted by: mk at August 30, 2007 6:54 PM
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And how do you fantasize reality will rock the pro choice world, MK? Youre the one who cant come to terms with reality - thats why you have to try to hide behind melodramatics and sentamentality and emotionalism and hysterics. Thats why you have to whine about 'murder' and 'killing babies' and 'the slaughter of innocents' and 'child killers' because you cant come to terms with the truth. You cant be honest.
Texas Red, you need to think before you type. You really do. You are so repetitive. I think you're the self righteous one here.
Posted by: Heather at August 31, 2007 1:38 AM
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black .... and no, Heather, Ive seen no indication that you 'think' at all ... at least not in any context of the word which I understand.
Heather,
You are always going on about how perverted you believe abortion docs to be, well here's a guy who rams himself with a dildo and does any number of obscene and sickening things at his concerts, how can you get even more perverted?
Posted by: JKeller at August 31, 2007 10:52 PMI'd draw the line at abortion though. BTW, he was molested as a child.
Posted by: Heather at September 1, 2007 2:44 AMTR,
And how do you fantasize reality will rock the pro choice world, MK? Youre the one who cant come to terms with reality - thats why you have to try to hide behind melodramatics and sentamentality and emotionalism and hysterics. Thats why you have to whine about 'murder' and 'killing babies' and 'the slaughter of innocents' and 'child killers' because you cant come to terms with the truth. You cant be honest.
And I'm being dishonest where? And I'm whining where? And I'm being melodramatic where?
I think you need to cite some sources...
Posted by: mk at September 1, 2007 9:17 AM
TR,
minus three points for repetitive insults...
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Why dont you try throwing yourself onto the floor, drumming your heels into the carpet and threatening to hold your breath until your face turns blue? Its just as effective.
Well, at least that's a new insult...
+1 point for creativity.
Posted by: mk at September 1, 2007 9:19 AMEveryone,
Let's give a collective hug and patronizing smile for Texas Red...she seems quite incapable of debating without name calling and insults...I feel bad for her.
I mean really, remember when you were a kid and your mom let you sit in on grown-up conversations provided you didn't talk...
Well, here we let Texas Red onto an adult forum and she just can't help but let us know that she can't keep up! I feel sorry for her. It must make her feel terribly inadequate not to be able to debate with the big kids.
Which is why I propose we give her a big hug, and tell her that if she listens very carefully and watches how the "big people" play, she too might be taken seriously someday...
Ready????
((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))!
and a big fat...
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW"
We love you Texas Red. Now go eat your cookies and milk. It's almost time for bed...
Posted by: mk at September 1, 2007 9:26 AM
Mk, I did notice she added a new adjective for "fetus" on another topic... instead of mindless insensate nonviable tissue, she actually said it was oblivious insensate nonviable tissue. I was very proud of her for using a new word!
Maybe if we keep showing her that vocabulary list you gave, she might learn even more!
Maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks?
Posted by: mk at September 1, 2007 9:53 AMMK, LOL! @ TR's comment to you. The woman can't even type a sentence without insulting someone.
Posted by: Heather at September 1, 2007 11:37 AMChristina Aguilera is a mega-skank!!
Posted by: Zeke13:19 at September 3, 2007 12:49 AMZeke: Christina Aguilera is a mega-skank!!
Not exactly sure about that myself, Zeke, but she sure looks a LOT different without makeup - one of the largest such differences I've ever seen.
Doug
Posted by: Doug at September 4, 2007 12:33 PMJill, Thanks for letting me clarify! :) Erik
Posted by: Erik Whittington at September 6, 2007 10:22 AM
