What Hollywood omitted from 2009 movie Alfie from 1965 version

I haven't seen either version of Alfie, so I had no idea...

Filling in the blanks, from LifeIssues.net...

Set in Britain in the sixties, the film highlights Alfie Elkins, a sexual libertine who is adept in the ways of women....

Alfie has a sexual interlude with an older woman.... [Lily] becomes pregnant, and Alfie arranges to have an abortionist come to his apartment. After the abortion is induced, Lily returns to her husband and children, and Alfie returns to his sexual libertinism....

The inability to read Alfie's facial expression changes, however, when he enters the kitchen where the abortion has occurred; the close-up as he views his unborn child shows just how tortured he is by the realization that he is responsible for having killed his child....

No, this sort of honest depiction of abortion wouldn't do in 2009.

[HT: Lila Rose]


Comments:

I agree with the video that surely Hollywood (and any other pro abort) HAS to know that abortion is the taking of an innocent life.

Posted by: Joanne at April 8, 2009 1:50 PM


"What's it all about...."

Posted by: Arlen Williams at April 8, 2009 2:08 PM


Very moving

Posted by: Oliver at April 8, 2009 2:19 PM


Wow, I had NO IDEA that was in the original.

Posted by: Jenny Z at April 8, 2009 2:20 PM


My people will perish for lack of knowledge. Hosea 4:6

Why Did Jesus Fold the Napkin?

Why did Jesus fold the linen burial cloth after His resurrection? I never noticed this.....


The Gospel of John (20:7) tells us that the napkin, which was placed over the face of Jesus, was not just thrown aside like the grave clothes.


The Bible takes an entire verse to tell us that the napkin was neatly folded, and was placed at the head of that stony coffin.


Early Sunday morning, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb and found that the stone had been rolled away from the entrance.

She ran and found Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved. She said, 'They have taken the Lord's body out of the tomb, and I don't know where they have put him!'

Peter and the other disciple ran to the tomb to see. The other disciple outran Peter and got there first. He stooped and looked in and saw the linen cloth lying there, but he didn't go in.

Then Simon Peter arrived and went inside. He also noticed the linen wrappings lying there, while the cloth that had covered Jesus' head was folded up and lying to the side.

Was that important? Absolutely!

Is it really significant? Yes!

In order to understand the significance of the folded napkin, you have to understand a little bit about Hebrew tradition of that day. The folded napkin had to do with the Master and Servant, and every Jewish boy knew this tradition.

When the servant set the dinner table for the master, he made sure that it was exactly the way the master wanted it.

The table was furnished perfectly, and then the servant would wait, just out of sight, until the master had finished eating, and the servant would not dare touch that table,
until the master was finished.

Now if the master were done eating, he would rise from the table, wipe his fingers, his mouth, and clean his beard, and would wad up that napkin and toss it onto the table.

The servant would then know to clear the table. For in those days, the wadded napkin meant, 'I'm done'.

But if the master got up from the table, and folded his napkin, and laid it beside his plate, the servant would not dare touch the table, because.......... The folded
napkin meant, 'I'm coming back!'

He is Coming Back!!

HAPPY EASTER !!!!

Posted by: HisMan at April 8, 2009 2:36 PM


"Romans 1:18
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,"

.....and where is Hollywood located? Right on the San Andreas fault.

Don't be surprised if Tinsel Town gets sucked into the sea.

Posted by: HisMan at April 8, 2009 2:44 PM


Wow, HisMan, I never knew that about the folded napkin. That's so cool. :)

Posted by: Kel at April 8, 2009 2:55 PM


Nope. They would never put that part in the 2009 movie. What's the problem? The "A" word that everyone tip toes around, unless one is pro-death, of course. Nope. It's just not acceptable to make it look like the immoral wrong that it is these days.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 3:25 PM


The best thing people can do is boycotte liberal films. Don't purchase any of their movies or products. Don't buy their albums. You can find out who your pro-death celebs are by running Pro-choice celebrities through your search engine.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 3:33 PM


The following is the Planned Parenthood list of performers supporting "The March for Women's Lives Celebrity Coalition":

Margie Adam, Christina Aguilera, Jennifer Aniston, Curtis Armstrong, Elaine Aronson, Bea Arthur, Ed Asner, Kevin Bacon, Alec Baldwin, William Baldwin, Meredith Baxter, Shari Belafonte, Maria Bello, Polly Bergen, Thora Birch, Amy Brenneman, Betty Buckley, Jessica Capshaw, Lynda Carter, Stockard Channing, Jill Clayburgh, Kate Clinton, Glenn Close, Cindy Crawford, Sheryl Crow, Alan Cumming, Tyne Daly, Blythe Danner, Kristin Davis, Ossie Davis, Dana Delany, Laura Dern, Ellen DeGeneres, Ani DiFranco, Illeana Douglas, Denise Dowse, Fran Drescher, Kirsten Dunst, David Eigenberg, Hector Elizondo, Emme, Eve Ensler, Giancarlo Esposito, Melissa Etheridge, Morgan Fairchild, Edie Falco, Frances Fisher, Calista Flockhart, Jane Fonda, Bonnie Franklin, Janeane Garofalo, Ana Gasteyer, Indigo Girls, Annabeth Gish, Whoopi Goldberg, Lauren Graham, Maggie Gyllenhaal, LisaGay Hamilton, Ben Harper, Ed Harris, Salma Hayek, Marg Helgenberger, Isabella Hofmann, Helen Hunt, Amy Jo Johnson, Kathryn Joosten, Ashley Judd, Catherine Keener, Carole King, Swoosie Kurt, Christine Lahti, Sanaa Lathan, Sharon Lawrence, Lisa Loeb, Amy Madigan, Natalie Maines, Wendie Malick, Joshua Malina, Camryn Manheim, Frances McDormand, Ewan McGregor, Marilyn McIntyre, Sarah McLachlan, Moby, Demi Moore, Julianne Moore, Alanis Morissette, Kathy Najimy, Alyson Palmer, Joe Pantoliano, Mary-Louise Parker, Adrian Pasdar, Pink, Martha Plimpton, Doris Roberts, Paul Rudd, Susan Sarandon, Campbell Scott, Kyra Sedgwick, Martin Sheen, Cybill Shepherd, SONiA, Fisher Stevens, Gloria Steinem, Julia Stiles, Corky and Mike Stoller, Sharon Stone, Amber Tamblyn, Mary Testa, Charlize Theron, Uma Thurman, Heather Tom, Stanley Tucci, Kathleen Turner, Ted Turner, Sarah Weddington, Audrey Wells, Bradley Whitford, Alfre Woodard, Thom Yorke, Amy Ziff, Elizabeth Ziff

See the website: http://www.marchforwomen.org/

Here they are.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 3:36 PM


Pro-Life Actress Patricia Heaton Challenges Pro-Abortion Marchers

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
April 22, 2004

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Unlike many of her Hollywood friends, two-time Emmy winner Patricia Heaton, star of the hit comedy series "Everybody Loves Raymond," won't be attending Sunday's pro-abortion march in Washington.

"Many of the celebrities on the list are my friends," Heaton explained, "but when it comes to championing abortion, we go our separate ways."

"I find it impossible to subscribe to a philosophy that believes that the destruction of human life is a legitimate solution to a problem that is mostly social, economic and psychological," said Heaton. "In reality, most women 'choose' abortion because they believe they have no other choice."

Looking to bolster the number of march participants, abortion advocates have recruited a litany of pro-abortion celebrities to pump their cause.

The list ranges from musicians such as Christina Aguilera, Lisa Loeb, and Ashley Judd to actors such as Jennifer Aniston, Helen Hunt, and Lynda Carter and other notables like Ellen DeGeneres, Emme, Cindy Crawford, and Jane Fonda.

According to recent polls, the pro-abortion women celebrities don't represent the majority of women.

A September 2003 poll conducted by the Polling Company found 54 percent of women selected one of three different pro-life views opposing all or almost all abortions. Only 39 percent backed abortion.

The results are similar to those found in a poll conducted by a pro-abortion group.

In June, the Center for the Advancement of Women released the results of a poll showing that 51 percent of women took a pro-life position. Their poll also found that keeping abortion legal was the next to last most important priority for women as compared with other public policy issues.

Heaton is not surprised by such polling, saying that women often turn to abortion because of a lack of practical resources and emotional support. Many women who have had abortions report that they felt abandoned, or even coerced into abortion.

"Women who experience unplanned pregnancy also deserve unplanned joy," said Heaton, who believes abortion is evidence that society has failed to meet the real needs of women.


Marchers say, "We won't go back." Heaton responds, "If it is up to march organizers, we won't move forward either. It's time to raise the bar, not protect the status quo. Every woman deserves better than abortion, and every child deserves a chance at life."

Heaton is the honorary chairwoman of Feminists for Life, a pro-woman, pro-life group that works to find solutions to abortion that affirm the dignity of women.

"Being a mother is one of the most rewarding experiences of my life," Heaton concludes. "As a member of Feminists for Life, I want to share the joy of motherhood with other women, to enable women to make life-affirming choices for themselves and their children, and to elevate our society's perception of mothers."

On the other hand, we have a few pro-lifers. Patricia Heaton, Brooke Shields, Kim Alexis, Kate Mulgrew, Angie Harmon, Jennifer O'Neal, Ben Stien, Mel Gibson and a few more.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 3:54 PM


What a powerful scene! Unfortunately Hollyweird is all about silencing the truth. They love to paint a picture of a fantasy world and that's why we would surely never see a movie with a scene like this in the 21st century.

Posted by: Keke at April 8, 2009 3:56 PM


the devil owns hollywood.

Posted by: Jasper at April 8, 2009 3:56 PM


Now that I saw that list of the "stars" (more like false lights if you ask me) that support the slaughter of innocent children, I probably will not go to the movies anymore. Why put money into their pockets just so they can turn around and give it to murderers?

Posted by: Keke at April 8, 2009 4:00 PM


jasper, right! Keke, that's smart! I was gonna go see Grand Torino until someone told me that Clint Eastwood was a lib. I went to Dairy Queen instead.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 4:05 PM


Why give them a red cent, so that they can turn around and donate a % of it to Planned Barrenhood?

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 4:09 PM


Keke, I like that {false lights}!! How about faded lights? LOL!! Some are just "has beens" or "never have beens"... Either way you slice it, a snake is a snake!

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 4:13 PM


Heather,

No, Clint Eastwood is no lib. I'm not sure where he stands of life, but he has been a repub since 1951.

Posted by: Jasper at April 8, 2009 4:30 PM


The best thing people can do is boycotte liberal films. Don't purchase any of their movies or products. Don't buy their albums. You can find out who your pro-death celebs are by running Pro-choice celebrities through your search engine.
Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 3:33 PM

Yes we certainly can boycott objectionable movies although that is about 90% of them now.

And regarding celebrities on the abortion issue probably 95% of them are pro abort.

There were very few celebs that were openly supporting McCain in the last election.

Here is a list I came across of Hollywood Republicans. The list of liberals is considerably shorter however I have no doubt Hollywood is overwhelmingly Democratic.

http://hollywoodrepublicans.com/recommendations.htm

Posted by: Joanne at April 8, 2009 4:31 PM


jasper, I stand corrected. I seem to remember one of Clint Eastwood's former girlfriends saying that he had forced her to have 2 abortions. Sandra Locke, I think that was her name. I'm not 100% sure though.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 4:38 PM


Joanne, that's fantastic!! I see Clint on the list!!!! Maybe I'll pay the nine bucks after all:]

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 4:41 PM


Can this list be really true? I checked out a few and they were verified by Wikipedia at least. Some seem too strange to be real though...

Posted by: Oliver at April 8, 2009 4:43 PM


He's the most enduring star in Hollywood. A man who, 35 years after his transformation from TV cowboy in Rawhide to international movie star in the influential spaghetti western A Fistful of Dollars, still carries considerable box-office clout.

And, according to a new book dissecting the myth of Clint Eastwood, he's also a violent, mean-spirited, tight-fisted serial philanderer who beat his first wife, conducted a string of affairs throughout his career, fathered several children outside of wedlock, forced two of his lovers, including long-time partner Sondra Locke, to have abortions and, when it suited his needs (which was often), discarded women like used tissues.

In The Life and Legend of Clint Eastwood, Patrick McGilligan demolishes the popular portrait of the star-director as a shy homebody, light years away from the macho image of his earlier films like Dirty Harry, who prefers listening to jazz to attending Tinseltown parties.

In fact, McGilligan asserts, Eastwood's reputation as a formidable seducer and ruthless lover was already in place by the time he got his big break in Rawhide in 1959. He married Maggie Johnson, a former swimsuit model whose paycheques supported the young would-be actor during the first years of their marriage, in 1953, but Eastwood didn't let that stop him from bedding a string of women, on a daily basis, in his on-set trailer.

Jasper, this is what I found.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 4:47 PM


Don't despair. Let's promote this powerful movie to a new generation. I first saw this movie in high school in the late 1970's. There's an obvious timelessness about the subject that is relevant as much today as it was in the 1960's. (How sad that abortion was legalized less than ten years after the making of "Alfie".)

Posted by: Janet at April 8, 2009 5:12 PM


On the subject of Hollywood, I wonder if Eduardo Verstegui's production company has a new project going? Has anyone heard of anything since "Bella"?

Posted by: Janet at April 8, 2009 5:15 PM


HisMan,
I'm not sure what your story has to do with Hollywood, but thank you for posting it. Happy Easter to you and yours as well!

Posted by: Janet at April 8, 2009 5:18 PM


I didn't mean to get off topic. I just felt that since we were on a movie topic, it would be a good time to "out" the libs as they produce most of the TV shows and movies we see today.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 5:23 PM


Heather,

Thats interesting, I didn't know that...

Posted by: Jasper at April 8, 2009 5:23 PM


Jasper, I know. I was dissapointed myself. I was an Eastwood fan for years.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 5:24 PM


No, Clint Eastwood is no lib. I'm not sure where he stands of life, but he has been a repub since 1951.

Posted by: Jasper at April 8, 2009 4:30 PM

Heather and Jasper yes it was my understanding that Eastwood's leading lady and companion for years Sondra Locke had many abortions. In fact, I thought that was the reason she left him? But maybe I remember wrong....
I wanted to see his latest movie but this and the fact that the language is nasty deterred me.

Posted by: angel at April 8, 2009 6:20 PM


angel, that's what I had read also. I'm sure you are correct. I had also read that he had forced her into several abortions, and that was one of the reasons that they split up.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 6:25 PM


Has anyone seen Doubt? FABULOUS movie! I would like to relay a little bit of it from a sermon given by the priest in the movie. It isn't exact, but I like it.

A woman was gossiping about a man that she hardly knew, and when she slept that night she had a dream where a hand was pointing down at her from the heavens.

The next day she went to her church to talk to a priest and confessed to him her gossiping and her dream. "Is gossiping a sin, Father?" she asked. "Was that the hand of the Almighty pointing down at me."

"Of course gossiping is a sin, you sorry woman!" the priest said.

"I am sorry, Father, what can I do to be forgiven?"

The priest said, "Go home, get a pillow from your bed, take it to the roof and cut it open, then come back to me."

So the woman went and got a pillow from her bed, a knife from the kitchen, took them up to the roof of her building and cut the pillow open. She went back to see the priest.

"Did you get the pillow?" he asked.

"Yes, Father."

"Did you cut it open with a knife?"

"Yes, Father."

"And what was the result?"

"Feathers," she replied. "Feathers everywhere. Am I forgiven, Father?"

"Not yet!" the priest said. "Now what you need to do is go back home and gather up all the feathers and put them back in the pillow."

"It can't be done," the woman said. "They were carried off on the wind. I don't know where they all went."

"And that," said the priest, "is GOSSIP."

A very nice little story.

Posted by: Leah at April 8, 2009 6:30 PM


Leah,
I haven't seen the movie "Doubt", butI like your story.

Posted by: Janet at April 8, 2009 7:15 PM


nice story Leah, I'd like to give it to some people I work with.

Posted by: Jasper at April 8, 2009 7:31 PM


Yeah, I agree. Well worth reading.

Posted by: Heather at April 8, 2009 7:32 PM


Doubt is a FABULOUS movie. I HIGHLY recommend.

Posted by: Leah at April 8, 2009 7:45 PM


Hey- Clint Eastwood is amazing. I am declaring immunity on Clint Eastwood.

And, so I've read (and, because I'm an obsessed fan, I've read a lot), Clint Eastwood vehemently denied his companion ever having any abortions and he denied pressuring her into doing anything of the like.

His movies feature a lot of guns and fighting scenes, so his films aren't exactly pro-life, but they're still good movies.

Oh, and I have seen Doubt, Leah. Did you think that the priest was guilty or innocent at the end? I couldn't decide!

Posted by: Vannah at April 8, 2009 7:56 PM


I thought he was guilty. I watched it for the second time last night with my Christian theology reading group, and we had a good discussion afterward. There's a nun who is in the group and she thought he was guilty as well because in her two experiences with priests who were guilty of such things, she said they were just like him--so friendly and compassionate and loving. The last people you would expect.

I generally am not all that fond of Marilyn Streep, but she is just INCREDIBLE in Doubt.

Posted by: Leah at April 8, 2009 9:48 PM



Does anyone recall the movie "The Detective Story" with Kirk Douglas? It was made in 1951 and involved a detective who was determined to imprison a known abortionist.
However, you had to guess the guy was an abortionist as this could not be mentioned on TV at the time. The drama took a real twist when Douglas discovered this "doctor" had also aborted his wife before they were married. She had been impregnated by a married mobster. She told her husband that she saw this "doctor"
during her pregnancy and the baby died, though you could read the story between the lines.

Fast forward to 1966 and this scene from Alfie represents quite a leap from 1951. I recall another movie around that time, in which a doctor, played by Cliff Robertson I believe, was thrown out of training when he was caught trying to get an abortifacient for his pregnant girlfriend.

How times change.

Posted by: Mary at April 8, 2009 9:57 PM


Wow Michael Cain was also the actor who played the abortionist in The Cider House Rules. What must it be like to play someone affected in that way by abortion and then play an abortionist? As I always say, there are two sides to every story. I hope he got something out of those roles (besides the money).

Posted by: Jess at April 8, 2009 11:00 PM


Mary and Leah, those both sound like good movies. I'll see if I can find them.

Posted by: Heather at April 9, 2009 12:54 AM


Good Morning Heather,

The Detective Story is on Amazon. Its a very intense drama, especially the part where he discovers his wife's connections to the two things he loathes the most, the abortionist and the mobster.
What is interesting is how the subject is approached around the censorship laws of the time and the required reading of the story between the lines.

Posted by: Mary at April 9, 2009 8:18 AM


Good Morning Leah,

Its nice to see you here again. I hope married life is treating you well.

Posted by: Mary at April 9, 2009 8:19 AM


Hello Mary

I've been around. More reading than commenting. :)

Married life is treating me wonderfully, thank you!

Posted by: Leah at April 9, 2009 8:34 AM


It is unusual that he played the abortionist in The Cider House Rules, too. But I think that he could learn something from each side of the story, as you said, Jess.

Posted by: Vannah at April 9, 2009 8:47 AM


Leah, I loved the movie Doubt as well. I loved the original stage production so I was really excited to hear it was becoming a movie, but also scared that it wouldn't be done well. Especially because I felt that one of the best aspects of the experience was the relatively small, intimate theaters it had played in. Fortunately I think they did a really good job adapting it as a movie!

I've always found it fascinating the way that people tend to identify with one of the four main adult characters, who all represent such different personalities and points of view. The passionate and warm person whose loving carelessness may cause him to make too many mistakes; the authoritarian who uses her education, experience, and beliefs to reach a conclusion, and then never wavers in her quest for justice; the gray-area dweller who knows at least some of the truth but bends it for the purposes of some greater good. Personally I think I'm a Sister James. I too easily see both sides of any subject and would be perfectly content to live in an entirely rhetorical world, where all we did was sit around all day looking for more evidence, more answers -- where decisions never had to be made, just endlessly discussed.

Interestingly, from people who saw the play more than once, many of them felt either entirely inconclusive about the "truth," or they felt entirely sure that they knew the truth but had different opinions as to what the truth was each time they saw it. Really an amazing work.

Posted by: Alexandra at April 9, 2009 9:09 AM


He's an actor. He acted like he cared about a dead baby.

And in the Cider House Rules, he acted like the killer of babies.

What's real though, is his acceptance speech for his portrayl of the ether-addicted abortionist, that it was "the most compassionate character I've ever played."

Posted by: Jacqueline at April 9, 2009 11:32 AM


Note:

Republican or no, Clint Eastwood promoted euthanasia in "Million Dollar Baby," so pro-life he is not.

Republican does not=pro-life.

Posted by: Jacqueline at April 9, 2009 11:34 AM


I edited this video.

Thanks for posting it!!

Posted by: Mark Spence at April 9, 2009 3:53 PM


I remember seeing Alfie a LONG time ago sometime just after the pay channels started airing. Thought the whole movie is now a little blurry in my memory, I do remember this scene and how It really effected me. I had to agree with the character on his self assessment - that he had murdered the baby. The movie was not just about his exploits, but also about the consequences of his sin. Unfortunately the realization of what he had done did not change his character or future actions. They could have made the movie much more redeeming than it was.

Posted by: Mita at April 9, 2009 4:06 PM