Quote of the Day 11-17-09

jane_fonda.jpgI've come to understand that anti-choice and opposition to contraception has nothing to do with pro-life or pro-fetus; it has everything to do with power and who has it. It represents a mindset that values women mainly for their services as wives and sexual partners to men and as producers and rearers of children....

...The anti-choice movement has used different strategies over the decades, growing more strategic and virulent in reaction to the modern U.S. women's movement. Granting personhood to the fetus is only the latest incarnation and now the Stupak/Pitts Amendment shows how clever the movement has become.

~Jane Fonda, opining on health care reform in her blog, November 10

Comments:

"...power and who has it."

The rich. But, hopefully, soon the impoverished, the non-Anglo, and unborn people will have it, too, no thanks to you. Grant justice to the people, and that includes all people regardless of birth (an arbitrary belief, really) and grant the right to progress.

For someone who's so pro-woman you seem quite comfortable with the idea of plastic surgery and putting out an image of the ridiculously perfect woman that none of us can conform to.

Posted by: Vannah at November 17, 2009 12:23 PM


I'm thinking Jane's confused as to which group values women for their services as sexual partners...

And the Stupak/Pitts amendment IS the status quo. But these shrieking, coat-hanger wielding, "feminists" are apparently too busy man-hating to realize it.

God forbid women should be valued as wives and mothers! *eyeroll* Jane, you need help.

Posted by: Kelli Author Profile Page at November 17, 2009 12:23 PM


Fonda must have been hurt deeply by a man at one point in her life or told that her femininity was a bad thing. She feels men can control her destiny and she wants to take that control back. She irrationally fights for "choice" which creates an innocent victim in the process. She remains unhappy. What a great thing - this "choice". Whatever happened to the values of love, life, family, self-sacrifice, etc..... ?

Posted by: Janet at November 17, 2009 12:36 PM


In her article, Jane says, "Reproductive health has to be understood from a woman’s point of view."

Does that include the point of view of women like Gianna Jessen who've survived abortion?

Posted by: Fed Up at November 17, 2009 12:52 PM


Fed Up,

The pro-aborts haven't changed their tune in 40 years. I'd love to see Jane meet with Gianna Jessen!


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Jane also says, "millions of women would lose private coverage for abortion services and millions more would be prohibited from buying it even with their own money."

I don't think so, Ms. Fonda. Lies, lies, lies.

Posted by: Janet at November 17, 2009 1:12 PM


What a jerk.

Being pro-life represents a mindset that values women for their ROLES as wives, values men for for their ROLES as husbands, and values MOTHERS AND FATHERS to be loving parents to all the children God gives them.

Because, you know, contraception has NOTHING to do with men and women using the other as a "sexual partner."

Posted by: Cranky Catholic at November 17, 2009 1:19 PM


What poppycock from Jane Fonda. She betrays her utter ignorance.

The Stupak Amendment is anti-personhood. There is no leader in the pro-life Personhood movement in America that would support that pro-choice amendment. It explicitly allows the killing of unborn children with the use of taxpayer dollars. The whole point of the Personhood movement is to reject morally-compromised legislation like this! It stands in stark contradiction to National Right to Life and many others who concern themselves with making sure we know how to kill babies legally. Do we bring the baby out to the neck or just out to the navel before we rip her arms and legs off? Can the mom kill her baby on Thursday, or does she have to wait until Friday? If a teen gets a note from her parents, she can go on a field trip, get an ear pierced, or have her baby burned to death with a chemical weapon... as long as she has the parental note. Then it's okay.

After 42 years of legal abortion in America, we have abortion on demand -- any pregnant woman can have an abortion at any stage of her pregnancy and can probably have it at least partly paid for by you and me. Enough is enough. "Regulating" abortion has done nothing but convince many pro-lifers to condone taxpayer funded abortion in things like the Stupak Amendment, and has given us 7 Republican-nominated judges on the Supreme Court who ALL reject the right to life of the unborn. We have retreated and retreated in the face of the enemy and our leaders just want to give them more. Enough is enough.

What is it? What is it in the womb of a mother? It is a person with a God-given right to life, protected by the 5th and 14th amendments of the Constitution.

Posted by: Jamie Schofield at November 17, 2009 1:40 PM


Jane Fonda has a blog? Who knew?...

Posted by: Andrew at November 17, 2009 1:43 PM


Jane continues to show her ignorance and stupidity.

I just love how she made millions of dollars hocking her aerobic videos with the intention of promoting good health and all the while she's puking up everthing she eats to stay thin.

She is a total joke.

Posted by: Sandy at November 17, 2009 2:09 PM


Well, actually, you can't have an abortion at any stage. It's legal with restrictions, albeit these hardly assist in advancing fetal rights.

These quotes always make me sad. Is it possible that you could use a Martin Luther King, Jr. quote or Eleanor Roosevelt quote sometime? We could use more uplifting quotes than Jane Friggin' Fonda can offer. :)

Posted by: Vannah at November 17, 2009 2:36 PM


Roe V Wade made abortion legal, Doe V Bolton passed the same day and made abortion legal through all nine months of pregnancy.

Tiller killed children right up to their due dates. A mother could say she was depressed=emotional hardship.

Posted by: carla Author Profile Page at November 17, 2009 2:55 PM


Vannah, the reality is that sometimes it's good to see what those in the pro-choice movement are saying. Unfortunately, they're not always rainbows and sunshine. :D (In fact, they rarely are!) They make me sad, too. Abortion makes me very, very sad.

Perhaps on MLK Jr. day, we'll find a really great quote. He had some great things to say about equality. His niece, Alveda King, is a great pro-life spokesperson, as well. :)

BTW, Carla is right. Abortion is legal through all nine months of pregnancy. The "health of the mother" loophole took care of that.

Posted by: kel at November 17, 2009 3:17 PM


I'm feeling in a bad mood tonight but I'm gonna post this anyway:

I thought this ***** had some sort of a conversion a few years back. Apparently I heard wrong.

Jane, you've been wrong about so many things in life. When will you EVER learn, baby?

Go back to Ted. You belong there. :(

Posted by: angel at November 17, 2009 5:01 PM


Jane Fonda is confused. Guess she forgets that Men often use Women for sex and that's where the power and control comes from. The people who want to protect the unborn child also want to help the women, especially those who are abortion vulnerable.

Posted by: LizFromNebraska at November 17, 2009 6:02 PM


Liz, exactly right. That's why Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth C. Stanton not only referred to abortion as "murder" and "infanticide" but also rightly observed that it is one of the worst forms of oppression of women by men, as a way of using women without consequence for themselves.

Posted by: Jamie Schofield at November 17, 2009 7:08 PM


I guess growing older does not always mean growing wiser...
Poor, poor old Jane...Still confused after all these years. Hope the change of heart that she claimed a few years ago will still happen to her.
She surely needs prayers.

Posted by: castellina at November 17, 2009 10:31 PM


Wit and wisdom from "Hanoi Jane", traitor extraordinaire.

Posted by: Mary at November 17, 2009 10:33 PM


Again, will the real "anti-choice" movement please own up?! That would be the movement that denies preborn children the right to ever make any choices at all, by killing them before they get that chance.

The movement that fights informed consent laws tooth and nail whenever such propositions are put forth.

The movement that must needs resort to euphemisms like "choice" to falsify, glamorize and legitimize the savage, violent, deliberate slaughter of innocent,vulnerable human beings.

The movement that, knowing how repugnant such atrocities are to mainstream America, had to resort to judicial fiat to legalize these atrocities, rather than letting America vote on it. (Exactly 9 people were actually allowed to vote on Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton...and they were all MEN. So much for "a choice for women".

The movement that KNOWS FULL WELL that the elements of desperation, fear, deceit, manipulation, coercion, and ignorance at work in and on most mothers who submit themselves and their unborn children to the killing cartel are way too numerous to call abortion a "free choice". And rather than make efforts to reduce those factors, they exploit them to the hilt, to the death of the child and the hurt of the mother, for their own profit.

Recall Frederica Matthews-Green's observation, "No woman wants an abortion as she wants an ice-cream cone or a Porsche. She wants an abortion as an animal, caught in a trap, wants to gnaw off its own leg. Abortion is a tragic attempt to escape a desperate situation by an act of violence and self-loss." Even Planned Parenthood could not gainsay that and posted in in a newsletter as quote of the month. An act of desperation is, ipso facto, not a free choice - yet they continue to call those of us who would mitigate the elements of coercion, ignorance, desperation, etc. in order to set women free to make the natural choice of LIFE for themselves and their children.

The movement that has supported, praised, and sought to promote/replicate elsewhere the draconian anti-child laws of China, where women who become pregnant with a second child are subjected to forced abortions and sterilizations, and/or other severe persecution, including death.

The movement that has tried to force medical schools to require that anyone wanting to enter the field of Obstetrics & Gynecology be required to slaughter at least one unborn child in order to be graduated & licensed.

The movement that has tried and tried to silence prolife witness outside their killing centers, lest any of their quarry CHOOSE LIFE.

And, ah yes, the movement that wants all taxpayers to be forced to fund the slaughter.

Hanoi Jane and ilk, to see the real anti-choicer, look no further than your own mirror.

Posted by: JTM at November 17, 2009 11:54 PM


Oops - paragraph 6 in the above should end, "An act of desperation is, ipso facto, not a free choice - yet they continue to call those of us who would mitigate the elements of coercion, ignorance, desperation, etc. in order to set women free to make the natural choice of LIFE for themselves and their children "anti-choice" - this is pure projection."

cheers, jtm

Posted by: JTM at November 18, 2009 12:08 AM


No, you're right,angel..I heard the same thing a few years ago, that JF had supposedly 'found religion'. I don't know what 'religion' she thinks she found, but apparently it's one that condones baby-killing. *eye roll*

Posted by: Pamela at November 18, 2009 9:14 AM


Whatever, Jane, whatever.

Posted by: Phillymiss at November 18, 2009 11:59 AM



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