Please don't call it the left. If we keep making abortion an issue of liberal versus conservative, then we only provoke more flames and prolong the suffering of children's rights: this is not liberal or conservative or moderate. This is about human rights and making an enemy out of liberals will only, well, make an enemy out of liberals instead of having all people, regardless of their political leanings, in on the right to humanity.

Posted by: Vannah at November 5, 2009 12:28 PM

I would agree with that b/c there are plenty of republicans that support abortion. Unfortunately my Rep. is one of them. VOTE JUDY BIGGERT OUT!

Vannah, like it or not, the "left" are the ones who claim to be so much more educated and intelligent than the rest of us (who are "clinging to their guns and religion"), and the majority of them are also pro-abortion.

There are some wonderful people in the Democratic party. However, groups such as "Democrats for Life" garner attention because they're so out of the norm for the party platform.

Vannah,

Generally speaking, I agree with you. I really dig your ideas about coming together under the umbrella of human rights.

But unfortunately, pro-life liberals are rare. I have never (in real life) met a liberal who was not pro-choice. Also, I have often heard liberals characterize pro-life conservatives as anti-science and gloat over their supposed intellectual superiority. So although this quote of the day does, unfortunately, demonize the left, this type of liberal seems to be the majority.

Here's a compromise: instead of using pro-choice liberals' denial of science and reality to demonize, let's use it to entice them to the pro-life side. Since we know science-based arguments appeals to the typical liberal, then we can use that to persuade them that the pro-life position is the pro-science position.

Thumbs up, Janette. ^.^

You and I could get along very well. :)

Janette, that would be much easier to do if they weren't blockading photo displays of the victims of abortion, shouting and chanting, "My body, my choice."

But I would welcome a day when the science persuades them. :)

There's a car I see often that has several liberal bumper stickers. One says "Keep Your Theocracy off my Democracy" the other say "Stop Religious Zealots, Support Science!"

The last says "Mind Your Own Uterus!"

I really want to leave a note explaining that science supports the pro-life side and stopping abortion has nothing to do with theocracy.

Lauren,

I'm beginning to notice that many who have a problem with so-called religious zealots are ideological zealots themselves, readily dismissing facts in favor of their sacred dogma. I think the whole theocracy scare tactics are either 1) a way to avoid discussing the actual issue 2) intolerance towards those with different beliefs 3) a complete misunderstanding of the First Amendment, fueled by the constant "separation of church and state!" reactionary, mindless squawking. Or it's a combination of all 3.

Personally, I'm not threatened by people who use their religious beliefs as a frame of reference for their political ideologies. As long as they keep other peoples' freedoms in mind, I'm fine with it, because the two tend to go hand-in-hand.