Tiller finds good company among the ancient prophets who spoke truth to power, who kept on keeping-on with the faith that one day justice shall "roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream."
Our moral center never died. And, with each abortion delivered in compassion and care, George Tiller, Barnett Slepian, Shannon Lowey, Leanne Nichols, John Britton, and David Gunn are resurrected.
RH Reality Check, "Dr. Tiller's Crucifixion and Resurrection" via Daily Kos, June 1
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Good grief. If that prose got any more purple, I might have to vomit.
Posted by: Keli Hu at June 2, 2010 1:24 PM" And, with each abortion delivered in compassion and care.."
Ewwwww! And people ACTUALLY believe this cr*p????
Posted by: RSD at June 2, 2010 1:30 PMBut no unborn children are resurrected. They make certain to kill them, even if they're born alive. Yes, what saintly butchers they were.
This statement is nearly nauseating.
Posted by: KelliKooky!! One has to ask, Does God have a role in her church? She and her pro-abort cohorts would do well to ponder: "I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me." Phillipians 4:13.
Also from the author (Trusting Women at RH Reality Check) who is a Unitarian minister - Life requires limitation, requires choice and ending certain potentials and possibilities. It requires hard decisions, power, sadness, and love.
....This is one of the stupidest things I have ever read in my life.
Posted by: Lucy at June 2, 2010 1:50 PMis this person who wrote this insane?
Posted by: LizFromNebraska at June 2, 2010 1:58 PMOne commenter at DailyKos states her opinion (see below).. and I'm sure this is false.... Tiller, in fact, did late-term abortions for capricious reasons according to one woman who worked for him. It was recently mentioned on another thread at Jill's. Perhaps someone can provide the link? Thanks.
"People sometimes forget (or perhaps do not wish to acknowledge) that NO WOMAN has a late-term abortion because she's "just changed her mind" about having a baby. Late-term abortions such as the ones Dr. Tiller handled happen because something has gone seriously wrong with the pregnancy -- either with the fetus or with regards to the woman's own health -- so that ending the pregnancy has become the best possible outcome for her. The outcome the anti-abortion activists are imagining -- a healthy mother and baby -- is simply no longer possible."
Posted by: Janet at June 2, 2010 2:09 PMI found the story I mentioned above. Thanks to Carla who originally posted it! on May, 30, 2010.
The words of a former employee of Tillers
I was unemployed and I got a call from Manpower Temporary Services and they said, "Would you mind working in an abortion clinic?" I said, "Oh, no." I belonged to NOW and I was pro-choice so they sent me out to Tiller's clinic. I worked there for about a week getting his computer records going again. He asked, "Would you like to have a permanent job?" and I said "Sure."
So we went back in his office and I sat by his desk as he started explaining in a more formal way what he did there and why he did it. He told me that he was the supporter of women's rights, that he considered himself to be spokesman for women who could not get up and speak for themselves.
He said that he only did late abortions on severely deformed babies or for reasons of a medical crisis—in others words, for a valid reason. Then very quickly he said "And besides that, at this stage, those babies' lungs are so underdeveloped that they couldn't survive outside the mother anyway." I knew in my heart at that point in time that it was wrong, but I said to myself, "He's a doctor. I can trust him."
Trained To Sell Abortions
After I had been there for that period of time, they decided they would train me to answer the phones. I thought they were going to tell me how they want the information sheet filled out and how to keep the phone record and this and that. But what I was handed instead was a packet of information—materials to study—on how to be a high-pressure salesperson over the phone, like telemarketing: how to convince somebody to buy your product.
I started doing all the filing on the medical records. In over 95% of these babies, and it's probably more than that, there was nothing wrong with those babies at all—nothing—and these were third trimester abortions.
There was nothing wrong with those babies at all—nothing—and these were third trimester abortions
I started wanting to go out in the waiting room and tell people to leave. I was very frightened because by that time I knew how wealthy Tiller was. I knew how influential he was. His father had practiced family medicine in Wichita and if you want to talk about entrenched, that man was entrenched. And I felt helpless.
Describing The Procedure
I later asked Alana, "How does this work?" So that's how I found out some more of the details and I will explain it to you as it happens. Day 1, 2, 3.
On day one the women come into Tiller's clinic. He does two groups a week of twelve women, so that's a couple dozen women a week getting a third trimester abortion at that clinic.
They come in. They pay their money in cash and they have a sonogram, first thing and he tells them, "Oh, you're not that far along." He's very happy to take their money. Then the first thing he does to them is he kills that baby, because once that baby is dead, they can't change their mind and get their money back.
He uses the sonogram—a tool for life—to kill the baby. He uses that to guide the needle into the baby's heart and he injects it with digoxin, which is a heart medication and it slows the baby's heart down.
He uses the sonogram—a tool for life—to kill the baby.
The second day, the women come in and they have little group counseling sessions, but they don't do any counseling until after that baby is already dead. On that second day, they get a second pack of laminaria; they got the first one the first day. They are gradually expanding, dilating the cervix. But it's dangerous to put more than just a few laminaria, so you're causing damage to the cervix by doing that. They also start receiving drugs on that second day to stimulate the body to go into labor.
Then on the third day, they come back and he has a room in the basement—that is his labor and delivery room. It is just one big room about 20 feet by 20, or so, maybe a little bit bigger and there's cots lined up with the head of the cot against the wall. You know how sometimes in a hospital room they will have a little curtain you can pull between the two beds in a shared room? Other than that, those women have no privacy. They are in full view of each other and so there's twelve women laboring down there to have these babies and they're so far along, I mean, they are third trimester babies, that they are basically going through just as much, if not more, labor than you would to have a live delivery—Tiller charges them about that much, too.
There was one woman from Southwest Kansas, I wish I knew who she was. Tiller passed this letter around and made all the staff read it, because I guess he thought we were responsible somehow. She had had her third trimester abortion on the advice of her doctor because there was some severe medical problem, but she regretted it and was very, very sorry she had been talked into it. She wrote him a letter and told him it was the most horrible experience of her life.
Although I was not down in the basement for any more than just a few seconds when those women were down there, I got a very vivid description of what actually went on down there from this woman. She said that women were crying and screaming and there was blood everywhere—blood running down their legs and it was just horrible.
. . . women were crying and screaming and there was blood everywhere—blood running down their legs and it was just horrible.
He was so scared. But first let me tell you how tight this man is. He paid me $6.00 an hour and I have a college degree. He is so tight. That woman had paid—and this was back in 1988—$3,000 because it was a complicated procedure. He now charges more than that. He refunded every penny to her, because he was trying to mitigate any damage that might possibly come to him because of her complaint.
On the Fourth day they come back for a check-up and if everything checks out OK they'll go on home. But there are complications that come up every now and then. I didn't know about all of them because he didn't want anyone to know about them if he could help it. I have heard since then that he has had in one week, two or three botches have to go to the hospital. God only knows what happens to those babies that are born alive there.
A Modern Day Jonah
He nets a million dollars a year. (And believe me he spread it around, because I mailed out the checks to the legislators, so I know.) And he is only one doctor at one clinic. He is not the only late term abortionist. There is a lot of money involved in this and that's why he is doing it.
As I said, I did get out of it and I just thank God that I did. I'm a direct descendent of Jonah, I believe. I am one of the most stubborn and obstinate people God has ever had to deal with.
If He had told me why He was sending me in there before I went, I probably would have been scared to death, even though I thought I was pro-choice. I can't say I am glad I was there, but I'm glad that I'm standing here today to give my testimony to you, because if I can inspire you to help save babies' lives, that's what I want to do.
http://www.prolifeactionleague.org
Posted by: carla at May 30, 2010 9:40 PM
Posted by: Janet at June 2, 2010 2:18 PM**Gasp!** Tiller was killed by a lone man, not a pro-life conspiracy. Abortionists wish so hard that it were a conspiracy, they've all decided to run ahead with their false premise. No one is fooled. They look more desperate and stupid with each passing day. "Premise running thin.."
Posted by: ninek at June 2, 2010 2:51 PMThere you go, Janet.
It makes me ill. I don't believe any proaborts even commented on it.
Posted by: carlaIt just hurts my heart to hear about any 'late term abortion', because my daughter was born at 33 weeks (about 7 1/2 months). All she needed was a little bit of oxygen for a few days after birth, and she was fine...no complications whatsoever! It would have been the same for most of these babies. They could have survived. There is no such thing as an 'unwanted baby'. Good grief, couples pay THOUSANDS to adopt babies from other countries because there aren't enough babies being put up for adoption in this country! These babies (and all aborted babies, for that matter) could end up in loving arms instead of in the TRASH! (Sorry for the rant)
Posted by: Pamela at June 2, 2010 3:53 PMIt's amazing how wicked men's hearts can be.
It's equally amazing how deceived and gullible people can be.
Reality Check??? Give me a break. They need a serious reality check.
They couldn't be any more deceived, calling evil, good.
A more accurate version would be:
Tiller finds evil company among the mass murderers of previous generations, Hitler, Stalin Mengele, et al, who spoke a web of lies gaining power over their victims, who kept on keeping-on their paths of genocide and destruction. The violent assault and massacre of their victims was a tidal wave of injustice - pure calculated evil; their unrighteousness is like a polluted river, red and sticky with the blood of their victims.
Our corrupt, wicked hearts are void of any morality. And, with each abortion delivered in cold-hearted greed, the hearts of today's abortionists continue to harden in sin, in preparation for the day they will join George Tiller, Barnett Slepian, Shannon Lowey, Leanne Nichols, John Britton, and David Gunn in eternal torment.
We don't know for sure if any of the above had an opportunity to call on The Savior in their dying moments that they might be delivered from destruction...
but it doesn't look good.
I sure wouldn't want to appear before The Judge of the whole earth with the blood of murdered innocent victims on my hands.
Posted by: Ed at June 2, 2010 8:51 PMPamela @ 3:53,
So glad your daughter was born healthy. I was born at 33 weeks.
Except for spending my first month in the hospital, everything was fine. And that was decades ago.... Late term abortion makes no sense, especially because there is a chance that doctors can be wrong, and both mother and baby can be saved.
Ouch, Janet! That hurts just to read!
Abortion is such a cycle of pain and anger. :(
Posted by: MaryRose at June 2, 2010 9:32 PM
